Hi DM,

I found this tonight - It looks like someone put a copy of Synchronet on GitHub a couple years ago:
https://github.com/protomouse/synchronet
Have you seen that?

Nightfox

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Re: Synchronet on GitHub
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Wed Nov 12 2014 09:10 pm

Hi DM,

I found this tonight - It looks like someone put a copy of Synchronet on GitHub a couple years ago:
https://github.com/protomouse/synchronet
Have you seen that?

I don't recall. I may have. Others have professed how they used git or wanted to use git for Synchronet. <shrug>

digital man

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Re: Synchronet on GitHub
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Nov 12 2014 23:23:29

I found this tonight - It looks like someone put a copy of Synchronet
on GitHub a couple years ago:
https://github.com/protomouse/synchronet
Have you seen that?

I don't recall. I may have. Others have professed how they used git or wanted to use git for Synchronet. <shrug>

I've got to say, I've been wondering this for awhile, as well.

Synchronet isn't suffering from the issue yet of being available only through those who track you down personally, nor only via obscure 'internet dark alleys', but CVS only is going to be seen that way before too terribly long. DOVE-Net may keep that at bay for quite awhile, but you never know... I'd just hate to see the Synchronet software end up going to the way of so much shareware from decades prior, only to be found on 5.25in floppies with handwritten labels and the like...

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Re: Synchronet on GitHub
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Nov 12 2014 11:23 pm

I don't recall. I may have. Others have professed how they used git or wanted to use git for Synchronet. <shrug>

Yeah, I love git and github. I haven't really touched CVS or SVN for so many years now. But, as with any project, you get to use what *you* want :)

Knight

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Re: Synchronet on GitHub
By: Khelair to Digital Man on Thu Nov 13 2014 06:13 am

through those who track you down personally, nor only via obscure 'internet dark alleys', but CVS only is going to be seen that way before too terribly

CVS is already considered ancient and unliked by most devs :)

Knight

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Re: Synchronet on GitHub
By: Khelair to Digital Man on Thu Nov 13 2014 06:13:08

I don't recall. I may have. Others have professed how they used git
or wanted to use git for Synchronet. <shrug>

I've got to say, I've been wondering this for awhile, as well.

Synchronet isn't suffering from the issue yet of being available only through those who track you down personally, nor only via obscure 'internet dark alleys', but CVS only is going to be seen that way before too terribly long. DOVE-Net may keep that at bay for quite awhile, but you never know... I'd just hate to see the Synchronet software end up going to the way of so much shareware from decades prior, only to be found on 5.25in floppies with handwritten labels and the like...

I still don't think CVS is good as a software distribution tool, since CVS is designed mainly as a file versioning archival tool, which is most useful for developers. Although the code in the CVS is fairly stable, it's still considered 'in development'. Also, someone who just wants to get the official release and install it isn't going to want to check out files from a versioning system and compile it themselves. Software just isn't normally distributed to users via a versioning system. The official Synchronet releases are posted to the Synchronet web site, www.synchro.net. It's not that hard to find by doing a web search, so it's not lost in some obscure "internet dark alley".

Nightfox

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El 13/11/14 a las 02:10, Nightfox escibió:

Hi DM,

I found this tonight - It looks like someone put a copy of Synchronet on GitHub
a couple years ago:
https://github.com/protomouse/synchronet
Have you seen that?

Nightfox

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Re: Synchronet on GitHub
By: Nightfox to Khelair on Thu Nov 13 2014 07:56 am

I still don't think CVS is good as a software distribution tool, since CVS i designed mainly as a file versioning archival tool, which is most useful for developers. Although the code in the CVS is fairly stable, it's still considered 'in development'. Also, someone who just wants to get the offici release and install it isn't going to want to check out files from a version system and compile it themselves. Software just isn't normally distributed users via a versioning system. The official Synchronet releases are posted the Synchronet web site, www.synchro.net. It's not that hard to find by doi a web search, so it's not lost in some obscure "internet dark alley".

I personally don't mind CVS at this point or at least I've adapted to it by having a decent understanding of what a lot of the files do and on occasion leveraging those things - but I think as far as other people go it's a bit of winding road to explain what's going on in there so I agree with you.

Github seems like it may have more tools for enabling descriptions and discussions that might make things more user friendly, as well as being a community that could attract more developers to Synchronet as a potential side benefit, people could fork and tinker with stuff. My github page is mostly synchronet stuff and I've used gist to post examples of various code snippets that are mini-tutorials of how to do things, and they're not hard to find edit or discuss individually or point back to.

Anyhow, if the devs are comfortable with CVS they should stick with that if they want.Also, maybe there's a way to have it both ways possibly by tring to echo the CVS I would assume using cvs and git commands in a script to synch them up if not at the exact same time at a scheduled interval. You wouldn't exactly be getting the best of both worlds there, because one of the benefits of github would be enabling user <-> developer communication, but perhaps it can evolve into a knowledge base and point of reference (what I see as the primary advantage of github over CVS). Also, as people have said the distribution system might be more straightforward.

just my 2 cents. ultimately it doesn't make a huge amount of difference to me in any ways though so take it for what you will.

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Re: Synchronet on GitHub
By: Knight to Digital Man on Thu Nov 13 2014 07:02 am

Yeah, I love git and github. I haven't really touched CVS or SVN for so
many years now. But, as with any project, you get to use what *you* want :)

yeah, git is pretty nice.
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Re: Synchronet on GitHub
By: LaRRy LaGoMoRpH to Nightfox on Thu Nov 13 2014 02:01 pm

Anyhow, if the devs are comfortable with CVS they should stick with that if they want.Also, maybe there's a way to have it both ways possibly by tring to echo the CVS I would assume using cvs and git commands in a script to synch them up if not at the exact same time at a scheduled interval. You wouldn't exactly be getting the best of both worlds there, because one of the benefits of github would be enabling user <-> developer communication, but perhaps it can evolve into a knowledge base and point of reference
(what I see as the primary advantage of github over CVS). Also, as people have said the distribution system might be more straightforward.

It wouldn't be too hard to keep a github copy of the current CVS, but it would just be another place like the Yahoo group, Facebook pages, Sourceforge page, Newsgroups, FidoNet, etc that people go to for help and the devs don't really pay attention to.

If a new developer had some reason for git, there's a chance we would migrate, but chasing the latest cool things isn't really what Synchronet is about.

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I still don't think CVS is good as a software distribution tool, since CVS is designed mainly as a file versioning archival tool, which is most useful for developers. Although the code in the CVS is fairly stable, it's still considered 'in development'. Also, someone who just wants to get the official release and install it isn't going to want to check out files from a versioning system and compile it themselves. Software just isn't
normally distributed to users via a versioning system. The official Synchronet releases are posted to the Synchronet web site, www.synchro.net. It's not that hard to find by doing a web search, so it's not lost in some obscure "internet dark alley".

Nightfox

Hello, I thought I would chime in on this subject. I have been using
synchronet for a long time now. Even back to it's roots. I have been very impressed with the fact that the support has been there for well over 20 years now? I have seen programs by the score that last a year or so and then gone without a trace. So I would like to say thanks to everyone that has been programming and slaving over this software for years. It has been an alternative for me for years. Whenever I have tried other mail servers for a task synchronet has always been there as a solid piece of software. I look forward to great releases in the future. I have listened to people bag on this software since before the new millennium. And here it is still standing. Great work DM and all who help in the forward motion of this fine software.

Cheers

Jim

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