Guys who solely rely on their ip cans to stop the botnets from hacking into their machine be aware! The ipcan doesn't work, well only when it wants to. I have banned ip's just to see them return and nail the server several times, like synchronet wasn't even looking at the ipcan for banned ips. I have banned the google bot to see if it worked...It worked for a bit, then the google bot under the same exact ip figured out a way to go right around the ipcan.
Some ip's with infected machines on their networks like the notorious chinanet is able to get in and try to inject bad script into webserver, and hack into ssh server. Even after the whole range was banned, and the host name for chinanets ips were also banned. I know for a fact I got them all in my can file, but i still see the same ip addresses "after banning", come right around it like the can doesn't exist. Or synchronet isn't checking the ipcan as advertised. If the can worked as advertised it would be a worthy tool, but instead, I rate it as an epic failure at stopping them. On a scale of 1 to 10
I give it a negative 50. Instead of hoping the ipcan blocks them, just use ip tables in your firewalls... Don't even open the ipcan file...as in my experience it doesn't work. I know all you brown nosers on dove-net will
attest to my theory, but I don't care. Actions speak louder than words...Dove-net isn't the place to receive help for synchronet. I have been doing this for quite some time, and I also know men who have ran their systems for years who simply refuse to ask anymore questions on this notorious
network. I hope it dies to be honest because of the the jerks on here make it
a bad place. A place that people do not want to ask questions nor post messages...That is unless you sucked some booty hole and kissed some arse and begged and worship the guys, then only, will one receive help. I am not that dude, so all of you on here can hate me...That's what I want anyways. I don't want my users to experience the jerks on here so 99 percent of the people who post on here are blocked including the founding father of synchronet. Who's help has been 0, or less to those asking for help. Someone who claims to support the software turns around and fusses at people for emailing him or asking a question. Making ludicrous claims on bbs documentary, people were begging to give you money???? HAHAHAHA what a joke. If that were the case why did major bbs make you look bad all day every day, even smaller unpopular versions of bbs software were selling more. Who was begging to give you money? I wouldn't pay anything for this software. I have found far to many bugs and jerks working on synchronet, to even make a donation. I have even found documents to baja mods were the author has said the very same things I have brought to the attention of dove-net only to get flamed. These mods contained docs with quoted messages from the authors and those who claim to help from
the early to mid 1990's. They were foul ludicrous and rude. Not to mention someone needs their large "air filled bubble" they called a head, needs to be popped to let some of those conceded thoughts to leave their dome piece.
I will continue to donate to mystic bbs, time money and help. So that it grows and it becomes feature rich. When it does, I am done with this garbage
software you dove-net trolls worship so much, the software that breaks itself after updating/upgrading things. Inter-bbs instant messaging....it's broke....ipcan....fails to work....strange problems with compiling javascript causing working things to crash the system...epic fail....Support for this software, EPIC FAIL. And the list goes on and on...
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Re: ip can = epic fail
By: Lesser Keys to All on Tue Feb 04 2014 05:40 pm

Guys who solely rely on their ip cans to stop the botnets from hacking into their machine be aware! The ipcan doesn't work, well only when it wants to.

So... it works sometimes?

Just as a test, I've added the following lines to Vertrauen's ip.can:
; Lesser Keys ("ip can = epic fail")
71.71.96.140

Now see if you can login to Vetrauen using any protocol and post a reply to this message from that IP address. If you can, then I guess I would have to agree. If you don't (or can't), I'll just have to conclude that you're wrong and a blathering idiot. <shrug>

digital man

Synchronet "Real Fact" #73:
Vertrauen went online (as a WWIV BBS running on a 10MHz PC-XT clone) in 1988. Norco, CA WX: 57.9øF, 54.0% humidity, 5 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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Re: ip can = epic fail
By: Lesser Keys to All on Tue Feb 04 2014 05:40 pm

Guys who solely rely on their ip cans to stop the botnets from hacking into their machine be aware!

IP cans only work with the BBS programs, not any other programs. Anyone who uses IP can files to protect their machines are idiots.

The ipcan doesn't work, well only when it wants to.
I have banned ip's just to see them return and nail the server several times, like synchronet wasn't even looking at the ipcan for banned ips.

Maybe you want ip-silent.can. Also, are you sure you're putting them into the correct directory?

I
have banned the google bot to see if it worked...It worked for a bit, then the google bot under the same exact ip figured out a way to go right around the ipcan.

Those Google guys are pretty smart.

I know for a fact I got them all
in my can file, but i still see the same ip addresses "after banning", come right around it like the can doesn't exist.

It's supposed to log them so you can tell their attacking. Use ip-silent.can to not log the attempts.

Or synchronet isn't checking
the ipcan as advertised. If the can worked as advertised it would be a worthy tool, but instead, I rate it as an epic failure at stopping them.

You should read the advertising. It seems you don't know how it works.

On a scale of 1 to 10 I give it a negative 50.

You also don't understand how scales work.

Instead of hoping the ipcan
blocks them, just use ip tables in your firewalls... Don't even open the ipcan file...as in my experience it doesn't work.

If you could actually provide logs and your IP can file, maybe it could be fixed (assuming it's broken).

I know all you brown
nosers on dove-net will attest to my theory, but I don't care.

You also don't know what "attest" means:
attest (verb): To affirm to be correct, true, or genuine.

None of the DoVe-Net brown nosers would affirm your theory to be correct.

Actions
speak louder than words...Dove-net isn't the place to receive help for synchronet.

Then you should stop hanging out there.

I have been doing this for quite some time, and I also know men
who have ran their systems for years who simply refuse to ask anymore questions on this notorious network.

How long have you been running Synchronet?

I hope it dies to be honest because of
the the jerks on here make it a bad place.

Mro seems to have fallen silent after discovering nobody likes him and we all wish he would leave. Once you leave too (since you hate Synchronet anyway), there will be two less jerks.

I am not that dude, so all of you on here can hate
me...That's what I want anyways.

You're doing a great job.

I don't want my users to experience the
jerks on here so 99 percent of the people who post on here are blocked including the founding father of synchronet.

You know you can just delete the subs and stop the QWK callouts? Much easier than blocking everyone.

I will continue to donate to mystic bbs, time money and help.

You should also run Mystic BBS and only connect your BBS to the Mystic friendly
networks. Posts count as contributions, so posting on DoVe-Net is just supporting DoVe-Net.

So that it
grows and it becomes feature rich.

So it's currently small and feature poor?

When it does, I am done with this
garbage software you dove-net trolls worship so much, the software that breaks itself after updating/upgrading things.

The software you use? Because it's the best you can find? You should run something else.

Inter-bbs instant
messaging....it's broke....ipcan....fails to work....strange problems with compiling javascript causing working things to crash the system...epic fail....Support for this software, EPIC FAIL. And the list goes on and
on...

Working things, by definition, do not crash systems.

Solomon's Temple BBS
Home to Starr-Net
Telnet://solomonstemplebbs.com, https://solomonstemplebbs.com

"The only BBS with a SSL/TLS connection!!! The Secure BBS!!!"

(Uses telnet)

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Re: ip can = epic fail
By: Lesser Keys to All on Tue Feb 04 2014 05:40 pm

Guys who solely rely on their ip cans to stop the botnets from hacking into their machine be aware! The ipcan doesn't work, well only when it wants to.

I took my IP.CAN and put it into the iptables entry in my router -- but I still liked seeing the blocked entries in my BBS status window.

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Re: ip can = epic fail
By: Lesser Keys to All on Tue Feb 04 2014 17:40:32

Guys who solely rely on their ip cans to stop the botnets from hacking into their machine be aware! The ipcan doesn't work, well only when it wants to. I have banned ip's just to see them return and nail the server several times, like synchronet wasn't even looking at the ipcan for

What you describe seems unusual. I have blocked many IPs in my ip.can and have seen Synchronet block every one of them thereafter. Also, the ip.can file has been discussed many times on dove-net, and never (or at least rarely) have I seen a sysop mention this problem with it. It might help if you define what you mean by "nail the server several times" - You will still see attempts from the IP address in the Synchronet logs after you add it to your ip.can, except that after you add it, Synchronet will tell you the IP is blocked in ip.can. So instead of blaming the software, you might want to think about other reasons why it might not be working on your setup (or whether your understanding of ip.can corresponds to what it really is).

experience the jerks on here so 99 percent of the people who post on
here are blocked including the founding father of synchronet. Who's help has been 0, or less to those asking for help. Someone who claims to support the software turns around and fusses at people for emailing him
or asking a question. Making ludicrous claims on bbs documentary, people were begging to give you money???? HAHAHAHA what a joke. If that were

In my experience and observations, Digital Man has actually been quite helpful to Synchronet sysops and has remained professional most of the time, in spite of the various rants and negativity that gets posted on dove-net sometimes. I think Digital Man is fairly easy to talk to, and if you ask him a question, you'll get a straightforward answer. So I think it's your claims that are ridiculous.

garbage software you dove-net trolls worship so much, the software that breaks itself after updating/upgrading things. Inter-bbs instant messaging....it's broke....ipcan....fails to work....strange problems
with compiling javascript causing working things to crash the system...epic fail....Support for this software, EPIC FAIL. And the list goes on and on... Solomon's Temple BBS Home to Starr-Net

In my experience, most of these things are fairly rare and have a sensible cause that can be fixed. So as I said earlier, rather than blaming the software, you might want to try a little harder and examine why you're seeing these failures and dig a little deeper, as well as ask questions nicely rather than going into a big immature rant - because nobody will want to help you for sure if you act like that.

ask questions nor post messages...That is unless you sucked some booty hole and kissed some arse and begged and worship the guys, then only,
will one receive help. I am not that dude, so all of you on here can
hate me...That's what I want anyways. I don't want my users to

Seriously, I don't know what you expect by staying quiet on dove-net for a while and then coming back and posting pretty much a book-length paragraph ranting about your BBS problems and blaming it all on the software. You aren't accomplishing anything except making yourself look like an immature loser who has nothing better to do. I personally have tried to be helpful to you with your BBS questions, but at this point, I'm tempted to call you a troll and stop feeding you.

Nightfox

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Re: ip can = epic fail
By: Poindexter Fortran to Lesser Keys on Tue Feb 04 2014 17:47:20

I took my IP.CAN and put it into the iptables entry in my router -- but
I still liked seeing the blocked entries in my BBS status window.

I also put my ip.can entries into the iptables entry in my router, but mainly because I got tired of seeing my Synchronet logs filled with repeated hack attempts. :P

Nightfox

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On 2/4/2014 5:40 PM, Lesser Keys wrote:

Guys who solely rely on their ip cans to stop the botnets from hacking into their machine be aware! The ipcan doesn't work, well only when it wants to. I

If you read the instructions correctly, you would know that IP can means
IP addresses that can hack you. Try the IP cannot file.

Thanks!

Mindless Automaton
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Re: ip can = epic fail
By: Lesser Keys to All on Tue Feb 04 2014 17:40:32

help. So that it grows and it becomes feature rich. When it does, I am done with this garbage software you dove-net trolls worship so much, the software that breaks itself after updating/upgrading things. Inter-bbs instant messaging....it's broke....ipcan....fails to work....strange problems with compiling javascript causing working things to crash the system...epic fail....Support for this software, EPIC FAIL. And the list goes on and on...

Sounds more like the writer of this epistle is lacking in knowledge, and perhaps some semblance of asking politely. I have never been refused help when I needed it. If you think so little of Synchronet, then I suggest you uninstall it, and run that software you praise so much, and leave the premises. --- SBBSecho 2.26-Win32
* Origin: The Lions Den BBS, Trenton, On, CDN (1:249/303)
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Re: ip can = epic fail
By: Lesser Keys to All on Tue Feb 04 2014 17:40:32

LOL! Rage much? Butthurt much?

If you were capable of communicating effectively, willing to exercise a bit of patience and work with others, you might get your concerns about "the ipcan" addressed. I imagine the devs would work on this if you could give them some details (and maybe tone it down a bit, add some punctuation, etc.)

doesn't work. I know all you brown nosers on dove-net will attest to my theory, but I don't care. Actions speak louder than words...Dove-net isn't

"Attest" doesn't mean what you think it does. :D :D :D

Love and light!

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Re: ip can = epic fail
By: Nightfox to Poindexter Fortran on Tue Feb 04 2014 06:27 pm

I also put my ip.can entries into the iptables entry in my router, but mainly because I got tired of seeing my Synchronet logs filled with repeated hack attempts. :P

It is entertaining to see the random user/pass combinations in my logs. Until it grows tiring, that is.

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On Tue, 04 Feb 2014, Lesser Keys wrote to All:

Guys who solely rely on their ip cans to stop the botnets from
hacking into their machine be aware! The ipcan doesn't work, well

[...]

wow... i've done some ranting in my time but wow... i hope you feel better after that... it is definitely the way to lose friends and make enemies ;)

)\/(ark

One of the great tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a gang of brutal facts. --Benjamin Franklin

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Re: ip can = epic fail
By: Joe Delahaye to Lesser Keys on Tue Feb 04 2014 11:00 pm

Re: ip can = epic fail
By: Lesser Keys to All on Tue Feb 04 2014 17:40:32

help. So that it grows and it becomes feature rich. When it does, I
am done with this garbage software you dove-net trolls worship so
much, the software that breaks itself after updating/upgrading
things. Inter-bbs instant messaging....it's broke....ipcan....fails
to work....strange problems with compiling javascript causing
working things to crash the system...epic fail....Support for this
software, EPIC FAIL. And the list goes on and on...

Sounds more like the writer of this epistle is lacking in knowledge, and perhaps some semblance of asking politely. I have never been refused help when I needed it. If you think so little of Synchronet, then I suggest you uninstall it, and run that software you praise so much, and leave the premises.

Dude, you should see his BBS, it's a freaking mess. Take screenshots, beacause he'll add you to his firewall as soon as you've had a good chuckle.


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Re: ip can = epic fail
By: Android8675 to Joe Delahaye on Wed Feb 05 2014 16:28:02

Dude, you should see his BBS, it's a freaking mess. Take screenshots, beacause he'll add you to his firewall as soon as you've had a good chuckle.

I would, if I had an interest <G>
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Re: ip can = epic fail
By: Android8675 to Joe Delahaye on Wed Feb 05 2014 04:28 pm

Dude, you should see his BBS, it's a freaking mess. Take screenshots, beacause he'll add you to his firewall as soon as you've had a good
chuckle.

You can't see it, his email.can apparently contains a * line.

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Re: ip can = epic fail
By: Deuce to Android8675 on Wed Feb 05 2014 08:54 pm

Dude, you should see his BBS, it's a freaking mess. Take screenshots,
beacause he'll add you to his firewall as soon as you've had a good
chuckle.

You can't see it, his email.can apparently contains a * line.

Wow, epic facepalm.


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