hey, i dropped by your site(s) last night to grab the new syncterm for one of my linux boxen... i got it but it won't run... seems that the sole link on your
sites is for the 64bit flavor and my *nix is 32bit... can you adjust your page on those two systems (they look identical) so there's a link for the 32bit and another for the 64bit?

thanks! :)

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Re: new syncterm
By: mark lewis to deuce on Mon Jan 27 2014 07:02 pm

hey, i dropped by your site(s) last night to grab the new syncterm for one of my linux boxen... i got it but it won't run... seems that the sole link on your sites is for the 64bit flavor and my *nix is 32bit... can you
adjust your page on those two systems (they look identical) so there's a link for the 32bit and another for the 64bit?

I'm pondering that. I'm also pondering not distributing Linux binaries at all since it's really a terrible and not very well supported thing to do.

Ideally, someone who knows how to do it would work with me to get official packages into the various Linux distros.

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On Tue, 28 Jan 2014, Deuce wrote to mark lewis:

hey, i dropped by your site(s) last night to grab the new syncterm
for one of my linux boxen... i got it but it won't run... seems that
the sole link on your sites is for the 64bit flavor and my *nix is
32bit... can you adjust your page on those two systems (they look identical) so there's a link for the 32bit and another for the 64bit?

I'm pondering that.

thank you for that ;)

I'm also pondering not distributing Linux binaries at all since
it's really a terrible and not very well supported thing to do.

i hope you don't stop providing binaries... some *nix systems do not have everything needed to be able to build from source...

Ideally, someone who knows how to do it would work with me to get
official packages into the various Linux distros.

i wish i knew more about that process but i don't... if i did, i'd be happy to help in this endeavor... sorry...

oh but wait... in recent times, something called PGAs (??) are being used... basically these are private package repositories that one can add to their dpkg
list of software repositories... once added, one then simply installs from the package just like anything else...

eg: sudo aptitude update
sudo aptitude install syncterm

that would place syncterm in a well known user accessible directory (/usr/local/bin or maybe /opt/bin or some such)... then the users would simply run that binary and have their settings and phonebooks in their local directory... possibly in ~/.syncterm/ ??

i need more 00C0FFEE...

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Re: new syncterm
By: mark lewis to Deuce on Sat Feb 01 2014 10:23 am

oh but wait... in recent times, something called PGAs (??) are being
used... basically these are private package repositories that one can add
to their dpkg list of software repositories... once added, one then simply installs from the package just like anything else...

Yeah, someone stull needs to create the package though.

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On Sat, 01 Feb 2014, Deuce wrote to mark lewis:

oh but wait... in recent times, something called PGAs (??) are being

PPA is what i was trying to think of...

used... basically these are private package repositories that one
can add to their dpkg list of software repositories... once added,
one then simply installs from the package just like anything else...

Yeah, someone stull needs to create the package though.

after some quick googling, it doesn't seem all that hard to do... at least not for basics, anyway...

google: how to create deb package

http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/how-to-create-deb-package-ubuntu-debian.html http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/debian-packaging.html http://blog.ideabulbs.com/2010/11/how-to-create-your-own-debianubuntu.html


google: how to create rpm package

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/880227/what-is-the-minimum-i-have-to-do-to- create-an-rpm-file OR http://tinyurl.com/ylkfngo http://rpmbuildtut.wordpress.com/ http://www.oracle-base.com/articles/linux/linux-build-simple-rpm-packages.php


since i'm currently only playing with debian based *nixes, i might play with what i found in the first section... since the 64bit binary is already available, that arch can probably be easily done but i don't know where to get the 32bit file from so as to play with building a package for it...

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Re: new syncterm
By: mark lewis to Deuce on Sun Feb 02 2014 10:32 am

Yeah, someone stull needs to create the package though.

after some quick googling, it doesn't seem all that hard to do... at least not for basics, anyway...

It's not difficult at all usually.

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On Sun, 02 Feb 2014, Deuce wrote to mark lewis:

Yeah, someone stull needs to create the package though.

after some quick googling, it doesn't seem all that hard to do... at
least not for basics, anyway...

It's not difficult at all usually.

after reading a few of the links, it didn't seem so... the mian thing is to have all the necessary parts installed and then to decide which type of package
one is building... a lot of what i saw was for source packages... those are ok but i would guess that, while syncterm may be OSS, for the beginning, you're really interested in providing just binaries??

what can i do to try to help in some way? i do not have any routes into any distributions... this is kind of one reason why i pointed to the PPAs... they are easy enough to add to one's places to look for packages... i would guess that once folks are working with them that it would be easier to later be able to gain an official distribution capability...

FWIW: there are a few folks in fidonet that do this type of stuff... RJ CLay is
one of the first that comes to mind... he is the maintainer for several FTN related packages...

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Re: new syncterm
By: mark lewis to Deuce on Sun Feb 02 2014 06:46 pm

after reading a few of the links, it didn't seem so... the mian thing is to have all the necessary parts installed and then to decide which type of package one is building... a lot of what i saw was for source packages... those are ok but i would guess that, while syncterm may be OSS, for the beginning, you're really interested in providing just binaries??

Well, I'm interested in whatever people prefer to use... that's usually binaries as far as I can tell.

what can i do to try to help in some way? i do not have any routes into any distributions...

Usually you set up the RPM/ebuild/deb stuff and submit it to the distro using a
standard mechanism, then it gets feedback and imported into their trees. If you get it mostly working, hold off a bit until I do the 1.0 release I'm planning for "really soon now".

FWIW: there are a few folks in fidonet that do this type of stuff... RJ
CLay is one of the first that comes to mind... he is the maintainer for several FTN related packages...

Well, I'm not going to go looking for other people who may want to help, I expect people who want their OS supported to do it themselves, then come to me for support.

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On Sun, 02 Feb 2014, Deuce wrote to mark lewis:

Re: new syncterm
By: mark lewis to Deuce on Sun Feb 02 2014 06:46 pm

after reading a few of the links, it didn't seem so... the mian
thing is to have all the necessary parts installed and then to
decide which type of package one is building... a lot of what i saw
was for source packages... those are ok but i would guess that,
while syncterm may be OSS, for the beginning, you're really
interested in providing just binaries??

Well, I'm interested in whatever people prefer to use... that's
usually binaries as far as I can tell.

yes... for many... some like to install source from packages which then get compiled and installed that way...

what can i do to try to help in some way? i do not have any routes
into any distributions...

Usually you set up the RPM/ebuild/deb stuff and submit it to the
distro using a standard mechanism, then it gets feedback and
imported into their trees. If you get it mostly working, hold off a
bit until I do the 1.0 release I'm planning for "really soon now".

i don't know that i can, actually... the machine in question is very limited which is why i was glad to see a binary available for *nix... the gotcha that got me was that it was a 64bit binary which won't run on a 32bit system...

FWIW: there are a few folks in fidonet that do this type of stuff... RJ
CLay is one of the first that comes to mind... he is the maintainer for several FTN related packages...

Well, I'm not going to go looking for other people who may want to
help, I expect people who want their OS supported to do it
themselves, then come to me for support.

i think that (my coming to you for support) is how we got to this point ;)

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Re: new syncterm
By: Deuce to mark lewis on Sun Feb 02 2014 21:35:09

Well, I'm interested in whatever people prefer to use... that's usually binaries as far as I can tell.
Well, I'm not going to go looking for other people who may want to help, I expect people who want their OS supported to do it themselves, then come
to me for support.

I believe you already have support for the Raspberry Pi and Raspbian, but if you need any help on that, let me know and I will see if I can help you out there....

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Re: new syncterm
By: mark lewis to Deuce on Mon Feb 03 2014 03:56 pm

FWIW: there are a few folks in fidonet that do this type of stuff... RJ CLay is one of the first that comes to mind... he is the maintainer for several FTN related packages...

Well, I'm not going to go looking for other people who may want to
help, I expect people who want their OS supported to do it
themselves, then come to me for support.

i think that (my coming to you for support) is how we got to this point ;)

Indeed it is. Now get cracking! :-)

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Re: new syncterm
By: KF5QEO to Deuce on Tue Feb 04 2014 01:13 am

I believe you already have support for the Raspberry Pi and Raspbian,
but if you need any help on that, let me know and I will see if I can help you out there....

As far as I know, FreeBSD is the only OS which has a package distributed with it. As far as I know, adding a Debian package would get it into Raspbian... but nobody has done that yet.

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On Tue, 04 Feb 2014, Deuce wrote to mark lewis:

FWIW: there are a few folks in fidonet that do this type of
stuff... RJ CLay is one of the first that comes to mind... he is
the maintainer for several FTN related packages...

Well, I'm not going to go looking for other people who may want
to help, I expect people who want their OS supported to do it themselves, then come to me for support.

i think that (my coming to you for support) is how we got to this
point ;)

Indeed it is. Now get cracking! :-)

hahaha... my OS, *nix, is supported... i just asked for a 32bit flavor along side the 64bit flavor... i would not have asked but my machine doesn't have the
resources to compile it... danged thing only has 512M RAM (768M actually but the BIOS won't use more than 512M) and it takes 5 minutes just to load firefox :/ i won't even mention the 13G PATA HD being used...

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Re: new syncterm
By: mark lewis to Deuce on Tue Feb 04 2014 01:08 pm

hahaha... my OS, *nix, is supported... i just asked for a 32bit flavor
along side the 64bit flavor... i would not have asked but my machine
doesn't have the resources to compile it... danged thing only has 512M RAM (768M actually but the BIOS won't use more than 512M) and it takes 5
minutes just to load firefox :/ i won't even mention the 13G PATA HD being used...

You kids these days don't know how easy you have it! You have more than enought resources to compile SyncTERM, it'll just take a while. Back in the day, I would compile stuff for days!

As for 13G! Damn, that's vast fields of space! SyncTERM doesn't need anywhere
near that!

Seriously though, you could do it on that system if you really wanted to... the
requirements are very low.

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El 02/02/14 03:04, Deuce escribió:

Re: new syncterm
By: mark lewis to Deuce on Sat Feb 01 2014 10:23 am

oh but wait... in recent times, something called PGAs (??) are being used... basically these are private package repositories that one can add to their dpkg list of software repositories... once added, one then simply installs from the package just like anything else...

Yeah, someone stull needs to create the package though.

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i think that will made a syncterm package for our distro (Huayra
GNU/Linux) in few weeks. Huayra is a debian based distro that i working now.

I see that the sysop of Rocasa was package sbbs. It is a good start maybe.

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Re: Re: new syncterm
By: Ragnarok to Deuce on Tue Feb 04 2014 11:25 pm

i think that will made a syncterm package for our distro (Huayra
GNU/Linux) in few weeks. Huayra is a debian based distro that i working
now.

I'm more than happy to host the /debian directory in CVS with the sources as well once you get it done.

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On Tue, 04 Feb 2014, Deuce wrote to mark lewis:

hahaha... my OS, *nix, is supported... i just asked for a 32bit
flavor along side the 64bit flavor... i would not have asked but my
machine doesn't have the resources to compile it... danged thing
only has 512M RAM (768M actually but the BIOS won't use more than
512M) and it takes 5 minutes just to load firefox :/ i won't even
mention the 13G PATA HD being used...

You kids these days don't know how easy you have it! You have more
than enought resources to compile SyncTERM, it'll just take a while.
Back in the day, I would compile stuff for days!

no, there's not enough resources on that machine... definitely not for several days of compiling anything...

As for 13G! Damn, that's vast fields of space! SyncTERM doesn't
need anywhere near that!

ummm... that's 13G in total... there's not much left available and if i try to install the necessary compiling tools, there will be a whole lot less... i had to reinstall that machine after such a failed attempt some weeks back... running out of drive space is not fun...

Seriously though, you could do it on that system if you really
wanted to... the requirements are very low.

it isn't syncterm's requirements that i run into... it is all the other mess' requirements :/

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Following up a post on Tue, 04 Feb 2014, from Ragnarok to Deuce:

I see that the sysop of Rocasa was package sbbs. It is a good start
maybe.

unless i'm mistaken, that would be RJClay whom i mentioned a few days ago in relation to syncterm ;)

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