Hello Access.

While chewing on a twig, you spoke thus to me:

said in a previous post... when you have a running game like the
Vikings do, all you need is a steady quarterback and one that
doesn't feel like he has to do it all. :)

So you're saying the packers never had a running game? You're

Nope, what I said was the Vikings have had a good running game the
last few years. What they needed was a reliable and steady
quarterback that knows how to win. :)

crazy. I think it's more of a play-calling issue for one (I'll
blame Mike Sherman there), and for two.. to hold the good

Well, since the quarterback, except under rare cicumstances, doesn't
not has has not called the plays for many years... yeah that's a
given. :)

records as well as the bad ones (interceptions), is sort of
saying that half the time you probably just winged it up there
hoping for someone to catch it.

Unhunh, and it worked sometimes didn't it? :)

Oh, and watching him for the last 18 years, you should know as
well as everyone, that the interceptions won't end there. :)

Of course they won't, the difference though is how many he will
complete to his own receivers and how effectively the team can move
the ball. Remember the Vikings do have a very good defense too. :)

There's plenty out there that are 'team' players, rather than
all about themselves. Peyton Manning? Ben Rothlesburger? Joe
Montana? Did any of them badmouth their GM in public? Are any

I cannot say for sure and when it comes down to it, I don't think
you can either. :)

of them pretending to be retired so they don't have to go to
training camp? Want me to keep listing more? I'd say about 90%
of the NFL haven't pulled the crap Favre has.

Hmmm, sounds more like sour grapes to me. :)

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Hello tbirdsradio.

While chewing on a twig, you spoke thus to Access Denied:

Nah. I would've taken Montana over Marino any day.

Montana had long since retired at that point.

Yes and his last job at Kansas City wasn't all that glorious
either. :)

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Hello tbirdsradio.

While chewing on a twig, you spoke thus to me:

shouldn't see much over 200 yards on average. :) Of course with
the running game at over 200 yards... ball controll you know?
:)

Oh yeah. If the running game stays healty that's probably the
most coveted qb posistion in the league. No doubt!

Exactly! The passing game can and usually is exciting but running
the ball and maintaining controll of the ball is what wins the most
games. :)

I don't however think that Farve will be happy for long just
handing the ball off and tossing screen passes for an entire
season.

I tend to agree with you there but we shall see. :)

He's bound to have some big yardage games when teams
continually keep 8 in the box just to stop the run.

Yeppers, and they do have a decent core of receivers now to go
along with the running game. Later on in the season it's going to be
like the Robert Smith, Randy Moss deal... pick you poison. If you
stack up against the run you'll get hurt by the pass. At least
that's what we're hoping. <g>


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Hello tbirdsradio.

While chewing on a twig, you spoke thus to me:

them. :) I would think that with a viable passing offense, they
won't be able to stack up against the run all the time. :)

Exactly! I can't imagine Brett NOT having some really big
passing games. With that kind of running threat, play action
all day and with teams stuffing 8 in the box.....WHEW! A
defensive squad's nightmare.

hehehehe, indeed! I don't know just how good they will be this year
or even if they will make the playoffs but I do think they will win
their share of games. I guess the first real test will come Sunday
against San Francisco. :)


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Nah. I would've taken Montana over Marino any day.

Montana had long since retired at that point.

Yes and his last job at Kansas City wasn't all that glorious
either. :)

I still remember cheering for Diamond Joe though during that phase.

Did you know that Earl Campbell wanted to play for Shula? Had that
of happened, Dan "The Man" Marino and the Dolphins would have
scored a Superbowl. Course that's nothing but mere speculation.:)
Would have been something to see though.

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Exactly! The passing game can and usually is exciting but running
the ball and maintaining controll of the ball is what wins the most
games. :)

Consumption of the beloved game-clock. ;)

along with the running game. Later on in the season it's going to be
like the Robert Smith, Randy Moss deal... pick you poison. If you

I remember those days. Pep slinging the ball down the field to
Moss our hitting Carter on a slant.

Moss & Carter were possibly one of the most dangerous WR duo's to have
ever played the game.

One of the other dynamic duos that come to mind is the Dolphins Marx
brothers. That's offense at it's best.

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hehehehe, indeed! I don't know just how good they will be this year
or even if they will make the playoffs but I do think they will win
their share of games. I guess the first real test will come Sunday
against San Francisco. :)

Yes it is impressive how the 9ers have improved under the leadership
of M.Singletary but i don't think you have anything to worry about
this week.

The Vikings have a really tough schedule. Weeks 6, 7 & 8 are brutal!
Baltimore, Pittsburgh & A second matchup with the Pack at...you
guessed it, GB.

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Re: FOOTBALL
By: The Curmudgeon to Access Denied on Thu Sep 24 2009 01:42 pm

Unhunh, and it worked sometimes didn't it? :)

Once in awhile. Most of the time when we didn't need it. But yes, once in awhile.

Of course they won't, the difference though is how many he will
complete to his own receivers and how effectively the team can move
the ball. Remember the Vikings do have a very good defense too. :)

As a Packer fan I resent your Viking praise. The Vikings (and yes, the Bears too) suck! :)

I cannot say for sure and when it comes down to it, I don't think
you can either. :)

Well, I did say "in public." Which means we all would've heard of it.

Hmmm, sounds more like sour grapes to me. :)

If you wish to call it that. His former teammates still respect him as a football player, but a lot of them lost respect for him because of the stuff he pulled here. It's all good though, we don't have to deal with it anymore.

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As a Packer fan I resent your Viking praise. The Vikings (and yes, the Bears too) suck! :)

OMG i can't believe the blasphemy going on here!

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SUGGESTION SUGGESTION to add more fun
weekly BLOWOUT GAME OF THE WEEK. [you know 'winning by the most points]

You mean sort of like last night's "Colts at Cardinals" game ?

I don't have a problem with it. Make it a bonus point(s) of some kind?

What say the league?

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Hello tbirdsradio.

While chewing on a twig, you spoke thus to me:

Yes and his last job at Kansas City wasn't all that glorious
either. :)

I still remember cheering for Diamond Joe though during that

phase.

Yeah that must have been tough... other than the tight end... at
least I think Gonzalas was there then, he really didn't have a
decent receiving corps. :(

Did you know that Earl Campbell wanted to play for Shula? Had
that of happened, Dan "The Man" Marino and the Dolphins would
have scored a Superbowl. Course that's nothing but mere
speculation.:) Would have been something to see though.

Yeah, it really would have been something! Of course, way back
when they had Larry Czonka and Jim Kick along with Greese as Qb, now
there was a tandem that would win some games. :)


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Hello tbirdsradio.

While chewing on a twig, you spoke thus to me:

the ball and maintaining controll of the ball is what wins the
most games. :)

Consumption of the beloved game-clock. ;)

absolutely, if you can keep the other teams offense off the field,
the game is usually yours. :)

I remember those days. Pep slinging the ball down the field to
Moss our hitting Carter on a slant.

Unhunh, Moss especially in his rookie year was phenomenal. He's
still playing and still a very good receiver though I think he's
lost a step or two from his glory days at Minnesota. :)

Moss & Carter were possibly one of the most dangerous WR duo's
to have ever played the game.

Oh I'm sure they would have to rank right up there but you know,
I've not seen anyone yet who could play the sidelines like Carter
did just dragging his toes inbounds while the rest of his body was
across the sidelines. Only he could catch that pass and the
defender could do very little to stop it.

One of the other dynamic duos that come to mind is the
Dolphins Marx brothers. That's offense at it's best.

Oh my yes, there was yet another dynamic duo!

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Hello tbirdsradio.

While chewing on a twig, you spoke thus to me:

Yes it is impressive how the 9ers have improved under the
leadership of M.Singletary but i don't think you have anything
to worry about this week.

Oh there were a few things to worry about. :) Ya gotta give
Singletary credit for the way he's got that team turned around! This
team of his is going to be a factor and that's for sure!

The Vikings have a really tough schedule. Weeks 6, 7 & 8 are
brutal! Baltimore, Pittsburgh & A second matchup with the Pack
at...you guessed it, GB.

hehehehe, well it will soon lead us to know if they have what it
takes to be a contender eh? :) I'll tell you though, this last game
may put to rest some of the critics about Farve only throwing short
balls and less than two hundred yards of passing. If I remember
right he got around 300 yards passing, two td's and of course that
ill fated interception but he made up for it in the final drive. :)


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Hello Access.

Unhunh, and it worked sometimes didn't it? :)

Once in awhile. Most of the time when we didn't need it. But
yes, once in awhile.

:) well at least we can agree on something. <g>

complete to his own receivers and how effectively the team can
move the ball. Remember the Vikings do have a very good defense
too. :)

As a Packer fan I resent your Viking praise. The Vikings (and
yes, the Bears too) suck! :)

LOL, well I'm not praising the Vikings... just stating the obvious
facts. The defense has been very good of recent years... just the
offense has tended to sputter if not fail completely....errr....
except maybe the running game. <g>

Hmmm, sounds more like sour grapes to me. :)

If you wish to call it that. His former teammates still
respect him as a football player, but a lot of them lost
respect for him because of the stuff he pulled here. It's all
good though, we don't have to deal with it anymore.

Well, one wonders if there will be any hard feelings on the field
come Monday night when the two teams meet for the first time since
Farve came over to the Vikings. :)


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when they had Larry Czonka and Jim Kick along with Greese as Qb, now
there was a tandem that would win some games. :)

The "Zonk" was great especially with "The Mercury" in the backfield
with him. You can start to see why D line rotation has become such
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Consumption of the beloved game-clock. ;)

absolutely, if you can keep the other teams offense off the field,
the game is usually yours. :)

Espcially if you were the Arizona Cardinals sunday night. ;p
Damn that was a strategic ass whoopin. Peyton really reminds
me of Marino. Their command and leadership is off the charts.

still playing and still a very good receiver though I think he's
lost a step or two from his glory days at Minnesota. :)

Madden says that the older a receiver gets though, the better he gets
at route running. Makes alot of sense when you think about it because
with the advent of film study, players just can't rely on that raw
ability like they sometimes do during their rookie seasons.

I've not seen anyone yet who could play the sidelines like Carter
did just dragging his toes inbounds while the rest of his body was
across the sidelines. Only he could catch that pass and the
defender could do very little to stop it.

Indeed. When you consider those types of physical abilities (which
C.Carter obviously had) and then combine them with his obvious
intelligence and love for the game, what developes is the consumate professional athlete. I remember him (C.Carter) being vocal about
wanting Dan Marino to come to the Vikings after Miami voted him out.

The disrespect (at least in my mind) the Dolphins organization
displayed for Shula and Marino are two reasons i continue to
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balls and less than two hundred yards of passing. If I remember
right he got around 300 yards passing, two td's and of course that

Yep. Threw 24 completions out of 46 attempts for 301 yds and 2 td's.

If your a 49'er fan, (which i'm not) it was a heartbreaker for sure.
A win's a win but fate was definately smiling on the Vikings that
day because they were a beaten team. ;p

Funny i remember sighing with relief when they scored because i was
pissed about losing another game in DB. :)

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Re: FOOTBALL
By: The Curmudgeon to Access Denied on Tue Sep 29 2009 02:20 am

LOL, well I'm not praising the Vikings... just stating the obvious
facts. The defense has been very good of recent years... just the
offense has tended to sputter if not fail completely....errr....
except maybe the running game. <g>

This is true. But if you remember last year, it was vs the Packers that AP got injured and the Pack went on to win like 34-0 or something. I was at that game, too. It was GREAT! :)

Well, one wonders if there will be any hard feelings on the field
come Monday night when the two teams meet for the first time since
Farve came over to the Vikings. :)

AJ Hawk, Nick Barnett, and a couple other guys have been interviewed already.. and for the most part, their words: "He's not in a red jersey anymore." :)

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