• New weight loss plan!

    From nightcrawler@VERT/DARKSANC to All on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 22:31:23
    New weight loss plan, garanteed to lose pounds quicker than ever before!
    Just watch one hour of Wendy Wright, and you will be making so many trips to the John to purge your stomach of its conents, you will be on a fast track to losing as much weigh as you see fit. Watch her an hour a day for one week and just see the results! Call now!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US8f1w1cYvs

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  • From Curt@VERT/UBBS2006 to nightcrawler on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 17:26:00
    New weight loss plan, garanteed to lose pounds quicker than ever before! n>Just watch one hour of Wendy Wright, and you will be making so many trips to n>the John to purge your stomach of its conents, you will be on a fast track to n>losing as much weigh as you see fit. Watch her an hour a day for one week and n>just see the results! Call now!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US8f1w1cYvs

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    "There are two ways of looking at the world - through faith and superstition or
    through the rigours of logic, observation and evidence - in other words, through
    reason. Reason and a respect for evidence are precious commodities, the source of human progress and our safeguard against fundamentalists and those who profit
    from obscuring the truth. Yet, today, society appears to be retreating from reason." - RichardDawkins.net

    Funny how he accuses fundies of profiting from obscuring the truth in the very paragraph that comes from a "for sale" page on his website where he is selling a
    book that falsely creates a black-and-white strawman that any faith is incompatible with reason.

    "...retreating from reason...". Even Dawkins seems to know that atheism like his
    in decline.

    It's sad. Dawkins is a hypocrite and is hurting science with this all-or-nothing
    bullshit.


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  • From Curt@VERT/UBBS2006 to nightcrawler on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 19:32:00
    New weight loss plan, garanteed to lose pounds quicker than ever before! n>Just watch one hour of Wendy Wright, and you will be making so many trips to n>the John to purge your stomach of its conents, you will be on a fast track to n>losing as much weigh as you see fit. Watch her an hour a day for one week and n>just see the results! Call now!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US8f1w1cYvs

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    All,

    Please see this recent lecture by Eugenie Scott of NCSE on the current state of
    the battle to get creationism in the schools. Even after these many years, the creationists are still at it.

    This lecture clarifies why it is important to keep sceintific cirriculum in the
    hands of scientisits and not the courts. It is articulate and informative and is
    not a bashing of religion.

    http://www.youtube.com/v/pItVGYa863k

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  • From nightcrawler@VERT/DARKSANC to Curt on Thursday, January 21, 2010 04:05:14
    Re: New weight loss plan!
    By: Curt to nightcrawler on Wed Jan 20 2010 05:26 pm

    Funny how he accuses fundies of profiting from obscuring the truth in the ve paragraph that comes from a "for sale" page on his website where he is selli book that falsely creates a black-and-white strawman that any faith is incompatible with reason.

    So your are saying that there is a form of faith that IS logical?

    Can you list examples?

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  • From Shadow@VERT/ARENA to nightcrawler on Friday, January 22, 2010 06:41:33
    Re: New weight loss plan!
    By: nightcrawler to Curt on Thu Jan 21 2010 04:05 am

    So your are saying that there is a form of faith that IS logical?

    Can you list examples?

    Though most of us "logic-minded" folk are unlikely to admit it, even a foundation of science requires an explicit investment in faith, in that since all our "truths" are hypotheses, we must have faith that our data are accurate.
    With few exceptions, our "empirical" data are, by definition, subject to human error and misinterpretation.

    The difference between our faith and theological faith is that the man of logic-based faith has the ability (and oft times responsibility) to admit that his faith may be in error, which leads to growth and further discovery, whereas the man of religion-based faith must never waver, lest he be condemned.

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  • From Atari X@VERT/DMINE to Shadow on Friday, January 22, 2010 19:57:29
    Re: New weight loss plan!
    By: Shadow to nightcrawler on Fri Jan 22 2010 06:41 am

    Re: New weight loss plan!
    By: nightcrawler to Curt on Thu Jan 21 2010 04:05 am

    So your are saying that there is a form of faith that IS logical?

    Can you list examples?

    Though most of us "logic-minded" folk are unlikely to admit it, even a foundation of science requires an explicit investment in faith, in that sinc all our "truths" are hypotheses, we must have faith that our data are accura
    With few exceptions, our "empirical" data are, by definition, subject to hu error and misinterpretation.

    That's complete, utter horseshit. No need to continue - it's crap, it was crap when you wrote it, and it's crap now that I read it.


    The difference between our faith and theological faith is that the man of logic-based faith has the ability (and oft times responsibility) to admit th his faith may be in error, which leads to growth and further discovery, wher the man of religion-based faith must never waver, lest he be condemned.


    This is semantic vocabulary masturbation. It serves no purpose except for your own delusional self-pleasure.


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  • From mrproper@VERT/WARZONE to Atari X on Saturday, January 23, 2010 00:29:25
    Re: New weight loss plan!
    By: Atari X to Shadow on Fri Jan 22 2010 07:57 pm

    foundation of science requires an explicit investment in faith, in that sinc all our "truths" are hypotheses, we must have faith that our data are accura
    With few exceptions, our "empirical" data are, by definition, subject
    to hu error and misinterpretation.

    That's complete, utter horseshit. No need to continue - it's crap, it was crap when you wrote it, and it's crap now that I read it.

    what would give a scientist motivation to even study his/her trade without having some sort of faith that the final solution will work?

    The difference between our faith and theological faith is that the man
    of logic-based faith has the ability (and oft times responsibility) to admit th his faith may be in error, which leads to growth and further discovery, wher the man of religion-based faith must never waver, lest
    he be condemned.

    faith in religion can waiver, it does all the time.. why do you think the world has been at war since the texts have been written.

    This is semantic vocabulary masturbation. It serves no purpose except for your own delusional self-pleasure.

    that of course is your own opinion in which you have all the right to.


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  • From Shadow@VERT/ARENA to Atari X on Sunday, January 24, 2010 18:52:33
    Re: New weight loss plan!
    By: Atari X to Shadow on Fri Jan 22 2010 07:57 pm

    That's complete, utter horseshit. No need to continue - it's crap, it was c when you wrote it, and it's crap now that I read it.

    This is semantic vocabulary masturbation. It serves no purpose except for y own delusional self-pleasure.

    Dude, what's with all the hate? What pleasure could I possibly take in pointing out that empiricism requires faith in accuracy, especially since it's something that I personally find troubling?

    If I'm a seeker of fact, why would I want to cast doubt upon my own findings?

    I really don't understand your motivation.

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  • From Curt@VERT/UBBS2006 to Shadow on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 23:39:00


    The difference between our faith and theological faith is that the man of S>logic-based faith has the ability (and oft times responsibility) to admit that
    his faith may be in error, which leads to growth and further discovery, wherea
    the man of religion-based faith must never waver, lest he be condemned.


    This simply isn't true of everyone. My religous beliefs have changed quite dramically over the years actually. And there are many like me. I've gone all over the place from fundamentalist to athiest and have would up where I label myself as a theist freindly agnostic.

    I'm sure everyone here knows who Francis Collins is....right?

    Dr. Francis Collins said:

    "I had always assumed that faith was based on purely emotional and irrational arguments, and was astounded to discover, initially in the writings of the Oxford scholar C.S. Lewis and subsequently from many other sources, that one could build a very strong case for the plausibility of the existence of God on purely rational grounds. My earlier atheist's assertion that "I know there is no
    God" emerged as the least defensible. As the British writer G.K. Chesterton famously remarked, "Atheism is the most daring of all dogmas, for it is the assertion of a universal negative."

    [http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/03/collins.commentary/index.html]

    I can't wait to read his book "The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief." Why don't we all read it and critique it ourselves like the impartial free-thinkers we all think we are?





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  • From Curt@VERT/UBBS2006 to mrproper on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 23:41:00


    faith in religion can waiver, it does all the time.. why do you think the worl
    has been at war since the texts have been written.


    THANK YOU

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