• Spirituality

    From Grasshopper@VERT/ONENESS to All on Monday, June 29, 2020 02:06:36
    What happened to the spirituality aspect of religion? I see people doing it more for show than anything. Main stream religion seems to have lost that.

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Grasshopper on Monday, June 29, 2020 19:19:00
    On 06-29-20 02:06, Grasshopper wrote to All <=-

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    What happened to the spirituality aspect of religion? I see people
    doing it more for show than anything. Main stream religion seems to
    have lost that.

    A lot of what passes for "religion" these days is about power and control of the people. The Catholic Church started out as an instrument of the Roman Empire, from what I understand, after Emperor Constantine converted to Christianity in the 4th Century.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Grasshopper on Monday, June 29, 2020 03:28:57
    Re: Spirituality
    By: Grasshopper to All on Mon Jun 29 2020 02:06 am

    What happened to the spirituality aspect of religion? I see people doing it more for show than anything. Main stream religio
    seems to have lost that.


    Because a lot of the people inside is just in it for the power and perks, it seems to me.

    Like, you visit a monastery or convent, and only the really old people is in it for vocation. Young members don't want to go
    Africa to help people as the old ones did back in the day because it is too much work :-)

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Grasshopper on Monday, June 29, 2020 09:31:00
    Re: Spirituality
    By: Grasshopper to All on Mon Jun 29 2020 02:06 am

    What happened to the spirituality aspect of religion? I see people doing it


    Could you please elaborate? What have you witnessed to support this? I'm curious as to how you've reached this conclusion.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Vk3jed on Monday, June 29, 2020 09:35:00
    Re: Re: Spirituality
    By: Vk3jed to Grasshopper on Mon Jun 29 2020 07:19 pm

    On 06-29-20 02:06, Grasshopper wrote to All <=-

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    What happened to the spirituality aspect of religion? I see people doing it more for show than anything. Main stream religion seems to have lost that.

    A lot of what passes for "religion" these days is about power and control of the people. The Catholic Church started out as an instrument of the Roman Empire, from what I understand, after Emperor Constantine converted to Christianity in the 4th Century.


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    In a case where people will follow the church before the state, it was essential to establish a system where the church became a branch of the
    state. The divine right of kings was such a system, where kings became
    leaders of men because it was God's will.

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Moondog on Tuesday, June 30, 2020 11:28:00
    On 06-29-20 09:35, Moondog wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    In a case where people will follow the church before the state, it was essential to establish a system where the church became a branch of the state. The divine right of kings was such a system, where kings became leaders of men because it was God's will.

    Yeah, that's another way of explaining it, highlighting that the Church really was an instrument of political power.


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  • From Grasshopper@VERT/ONENESS to Moondog on Tuesday, June 30, 2020 01:00:06
    Re: Spirituality
    By: Moondog to Grasshopper on Mon Jun 29 2020 09:31 am

    Hello Moondog,

    Could you please elaborate? What have you witnessed to support this? I'm curious as to how you've reached this conclusion.

    Let me try to answer you. I was a devout Catholic for many, many years. I listened with my heart at the teachings that were given to me in Catechism. I listened with my heart at what the Priest read for the gospel and then the homily. As I grew older I became disheartened at what I saw in the majority of the people and yes, sometimes the Priest himself. I found that for most the words were hollow. Everyone listened but most did not do what was just spoken
    in the gospel. I wanted to shout hypocrites during mass. I saw so many as just "whited sepluchers". I am not saying everyone in the church was like that but
    it did seem to be almost all. The getting angry because someone is driving too slow to get out of the church parking lot. Or purposefully cutting someone off in the church parking lot because someone's time is more valuable than someone elses. At one time, the Priest himself stated he would try to make the mass shorter so everyone can get home and watch the football game. A "football
    game" really? That is more important than hearing the word of God? I have seen these things play out in so many different ways through out my life that I finally decided it was enough.

    I think the message Jesus gave was wonderful and a lot could be learned from it. I just feel people have just watered it down so much that it has been cheapened. I have nothing against people who go to church. I just hope they go for the right reasons. I hope they 'open their ears and hear'. But, I feel
    that doesn't happen for so many. It is sad. The beautiful messages are right there and yet it might as well not be there for so many. Many will come but
    few will listen.

    There is more but that may be more of a novel then. So, going to church is not a bad thing. Being Catholic is not a bad thing. It is what people do with it that makes it bad or good. And unfortunately I have seen more of the bad than good.
    I was also of the generation where Priests taught 'fire and brim stone' which does not go over well. It is hard to think of a God who would be so spiteful because of not believing a certain way. Is it the believing or is the "good" a person does that makes the world a better place?

    Hence, for me, it is more about spirituality. I now feel there are many paths to God. Not just a single one. It is the "goodness" in oneself that leads one to God. The willingness to help your fellow person. To think of others first, regardless of their religion. To respect others regardless. This is Jesus at
    his essence. He didn't care about other's religion. He is love. And with love there can be no hate or discrimination. How can anyone with love in their
    heart be "bad" because they aren't of another religion. Religion, in my eyes, has caused division. Love knows no religion. I am talking about the "love"
    like Jesus had for people. With that, sort of caring, there can be no bad deeds because that would contradict "Love".

    I don't know if I conveyed the depths of what I am trying to say or why I made that statement but I hope I have made the start of an impression of that statement.

    Peace and Love, Love and peace to all.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Grasshopper on Tuesday, June 30, 2020 04:28:00
    Re: Spirituality
    By: Grasshopper to Moondog on Tue Jun 30 2020 01:00 am

    Hello Moondog,

    Could you please elaborate? What have you witnessed to support this? I'm curious as to how you've reached this conclusion.

    Let me try to answer you. I was a devout Catholic for many, many years. I listened with my heart at the teachings that were given to me in Catechism. I listened with
    heart at what the Priest read for the gospel and then the homily. As I grew older I became disheartened at what I saw in the majority of the people and yes, sometimes
    the Priest himself. I found that for most the words were hollow. Everyone listened but most did not do what was just spoken
    in the gospel. I wanted to shout hypocrites during mass. I saw so many as just "whited sepluchers". I am not saying everyone in the church was like that but
    it did seem to be almost all. The getting angry because someone is driving too slow to get out of the church parking lot. Or purposefully cutting someone off in the
    church parking lot because someone's time is more valuable than someone elses. At one time, the Priest himself stated he would try to make the mass shorter so everyon
    can get home and watch the football game. A "football
    game" really? That is more important than hearing the word of God? I have seen these things play out in so many different ways through out my life that I finally deci
    it was enough.

    You know, you have reminded me of a collaborator from Opus we used to have. Very hardcore believer, or so you would think. He was a lying bastard. He would betray,
    backstab, lie as to make other people feel bad, lie as to damage the reputation of other people. My (ex)boss once brought the subject to him, and what he did was to
    answer somethi g like "Flesh is weak, only God gets to judge me."

    So damn wrong man. To claim you believe and then trash it away like that. I am sure the pityful bastard thinks he can sin to his heart's content and then make it right
    by confessing five minutes later.

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  • From Grasshopper@VERT/ONENESS to Arelor on Tuesday, June 30, 2020 13:04:00
    Re: Spirituality
    By: Arelor to Grasshopper on Tue Jun 30 2020 04:28 am

    Hello Arelor,

    So damn wrong man. To claim you believe and then trash it away like that. I am sure the pityful bastard thinks he can sin to his heart's content and then make it right by confessing five minutes later.

    You get it Arelor. That is not how it is suppose to work. Jesus didn't give permission to "harm your fellow" because you can say you are sorry later. I don't want to use "sin" because that has been watered down and to some extent removed from ownership of the action. I really don't like this "Oh, the devil made me do it." B.S. Just another way to say I can "harm others" and feel ok with it. No, you shouldn't feel ok about it and since you took action to harm someone (e.g. with words, physically, emotionally), then one better take action to reverse it if one is really repentitive of that.

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  • From Dennisk@VERT/DUNGEON to Vk3jed on Tuesday, June 30, 2020 22:29:00
    Vk3jed wrote to Moondog <=-

    On 06-29-20 09:35, Moondog wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    In a case where people will follow the church before the state, it was essential to establish a system where the church became a branch of the state. The divine right of kings was such a system, where kings became leaders of men because it was God's will.

    Yeah, that's another way of explaining it, highlighting that the Church really was an instrument of political power.

    The Church is dead because it is no longer a leader, but a follower. Mainstream churches more or less adapt to the changing cultural more of society. At most, they will resist a little. When the Church is essentially following Liberalism, then Church becomes nothing of any real meaning.


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Vk3jed on Tuesday, June 30, 2020 22:40:00
    Re: Re: Spirituality
    By: Vk3jed to Moondog on Tue Jun 30 2020 11:28 am

    On 06-29-20 09:35, Moondog wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    In a case where people will follow the church before the state, it was essential to establish a system where the church became a branch of the state. The divine right of kings was such a system, where kings became leaders of men because it was God's will.

    Yeah, that's another way of explaining it, highlighting that the Church real was an instrument of political power.


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    At one time, the church was the state by itself. When man began to look
    beyond their basic survival and wonder about how items moved in the sky, or
    how seasons worked, I imagine it was easy to establish the existence of an outside source, or architect that lives outside our realm. This became important for laws. Kosher and Halal laws rose from health issues regarding the proper and improper storing and preparation of certain foods. By making some laws as being the laws laid down by a diety, these laws were easier to enforce out of fear of going against the will of a higher power as opposed to the big guy waving a stick saying he's the boss. When the laws became so complex it was hard for the average person to keep track of them, then that laid the groundwork for organized religions and tiered leadership within it.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Grasshopper on Tuesday, June 30, 2020 23:00:00
    Re: Spirituality
    By: Grasshopper to Moondog on Tue Jun 30 2020 01:00 am

    Re: Spirituality
    By: Moondog to Grasshopper on Mon Jun 29 2020 09:31 am

    Hello Moondog,

    Could you please elaborate? What have you witnessed to support this? I' curious as to how you've reached this conclusion.

    Let me try to answer you. I was a devout Catholic for many, many years. I li ecame disheartened at what I saw in the majority of the people and yes, some in the gospel. I wanted to shout hypocrites during mass. I saw so many as ju it did seem to be almost all. The getting angry because someone is driving me, the Priest himself stated he would try to make the mass shorter so every game" really? That is more important than hearing the word of God? I have se

    I think the message Jesus gave was wonderful and a lot could be learned from it. I just feel people have just watered it down so much that it has been ch that doesn't happen for so many. It is sad. The beautiful messages are righ few will listen.

    There is more but that may be more of a novel then. So, going to church is n a bad thing. Being Catholic is not a bad thing. It is what people do with it I was also of the generation where Priests taught 'fire and brim stone' whic es the world a better place?

    Hence, for me, it is more about spirituality. I now feel there are many path to God. Not just a single one. It is the "goodness" in oneself that leads on to God. The willingness to help your fellow person. To think of others first his essence. He didn't care about other's religion. He is love. And with lov heart be "bad" because they aren't of another religion. Religion, in my eyes like Jesus had for people. With that, sort of caring, there can be no bad de

    I don't know if I conveyed the depths of what I am trying to say or why I ma

    Peace and Love, Love and peace to all.


    Thanks for the elaboration. I was raised Luthern, and may pastor would joke about the folk who were sinners all week, then saints on Sundays. That
    didn't stop him from trying.

    There were also cliques and politics that played behind the scenes regarding members, as well as those who believed they were holier than everyone else,
    yet were the first ones to throw stones and gossip and look down on others.

    I can see how for some it may be seen as a required social experience, or
    they go through the paces because their peers or someone else they conduct business with is watching. Sitting through the sermon related to social and business connections.

    I have an uncle who is a Catholic priest, and he joked the average Catholic only went to church for three occasions - for his baptism, his marriage, and his funeral service. I can say the same for some Lutherns.

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Dennisk on Wednesday, July 01, 2020 21:10:00
    On 06-30-20 22:29, Dennisk wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    The Church is dead because it is no longer a leader, but a follower. Mainstream churches more or less adapt to the changing cultural more of society. At most, they will resist a little. When the Church is essentially following Liberalism, then Church becomes nothing of any
    real meaning.

    This sounds more polirical than theological, and these days, I ignore anything looking remotely like US politics.


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Moondog on Wednesday, July 01, 2020 21:14:00
    On 06-30-20 22:40, Moondog wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    At one time, the church was the state by itself. When man began to

    I have read that the original origin of religion in prehistoric times was because we became aware of our own mortality, which was hard to deal with, so the idea of an "afterlife" would have been appealing.

    look beyond their basic survival and wonder about how items moved in
    the sky, or how seasons worked, I imagine it was easy to establish the existence of an outside source, or architect that lives outside our
    realm. This became important for laws. Kosher and Halal laws rose

    Yes, some things can look like they've been "designed".

    from health issues regarding the proper and improper storing and preparation of certain foods. By making some laws as being the laws
    laid down by a diety, these laws were easier to enforce out of fear of going against the will of a higher power as opposed to the big guy

    Definitely. A have noticed that a number of old prohibitions seem based upon health issues of the times when those parts of religious texts were written and the laws laid down.

    waving a stick saying he's the boss. When the laws became so complex
    it was hard for the average person to keep track of them, then that
    laid the groundwork for organized religions and tiered leadership
    within it.

    And then those in power discovered they could control the masses...


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dennisk on Wednesday, July 01, 2020 09:08:00
    Re: Re: Spirituality
    By: Dennisk to Vk3jed on Tue Jun 30 2020 10:29 pm

    Vk3jed wrote to Moondog <=-

    On 06-29-20 09:35, Moondog wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    In a case where people will follow the church before the state, it was essential to establish a system where the church became a branch of the state. The divine right of kings was such a system, where kings became leaders of men because it was God's will.

    Yeah, that's another way of explaining it, highlighting that the Church really was an instrument of political power.

    The Church is dead because it is no longer a leader, but a follower. Mainstream churches more or less adapt to the changing cultural more of society. At most, they will resist a little. When the Church is essentiall following Liberalism, then Church becomes nothing of any real meaning.


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    Seems like there will always be one vocal froup that likes 70% of what they hear, and the 30% they don't like at that moment will be petitioned to be chan ged to suit their lifestyle or not offend their sensibilities.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Vk3jed on Wednesday, July 01, 2020 20:44:00
    Re: Re: Spirituality
    By: Vk3jed to Moondog on Wed Jul 01 2020 09:14 pm


    Definitely. A have noticed that a number of old prohibitions seem based upo health issues of the times when those parts of religious texts were written the laws laid down.


    The Egyptians accidentally discovered a form of hygiene from the belief that evil spirits could get trapped in long, unmanagable hair and beards, and
    their presence will affect your overall health and sanity. The earliest barbers were preists who could excorcise demons by disposing of the offending hair. Lopping off nasty hair probably cured people of lice and other parasites, as well as staved off germs and bacteria living in the hair.

    That may be the origin of why barbers in the middle ages and up into the late 19th century also acted as surgeons and dentists. Blood letting originated
    as pruging evil spirits, then was believed to purge contaminates from the blood.

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  • From Grasshopper@VERT/ONENESS to Moondog on Wednesday, July 01, 2020 22:44:59
    Re: Spirituality
    By: Moondog to Grasshopper on Tue Jun 30 2020 11:00 pm

    Yes,
    I am also not saying that every Catholic / Christian is like this. I am saying that I have witnessed the majority to be like that. I feel that as long as the person is making the concerted effort to help human kind, religion no longer matters to me. Kindness, love and respect is what it boils down to.

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  • From Dennisk@VERT/EOTLBBS to Vk3jed on Thursday, July 02, 2020 20:37:00
    Vk3jed wrote to Dennisk <=-

    On 06-30-20 22:29, Dennisk wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    The Church is dead because it is no longer a leader, but a follower. Mainstream churches more or less adapt to the changing cultural more of society. At most, they will resist a little. When the Church is essentially following Liberalism, then Church becomes nothing of any
    real meaning.

    This sounds more polirical than theological, and these days, I ignore anything looking remotely like US politics.

    No, it is theological, not political. Political Correctness/Wokeness is a religion.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Grasshopper on Thursday, July 02, 2020 11:16:00
    Re: Spirituality
    By: Grasshopper to Moondog on Wed Jul 01 2020 10:44 pm

    Re: Spirituality
    By: Moondog to Grasshopper on Tue Jun 30 2020 11:00 pm

    Yes,
    I am also not saying that every Catholic / Christian is like this. I am sayi dness, love and respect is what it boils down to.


    Regardless of practice, most folk in general can agree on a "do unto others"
    or "treat others as you wish to be treated" philospohy.

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  • From calcmandan@VERT/DIGDIST to Dennisk on Friday, July 03, 2020 20:06:00
    Dennisk wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Vk3jed wrote to Dennisk <=-

    On 06-30-20 22:29, Dennisk wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    The Church is dead because it is no longer a leader, but a follower. Mainstream churches more or less adapt to the changing cultural more of society. At most, they will resist a little. When the Church is essentially following Liberalism, then Church becomes nothing of any
    real meaning.

    This sounds more polirical than theological, and these days, I ignore anything looking remotely like US politics.

    No, it is theological, not political. Political Correctness/Wokeness
    is a religion.

    Of the worst kind. More cultish in my view.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to calcmandan on Friday, July 03, 2020 18:11:11
    Re: Re: Spirituality
    By: calcmandan to Dennisk on Fri Jul 03 2020 08:06 pm

    Dennisk wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Vk3jed wrote to Dennisk <=-

    On 06-30-20 22:29, Dennisk wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    The Church is dead because it is no longer a leader, but a follower. Mainstream churches more or less adapt to the
    changing cultural more of society. At most, they will resist a little. When the Church is essentially following
    Liberalism, then Church becomes nothing of any
    real meaning.

    This sounds more polirical than theological, and these days, I ignore anything looking remotely like US politics.

    No, it is theological, not political. Political Correctness/Wokeness is a religion.

    Of the worst kind. More cultish in my view.

    Daniel Traechin

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    Politics and religion always end up interwingled so badly...

    This reminds me once I was doing some unformal research about Islam's views on slavery. I reached a forum where somebody was
    asking if it was legit in the eyes of Alah to have sex with war slaves. According to their scriptures, it totally is, but
    somebody popped up explaining why it was not ok according to Allah.

    The whole situation struck me as "Hmmm.... ok, our religion endorses behavior that is not politically sustainable, so I am
    going to come up with a way to override our scriptures in order to make our religion politically correct."

    I agree with Dennisk here since the Catholic church has been doing something similar since the middle ages. If you have decided
    in a coulcil that God wants you to kill homosexuals, if you decide to override such decision because it is
    politically ugly you are basically overriding the word of God for convenience.

    But then the debate gets ugly, because you have to check how councils aprove scriptures as valid or reject them, which is a can
    of worms in itself.

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Moondog on Friday, July 03, 2020 21:09:00
    On 07-02-20 11:16, Moondog wrote to Grasshopper <=-

    Regardless of practice, most folk in general can agree on a "do unto others" or "treat others as you wish to be treated" philospohy.

    This is a common thread among belief systems.


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Arelor on Saturday, July 04, 2020 11:24:00
    Re: Re: Spirituality
    By: Arelor to calcmandan on Fri Jul 03 2020 06:11 pm


    Politics and religion always end up interwingled so badly...

    This reminds me once I was doing some unformal research about Islam's views asking if it was legit in the eyes of Alah to have sex with war slaves. Acco somebody popped up explaining why it was not ok according to Allah.

    The whole situation struck me as "Hmmm.... ok, our religion endorses behavio going to come up with a way to override our scriptures in order to make our

    I agree with Dennisk here since the Catholic church has been doing something in a coulcil that God wants you to kill homosexuals, if you decide to overri politically ugly you are basically overriding the word of God for convenienc

    But then the debate gets ugly, because you have to check how councils aprove of worms in itself.


    Funny you mention slavery. Indentured servitude stories are all over the
    Bible and other texts, and technically slave ownership in the US was intended to be indentured until a slave owner won a court decision to keep his slaves indefinitely.

    I've always wondered how the contracts or obligations were written? If slave
    provided a child fathered by the slave owner, was this consentual or obligatory? Were there special or customary rights to be provided for the children? In the sotry of Abraham and Sarah, Sarah provided the Egyptian
    slave named Hagar to provide a son for Abraham. This resulted in the birth
    of Ishmael. After Sarah gave birth to Isaac, Sarah demanded Abraham to kick Hagar and Ishmael out of the house and cast them out to the desert. He fed them bread and water, then sent them along their way. That's wild.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Moondog on Saturday, July 04, 2020 18:29:01
    Re: Spirituality
    By: Moondog to Grasshopper on Thu Jul 02 2020 11:16 am

    Regardless of practice, most folk in general can agree on a "do unto others" or "treat others as you wish to be treated" philospohy.

    This philosophy is prevalent throughout religions for at least 2500 years, and likely far longer.

    Even Hammurabi's code had a basic version of it with "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" and that was nearly 4000 years ago.

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  • From Ayex@VERT/TRDRSBAY to Grasshopper on Saturday, January 23, 2021 10:49:37
    Man I agree!

    On 01:06 29/06 , Grasshopper wrote:

    What happened to the spirituality aspect of religion? I see people doing it more for show than anything. Main stream religion seems to have lost that.

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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZOMBZONE to Moondog on Friday, August 06, 2021 14:16:41
    Re: Re: Spirituality
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Sat Jul 04 2020 11:24 am

    I've always wondered how the contracts or obligations were written? If slav
    provided a child fathered by the slave owner, was this consentual or obligatory? Were there special or customary rights to be provided for the children? In the sotry of Abraham and Sarah, Sarah provided the Egyptian slave named Hagar to provide a son for Abraham. This resulted in the birth of Ishmael. After Sarah gave birth to Isaac, Sarah demanded Abraham to kick Hagar and Ishmael out of the house and cast them out to the desert. He fed them bread and water, then sent them along their way. That's wild.

    What's wild is that, that far back in history, there was a person named SARAH and a person named HAGAR. How is that possible?

    I often wonder was there a Lewis living next door to Abraham?

    A chad?

    A spencer?

    the names are what make it so hard to buy into...

    I suppose most of those names are modern-translations into the closest name of the time to something we know so we read Sarah instead of Shara^seo or something,.. But still, i would prefer the names to be as close to what they were as possible.


    Thanks,
    Zombie Mambo

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  • From Obuing@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Zombie Mambo on Saturday, September 18, 2021 22:09:52
    Re: Re: Spirituality
    By: Zombie Mambo to Moondog on Fri Aug 06 2021 02:16 pm

    Re: Re: Spirituality
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Sat Jul 04 2020 11:24 am

    I've always wondered how the contracts or obligations were written? If s
    provided a child fathered by the slave owner, was this consentual or obligatory? Were there special or customary rights to be provided for th children? In the sotry of Abraham and Sarah, Sarah provided the Egyptian slave named Hagar to provide a son for Abraham. This resulted in the bir of Ishmael. After Sarah gave birth to Isaac, Sarah demanded Abraham to k Hagar and Ishmael out of the house and cast them out to the desert. He f them bread and water, then sent them along their way. That's wild.

    What's wild is that, that far back in history, there was a person named SARA and a person named HAGAR. How is that possible?

    I often wonder was there a Lewis living next door to Abraham?

    A chad?

    A spencer?

    the names are what make it so hard to buy into...

    I suppose most of those names are modern-translations into the closest name the time to something we know so we read Sarah instead of Shara^seo or something,.. But still, i would prefer the names to be as close to what they were as possible.


    Thanks,
    Zombie Mambo

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    I believe the names are Americanized as this story is was first written in Hebrew.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Obuing on Wednesday, January 26, 2022 21:40:38
    Re: Re: Spirituality
    By: Obuing to Zombie Mambo on Sat Sep 18 2021 10:09 pm

    I believe the names are Americanized as this story is was first written in Hebrew.

    Americanized? The King James bible was published before America even existed.

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  • From sommopfle@VERT/DUNGEONB to Andeddu on Thursday, January 27, 2022 21:08:23
    I choose to have a more pagan belief

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to sommopfle on Friday, January 28, 2022 13:01:42
    Re: Re: Spirituality
    By: sommopfle to Andeddu on Thu Jan 27 2022 09:08 pm

    I choose to have a more pagan belief

    choose to quote
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