Hi everyone,

I'm starting to get my feet wet with Java-JDBC and I have a couple questions. On my current setup I am using Windows XP (SP2) and I recently downloaded the JDBC-Mysql driver (MySQL Connector/J) and I'm trying to figure out the best place to put it. The documentation says I can basically put it in any directory and add it to my classpath which would be easy enough. I'm just wondering if there is a 'standard' directory structure for it, where most people people driver files for Java. Should I find a place for it under the C:\Program Files\Java directory or is that not recommended? /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// /////// Chris Perrault ////////// ////// THE DIAMOND MINE BBS ////////// ///// Telnet bbs.dmine.net ////////// ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

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Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Christopher Perrault to All on Sun Sep 03 2006 10:17:00

...I recently downloaded the JDBC-Mysql driver (MySQL Connector/J) and
I'm trying to figure out the best place to put it...

Wow. Don't leave yourself wide open like that!

I'm just wondering if there is a 'standard' directory structure for it, where most people people driver files for Java.

Does any docu that came with it make any suggestions?
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Christopher Perrault wrote:

Hi everyone,

I'm starting to get my feet wet with Java-JDBC and I have a couple questions.
On my current setup I am using Windows XP (SP2) and I recently downloaded the JDBC-Mysql driver (MySQL Connector/J) and I'm trying to figure out the best place to put it. The documentation says I can basically put it in any directory
and add it to my classpath which would be easy enough. I'm just wondering if there is a 'standard' directory structure for it, where most people people driver files for Java. Should I find a place for it under the C:\Program Files\Java directory or is that not recommended?

Yes. c:\program files\java is not recomended. The space in the file name
will make configuring and scripts barf so bad you will need an air
sickness bag. :-) (There is a nice picture.)
Short paths, WITH NO SPACES IN THEM, will make your life much happier.
Artiken

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Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Angus McLeod to Christopher Perrault on Sun Sep 03 2006 11:47 pm

Wow. Don't leave yourself wide open like that!

Why do I have this nagging feeling someone owes me a dinner? <grin>

Does any docu that came with it make any suggestions?

So far no. To be fair it looks like it has a decent amount of documentation and I'm still going through it so it's not to say there's nothing there. I just can't seem to find it.
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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Artiken to Christopher Perrault on Tue Sep 12 2006 08:28 am

Yes. c:\program files\java is not recomended. The space in the file name will make configuring and scripts barf so bad you will need an air
sickness bag. :-) (There is a nice picture.)
Short paths, WITH NO SPACES IN THEM, will make your life much happier. Artiken

LOL, I usally try to avoid hurling during my programming quests, though it isn't always possible<grin>.

I've always disliked pathname with spaces. I guess it's the Unix snob in
me. I'm still drilling through docs to see what they recommend but my guess is it doesn't really matter so long as it's accessible to the program.

Thanks :-)

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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Christopher Perrault to Artiken on Wed Sep 13 2006 10:03 pm

I've always disliked pathname with spaces. I guess it's the Unix snob in me.

UNIX allowed spaces in filenames before Microsoft ever did... they just don't use them in a default install
/optional sofware
/usr/local programs
*shudder*


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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Deuce to Christopher Perrault on Wed Sep 13 2006 23:20:00

I've always disliked pathname with spaces. I guess it's the Unix snob in

UNIX allowed spaces in filenames before Microsoft ever did... they just don' use them in a default install
/optional sofware
/usr/local programs
*shudder*

This will make you feel better:

/music/Moloko/Do\ You\ Like\ My\ Tight\ Sweater/Where\ Is\ The\
What\ If\ The\ What\ Is\ In\ Why?.ogg

Or maybe not... :-)


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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Angus McLeod to Deuce on Thu Sep 14 2006 10:20 am

/optional sofware
/usr/local programs
*shudder*

This will make you feel better:

/music/Moloko/Do\ You\ Like\ My\ Tight\ Sweater/Where\ Is\ The\
What\ If\ The\ What\ Is\ In\ Why?.ogg

Or maybe not... :-)

It gives me the "where did she say the airsockness bag was again?" feeling.

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Christopher Perrault wrote:

Short paths, WITH NO SPACES IN THEM, will make your life much happier. Artiken

LOL, I usally try to avoid hurling during my programming quests, though it isn't always possible<grin>.

I've always disliked pathname with spaces. I guess it's the Unix snob in
me. I'm still drilling through docs to see what they recommend but my guess is
it doesn't really matter so long as it's accessible to the program.

Micro$oft is netorious for taking a well thought out standard and
messing up the implementation. For example, space delimited command line options and then allowing spaces in directory and file names.

You can of course save yourself alot of headaches in programming or configuring if you just don't use spaces in your directorys.
I have \AWeb, \ASystem, \AProg, \AGraphics, \AFiles in my root
directory. I put the appropriate applications under these dirs. The
reason for the A at the beginning of the name is so that they are always
at the top of the directory tree in listings. So my Apache install is
under \AWeb\Apache, the PHP interpreter under \AProg\PHP, MySql was a
tough one to decide where to put. So I ended up putting it under
\AProg\MySQL.

This kept my root directory clean. I don't want to hit the 512 entry
limit. The various Apps are located in smaller subdir lists which makes navagating easier. Vs putting everything under 'program files' and
having to put quotes around any dir name with a space in it in the
config files or command line prompts. And having hundreds of entries all
in one directory.

Artiken

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Artiken wrote:

Micro$oft is netorious for taking a well thought out standard and
messing up the implementation. For example, space delimited command line options and then allowing spaces in directory and file names.

you mean like this..?
something "Program Files" -x

You can of course save yourself alot of headaches in programming or configuring if you just don't use spaces in your directorys.
I have \AWeb, \ASystem, \AProg, \AGraphics, \AFiles in my root
directory. I put the appropriate applications under these dirs. The
reason for the A at the beginning of the name is so that they are always
at the top of the directory tree in listings. So my Apache install is
under \AWeb\Apache, the PHP interpreter under \AProg\PHP, MySql was a
tough one to decide where to put. So I ended up putting it under \AProg\MySQL.

LOL.. I used to use things like !keep, or !docs to keep them at the top,
now that I'm in ubuntu, where it "intelligently" sorts.. *sigh* in the
GUI, I'm like WTF...

This kept my root directory clean. I don't want to hit the 512 entry
limit. The various Apps are located in smaller subdir lists which makes navagating easier. Vs putting everything under 'program files' and
having to put quotes around any dir name with a space in it in the
config files or command line prompts. And having hundreds of entries all
in one directory.

Well, Program Files is generally supposed to be subdivided by company, of course it hasn't worked this way in practice.. even by MS...

c:\program files\microsoft*
c:\program files\common\microsoft

WTF.. why can't they just keep with their own recommendations of using the company as the common/base dir inside programfiles.. and WTF didn't they just use c:\apps, or c:\applications, or c:\programs? *sigh*

</rant>

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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Artiken to Christopher Perrault on Fri Sep 15 2006 07:09 pm

Micro$oft is netorious for taking a well thought out standard and
messing up the implementation. For example, space delimited command line options and then allowing spaces in directory and file names.

That's MICROS~1 and UNIX did that first.

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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Tracker1 to Artiken on Fri Sep 15 2006 11:58 pm

LOL.. I used to use things like !keep, or !docs to keep them at the top,
now that I'm in ubuntu, where it "intelligently" sorts.. *sigh* in the
GUI, I'm like WTF...

Yeah, XP does that too... had to dig around to figure out how to disable that one.

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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Artiken to Christopher Perrault on Fri Sep 15 2006 19:09:00

Micro$oft is netorious for taking a well thought out standard and
messing up the implementation. For example, space delimited command line options and then allowing spaces in directory and file names.

The real mistake was that they used the standard escape character as a
path separator. So you can't simply escape FILE\ NAMES\ WITH\ SPACES.

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Tracker1 wrote:

Artiken wrote:

Micro$oft is netorious for taking a well thought out standard and
messing up the implementation. For example, space delimited command line >>options and then allowing spaces in directory and file names.

you mean like this..?
something "Program Files" -x

Yea. Exactly. :-) Of course you can put the quotes. There was a phrase
we used to use for shit like this. I think it was "KLUDGE".

You can of course save yourself alot of headaches in programming or >>configuring if you just don't use spaces in your directorys.
I have \AWeb, \ASystem, \AProg, \AGraphics, \AFiles in my root
directory. I put the appropriate applications under these dirs. The
reason for the A at the beginning of the name is so that they are always >>at the top of the directory tree in listings. So my Apache install is >>under \AWeb\Apache, the PHP interpreter under \AProg\PHP, MySql was a >>tough one to decide where to put. So I ended up putting it under >>\AProg\MySQL.

LOL.. I used to use things like !keep, or !docs to keep them at the top,
now that I'm in ubuntu, where it "intelligently" sorts.. *sigh* in the
GUI, I'm like WTF...

I've noticed it even intelligently sorts in the CLI as well. "If a
million Chinese(replace with linux) can get it right.....The 10 at M$
should be able to figure it out." Naw. That is asking too much from M$. :-)

This kept my root directory clean. I don't want to hit the 512 entry >>limit. The various Apps are located in smaller subdir lists which makes >>navagating easier. Vs putting everything under 'program files' and
having to put quotes around any dir name with a space in it in the
config files or command line prompts. And having hundreds of entries all >>in one directory.

Well, Program Files is generally supposed to be subdivided by company, of course it hasn't worked this way in practice.. even by MS...

c:\program files\microsoft*
c:\program files\common\microsoft

WTF.. why can't they just keep with their own recommendations of using the company as the common/base dir inside programfiles.. and WTF didn't they just
use c:\apps, or c:\applications, or c:\programs? *sigh*

</rant>

LOL. It is not a rant if it is truthful and accurate. It is known as
normal M$ frustration venting. ha ha.
c:\spot, C:\spot\run, C:\spot\run\in\circles.lnk circles.lnk=c:\spot\run

There is a well known memory leak problem with windows products.
solution #1: we can spend time tracking down and fixing the problem.
Taking money away from our promise of new features advertising campaign.
or...
solution #2: we can convince the general populous that computers are unreliable and all have bugs so they should not be run 24/7 so the
customer should reboot them often.

Hmmmmm. I wonder which one M$ chose?

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Deuce wrote:

Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Artiken to Christopher Perrault on Fri Sep 15 2006 07:09 pm

Micro$oft is netorious for taking a well thought out standard and
messing up the implementation. For example, space delimited command line options and then allowing spaces in directory and file names.

That's MICROS~1 and UNIX did that first.

I thought the file was in MICROS~2. Not sure. It might be in MICROS~1 or
it could be in MICROS~8. Gee I wish DOS showed the full name with the
dir command. Then I would know for sure which dir the file is in. (It
does now. I remember when it didn't. ??win95??)

I agree with Unix did this first but.... They did it intelligently. In
other words, the character after the space is parsed to see if it is
another command line option or a continuation of the previous option.

I'm just guessing here. But I have noticed a regular occurance of UNIX
command line options that are proceeded with -(dash/minus). I would call
this more - delimited vs space delimited. Thus avoiding the whole "Is it another option or is it a continuation of the previous command?" problem.

I can just imagine how BG's mind exploded when faced with the decision
to use extensions or read the first few bytes of the actual file to see
what it really is.

Artiken

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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Artiken to Christopher Perrault on Fri Sep 15 2006 19:09:00

Micro$oft is netorious for taking a well thought out standard and
messing up the implementation. For example, space delimited command line options and then allowing spaces in directory and file names.

The real mistake was that they used the standard escape character as a
path separator. So you can't simply escape FILE\ NAMES\ WITH\ SPACES.

That makes sense. I can just hear the brain (and I use that term
loosely) storming session.

uhh ok.
What do we use for our path separator?
uhh I know. Lets use backslash.
OK? Why?
Everyone else is using the slash key, we want ours to be different then
we can shout "innovation". Besides if we use find/replace with edit.com
we can easily modify the source code that I found, in a dumpster
somewhere, don't ask, and the modification should take minutes instead
of hundreds of real man hours.
Sounds good. Use it.
What about the slash key?
Oh. I guess we can use it to denote a command line option.
Sounds good. What do we use for the escape key?
I've never needed to escape anything, besides the space delimiting will
handle the parsing of options.
Sounds good. What about spaces in file names?
OH. The FAT system doesn't allow spaces in the file name. Besides with
8.3 your pretty limited on the number of characters you can use. Who
would want to waste a position with a space?


"640k is more memory than anyone will every need." - Bill Gates.

Q: What kind of programs do you store on a FAT system?
A: Bloated code.

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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Artiken to Tracker1 on Sun Sep 17 2006 03:40 am

you mean like this..?

something "Program Files" -x

Yea. Exactly. :-) Of course you can put the quotes. There was a phrase
we used to use for shit like this. I think it was "KLUDGE".

Hrm... that works in UNIX too...
mplayer "Every Time It Rains.mp3" -vo x11


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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Artiken to Deuce on Sun Sep 17 2006 03:57 am

I agree with Unix did this first but.... They did it intelligently. In
other words, the character after the space is parsed to see if it is
another command line option or a continuation of the previous option.

That turns out to not be the case... the spaces aren't even passed to the program.

I'm just guessing here. But I have noticed a regular occurance of UNIX command line options that are proceeded with -(dash/minus). I would call this more - delimited vs space delimited. Thus avoiding the whole "Is it another option or is it a continuation of the previous command?" problem.

On on Microsoft stuff, options are proceeded with a / (slash). In fact, the space isn't even required for classical DOS stuff (not sure if this still holds or not) "dir/w" and "dir /w" were/are the same thing.

I can just imagine how BG's mind exploded when faced with the decision
to use extensions or read the first few bytes of the actual file to see
what it really is.

Take a gander at /usr/share/misc/magic and read the comments.

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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Artiken to Angus McLeod on Sun Sep 17 2006 04:17 am

What do we use for our path separator?
uhh I know. Lets use backslash.
OK? Why?

Because, before we added the concept of "directories" we hard-coded the slash as a parameter seperator. The backslash is visually similar to a slash, so people moving from our Xenix product will still be comfortable with it. In fact, let's allow the slash to be used TOO since a lot of existing code uses that. However, for command-line parsing, the slash will have to stay as an option introducer 'cause that's what our existing customers are used to.

Sounds good. Use it.
What about the slash key?

We already use it for an option seperator just like CP/M so we could stay compatible with existing practices on these computers.

Sounds good. What do we use for the escape key?

It's not legal to use a filename with anything that would require escaping, so we don't need one.

Sounds good. What about spaces in file names?
OH. The FAT system doesn't allow spaces in the file name. Besides with
8.3 your pretty limited on the number of characters you can use. Who
would want to waste a position with a space?

Q: If you go out and buy a copy of Windows XP and a copy of RedHat Linux, which takes up more space on the media?
A: RedHat Linux.

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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Deuce to Artiken on Sun Sep 17 2006 05:46 pm

Hrm... that works in UNIX too...
mplayer "Every Time It Rains.mp3" -vo x11

Try this one:

mplayer -vo x11 -cache 256 http://brazi.net:8000

:)


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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Artiken to Deuce on Sun Sep 17 2006 03:57:00

I'm just guessing here. But I have noticed a regular occurance of UNIX command line options that are proceeded with -(dash/minus). I would call this more - delimited vs space delimited. Thus avoiding the whole "Is it another option or is it a continuation of the previous command?" problem.

That's not quite right. The - usually indicates some sort of switch
argument like DOS's / character. For instance, the DOS 'dir' command
accepts an 'S' switch that requests recursive sub-directories be listed.
The UNIX 'ls' command has an 'R' switch (recursive) that does the same
thing. So the DOS command would be

DIR /R

and the UNIX version would be

ls -R

Note that UNIX sometimes also supports LONG switches, so you also have the option to do this:

ls --recursive

in which a double-dash is the switch indicator. Since -R and --recursive
mean the same thing, it's a matter of style. (Assuming I know both, I
tend to use short/standard switches if typing the command directly, or if space is at premium. But if writing a script and the switch is at all
obscure I'll use long/extended switches for their self-documenting properties.)

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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Belly to Deuce on Sun Sep 17 2006 10:36 pm

Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Deuce to Artiken on Sun Sep 17 2006 05:46 pm

Hrm... that works in UNIX too... mplayer "Every Time It Rains.mp3"
-vo x11

Try this one:

mplayer -vo x11 -cache 256 http://brazi.net:8000

is that some gay shoutcast station?

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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Belly to Deuce on Sun Sep 17 2006 09:36 pm

Hrm... that works in UNIX too...
mplayer "Every Time It Rains.mp3" -vo x11

Try this one:

mplayer -vo x11 -cache 256 http://brazi.net:8000

:)

Works, but the -vo option is pretty silly.

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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Deuce to Christopher Perrault on Thu Sep 14 2006 12:20 am

UNIX allowed spaces in filenames before Microsoft ever did... they just don' use them in a default install
/optional sofware
/usr/local programs
*shudder*

Wow, that' s news to me. I can't recall ever having seen it done, so I just assumed it couldn't be. I remember having to access Dos/Windows directories from my Linux partition using question marks in place of the spaces to do my cd's and ls'. At work I use HP-UX but haven't been in the situation where I need to access such pathnames fortunately.

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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Angus McLeod to Deuce on Thu Sep 14 2006 11:20 am

This will make you feel better:

/music/Moloko/Do\ You\ Like\ My\ Tight\ Sweater/Where\ Is\ The\
What\ If\ The\ What\ Is\ In\ Why?.ogg

Or maybe not... :-)

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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Belly to Deuce on Sun Sep 17 2006 21:36:00

Try this one:

mplayer -vo x11 -cache 256 http://brazi.net:8000

Don't think it's working here.

All I get is a horrible noise! ;-)

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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Christopher Perrault to Angus McLeod on Sun Sep 17 2006 23:35:00

This will make you feel better:

/music/Moloko/Do\ You\ Like\ My\ Tight\ Sweater/Where\ Is\ The\
What\ If\ The\ What\ Is\ In\ Why?.ogg

Or maybe not... :-)

That is awfull...<grin>

Well, if you prefer:

"/music/Moloko/Do You Like My Tight Sweater/Where Is The What If
The What Is In Why?.ogg"

If you use the autocompletion feature on 'bash' you will get "quoted
names" of escaped\ names depending on how you start the filename, so it's
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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Christopher Perrault to Deuce on Sun Sep 17 2006 11:34 pm

UNIX allowed spaces in filenames before Microsoft ever did... they just don' use them in a default install

Wow, that' s news to me. I can't recall ever having seen it done, so I
just assumed it couldn't be. I remember having to access Dos/Windows directories from my Linux partition using question marks in place of the spaces to do my cd's and ls'. At work I use HP-UX but haven't been in the situation where I need to access such pathnames fortunately.

People who use a command line have a justifiable distain for spaces in filenames. UNIX folks are just more likely to use a command-line is all so you see it there less often (or did... desktop *nix systems quite often have spaces in filenames)

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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Angus McLeod to Belly on Mon Sep 18 2006 12:44 am

mplayer -vo x11 -cache 256 http://brazi.net:8000

Don't think it's working here.

All I get is a horrible noise! ;-)

yeah, me too! presidents of the united states..didnt know that group was
still around!

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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Jas Hud to Belly on Mon Sep 18 2006 12:09 am

mplayer -vo x11 -cache 256 http://brazi.net:8000

is that some good shoutcast station?

Yes.


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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Deuce to Belly on Mon Sep 18 2006 01:04 am

mplayer -vo x11 -cache 256 http://brazi.net:8000

Works, but the -vo option is pretty silly.

You used it in your example, thought you needed it.


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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Angus McLeod to Belly on Mon Sep 18 2006 12:44 am

Don't think it's working here.

All I get is a horrible noise! ;-)

It's bound to be more entertaining than this:

Strange: With 10,292 tracks available from 800 albums
by 401 artists, I'm currently not listening to anything!


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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Belly to Deuce on Tue Sep 19 2006 12:44 pm

mplayer -vo x11 -cache 256 http://brazi.net:8000

Works, but the -vo option is pretty silly.

You used it in your example, thought you needed it.

Well hrm... lets pretend I meant -ao esd then.

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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Belly to Angus McLeod on Tue Sep 19 2006 12:46:00

Don't think it's working here.

All I get is a horrible noise! ;-)

It's bound to be more entertaining than this:

Strange: With 10,292 tracks available from 800 albums
by 401 artists, I'm currently not listening to anything!

Actually, at the time, I was listening to the horrible noise, but judt not with XMMS...

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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Belly to Jas Hud on Tue Sep 19 2006 01:43 pm

By: Jas Hud to Belly on Mon Sep 18 2006 12:09 am

mplayer -vo x11 -cache 256 http://brazi.net:8000

is that some piece of shit shoutcast station?

Yes.

ah, thought so.

sounds like something college kids wouldnt even like.

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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Deuce to Belly on Tue Sep 19 2006 03:51 pm

You used it in your example, thought you needed it.

Well hrm... lets pretend I meant -ao esd then.

I've never had the need to use that option. Same goes for the -ass option. :)



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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Angus McLeod to Belly on Tue Sep 19 2006 11:54 pm

Actually, at the time, I was listening to the horrible noise, but judt not with XMMS...

I'll see your insult, and raise you a question...

What song, specifically, prompted it?


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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Jas Hud to Belly on Thu Sep 21 2006 08:46 pm

sounds like something college kids wouldnt even like.

Good thing my target audience is not college kids, then.


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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Belly to Jas Hud on Fri Sep 22 2006 01:21 am

Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Jas Hud to Belly on Thu Sep 21 2006 08:46 pm

sounds like something college kids wouldnt even like.

Good thing my target audience is not college kids, then.

then what is? do you change formats, or is it the same thing.

when i was on there was some weird stuff.

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Deuce wrote:

LOL.. I used to use things like !keep, or !docs to keep them at the top,
now that I'm in ubuntu, where it "intelligently" sorts.. *sigh* in the
GUI, I'm like WTF...

Yeah, XP does that too... had to dig around to figure out how to disable that one.

Yeah, even thunderbird (linux) seems to do that with my imap folders...
know of a way to disable that "feature" in gnome/nautilus?

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Artiken wrote:

There is a well known memory leak problem with windows products.

A windows program or driver from another company, or a program by MS written for windows?

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Angus McLeod wrote:

If you use the autocompletion feature on 'bash' you will get "quoted
names" of escaped\ names depending on how you start the filename, so it's
up to you.

I tend to set the same feature in 2k/xp ... comes in handy.

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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Belly to Angus McLeod on Fri Sep 22 2006 00:20:00

Actually, at the time, I was listening to the horrible noise, but judt no with XMMS...

I'll see your insult, and raise you a question...

What song, specifically, prompted it?

Actually, after this much time, I can't remember.

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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Tracker1 to Deuce on Fri Sep 22 2006 08:45 pm

LOL.. I used to use things like !keep, or !docs to keep them at the top, >> now that I'm in ubuntu, where it "intelligently" sorts.. *sigh* in the
GUI, I'm like WTF...

Yeah, XP does that too... had to dig around to figure out how to disable that one.

Yeah, even thunderbird (linux) seems to do that with my imap folders...
know of a way to disable that "feature" in gnome/nautilus?

Nope. But since it's GNOME, I assume you need to load some cryptic XML browser tool which no documentation and find the one little toggle amongst thousantds and change it.

Google will probobly have 99 results which don't work and one that does.

If you ask on a GNOME mailing list, you'll be flamed for wanting unfriendly sorting... which breaks some rule of GUIs that GNOME pretends to follow but actually doesn't.

Fired up nautilus just to see if there's a simple preference for it... doesn't appear to be so, and the first four things listed in my home directory (in order) are:

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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Jas Hud to Belly on Fri Sep 22 2006 10:53 pm

Good thing my target audience is not college kids, then.

then what is? do you change formats, or is it the same thing.

The format changes every week or so... or more precisely, whenever I get tired of it.

when i was on there was some weird stuff.

Weird in what way? I play more varied stuff than you will hear on commercial radio, although I like Top-40-style music also.


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Re: Re: Java/JDBC Question
By: Deuce to Christopher Perrault on Mon Sep 18 2006 12:15 pm

People who use a command line have a justifiable distain for spaces in filenames. UNIX folks are just more likely to use a command-line is all so see it there less often (or did... desktop *nix systems quite often have spa in filenames)

That makes sense. I guess the only reason I don't see them on Unix desktops is because mine is the only one I ever see. :-/

Now I'm gonna be looking for that at work just to see. Since all the Unix is done by command line anyway, I doubt I'll see any with spaces.
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