Okay, I want to hear what you guys think is the best Linux flavor any why. I have been using Gentoo Linux now for 3 years. I started with Red Hat. After I found Gentoo I use the Red Hat install Cd's as coasters. Gentooo is easy to get used to if you read the wiki's on the net - they cover everything.
I have about every function a server could do. If you get passed the install.
I have no books. I learned all from the net. Would also would like to hear some tips and tricks. Here is one i like to do. make a dir called help and a file called help.comm. If your like me and have no books. have you ever had that command in the tip of your tounge but can't rememeber? I like to add the command and short decrption to my help fike. Anyway.. lame but works.

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Re: Best OS
By: General Mdk to All on Mon Jun 25 2007 07:26 pm

Okay, I want to hear what you guys think is the best Linux flavor any

Gentoo for two reasons.

1) It's quite close to FreeBSD.
2) It hasn't pissed me off in and of itself as of yet.

Every other distro I've tried has had multiple things that flat out pissed me off.

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Deuce wrote:

Okay, I want to hear what you guys think is the best Linux flavor any

Gentoo for two reasons.

1) It's quite close to FreeBSD.
2) It hasn't pissed me off in and of itself as of yet.

Every other distro I've tried has had multiple things that flat out pissed me off.

I can understand that.. kind of surprised you didn't like slackware though,
not sure if you've tried it... it doesn't have a ports-like system afaik though, so that may be a big turnoff...

I've only ever used gentoo for one thing.. and that was a dedicated database server (mysql, sigh, ugh)...

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Re: Best OS
By: General Mdk to All on Mon Jun 25 2007 19:26:00

Okay, I want to hear what you guys think is the best Linux flavor any wh I have been using Gentoo Linux now for 3 years. I started with Red Hat.

Do I have to pick one? I love Gentoo. I mostly use Linux on non-intel older hardware and I find a compiled from souce install of Gentoo on these machines (PPC, Alpha, Sun) to be faster than a binary distro.

Despite the "political" ramifications of Novell's deal with MS, I prefer OpenSuSE as my desktop distro. The Yast admin tool is excellent. I don't think Fedora can compete with them in that regard.

At work my main workstation runs Debian. I've always had a soft spot for Debian as I see them as the most pure non-commercial distro. But best of all for me is that my workstation is not connected to the net but the latest Debian is on 3 DVD's so I still have access to a ton of software.

I started out on FreeBSD (not Linux I know) and still consider it one of the best choices for a console-only server. It is very stable.

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Re: Best OS
By: General Mdk to All on Mon Jun 25 2007 07:26 pm

Okay, I want to hear what you guys think is the best Linux flavor any wh I have been using Gentoo Linux now for 3 years. I started with Red Hat.

Well, you're already using my favorite flavor of Linux. :D I love Gentoo. Portage is wonderful. I can trim down a system (useflags) so that I don't get support for something compiled I'll never use and all the damn dependenices. And yet if I change my mind down the road I can. ;) The downside is compile times, but the upside is being able to tailor the system complete to my desire.


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Re: Best OS
By: Deuce to General Mdk on Mon Jun 25 2007 11:35 pm

Every other distro I've tried has had multiple things that flat out pissed m off.

Yeah ditto on that. I should have added that at the end of my previous post. I learned Linux on Redhat 5.x. I started experimenting with other distros around the time Redhat hit 8.0. I used slack after Redhat went "Fedora" on everyone. Then I tried Gentoo! And haven't looked back since in the Linux world...


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Re: Re: Best OS
By: Tracker1 to Deuce on Tue Jun 26 2007 01:00 am

I can understand that.. kind of surprised you didn't like slackware though, not sure if you've tried it... it doesn't have a ports-like system afaik though, so that may be a big turnoff...

Yeah, slackware was my leading distro until gentoo. It didn't piss me off all that much very often.

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Deuce wrote:

I can understand that.. kind of surprised you didn't like slackware though, >> not sure if you've tried it... it doesn't have a ports-like system afaik
though, so that may be a big turnoff...

Yeah, slackware was my leading distro until gentoo. It didn't piss me off all
that much very often.

Yeah, gentoo is pretty neat.. I'm more fond of something a little more end user oriented, like suse and ubuntu for myself... just a personal preference I guess.. but then again, other than the activation crap, and the politics of microsoft, I actually like windows.. so to each their own.

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Re: Re: Best OS
By: Tracker1 to Deuce on Fri Jun 29 2007 04:54 pm

Yeah, gentoo is pretty neat.. I'm more fond of something a little more end user oriented, like suse and ubuntu for myself... just a personal
preference I guess.. but then again, other than the activation crap, and
the politics of microsoft, I actually like windows.. so to each their own.

The luser oriented ones invariably piss me off. I am a user. Orient on me.

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Re: Best OS
By: General Mdk to All on Mon Jun 25 2007 08:26 pm

Okay, I want to hear what you guys think is the best Linux flavor any wh I have been using Gentoo Linux now for 3 years. I started with Red Hat. After I found Gentoo I use the Red Hat install Cd's as coasters. Gentooo is easy to get used to if you read the wiki's on the net - they cover everythin I have about every function a server could do. If you get passed the instal I have no books. I learned all from the net. Would also would like to hear some tips and tricks. Here is one i like to do. make a dir called help and file called help.comm. If your like me and have no books. have you ever ha that command in the tip of your tounge but can't rememeber? I like to add t command and short decrption to my help fike. Anyway.. lame but works.

My vote is on Ubuntu, or Kubuntu rather since I prefer KDE over Gnome.

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General Mdk wrote to All <=-

Okay, I want to hear what you guys think is the best Linux flavor
any why. I have been using Gentoo Linux now for 3 years. I started

Hmmm, intersting question, personally as a very linux newbie, I've tried Fecora core 7, Mantavia free linux, Slackware and even tried to install Dream Liux but for me Ubuntu is great. It's Debian based so there are tons of stuff out there for it. Now if I can only get a very nice ansi termial program I'd be in hog heaven.

I'm currently using Hyperterm personal edition... yes a windows app running under Crossover as my terminal program but Multimail , native linux version, as my mail reader. :)



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Re: Re: Best OS
By: The Curmudgeon to General Mdk on Thu Jul 12 2007 11:12 pm

Hmmm, intersting question, personally as a very linux newbie, I've tried Fecora core 7, Mantavia free linux, Slackware and even tried to install Drea Liux but for me Ubuntu is great. It's Debian based so there are tons of stu out there for it. Now if I can only get a very nice ansi termial program I'd in hog heaven.

I'm currently using Hyperterm personal edition... yes a windows app running under Crossover as my terminal program but Multimail , native linux version, my mail reader. :)

Have you tried SyncTERM (http://syncterm.bbsdev.net)?

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Digital Man wrote to The Curmudgeon <=-

> I'm currently using Hyperterm personal edition... yes a windows app running

under Crossover as my terminal program but Multimail , native linux version, my mail reader. :)

Have you tried SyncTERM (http://syncterm.bbsdev.net)?

:) I've downloaded it but I am , unfortunately, a newbie when it comes to linus. I have not yet figured out how exactly to run the dang thing and I can't find any instructions for it anywhere. <sigh>


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Re: Re: Best OS
By: The Curmudgeon to Digital Man on Fri Jul 13 2007 04:17 pm

Digital Man wrote to The Curmudgeon <=-

> I'm currently using Hyperterm personal edition... yes a windows app runn

under Crossover as my terminal program but Multimail , native linux versi my mail reader. :)

Have you tried SyncTERM (http://syncterm.bbsdev.net)?

:) I've downloaded it but I am , unfortunately, a newbie when it comes to linus. I have not yet figured out how exactly to run the dang thing and I can't find any instructions for it anywhere. <sigh>

Did you try just typing './syncterm' ?

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Re: Re: Best OS
By: Digital Man to The Curmudgeon on Fri Jul 13 2007 02:47 pm

Did you try just typing './syncterm' ?

Needs to be extracted first...
gunzip syncterm.gz
./syncterm

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Digital Man wrote to The Curmudgeon <=-

:) I've downloaded it but I am , unfortunately, a newbie when it comes to linus. I have not yet figured out how exactly to run the dang thing and I can't find any instructions for it anywhere. <sigh>

Did you try just typing './syncterm' ?

DuH!!! and changing to the correct directory helped as well. Thanks, I now am a happy camper... err at least for a little while. :)

Second question though, I have long been a fan of Virtuosa for Windows, with it's ability to rip, play and burn music to cdrom coverting my mp3 files to WAV files on the fly and normalizing volume at the same time. Is there anything like that out there for linux without running a dozen different programs to do this?

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Tracker1 wrote to Deuce <=-

Tr> Yeah, gentoo is pretty neat.. I'm more fond of something a little more

end user oriented, like suse and ubuntu for myself... just a personal preference I guess.. but then again, other than the activation crap,
and the politics of microsoft, I actually like windows.. so to each
their own.

You know, I had been wanting to get into a linux box to play around with and get reaquainted with a unix type os. Ubantu was my final choice because it's so easy to set up for a newbie and you can learn later to do your thing from the shell. Just my two cents and for what it's worth, my other machine is a dual core AMD running windows Vista which I also like. :)


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Deuce wrote to Digital Man <=-

Did you try just typing './syncterm' ?

Needs to be extracted first...
gunzip syncterm.gz

That much I did have figured out... I was just typing in syncterm without the ./ in front of it. I didn't know about that syntax thingy. :)

./syncterm

it works now.. obviously. :)


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Re: Re: Best OS
By: The Curmudgeon to Deuce on Sat Jul 14 2007 12:27 pm

Deuce wrote to Digital Man <=-

Did you try just typing './syncterm' ?

Needs to be extracted first...
gunzip syncterm.gz

That much I did have figured out... I was just typing in syncterm without t ./ in front of it. I didn't know about that syntax thingy. :)

By default, most Unix user profiles do not have '.' in the executable search path.

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Digital Man wrote to The Curmudgeon <=-

That much I did have figured out... I was just typing in syncterm without t ./ in front of it. I didn't know about that syntax thingy. :)

By default, most Unix user profiles do not have '.' in the executable search path.

Ok, so it behooves me to ask, why is it necessary to start this program in this manner.?

Actually I just wrote a shell script and now just point and click, much easier. :)


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Re: Re: Best OS
By: The Curmudgeon to Digital Man on Sun Jul 15 2007 07:07 am

Digital Man wrote to The Curmudgeon <=-

That much I did have figured out... I was just typing in syncterm withou ./ in front of it. I didn't know about that syntax thingy. :)

By default, most Unix user profiles do not have '.' in the executable search path.

Ok, so it behooves me to ask, why is it necessary to start this program in this manner.?

Because if '.' (the current directory) isn't in the exectuble search path than you must either move the executable (in this case, syncterm) into a directory that *is* in your search path or specify the path (full or relative) to the executable file. './prognam' says to the shell: execute the file 'progname' which is located in the current directory.

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Re: Best OS
By: Ibanez to General Mdk on Tue Jun 26 2007 09:41 am

Re: Best OS
By: General Mdk to All on Mon Jun 25 2007 07:26 pm

Okay, I want to hear what you guys think is the best Linux flavor any I have been using Gentoo Linux now for 3 years. I started with Red Hat.

Well, you're already using my favorite flavor of Linux. :D I love Gentoo. Portage is wonderful. I can trim down a system (useflags) so that I don't ge support for something compiled I'll never use and all the damn dependenices. And yet if I change my mind down the road I can. ;) The downside is compile times, but the upside is being able to tailor the system complete to my desi

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I also use gentoo.. have used it for a long time.. my make.conf is insane
with USE flags a mile long.. but it's great cuz everyting that gets compiled actually WORKS!

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Okay, I want to hear what you guys think is the best Linux flavor any wh
I have been using Gentoo Linux now for 3 years. I started with Red Hat.

Also running Gentoo, have been for maybe 2 years now (whenever Novell
bought SuSe) Prior to Gentoo, SuSe (the servers at work now run the Novell Linux 9 flavor, they ran Redhat before the Novell deal), ran Mandrake before SuSe, Redhat before Mandrake.

Looked at Slackware when it first came out back in the dialup days, keep a Knoppix disk around for system troubleshooting (mainly cause I'm too lazy to setup a thumb drive with it) and have played with Ubuntu and Kubuntu.

I like Gentoo because I like fiddling with my system and being able to strip out as much crap as I can from it. If I know certain USE flags are only of value to add support to a package for some other package I have no intention of ever installing why include that support when I build it?

As to your question, guess that depends on what the system will be used for and who will be using it. I wouldn't put someone with no programming experience or prior *nix experience on a Gentoo box unless I knew they were very technically oriented. Likewise I wouldn't expect a hardcore *nix geek
to be happy with one of the Lindows releases (which was why I scrapped Mandrake, it was turning into too much of a "we know how you should use your OS better than you do" systems, got enough of that crap).

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Have you tried SyncTERM (http://syncterm.bbsdev.net)?

I finally got motivated enough to grab a copy for here at work when I want to check on the system. All the flakey ANSI crap with the games and whatnot
that I was seeing with PuTTY is gone. Soon as I get home I'll be grabbing a copy for there too.

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