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    From Corey@VERT/TSGC to Ibanez on Sunday, June 24, 2007 13:44:00
    Re: !0 Linux Shell tricks
    By: Ibanez to Corey on Sun Jun 24 2007 04:30 pm

    Re: !0 Linux Shell tricks
    By: Ibanez to Corey on Sun Jun 24 2007 04:27 pm

    NetBSD with a Mach kernel if I remember right. And yes it's called Darwin had Darwin running on a Beige G3 300 once upon a time just to place with

    *insert foot in mouth*

    I should have looked that up before I said it... it's based on FreeBSD and Mach.

    :/


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    ha!

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  • From Corey@VERT/TSGC to Deuce on Sunday, June 24, 2007 13:45:00
    Re: !0 Linux Shell tricks
    By: Deuce to Angus McLeod on Sun Jun 24 2007 01:09 pm

    Re: !0 Linux Shell tricks
    By: Angus McLeod to Ibanez on Sun Jun 24 2007 10:28 am

    What is the colon (":") for? If I want an enpty file I just do

    > filename.ext

    without a colon.

    Portability. Null commands are invalid in csh. : is a shell builtin which does nothing and succeeds.


    the colon processes solid waste.

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  • From Ibanez@VERT/BITBUCKT to Corey on Sunday, June 24, 2007 20:47:00
    Re: !0 Linux Shell tricks
    By: Corey to Deuce on Sun Jun 24 2007 01:45 pm

    the colon processes solid waste.

    I figured I'd see a response like that... LOL



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  • From Angus McLeod@VERT/ANJO to Deuce on Monday, June 25, 2007 00:56:00
    Re: !0 Linux Shell tricks
    By: Deuce to Angus McLeod on Sun Jun 24 2007 13:09:00

    What is the colon (":") for? If I want an enpty file I just do

    > filename.ext

    without a colon.

    Portability. Null commands are invalid in csh.

    Do people actually use csh?

    : is a shell builtin which does nothing and succeeds.

    You learn something every day.

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  • From Angus McLeod@VERT/ANJO to Ibanez on Monday, June 25, 2007 00:56:00
    Re: !0 Linux Shell tricks
    By: Ibanez to Corey on Sun Jun 24 2007 20:47:00

    the colon processes solid waste.

    I figured I'd see a response like that... LOL

    Me too -- and I was right about who would post it, too!

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  • From Deuce@VERT/SYNCNIX to Angus McLeod on Monday, June 25, 2007 00:16:00
    Re: !0 Linux Shell tricks
    By: Angus McLeod to Deuce on Mon Jun 25 2007 12:56 am

    Portability. Null commands are invalid in csh.

    Do people actually use csh?

    I use tcsh. It has features my fingers require that bash doesn't have. I rarely use it for scripting though.

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  • From Ibanez@VERT/BITBUCKT to Angus McLeod on Monday, June 25, 2007 22:38:00
    Re: !0 Linux Shell tricks
    By: Angus McLeod to Deuce on Mon Jun 25 2007 12:56 am

    Re: !0 Linux Shell tricks
    By: Deuce to Angus McLeod on Sun Jun 24 2007 13:09:00

    What is the colon (":") for? If I want an enpty file I just do

    > filename.ext

    without a colon.

    Portability. Null commands are invalid in csh.

    Do people actually use csh?

    I know I don't. OS X used to ship with tcsh as the default shell. I'd have to boot up the old Mac to see if Panther had tcsh as the default. Tiger (which I'm running right now) has bash as the default shell. Which is nice, because its the default on nearly all Linux distros (and therefore I've used it a lot).


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  • From Deuce@VERT/SYNCNIX to Ibanez on Thursday, June 28, 2007 23:03:00
    Re: !0 Linux Shell tricks
    By: Ibanez to Angus McLeod on Mon Jun 25 2007 10:38 pm

    I know I don't. OS X used to ship with tcsh as the default shell. I'd have to boot up the old Mac to see if Panther had tcsh as the default. Tiger (which I'm running right now) has bash as the default shell. Which is nice, because its the default on nearly all Linux distros (and therefore I've
    used it a lot).

    Was it tcsh as the default for all users or just for root? iirc, tcsh is only the default shell for root on FreeBSD.

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  • From Ibanez@VERT/BITBUCKT to Deuce on Saturday, June 30, 2007 14:52:00
    Re: !0 Linux Shell tricks
    By: Deuce to Ibanez on Thu Jun 28 2007 11:03 pm

    Re: !0 Linux Shell tricks
    By: Ibanez to Angus McLeod on Mon Jun 25 2007 10:38 pm

    I know I don't. OS X used to ship with tcsh as the default shell. I'd hav to boot up the old Mac to see if Panther had tcsh as the default. Tiger (which I'm running right now) has bash as the default shell. Which is nic because its the default on nearly all Linux distros (and therefore I've used it a lot).

    Was it tcsh as the default for all users or just for root? iirc, tcsh is on the default shell for root on FreeBSD.

    I think up through Panther tcsh was default for everyone. Now it seems that bash is the default shell.


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  • From Quicksilver@VERT/COSMELON to Ibanez on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 22:41:00

    Do people actually use csh?
    ...
    the default on nearly all Linux distros (and therefore I've used it a lot).

    We have some SERIOUS old *nixsters here at work that are die hard csh users. Comes from years of working with HP-UX which didn't have bash for the longest time. We had to install it ourselves on the servers we used a few years back before they started migrating to Intel/Linux servers.

    I've used it, don't really have any comments on it other than (as you said) bash is the default on most Linux distros so it is the shell I started using and am therfore the most comfortable with.

    I've seen some script tricks that are easier (if not completely dependant) on using some other shell than bash but unless I have to use another shell I don't.

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