• Re: Netscape fades to bl

    From SARPEK@VERT/JOESBBS to 8MYSTICONE on Sunday, March 30, 2008 11:19:00
    Quoting Mysticone to Ralph Smole <=-

    .h.bRe.n.b: .h.cNetscape fades to black
    .bBy.n.b: .h.cRalph Smole .bto .cFinnigann .bon .cWed Jan 02 2008
    07:50 pm.n
    Netscape doesn't read as dead. It's morphed into Mozilla/Firefox.

    Yep. But some people gotta blame Microsoft for every fucking thing!

    Netscape the company is dead, and Netscape the product is as well.
    While its code lives on in Mozilla/Firefox, Microsoft was pretty much responsible for illegally using their monopoly status to crush it.

    I tried Netscape and I didn't like it at all. It took forever to load, it would crash after just a few minutes of use. And that was the free copy.
    I never tried the pay for copy, it wasn't worth paying for if the free copy wouldn't work. I used MS IE because it was free from the get go. I also
    used a couple other browsers, but always ended up with MS IE. It was free,
    it worked.

    ... I call things as I see them; If I didn't see them, I make them up!
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  • From SARPEK@VERT/JOESBBS to 3MYSTICONE on Sunday, March 30, 2008 11:19:00
    Quoting Mysticone to Finnigann <=-

    Microsoft isn't blameless in this. They DID give it away when they were loosing the market shares to Netscape.

    From what I understand, it's not so much that they "gave it away" as
    it was that they made it next to impossible to remove it. While
    Netscape had to actively seek contracts with manufacturers to get their browser installed on new machines, Microsoft automatically got to put
    it there. Since the application and operating system markets are
    separate markets, they unfairly leveraged their monopoly in one market
    to strengthen another. It's illegal, and they were found guilty of the crime. However, once Bush was elected, the DOJ largely became uninterested in doing anything further and pretty much just let the
    stuff die.
    The result is that the web is a broken mess of code for IE and then
    all other browsers, and developers constantly have to work around the inferiority of IE because it's installed on all Windows machines by default.
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    As we all complain about one program, that runs on are Microsoft Windows Machines? Not to say you guys are funning, but why the long faces all of a sudden? Oh well, OS/2, Linux, etc... they fade into history because every
    one wants there Windows Computer...

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  • From SARPEK@VERT/JOESBBS to 8MYSTICONE on Sunday, March 30, 2008 11:19:00
    Quoting Mysticone to Digital Man <=-

    I'm not really sure why removal of IE was such an issue anyway. You could always install other browsers and make them your default browser and never use IE for the web at all (even though it is still installed). <shrug>

    The point was that Netscape could *never* be the only browser on a machine, and could never negotiate contracts to that effect. Microsoft would always have their browser on the system and, in some cases,
    actually forbid computer companies from including rival software
    alongside it.

    There was an order to MS, they had to include the other guys after one point
    I think it was with Win98. If you look after the install, it would have 4 other browsers there. Never would you see Netscape.


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