Hi Calcmandan,
In a message to Poindexter Fortran you wrote:

For too long, I thought of the echoes as (relatively) private,
but having a bot scrape entire othernets ruins the sense of
intimacy (for lack of a better word) of the echoes.

I couldn't agree with you more. This thread marks the first I've heard
of this happening and it's boggling my mind that anyone finds value in such a small readership to scrape 'othernets' as you call it.

There *can* be value in one of those "scrape" results:

https://www.ipingthereforeiam.com/bbs/msgs/

You can check out an echo quickly. You can search for a string in a message and even follow a thread.

I love the intimacy of the echo mail system.

Once I was of the same opinion. But being able to find a message that may have been posted a number of months or even years ago can be useful.

But I don't think this INTERNET echo is publicly archived/scraped anywhere.


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August

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August Abolins wrote to Calcmandan <=-

You can check out an echo quickly. You can search for a string in a message and even follow a thread.

My preference is to access echoes the old fashioned way with a black screen
and attached to a bbs.

Once I was of the same opinion. But being able to find a message that
may have been posted a number of months or even years ago can be
useful.

But I don't think this INTERNET echo is publicly archived/scraped anywhere.

I figured they all were. Isn't it easy to just go back in time on the BBS?

I suppose one has to worry about hard drive failures, like the one that
occured on the board i connect to daily.

I'm working on getting my own board up and running at the moment. i may
run two. One's going to be home base for a new door game I'm designing.



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Re: Re: lovin' unauthenticat
By: calcmandan to August Abolins on Wed Apr 22 2020 01:02:00

I figured they all were. Isn't it easy to just go back in time on the BBS?

The thing is, most BBS SysOps have their echoes set to only hold either X number of messages per echo, or purge messages that are past a certain date. -+-

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Hello calcmandan!

** On Wednesday 22.04.20 - 04:02, calcmandan wrote to August Abolins:

August Abolins wrote to Calcmandan <=-

You can check out an echo quickly. You can search for a string in a
message and even follow a thread.

My preference is to access echoes the old fashioned way with a black screen and attached to a bbs.

Well.. I wouldn't want to use the ipingthereforeiam version on a regular basis, (you can't write to it), but it serves as a fine way to track down
a message quickly.

But I don't think this INTERNET echo is publicly archived/scraped
anywhere.

I figured they all were. Isn't it easy to just go back in time on the BBS?

I suppose one has to worry about hard drive failures, like the one that occured on the board i connect to daily.

Different boards/sysops set their own limits to how many messages they
wish to retain in any particular echo. Echomail is considered ephemeral,
I guess. But I appreciate when a sysop maintains a few hundred messages
per echo no matter how far back in time. It is helpful to be able to read the oldest messages to get a more complete sense of the topics that an
echo was able to keep.

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