• Any other hobbies?

    From Carol Shenkenberger@VERT/SHENKS to All on Friday, December 28, 2007 00:54:00
    Just wondering.

    I also like to cook and tend to make too much so gift excess to neighbors.
    I'm a good cook so they appreciate it <g>.
    xxcarol

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  • From Mr. Microchip@VERT to Carol Shenkenberger on Friday, December 28, 2007 08:50:07
    Re: Any other hobbies?
    By: Carol Shenkenberger to All on Fri Dec 28 2007 12:54 am

    Carol -

    Count me in on the cooking club! I love to cook -- I think my oven went 24/7 over the holidays here! For Christmas, I usually make home-baked goods for everyone and take them to work as well. Cooking is fun, and can be challening at times to -- changin recipes around, etc. I know I'm always looking for ways to make recipes healthier -- such as replacing butter with applesauce when possible; or using olive oil instead of regular oil. Sometimes it works -- sometimes, well it doesn't! :-)

    Rob


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  • From W8ZZU@VERT/SCANNER to Carol Shenkenberger on Friday, December 28, 2007 18:43:00
    Re: Any other hobbies?
    By: Carol Shenkenberger to All on Fri Dec 28 2007 12:54 am

    Just wondering.

    I also like to cook and tend to make too much so gift excess to neighbors. I'm a good cook so they appreciate it <g>.

    Ham radio, Video Games, Computers here.. I don't do too much cooking.. mostly grilling. Nothing like a big slab of meat on the grill.. :)


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  • From Angus McLeod@VERT/ANJO to W8ZZU on Friday, December 28, 2007 22:18:00
    Re: Any other hobbies?
    By: W8ZZU to Carol Shenkenberger on Fri Dec 28 2007 18:43:00

    I also like to cook and tend to make too much so gift excess to neighbors I'm a good cook so they appreciate it <g>.

    Ham radio, Video Games, Computers here.. I don't do too much cooking.. most grilling. Nothing like a big slab of meat on the grill.. :)

    I just ordered *this* baby

    http://www.electrifly.com/ductedfans/gpma6000-action3-lg.jpg
    http://www.electrifly.com/ductedfans/gpma6000-action2-lg.jpg
    http://video1.hobbico.com/gallery/gpm/gpma1870-6000-deluxe.mpg

    which should give me something to play with! :-) And I've already
    figured I might upgrade the 3500Kv motor (174 watts; 35,800 RPM) to a
    3790Kv motor (482 watts; 48,000 RPM). Hell, I could even go to a 4040Kv
    or 4875Kv motor, but I'd almost certainly hit the 50,000 RPM limit on the
    fan unit, and it'd blow up pretty spectacularly after that!

    Alas, the holidays have imposed a 5-day delay on shipping, so I've not received it yet.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Angus McLeod on Friday, December 28, 2007 19:04:13
    Re: Any other hobbies?
    By: Angus McLeod to W8ZZU on Fri Dec 28 2007 10:18 pm

    Re: Any other hobbies?
    By: W8ZZU to Carol Shenkenberger on Fri Dec 28 2007 18:43:00

    I also like to cook and tend to make too much so gift excess to neighb I'm a good cook so they appreciate it <g>.

    Ham radio, Video Games, Computers here.. I don't do too much cooking.. m grilling. Nothing like a big slab of meat on the grill.. :)

    I just ordered *this* baby

    http://www.electrifly.com/ductedfans/gpma6000-action3-lg.jpg

    Looks *cool*!

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@VERT/SHENKS to Mr. Microchip on Friday, December 28, 2007 22:33:00

    Count me in on the cooking club! I love to cook -- I think my oven went 24/ over the holidays here! For Christmas, I usually make home-baked goods for

    Cool! I just posted a longish post of a mere shopping trip in Fidonet's cooking echo, just a list of stuff I got.

    Before you think that is wierd, it was related to things others in the echo
    got recently and found ways to cook. I wanted to try those same things out.

    everyone and take them to work as well. Cooking is fun, and can be challeni at times to -- changin recipes around, etc. I know I'm always looking for w to make recipes healthier -- such as replacing butter with applesauce when possible; or using olive oil instead of regular oil. Sometimes it works -- sometimes, well it doesn't! :-)

    Sure! Same here. I have several 'challanges' in cooking. I am and have
    been sugar intolerant (blood sugar problems) since I was in my teens as
    noted, possibly before. Not diabetic but a variation of hypoglycemia that
    is stable with diet. Hence, you'll see a low sugar use in almost all my cooking. I also run high cholestrol so have to balance that. For a long
    time, we used salt to add the flavor the other adjustments required, but now Don is salt reactive so we had to trim that too. It makes cooking a
    challange.

    I find that applesauce is a poor sub for fat, but olive oil very often will work just fine. If a recipe calls for butter, dont use margarine to try to
    cut the fat, instead use real butter and a bit less then olive oil to make up the gap. If a recipe calls for margarine, I normally use butter (grin) and olive oil but sometimes just olive oil will do. {perhaps some butter buds}.

    Meantime, tomorrow's dinner will be a whole stuffed squid. We learned this
    one when in Japan and it's a good one. You have to find a big squid though
    and that can be hard stateside. Some folks think the big ones are best as rings so cut them all up.

    In Japan, the big ones are prized for stuffing and you can find them commonly up to 18 inches in body (not counting tentacles).

    There are many stuffings, mine is normally a rice, onion, cabbage, shrimp,
    and mussel/clam with bits of red bell peppers and a smallish green chile in Japan that is about 1/2 the heat of a jarred jalapeno. Mix this with some
    miso (omit if you cant find it), bannana sauce (Look for Jufran, it's red and looks like ketchup), oyster sauce, and a little worstershire. Sometimes we
    add sausage (precooked normally). The rice is precooked too <g>.

    We normally bake this after brushing the outside with olive oil and soy
    sauce. It's good hot but even better chilled then sliced. It doesnt slice
    well hot but does cold.

    Oh, you can use green bell peppers in place of the red. Red's are just
    cheaper in Japan and offset the green bits of cabbage and chile.

    Lots of my recipes do not work the first time, but I like to diddle with them until they do ;-)
    xxcarol

    PS: Into breadmaking perchance? I do that too along with crockpot cooking

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  • From W8ZZU@VERT/SCANNER to Angus McLeod on Friday, December 28, 2007 22:43:00
    Re: Any other hobbies?
    By: Angus McLeod to W8ZZU on Fri Dec 28 2007 10:18 pm

    I also like to cook and tend to make too much so gift excess to neighbors I'm a good cook so they appreciate it <g>.

    Ham radio, Video Games, Computers here.. I don't do too much cooking.. most grilling. Nothing like a big slab of meat on the grill.. :)

    I just ordered *this* baby

    http://www.electrifly.com/ductedfans/gpma6000-action3-lg.jpg
    http://www.electrifly.com/ductedfans/gpma6000-action2-lg.jpg
    http://video1.hobbico.com/gallery/gpm/gpma1870-6000-deluxe.mpg

    which should give me something to play with! :-) And I've already
    figured I might upgrade the 3500Kv motor (174 watts; 35,800 RPM) to a
    3790Kv motor (482 watts; 48,000 RPM). Hell, I could even go to a 4040Kv
    or 4875Kv motor, but I'd almost certainly hit the 50,000 RPM limit on the fan unit, and it'd blow up pretty spectacularly after that!

    Alas, the holidays have imposed a 5-day delay on shipping, so I've not received it yet.

    Aerocell huh? Flight ready in 10 min? I am expecting a full report.


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  • From W8ZZU@VERT/SCANNER to Digital Man on Friday, December 28, 2007 22:43:00
    Re: Any other hobbies?
    By: Digital Man to Angus McLeod on Fri Dec 28 2007 07:04 pm

    I just ordered *this* baby

    http://www.electrifly.com/ductedfans/gpma6000-action3-lg.jpg

    Looks *cool*!

    It looks faster than shit!! :)


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  • From Mr. Microchip@VERT to Carol Shenkenberger on Friday, December 28, 2007 21:26:04
    Re: Any other hobbies?
    By: Carol Shenkenberger to Mr. Microchip on Fri Dec 28 2007 10:33 pm

    Sure! Same here. I have several 'challanges' in cooking. I am and have been sugar intolerant (blood sugar problems) since I was in my teens as

    I am not a diabetic and don't have any problems with my blood sugar, but I do try to cut out excess sugar wherever possible. I do not drink sugary drinks (maybe ONE a year if absolutely nothing else is available). For baking and such, I use the Splenda 50/50 blend that works just great -- all the sweetness and half the sugar.


    PS: Into breadmaking perchance? I do that too along with crockpot cooking

    I don't do bread making -- I tried for a while, but came to realize I was spending a fortune on it when I could get it fresh from our local bakery!

    I do, however, do a lot of crockpot cooking. I'll throw just about anything in there. Crockpot Chili is always the best if you ask me! I will even cook cheap cuts of meat in there all day long and they come out as tender as you could ever want.

    Nowadays, I try to cook healthy as much as I can. Vegetables, vegetables and more vegetables! These new "Steam" bags you can buy in the stores are just the best thing they have ever invented. You can throw all sorts of things in them and then pop it in the microwave to steam for a while. Potatoes come out tasting fantastic when tossed with some spices.

    Rob


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  • From Angus McLeod@VERT/ANJO to Digital Man on Saturday, December 29, 2007 10:33:00
    Re: Any other hobbies?
    By: Digital Man to Angus McLeod on Fri Dec 28 2007 19:04:00

    I just ordered *this* baby

    http://www.electrifly.com/ductedfans/gpma6000-action3-lg.jpg

    Looks *cool*!

    Yeh! :-)

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  • From Angus McLeod@VERT/ANJO to W8ZZU on Saturday, December 29, 2007 10:42:00
    Re: Any other hobbies?
    By: W8ZZU to Angus McLeod on Fri Dec 28 2007 22:43:00

    Aerocell huh? Flight ready in 10 min?

    You just have to pop in the Rx. But programming the tranny for the elevon mixing, and setting throws and CoG will take longer than that.

    I am expecting a full report.

    One shall be forthcoming!

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  • From Angus McLeod@VERT/ANJO to W8ZZU on Saturday, December 29, 2007 10:45:00
    Re: Any other hobbies?
    By: W8ZZU to Digital Man on Fri Dec 28 2007 22:43:00

    It looks faster than shit!! :)

    Gonna be fun!

    I also hear that one of *these* may be showing up at out club:

    http://www.electrifly.com/ductedfans/gpma1869-flying-lg.jpg

    I've always liked the L-39, but it's more expensive, so I will use the
    cheaper model to experiment with the HyperFlow unit before I buy anything elaborate. Also, we might see one of these:

    http://www.gws.com.tw/images/product/airplane_gws-f15.jpg

    but it doesn't look like it will have all that great performance.

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@VERT/SHENKS to Mr. Microchip on Saturday, December 29, 2007 18:51:00

    Sure! Same here. I have several 'challanges' in cooking. I am and have been sugar intolerant (blood sugar problems) since I was in my teens as

    I am not a diabetic and don't have any problems with my blood sugar, but I d try to cut out excess sugar wherever possible. I do not drink sugary drinks (maybe ONE a year if absolutely nothing else is available). For baking and such, I use the Splenda 50/50 blend that works just great -- all the sweetne and half the sugar.

    Well, ben seeing lots of knowledge articles in the fidonet cooking echo on glycemic indexes and such. Some foods are higher than I thought.

    I simply do not like sugary things much. Ok for the occasional item, but not
    a normal thing daily for us here.

    Now starchy foods, thats another thing. Rice is almost always on for a fast nosh. Potatoes are real common (I use the crockpot to bake them).

    PS: Into breadmaking perchance? I do that too along with crockpot cooki

    I don't do bread making -- I tried for a while, but came to realize I was spending a fortune on it when I could get it fresh from our local bakery!

    Ah, well I settled on breadmakers for all but a few rare forays into soda breads that are either pan type, biscuit type, or drop type. I make a loaf
    of bread every 3-4 days. Before you think thats alot of bread, you have to realize the loaves are smaller than the store ones.

    My 2 favorites are a simple italian one (very thick crust, chewy) and a frend one (thin crackly crust, lighter interior). Both make good samwich breads.

    Once I got the hang of it an could almost 100% get a workable loaf (only when
    I experiment do I get failures now and only about 10% if that then), I found the price was cheaper to make my own. This was especially true in Sasebo Japan, where the only breads are terrible local ones, or frozen USA market 'wonderbread' at 2.50$ a loaf.

    I seldom need to spend more in the USA than 2.50$ for a goodlie sized bag of flour and the other additives are pretty cheap. That will make at least 7
    big loaves of bread. Not fancy, but no additives at all which we happen to like the idea of.

    Now making bread by hand? Forget it. Far too easy to do it with a machine
    so I give on that one <g>. I do use the dough only feature though sometimes for a fancy shaped loaf. I also did that yesterday for a batch of soft breadsticks. THey came out well and have sesame seeds and poppy seads on the top with a crusty parmesan cheese bite to them.

    I do, however, do a lot of crockpot cooking. I'll throw just about anything there. Crockpot Chili is always the best if you ask me! I will even cook cheap cuts of meat in there all day long and they come out as tender as you could ever want.


    Oh yes! I got my first crockpot when I was about 19 and was just learning
    how to cook. I adapted fast to that and have been using them for (geeze, I'm 47 now) 'a long time' will do. Grin, longer than some here have been out of diapers!

    My alltime best chili though, uses a cast iron huge skillet. It just comes
    out better that way.

    Nowadays, I try to cook healthy as much as I can. Vegetables, vegetables an more vegetables! These new "Steam" bags you can buy in the stores are just best thing they have ever invented. You can throw all sorts of things in th and then pop it in the microwave to steam for a while. Potatoes come out tasting fantastic when tossed with some spices.

    I'm kinda funny about some things. No offense, but after living in Japan, I find I dislike using plastics that arent reusable. Hence those steamer bags
    do not enthuse me any. They may work well, but I'd prefer to not try them.

    Somehow also I never adapted to microwave cookery except as a last resort. I finally figured out most of what others do in there, I use a crock pot for or like to fiddle with on the stove top. I'm kinda sorry the neighbors brought the microwave back as now it takes up counterspace.

    We loaned it out to a family across the street from us, who were waiting for their stuff to arrive from Rota Spain. It was a 2 month loan, and we barely noticed it except for the occasional kid's bag of popcorn or the freezer burritos. I am thinking to relocate it to ontop a high cabinet and use the step ladder for it's rare need. I think it gets used about once a week here.

    Oh on crockpots, I have 2. One 'momma crock' and one 'baby crock'. The big one is one of the big oval rivals, big as they get. I can do a 6lb chicken
    in there if I want. The baby crock holds about 5 cups if that. Useful for many things, including baking potatoes. Both with removable liners of
    course.

    I have a hankering for a potato and leek cream soup so put in some red
    potatoes (washed, not dried or skinned as we like the skin) in the baby
    crock. They will be ready to add the liquid (1/2 cup dashi or you could use chicken stock if desired) and chopped leek in the morning then just before serving, add whole cream (not sweet whipping, the other type). Cook a bit
    then puree and add butter to taste. I top the bowl with muenster cheese and some of the dried out bread leftover from the ends of my breadmaker loaves,
    cut to small bits like crutons then tossed in live oil and toasted in a
    frying pan.

    The fun thing about crockpots is you can tinker with them. I'm sure black papper and chives will get added. Maybe garlic. I'll see what we feel like tomorrow <G>.

    xxcarol

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  • From Mr. Microchip@VERT to Carol Shenkenberger on Saturday, December 29, 2007 20:12:57
    Re: Any other hobbies?
    By: Carol Shenkenberger to Mr. Microchip on Sat Dec 29 2007 06:51 pm

    Now starchy foods, thats another thing. Rice is almost always on for a fast nosh. Potatoes are real common (I use the crockpot to bake them).

    I hear you there! I am definitely a potato guy! I love baked potatoes and will make them as a "side" or a "whole meal" at least once a week. The same goes for rice -- I think its a great side dish and can really be dressed/flavored up if you want it to be.

    Bread and potatoes -- my two favorites! Heck, it has to be better than eating fried foods and red meats all the time. You won't find ANYTHING in this house fried -- we don't go for that. We will occassionally use some olive oil for a bit of "browning" but only slightly -- after all, olive oil has a low smoke point so you have to be careful. I think maybe once or twice a year we might throw some olive oil in the skillet and brown up something. Not much.



    Oh yes! I got my first crockpot when I was about 19 and was just learning how to cook. I adapted fast to that and have been using them for (geeze, I'

    My mom used to use one all the time. We grew up on the poor side, and crockpot cooking was a way to throw all the leftovers and odds and ends together and make a darn good meal. Just like I do nowadays with the lower-end cuts of meat -- the crockpot makes them all come out tasting great.

    Like you said, you can just tinker with it. Throw anything and everything into it and see what happens. I've never had a failure yet!

    I'm kinda funny about some things. No offense, but after living in Japan, I find I dislike using plastics that arent reusable. Hence those steamer bags do not enthuse me any. They may work well, but I'd prefer to not try them.

    You are right there -- they are not environmentally friendly. :-(

    Oh on crockpots, I have 2. One 'momma crock' and one 'baby crock'. The big one is one of the big oval rivals, big as they get. I can do a 6lb chicken

    I have three total, two big one medium. I've been eyeing one that has a built-in timer, but damn these things... they work forever! So hard to get rid of something that works to buy another!

    Rob


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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@VERT/SHENKS to Mr. Microchip on Sunday, December 30, 2007 17:24:00

    Now starchy foods, thats another thing. Rice is almost always on for a f nosh. Potatoes are real common (I use the crockpot to bake them).

    I hear you there! I am definitely a potato guy! I love baked potatoes and will make them as a "side" or a "whole meal" at least once a week. The same goes for rice -- I think its a great side dish and can really be dressed/flavored up if you want it to be.

    Oh definately! I have a rice maker (nice zorashi model) as we eat rice
    almost every day. Thats something you kinda get used to in Japan and it
    slips into your habits fast.

    While normally I make plain medium grain 'sticky rice' (calrose), I often add dashi to the cooking water or fumi furikake (rice seasonings) to it. I also make
    rice soups right in the cooker <g>.

    Here's something simple in line with much of my cookery after years in Japan.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Cold Tofu Appetizer
    Categories: Japanese, Appetizers, Tofu
    Yield: 1 Servings

    1 pk Tofu; cubed
    1 ts Grated ginger
    1 Scallions; finely chopped
    1 tb Soy sauce
    1 tb Sake (rice wine

    Divide the tofu into four cups. Mix together the sauce ingredients and
    sprinkle them on top. Flavor with chili pepper flakes if desired. You
    can also sprinkle the tofu with dried bonita flakes. busted by sooz
    Posted to recipelu-digest Volume 01 Number 227 by James and Susan
    Kirkland <kirkland@gj.net> on Nov 08, 1997

    MMMMM

    I just use regular onions though.


    Bread and potatoes -- my two favorites! Heck, it has to be better than eati fried foods and red meats all the time. You won't find ANYTHING in this hou fried -- we don't go for that. We will occassionally use some olive oil for bit of "browning" but only slightly -- after all, olive oil has a low smoke point so you have to be careful. I think maybe once or twice a year we migh throw some olive oil in the skillet and brown up something. Not much.

    Well, we fry more than that, but not all that often. Most things that are fried here are either squid, chicken gizzards, or 'won-ton-like-things'. I'd guess about every 2 weeks we fry something. Olive oil is our normal oil
    except in the deepfryer (crisco).

    Oh yes! I got my first crockpot when I was about 19 and was just learnin how to cook. I adapted fast to that and have been using them for (geeze,

    My mom used to use one all the time. We grew up on the poor side, and crock cooking was a way to throw all the leftovers and odds and ends together and make a darn good meal. Just like I do nowadays with the lower-end cuts of m -- the crockpot makes them all come out tasting great.


    Absolutely! I just made up some stuff. Here's a recipe of my own which you may like?

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Leeky Crockpot
    Categories: Crockpot, Soup, Xxcarol
    Yield: 12 Servings

    2 ea Leek bunches, washed and cut
    4 ea Medium red or white potatos
    2 cn Cream of mushroom soup
    1 cn Water
    1 pk Chopped mushrooms
    1 cn Blue lake green beans, whole
    4 ds Tabasco sauce or other hot
    1 ts White pepper (black ok)

    Chop all veggies roughly and add to crockpot. Now add all the cans,
    using the liquid from the green beans for the can of 'water' and
    adding more to make a full can. (May use fresh green beans and it's
    better that way). Add the mushrooms (consider using shiitake or
    morels if feeling fancy but plain will do). Add the rest and mix,
    then set on low for 6 hours. Its ready but will keep on low for
    another 12 hours cooking time easily. Refridgerate liner at night.
    Freezes pretty well in a sealed container.

    From: xxcarol

    Optional low-fat version, change soup to low-fat chicken broth and
    add a fistful of dry 'large lima beans' (otherwise known as butter
    beans). From: Carol Shenkenberger Date: 12-17-97 Cooking

    MMMMM


    I have loads of my own recipes in MM. Almost 300 of them in fact. THat one there is minimally spiced since I don't know your spicing habits.

    Like you said, you can just tinker with it. Throw anything and everything i it and see what happens. I've never had a failure yet!

    Well, I've had a few. A few days ago I overdid the curry powder in a batch
    and it was too hot to eat for us <g>. I could have saved it and watered it down with lots of stock and made a soup, but I'm still sorting my plastic keepers and didnt have anything of the right size. Don tossed it while I was still sorting so I didnt get to save some in the freezer as a 'concentrate to add water to for another dish'.

    Thats ok, it was all from rapidly wilting stuff and an experiment to just
    have fun with stuff I'd otherwise have to toss in a day or so more <g>. Rubbery celery doesnt add much crunch, but still flavors a stock nicely.

    I'm kinda funny about some things. No offense, but after living in Japan find I dislike using plastics that arent reusable. Hence those steamer b do not enthuse me any. They may work well, but I'd prefer to not try the

    You are right there -- they are not environmentally friendly. :-(

    Smile, it's ok. Just because I'm a bit careful on such, is no reason for you to not enjoy a new toy!

    Also, note I'm not much on microwaves so such things dont do me as much good
    as they would to a cook who uses one regular.

    A clean damp kitchen towel is as fancy as I get there. Another thing about Japan is electric is expen$ive in levels you are not used to stateside (I presume you are USA or Canada right?), and kitchens are very small. Trailer sized kitchens are bigger than many Japanese ones <g>. Hence, electric appliances are not all that popular and the ones they do use, tend to be smaller. They also have a type of oven you have to see to believe but my
    fast attempt to google didnt yield a picture. It is called a 'system 7' and
    is just a small slot broiler, smaller than a toaster oven.

    Due to very limited counter top space (I had a whopping 2ft square in my 'cho'), folks stow everything away and tend to use hand tools. ('Cho' is 'neighborhood' or 'apartment'). I have not hand an electric can opener in years and do not miss it at all. Other things I do not have, nor miss: electric mixer, electric food processor, coffee pot/hot water heater. Grunche s of others I am not thinking of.

    I have several manual whisks and egg beaters, 2 good but small plastic
    chopping blocks, many knives (quite a few are fairly special purpose), fish scaler, good old metal teapot for the stove, manual meat grinder.

    For appliances (electric): breadmaker, 2 crockpots, tiny japanese blender (holds 3 cups), a toaster (someplace), T-fal safety fryer, rice maker, microwave (we barely use it), dehydrator, and a vertical rotisserie. Now my counters at home cant handle all that, so we are about to relocate the microwave to ontop a tall shelf (5ft or so tall) and use a step stool for
    it's rare use. The dehydrator is up there now with room for the microwave
    next to it. The breadmaker, deep fryer, and rice maker are out all the time
    as well as at least 1 crockpot. The rest is stowed away.

    Oh on crockpots, I have 2. One 'momma crock' and one 'baby crock'. The one is one of the big oval rivals, big as they get. I can do a 6lb chick

    I have three total, two big one medium. I've been eyeing one that has a built-in timer, but damn these things... they work forever! So hard to get of something that works to buy another!

    Hehe I know the feeling. But on crockpots with timers, I dont think I'd use that feature if I had it. What I would like is if the small one had temperature adjustments so could be set to 'low'. The smaller size is just right for some things or moving the last of something from the big momma
    crock.

    If i were to add to my collection, it would be one medium (sometimes I have
    to make too much of something due to the big one's size). If the small one dies, I'll look for a replacement of same size, but with adjustable temps.
    xxcarol

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