With regards to the social ramifications;

The Millionaire wrote to Finnigann <=-

And you still like him for monopolizing the computer world? That's a sham then.
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You can't monopolize anything if there's no market for the product, if your product is far better than other products on the market it WILL sell more than the rest, but only if it is a SUPERIOR product and world wide Windows is the Superior computer software!

If only that were true.

Yet time and again, courts find Microsoft has violated some aspect of
law. Even the EC has cited MS for various infractions. Micorsoft's
history is littered with lawsuits.

It ain't ALL envy.

You are so right there Finnigan. Kudos.

A lot os us can recall times before BG was so philantropic with his
money. I used to have a copy of the letter he sent to the computer club
bemoaning lost revenue from folks passing around his DOS code.

Yet it was the prolification of that code into so many computers that
made DOS an early standard. and the x86 architechture it was based on.

The motororla was a significant option in the early days. Some still
think it's superior even today.




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Re: Re: Bill Gates
By: Finnigann to The Millionaire on Wed Dec 19 2007 05:39 pm

With regards to the social ramifications;

The Millionaire wrote to Finnigann <=-

And you still like him for monopolizing the computer world? That's a sham then.

$ The Millionaire $
Park Avenue Place
Surrey, B.C., Canada Û*Û

You can't monopolize anything if there's no market for the product, if your product is far better than other products on the market it WILL sell more than the rest, but only if it is a
SUPERIOR product and world wide Windows is the Superior computer software!

If only that were true.

Yet time and again, courts find Microsoft has violated some aspect of

law. Even the EC has cited MS for various infractions. Micorsoft's
history is littered with lawsuits.

It ain't ALL envy.

You are so right there Finnigan. Kudos.

A lot os us can recall times before BG was so philantropic with his
money. I used to have a copy of the letter he sent to the computer club
bemoaning lost revenue from folks passing around his DOS code.

Yet it was the prolification of that code into so many computers that
made DOS an early standard. and the x86 architechture it was based on.

The motororla was a significant option in the early days. Some still
think it's superior even today.

I loved Dos. It was the best OS ever. Simple to use and didn't require a
brain to run it. It was pretty self explanatory. Plus it didn't crash as much either.
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Re: Re: Bill Gates
By: Finnigann to The Millionaire on Wed Dec 19 2007 05:39 pm

A lot os us can recall times before BG was so philantropic with his
money. I used to have a copy of the letter he sent to the computer club
bemoaning lost revenue from folks passing around his DOS code.

Yet it was the prolification of that code into so many computers that
made DOS an early standard. and the x86 architechture it was based on.

It was his BASIC code for the Altair. MS-BASIC proliferated because vendors bought it and put it on the ROMs.

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With regards to the social ramifications;

Deuce wrote to Finnigann <=-

Re: Re: Bill Gates
By: Finnigann to The Millionaire on Wed Dec 19 2007 05:39 pm

A lot os us can recall times before BG was so philantropic with his
money. I used to have a copy of the letter he sent to the computer club
bemoaning lost revenue from folks passing around his DOS code.

Yet it was the prolification of that code into so many computers that
made DOS an early standard. and the x86 architechture it was based on.

It was his BASIC code for the Altair. MS-BASIC proliferated because vendors bought it and put it on the ROMs.

I was referring to the code on tape. That it was DOS, I'm not so sure
about.

Bootlegged tapes were passed around to club members.




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Re: Re: Bill Gates
By: Finnigann to Deuce on Thu Dec 20 2007 03:06 am

It was his BASIC code for the Altair. MS-BASIC proliferated because vendors bought it and put it on the ROMs.

I was referring to the code on tape. That it was DOS, I'm not so sure
about.

Bootlegged tapes were passed around to club members.

Yeah. Altair BASIC.

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Re: Re: Bill Gates
By: The Millionaire to Finnigann on Wed Dec 19 2007 05:28 pm

I loved Dos. It was the best OS ever. Simple to use and didn't require a brain to run it. It was pretty self explanatory. Plus it didn't crash as much either.

Crash as much as what? Can DOS be crashed?


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Re: Re: Bill Gates
By: W8ZZU to The Millionaire on Thu Dec 20 2007 06:14 pm

Re: Re: Bill Gates
By: The Millionaire to Finnigann on Wed Dec 19 2007 05:28 pm

I loved Dos. It was the best OS ever. Simple to use and didn't require a brain to run it. It was pretty self explanatory. Plus it didn't crash as much either.

Crash as much as what? Can DOS be crashed?

Absolutely, DOS can be crashed.

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Re: Re: Bill Gates
By: W8ZZU to The Millionaire on Thu Dec 20 2007 06:14 pm

Re: Re: Bill Gates
By: The Millionaire to Finnigann on Wed Dec 19 2007 05:28 pm

I loved Dos. It was the best OS ever. Simple to use and didn't require a brain to run it. It was pretty self explanatory. Plus it didn't crash as much either.

Crash as much as what? Can DOS be crashed?

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Crash as much as windows. Yes I remember Dos used to crash from time to time because of the limited memory we had back then and using a lot of programs.

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Re: Re: Bill Gates
By: The Millionaire to Finnigann on Wed Dec 19 2007 05:28 pm

I loved Dos. It was the best OS ever. Simple to use and didn't require a brain to run it. It was pretty self explanatory. Plus it didn't crash as muc either.

When I used to be able to batch code fairly good along with a couple Qbasic stubs stuck in every now and then I was able to accomplish great things under DOS..

I loved it!

Don't have the patience for it now :(

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Re: Re: Bill Gates
By: W8ZZU to The Millionaire on Thu Dec 20 2007 06:14 pm

Crash as much as what? Can DOS be crashed?

afaik I never had DOS crash.. I would have one of my batches crap out but that's about it.

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Re: Re: Bill Gates
By: Mrproper to The Millionaire on Fri Dec 21 2007 08:43 pm

Re: Re: Bill Gates
By: The Millionaire to Finnigann on Wed Dec 19 2007 05:28 pm

I loved Dos. It was the best OS ever. Simple to use and didn't require a brain to run it. It was pretty self explanatory. Plus it didn't crash as muc either.

When I used to be able to batch code fairly good along with a couple Qbasic stubs stuck in every now and then I was able to accomplish great things under DOS..

I loved it!

Don't have the patience for it now :(

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How times change huh? Usually for the worst.
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Re: Re: Bill Gates
By: Digital Man to W8ZZU on Thu Dec 20 2007 04:37 pm

Crash as much as what? Can DOS be crashed?

Absolutely, DOS can be crashed.

Interesting. I don't think I have ever had DOS crash..


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Re: Re: Bill Gates
By: The Millionaire to W8ZZU on Thu Dec 20 2007 05:54 pm

Crash as much as windows. Yes I remember Dos used to crash from time to
time because of the limited memory we had back then and using a lot of programs.

I have never had Win/XP or Vista crash ever. I haven't seen a BSOD since Win/ME.


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Re: Re: Bill Gates
By: The Millionaire to Mrproper on Fri Dec 21 2007 07:07 pm

How times change huh? Usually for the worst.

Brother.. you got that right..

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Re: Crashing
By: W8ZZU to The Millionaire on Fri Dec 21 2007 11:03 pm

I have never had Win/XP or Vista crash ever. I haven't seen a BSOD since Win/ME.

I setup a new dell computer the other day with vista on it and it seemed to have run better and had a few quirks knocked out of it since the last I've seen it.. there may be hope for it after all..

But ME is a whole different beast there.. I've had many problems with ME, mostly with hardware and problems with RAM.

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Re: Re: Bill Gates
By: Mrproper to The Millionaire on Sat Dec 22 2007 06:34 am

Re: Re: Bill Gates
By: The Millionaire to Mrproper on Fri Dec 21 2007 07:07 pm

How times change huh? Usually for the worst.

Brother.. you got that right..

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Thanks. :-)
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W ³ Re: Re: Bill Gates
W ³ By: Digital Man to W8ZZU on Thu Dec 20 2007 04:37 pm
W ³
W ³ > > Crash as much as what? Can DOS be crashed?
W ³ >
W ³ > Absolutely, DOS can be crashed.
W ³
W ³ Interesting. I don't think I have ever had DOS crash..
W ³

I don't think I've ever seen DOS crash either, but since as a
non-multitasking operating system, one locked app locks up the entire
computer, it sure LOOKS like DOS can crash. Truth be told, the old girl
was pretty bulletproof.

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