• PIC

    From Belly@VERT/BRAZINET to All on Thursday, January 20, 2005 21:15:00
    Anyone ever done any PIC programming?

    I was doing some cleaning in the basement and uncovered my workbench. I pulled a Basic Stamp 2 out of an old project and played with that a while, but
    that's boring... I can already write code for that. :)
    I found a PIC16C57 mixed in with some parts. I'm checking out the reference guide on Microchip's site now... This might involve learning somethine new :)

    How about stepper motors? Anyone played with those? I ripped a couple out of some old printers to play with. Robotics sounds like an interesting hobby for the next few months. :)

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  • From Angus Mcleod@VERT/ANJO to Belly on Friday, January 21, 2005 00:37:00
    Re: PIC
    By: Belly to All on Thu Jan 20 2005 21:15:00

    Anyone ever done any PIC programming?

    <groan> I'd give my left nut for a decent PIC programmer.

    I was doing some cleaning in the basement and uncovered my workbench. I pull a Basic Stamp 2 out of an old project and played with that a while, but that's boring... I can already write code for that. :)

    The STAMP doesn't look as interesting as (say) a 16F628 or a 18F452 or
    even a 16F877.

    I found a PIC16C57 mixed in with some parts. I'm checking out the reference guide on Microchip's site now... This might involve learning somethine new :

    How long have you had that little beastie?

    How about stepper motors? Anyone played with those? I ripped a couple out of some old printers to play with. Robotics sounds like an interesting hobby fo the next few months. :)

    Enjoy!

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  • From Corey@VERT/TSGC to Belly on Thursday, January 20, 2005 20:50:00
    Re: PIC
    By: Belly to All on Thu Jan 20 2005 09:15 pm

    Anyone ever done any PIC programming?

    I was doing some cleaning in the basement and uncovered my workbench. I pull a Basic Stamp 2 out of an old project and played with that a while, but that's boring... I can already write code for that. :)
    I found a PIC16C57 mixed in with some parts. I'm checking out the reference guide on Microchip's site now... This might involve learning somethine new :

    How about stepper motors? Anyone played with those? I ripped a couple out of some old printers to play with. Robotics sounds like an interesting hobby fo the next few months. :)

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    I like robots.
    I have seen a demo of the one sony is working on, it is about 18 inches tall. but, the best out now has to be Sony's AIBO. they are smart little things.
    I also like the AA stuff that Disney uses, and Chuck E Cheese Pizza, and before then, the Rock Afire explosion too, designed by the great Aaron Fector. even the stuff from Sally Corp too. I have some clips of the Rock Afire if you would like to see how they looked.

    Corey+

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  • From Angus Mcleod@VERT/ANJO to Corey on Friday, January 21, 2005 08:27:00
    Re: PIC
    By: Corey to Belly on Thu Jan 20 2005 20:50:00

    I like robots.
    I have seen a demo of the one sony is working on, it is about 18 inches tall but, the best out now has to be Sony's AIBO. they are smart little things.

    Didn't DM buy one of them? (He gets all sorts of cool toys!)


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Angus Mcleod on Friday, January 21, 2005 13:52:39
    Re: PIC
    By: Angus Mcleod to Corey on Fri Jan 21 2005 08:27 am

    Re: PIC
    By: Corey to Belly on Thu Jan 20 2005 20:50:00

    I like robots.
    I have seen a demo of the one sony is working on, it is about 18 inches t but, the best out now has to be Sony's AIBO. they are smart little things

    Didn't DM buy one of them? (He gets all sorts of cool toys!)

    I wish. No, my brother got me an I-Cybie. I left the battery in the charger for too long and it ruined the batter (stupid charger!). I need to order a new battery so Emma can destroy it. :-)

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  • From Corey@VERT/TSGC to Digital Man on Friday, January 21, 2005 14:05:00
    Re: PIC
    By: Digital Man to Angus Mcleod on Fri Jan 21 2005 01:52 pm

    Re: PIC
    By: Angus Mcleod to Corey on Fr

    Re: PIC
    By: Corey to Belly on Thu Jan 20 2005 20:50:00

    I like robots.
    I have seen a demo of the one sony is working on, it is about 18 inche but, the best out now has to be Sony's AIBO. they are smart little thi

    Didn't DM buy one of them? (He gets all sorts of cool toys!)

    I wish. No, my brother got me an I-Cybie. I left the battery in the charger too long and it ruined the batter (stupid charger!). I need to order a new battery so Emma can destroy it. :-)

    digital man

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    a AIBO will get away from the charger after it's recharged.
    it's a smart doggy, it pulls it face out of the dish after it's full,
    a stupid doggy will eat untill it dies, i.e. I-Cybie.
    to dumb to realize it's dying and pull it's face out of the bowl...

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  • From Angus Mcleod@VERT/ANJO to Digital Man on Friday, January 21, 2005 19:20:00
    Re: PIC
    By: Digital Man to Angus Mcleod on Fri Jan 21 2005 13:52:00

    Didn't DM buy one of them? (He gets all sorts of cool toys!)

    I wish. No, my brother got me an I-Cybie.

    Hey, they look pretty cool as well!

    I left the battery in the charger too long and it ruined the batter
    (stupid charger!). I need to order a new battery so Emma can destroy
    it. :-)

    Oh yeah. Kids. They don't come equipped with hammers because somehow,
    they don't need them.


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Angus Mcleod on Friday, January 21, 2005 15:54:32
    Re: PIC
    By: Angus Mcleod to Digital Man on Fri Jan 21 2005 07:20 pm

    Re: PIC
    By: Digital Man to Angus Mcleod on Fri Jan 21 2005 13:52:00

    Didn't DM buy one of them? (He gets all sorts of cool toys!)

    I wish. No, my brother got me an I-Cybie.

    Hey, they look pretty cool as well!

    I left the battery in the charger too long and it ruined the batter (stupid charger!). I need to order a new battery so Emma can destroy
    it. :-)

    Oh yeah. Kids. They don't come equipped with hammers because somehow,
    they don't need them.

    Yeah, Eliza is actually the more destructive one. But probably just because she's older and capable of more dam(m)age. :-)

    She *loves* to draw. Usually on paper or those magic-magnet drawing toys, but occasionally on the walls or furniture. More recently, on the carpet. :-(

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  • From Angus Mcleod@VERT/ANJO to Digital Man on Friday, January 21, 2005 20:11:00
    Re: PIC
    By: Digital Man to Angus Mcleod on Fri Jan 21 2005 15:54:00

    Yeah, Eliza is actually the more destructive one. But probably just because she's older and capable of more dam(m)age. :-)

    Probably. I hope neither of them have started in on the dangerous sports. Like bannister-sliding or rooftop-climbing or anything like that.

    She *loves* to draw. Usually on paper or those magic-magnet drawing
    toys, but occasionally on the walls or furniture. More recently, on the carpet. :-(

    Ouch. You can paint out the wall, but the carpet is a little different.


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  • From Belly@VERT/BRAZINET to Angus Mcleod on Friday, January 21, 2005 19:19:00
    Re: PIC
    By: Angus Mcleod to Belly on Fri Jan 21 2005 12:37 am

    <groan> I'd give my left nut for a decent PIC programmer.

    I've seen some fairly inexpensive EPROM/PIC programmers on the net (around $150 US) which list a wide variety of compatible devices. I almost bought my Dad one for Christmas. He does a lot of work on 80's vintage Motorola and GE commercial radios.

    The STAMP doesn't look as interesting as (say) a 16F628 or a 18F452 or
    even a 16F877.

    It has the advantage of being extremely easy to write code for, which is a plus in my book. The project that I removed it from was a speedometer/tach/rev limiter for a go-kart... It had a 16x2 LCD, and stored maximums for speed and rpm. It had a two-way rocker switch to navigate menus and select options.


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  • From Belly@VERT/BRAZINET to Corey on Friday, January 21, 2005 19:20:00
    Re: PIC
    By: Corey to Belly on Thu Jan 20 2005 08:50 pm

    I like robots.
    I have seen a demo of the one sony is working on, it is about 18 inches tall

    I assure you that anything I build will be lucky to move under its own power, much less assert any signs of intelligence.

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  • From Belly@VERT/BRAZINET to Digital Man on Friday, January 21, 2005 19:24:00
    Re: PIC
    By: Digital Man to Angus Mcleod on Fri Jan 21 2005 03:54 pm

    She *loves* to draw. Usually on paper or those magic-magnet drawing toys, bu occasionally on the walls or furniture. More recently, on the carpet. :-(

    You mean you haven't received any lovely crayon-on-CRT-monitor art yet?

    Even better is the "It's fun to beat the 52" projection TV with a bat" activity hour!

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Angus Mcleod on Friday, January 21, 2005 18:17:08
    Re: PIC
    By: Angus Mcleod to Digital Man on Fri Jan 21 2005 08:11 pm

    Yeah, Eliza is actually the more destructive one. But probably just becau she's older and capable of more dam(m)age. :-)

    Probably. I hope neither of them have started in on the dangerous sports. Like bannister-sliding or rooftop-climbing or anything like that.

    A little sofa jumping/diving, that's about it (so far).

    She *loves* to draw. Usually on paper or those magic-magnet drawing
    toys, but occasionally on the walls or furniture. More recently, on the carpet. :-(

    Ouch. You can paint out the wall, but the carpet is a little different.

    Yeah. The ink in the grout in the bathroom doesn't clean-up too well either. :-(

    digital man

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Belly on Friday, January 21, 2005 18:18:24
    Re: PIC
    By: Belly to Angus Mcleod on Fri Jan 21 2005 07:19 pm

    Re: PIC
    By: Angus Mcleod to Belly on Fri Jan 21 2005 12:37 am

    <groan> I'd give my left nut for a decent PIC programmer.

    I've seen some fairly inexpensive EPROM/PIC programmers on the net (around $ US) which list a wide variety of compatible devices. I almost bought my Dad for Christmas. He does a lot of work on 80's vintage Motorola and GE commerc radios.

    And here I thought you guys were talking about the PIC operating system (or is that "PICK"?).

    digital man

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Belly on Friday, January 21, 2005 18:19:50
    Re: PIC
    By: Belly to Digital Man on Fri Jan 21 2005 07:24 pm

    Re: PIC
    By: Digital Man to Angus Mcleod on Fri Jan 21 2005 03:54 pm

    She *loves* to draw. Usually on paper or those magic-magnet drawing toys, occasionally on the walls or furniture. More recently, on the carpet. :-(

    You mean you haven't received any lovely crayon-on-CRT-monitor art yet?

    My wife's monitor has been attacked with ink pens and *both* our keyboards and mice. Yes, we hide the pens, but Eliza manages to find them.

    Even better is the "It's fun to beat the 52" projection TV with a bat" activ hour!

    <shrieks in horror at the thought>

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  • From Corey@VERT/TSGC to Digital Man on Friday, January 21, 2005 18:28:00
    Re: PIC
    By: Digital Man to Belly on Fri Jan 21 2005 06:18 pm

    Re: PIC
    By: Belly to Angus Mcleod on Fr

    Re: PIC
    By: Angus Mcleod to Belly on Fri Jan 21 2005 12:37 am

    <groan> I'd give my left nut for a decent PIC programmer.

    I've seen some fairly inexpensive EPROM/PIC programmers on the net (aroun US) which list a wide variety of compatible devices. I almost bought my D for Christmas. He does a lot of work on 80's vintage Motorola and GE comm radios.

    And here I thought you guys were talking about the PIC operating system (or that "PICK"?).

    digital man

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    work at Disney in the computer department and you can enjoy programming in super oslo. nothing like hacking on a old mainframe to pass the day.


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  • From Angus Mcleod@VERT/ANJO to Belly on Saturday, January 22, 2005 00:25:00
    Re: PIC
    By: Belly to Digital Man on Fri Jan 21 2005 19:24:00

    You mean you haven't received any lovely crayon-on-CRT-monitor art yet?

    That could be nice!

    Even better is the "It's fun to beat the 52" projection TV with a bat" activ hour!

    Ghaaaak!


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  • From Angus Mcleod@VERT/ANJO to Digital Man on Saturday, January 22, 2005 00:30:00
    Re: PIC
    By: Digital Man to Belly on Fri Jan 21 2005 18:18:00

    <groan> I'd give my left nut for a decent PIC programmer.

    I've seen some fairly inexpensive EPROM/PIC programmers on the net (aroun US) which list a wide variety of compatible devices. I almost bought my D for Christmas. He does a lot of work on 80's vintage Motorola and GE comm radios.

    And here I thought you guys were talking about the PIC operating system (or that "PICK"?).

    PICK is an OS.

    PIC is a microcontroller/computer-on-a-chip family. Very popular. A
    large range of devices, low cost, and lots of 3rd-party support for
    compilers, boot-loaders, etc.


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  • From Corey@VERT/TSGC to Angus Mcleod on Friday, January 21, 2005 21:07:00
    Re: PIC
    By: Angus Mcleod to Digital Man on Sat Jan 22 2005 12:30 am

    Re: PIC
    By: Digital Man to Belly on Fri

    <groan> I'd give my left nut for a decent PIC programmer.

    I've seen some fairly inexpensive EPROM/PIC programmers on the net (ar US) which list a wide variety of compatible devices. I almost bought m for Christmas. He does a lot of work on 80's vintage Motorola and GE c radios.

    And here I thought you guys were talking about the PIC operating system ( that "PICK"?).

    PICK is an OS.

    PIC is a microcontroller/computer-on-a-chip family. Very popular. A
    large range of devices, low cost, and lots of 3rd-party support for compilers, boot-loaders, etc.



    yep, PICK is only used on the NOSE hardware...
    and SCRATCH is mostly used on the BUTT.

    hmm, I have to get more sleep these days.

    Corey

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  • From Belly@VERT/BRAZINET to Digital Man on Friday, January 21, 2005 23:41:00
    Re: PIC
    By: Digital Man to Belly on Fri Jan 21 2005 06:18 pm

    And here I thought you guys were talking about the PIC operating system (or that "PICK"?).

    Not familiar with it. What's it?

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  • From Belly@VERT/BRAZINET to Digital Man on Friday, January 21, 2005 23:43:00
    Re: PIC
    By: Digital Man to Belly on Fri Jan 21 2005 06:19 pm

    Even better is the "It's fun to beat the 52" projection TV with a bat" ac hour!

    <shrieks in horror at the thought>

    Uh huh. If you unfocus your eyes a little, the crack's not visible anymore. :(

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  • From Belly@VERT/BRAZINET to Angus Mcleod on Friday, January 21, 2005 23:49:00
    Re: PIC
    By: Angus Mcleod to Belly on Sat Jan 22 2005 12:25 am

    Even better is the "It's fun to beat the 52" projection TV with a bat" ac hour!

    Ghaaaak!

    My oldest son wasn't that bad... When he was younger, I had an old Sony front-projection unit... You've probably seen one. Big, slightly concave reflective screen on top, and a mirror that pulls out of the front. It was hard to break.

    One thing that I don't miss about it is lying on the floor in front of it adjusting convergence with a tuning tool while someone else in the room guides me.... "left... no more... too much.... wait... I thought we were doing blue now?"

    argh. Every 2 or 3 months.

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  • From MBR@VERT/RETROPC to Belly on Saturday, January 22, 2005 01:20:00
    Re: PIC
    By: Belly to All on Thu Jan 20 2005 09:15 pm

    How about stepper motors? Anyone played with those? I ripped a couple out of some old printers to play with. Robotics sounds like an interesting hobby fo the next few months. :)

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    i personally haven't but a friend of mine built a large CNC machien with steppers..

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  • From Fro@VERT/BRAZINET to Belly on Saturday, January 22, 2005 01:26:00
    Re: PIC
    By: Belly to Angus Mcleod on Fri Jan 21 2005 11:49 pm

    Re: PIC
    By: Angus Mcleod to Belly on Sat Jan 22 2005 12:25 am

    Even better is the "It's fun to beat the 52" projection TV with a bat" hour!

    Ghaaaak!

    My oldest son wasn't that bad... When he was younger, I had an old Sony front-projection unit... You've probably seen one. Big, slightly concave reflective screen on top, and a mirror that pulls out of the front. It was h to break.

    One thing that I don't miss about it is lying on the floor in front of it adjusting convergence with a tuning tool while someone else in the room guid me.... "left... no more... too much.... wait... I thought we were doing blue now?"

    argh. Every 2 or 3 months.

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    Ah come on you cant say you dont miss it. That was about the time of car-in-dick and bed or leaves. ah good stuff.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Belly on Saturday, January 22, 2005 00:45:31
    Re: PIC
    By: Belly to Digital Man on Fri Jan 21 2005 11:41 pm

    Re: PIC
    By: Digital Man to Belly on Fri Jan 21 2005 06:18 pm

    And here I thought you guys were talking about the PIC operating system ( that "PICK"?).

    Not familiar with it. What's it?

    A "business" OS. I don't know much about it except that an old friend of mine (Steve Deppe, aka Ille Homine Albe) used to have a job at General Automation writing firmware for a 68040 board that ran PICK. I think they (GA) folded.

    Of course, they used Unix systems to develop and build the code. :-)

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Belly on Saturday, January 22, 2005 00:49:26
    Re: PIC
    By: Belly to Angus Mcleod on Fri Jan 21 2005 11:49 pm

    One thing that I don't miss about it is lying on the floor in front of it adjusting convergence with a tuning tool while someone else in the room guid me.... "left... no more... too much.... wait... I thought we were doing blue now?"

    I have a 65" Mitsubishi CRT rear-projection. It looks great (at night when there's no glare), but has the same hassles of convergence drift.

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  • From Angus Mcleod@VERT/ANJO to Belly on Saturday, January 22, 2005 10:09:00
    Re: PIC
    By: Belly to Digital Man on Fri Jan 21 2005 23:43:00

    Even better is the "It's fun to beat the 52" projection TV with a bat" hour!

    <shrieks in horror at the thought>

    Uh huh. If you unfocus your eyes a little, the crack's not visible anymore.

    See, *my* son would never! He might have *peed* on it, but he's past that stage now, thankfully!


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  • From Angus Mcleod@VERT/ANJO to Belly on Saturday, January 22, 2005 10:10:00
    Re: PIC
    By: Belly to Angus Mcleod on Fri Jan 21 2005 23:49:00

    One thing that I don't miss about it is lying on the floor in front of it adjusting convergence with a tuning tool while someone else in the room guid me.... "left... no more... too much.... wait... I thought we were doing blue now?"

    Yea, I never liked them things.

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  • From Angus Mcleod@VERT/ANJO to MBR on Saturday, January 22, 2005 10:21:00
    Re: PIC
    By: MBR to Belly on Sat Jan 22 2005 01:20:00

    How about stepper motors? Anyone played with those? I ripped a couple out some old printers to play with. Robotics sounds like an interesting hobby the next few months. :)

    i personally haven't but a friend of mine built a large CNC machien with steppers..

    Modelers build CNC wing-cutting machines and there are a few sites on the
    net that are of interest.

    http://www.hobbycnc.com/
    http://www.8linx.com/cnc/

    Of course, Belly will want Client/Server stepper motors, that become non-steppers if driven linearly.....

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  • From Angus Mcleod@VERT/ANJO to Digital Man on Saturday, January 22, 2005 10:22:00
    Re: PIC
    By: Digital Man to Belly on Sat Jan 22 2005 00:45:00

    Of course, they used Unix systems to develop and build the code. :-)

    Sorta like Redmond? :-)


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  • From MBR@VERT/RETROPC to Angus Mcleod on Saturday, January 22, 2005 10:46:00
    Re: PIC
    By: Angus Mcleod to MBR on Sat Jan 22 2005 10:21 am

    some old printers to play with. Robotics sounds like an interesting ho the next few months. :)

    i personally haven't but a friend of mine built a large CNC machien with steppers..

    Modelers build CNC wing-cutting machines and there are a few sites on the net that are of interest.

    http://www.hobbycnc.com/ http://www.8linx.com/cnc/

    thanks i'll check those out.. CNC never personally interested me. but it's cool and my friend has one and and and and.. ok i'm interested :)

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  • From Belly@VERT/BRAZINET to Fro on Saturday, January 22, 2005 14:08:00
    Re: PIC
    By: Fro to Belly on Sat Jan 22 2005 01:26 am

    My oldest son wasn't that bad... When he was younger, I had an old Sony front-projection unit... You've probably seen one. Big, slightly concave reflective screen on top, and a mirror that pulls out of the front. It wa to break.
    Ah come on you cant say you dont miss it. That was about the time of car-in-dick and bed or leaves. ah good stuff.

    And don't forget watching pr0n on C-band satellite with no sound because the modified descrambler wouldn't do audio :)

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  • From Belly@VERT/BRAZINET to Digital Man on Saturday, January 22, 2005 14:11:00
    Re: PIC
    By: Digital Man to Belly on Sat Jan 22 2005 12:49 am

    I have a 65" Mitsubishi CRT rear-projection. It looks great (at night when there's no glare), but has the same hassles of convergence drift.

    That old Sony was made in '79... If you stomped on the floor near it, it needed to be realigned :)

    My Toshiba is about 4 years old now, and I haven't had a minute's trouble out of it. Knock on wood.

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  • From Belly@VERT/BRAZINET to Angus Mcleod on Saturday, January 22, 2005 14:12:00
    Re: PIC
    By: Angus Mcleod to Belly on Sat Jan 22 2005 10:09 am

    Uh huh. If you unfocus your eyes a little, the crack's not visible anymor

    See, *my* son would never! He might have *peed* on it, but he's past that stage now, thankfully!

    I'll just put it like this: He doesn't touch it ANYMORE. :/

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Belly on Saturday, January 22, 2005 16:15:20
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    By: Belly to Digital Man on Sat Jan 22 2005 02:11 pm

    I have a 65" Mitsubishi CRT rear-projection. It looks great (at night whe there's no glare), but has the same hassles of convergence drift.

    That old Sony was made in '79... If you stomped on the floor near it, it nee to be realigned :)

    My Toshiba is about 4 years old now, and I haven't had a minute's trouble ou of it. Knock on wood.

    My Mitsu is a bit of 2 years old. It didn't really have issues until we moved it last year (to our new house). It really does look great though. Blows away the 42" Akai Plasma flat panel we just bought at Costo last week (traded-up from a 30" Sceptre LCD that really looked/sounded poor).

    digital man

    Snapple "Real Fact" #13:
    Cats have over 100 vocal sounds.

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  • From Belly@VERT/BRAZINET to Angus Mcleod on Saturday, January 22, 2005 14:25:00
    Re: PIC
    By: Angus Mcleod to MBR on Sat Jan 22 2005 10:21 am

    Modelers build CNC wing-cutting machines and there are a few sites on the net that are of interest.

    http://www.hobbycnc.com/
    http://www.8linx.com/cnc/

    Of course, Belly will want Client/Server stepper motors, that become non-steppers if driven linearly.....

    I'm pretty damned sure that the stepper is not a peer to its driver transistors. :P

    I'll check those sites out and see what info they offer. I found a good stepper overview at http://eio.com/jasstep.htm

    I threw the necessary parts onto a breadboard along with a stamp2, and wrote some basic code for driving one of the Apple steppers. It works great. Seems pretty torquey as long as you don't run it too fast. Took me some trial and error to find the right coil sequences :)

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  • From Angus Mcleod@VERT/ANJO to Belly on Sunday, January 23, 2005 11:08:00
    Re: PIC
    By: Belly to Angus Mcleod on Sat Jan 22 2005 14:25:00

    I threw the necessary parts onto a breadboard along with a stamp2, and wrote some basic code for driving one of the Apple steppers. It works great. Seems pretty torquey as long as you don't run it too fast. Took me some trial and error to find the right coil sequences :)

    How much power does it use?

    With my hobby (aero-modelling) any fancy hardware has to be light in
    weight and has to carry it's own light-weight power supply.

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  • From Fro@VERT/BRAZINET to Belly on Sunday, January 23, 2005 08:42:00
    Re: PIC
    By: Belly to Fro on Sat Jan 22 2005 02:08 pm

    Re: PIC
    By: Fro to Belly on Sat Jan 22 2005 01:26 am

    My oldest son wasn't that bad... When he was younger, I had an old Son front-projection unit... You've probably seen one. Big, slightly conca reflective screen on top, and a mirror that pulls out of the front. It to break.
    Ah come on you cant say you dont miss it. That was about the time of car-in-dick and bed or leaves. ah good stuff.

    And don't forget watching pr0n on C-band satellite with no sound because the modified descrambler wouldn't do audio :)

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    Who needs audio? :) Gotta be da shoes!

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  • From Fro@VERT/BRAZINET to Digital Man on Sunday, January 23, 2005 08:43:00
    Re: PIC
    By: Digital Man to Belly on Sat Jan 22 2005 04:15 pm

    Re: PIC
    By: Belly to Digital Man on Sat Jan 22 2005 02:11 pm

    I have a 65" Mitsubishi CRT rear-projection. It looks great (at night there's no glare), but has the same hassles of convergence drift.

    That old Sony was made in '79... If you stomped on the floor near it, it to be realigned :)

    My Toshiba is about 4 years old now, and I haven't had a minute's trouble of it. Knock on wood.

    My Mitsu is a bit of 2 years old. It didn't really have issues until we move it last year (to our new house). It really does look great though. Blows awa the 42" Akai Plasma flat panel we just bought at Costo last week (traded-up from a 30" Sceptre LCD that really looked/sounded poor).

    digital man

    Snapple "Real Fact" #13:
    Cats have over 100 vocal sounds.


    Sounded poor? Eh?

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  • From Belly@VERT/BRAZINET to Angus Mcleod on Sunday, January 23, 2005 14:00:00
    Re: PIC
    By: Angus Mcleod to Belly on Sun Jan 23 2005 11:08 am

    I threw the necessary parts onto a breadboard along with a stamp2, and wr some basic code for driving one of the Apple steppers. It works great. Se pretty torquey as long as you don't run it too fast. Took me some trial a error to find the right coil sequences :)

    How much power does it use?

    With my hobby (aero-modelling) any fancy hardware has to be light in
    weight and has to carry it's own light-weight power supply.

    Right now, there's a clear plastic food container wandering randomly around my kitchen under its own power, much to the distress of the cat. The pair of steppers in it are pretty heavy... I'd imagine that you would use standard servos in an airborne environment. The rest of the electronics don't weigh too much though... 3 main components: The BS2 itself (a 24pin DIP), and two ULN2003A inverter-drivers (16pin DIPs). The stamp pulls 3-5mA when running, and can be powered from 6-15v. Right now, the whole thing, motors and all, is powered from a 12v/500mA wall wart with long wires :)

    Now that I have the locomotion taken care of, I need to decide what inputs to give it. A front bumper with a microswitch will probably be the first addition, to add some kitchen-cabinet avoidance :)

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  • From MARK FIRESTONE@VERT/QBBSTST to Angus Mcleod on Monday, January 24, 2005 10:57:00
    --- SomeoneAngus Mcleod wrote ---
    You mean you haven't received any lovely crayon-on-CRT-monitor art yet?

    My kids are outgrowing that a bit, but I got them this dog... and it eats everything. I just paid out œ150 to repair two leather couches that it
    tried to eat... while the kids were watching it. (Literally, watching it
    chew on the thing)...


    It's eaten chairs, doors...



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  • From Corey@VERT/TSGC to MARK FIRESTONE on Monday, January 24, 2005 07:13:00
    Re: PIC
    By: MARK FIRESTONE to Angus Mcleod on Mon Jan 24 2005 10:57 am


    --- SomeoneAngus Mcleod wrote ---
    You mean you haven't received any lovely crayon-on-CRT-monitor art yet?

    My kids are outgrowing that a bit, but I got them this dog... and it eats everything. I just paid out œ150 to repair two leather couches that it tried to eat... while the kids were watching it. (Literally, watching it chew on the thing)...


    It's eaten chairs, doors...




    the nextdoor german shepherd ate one of my cats last year.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Fro on Monday, January 24, 2005 14:53:59
    Re: PIC
    By: Fro to Digital Man on Sun Jan 23 2005 08:43 am

    My Toshiba is about 4 years old now, and I haven't had a minute's trou of it. Knock on wood.

    My Mitsu is a bit of 2 years old. It didn't really have issues until we m it last year (to our new house). It really does look great though. Blows the 42" Akai Plasma flat panel we just bought at Costo last week (traded- from a 30" Sceptre LCD that really looked/sounded poor).

    Sounded poor? Eh?

    We use the attached speakers for that set, yeah. The sound quality of the Akai speakers is *much* better.

    digital man

    Snapple "Real Fact" #110:
    Frogs never drink.

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  • From Fro@VERT/BRAZINET to Digital Man on Monday, January 24, 2005 21:44:00
    Re: PIC
    By: Digital Man to Fro on Mon Jan 24 2005 02:53 pm

    Re: PIC
    By: Fro to Digital Man on Sun Jan 23 2005 08:43 am

    My Toshiba is about 4 years old now, and I haven't had a minute's t of it. Knock on wood.

    My Mitsu is a bit of 2 years old. It didn't really have issues until w it last year (to our new house). It really does look great though. Blo the 42" Akai Plasma flat panel we just bought at Costo last week (trad from a 30" Sceptre LCD that really looked/sounded poor).

    Sounded poor? Eh?

    We use the attached speakers for that set, yeah. The sound quality of the Ak speakers is *much* better.

    digital man

    Snapple "Real Fact" #110:
    Frogs never drink.


    Oof. If I coughed up the money for an LCD, I sure would be using seperates for my audio. :)

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Fro on Monday, January 24, 2005 22:58:56
    Re: PIC
    By: Fro to Digital Man on Mon Jan 24 2005 09:44 pm

    My Toshiba is about 4 years old now, and I haven't had a minute' of it. Knock on wood.

    My Mitsu is a bit of 2 years old. It didn't really have issues unti it last year (to our new house). It really does look great though. the 42" Akai Plasma flat panel we just bought at Costo last week (t from a 30" Sceptre LCD that really looked/sounded poor).

    Sounded poor? Eh?

    We use the attached speakers for that set, yeah. The sound quality of the speakers is *much* better.

    Oof. If I coughed up the money for an LCD, I sure would be using seperates f my audio. :)

    "My audio" is in the living room (with my 65" Mitsu) powered by Harmon Kardon, Klipsch, and Polk Audio (connected with Monster Cable, of course).

    We will be putting a surround system in the Family room (where the flat panel TV resides) in the future, but it's not the primary TV/movie room, so it's not a priority. With 4 TVs in the house, it's not currently practical to have full surround sound on all of them. And the new Akai sounds surprisingly good, considering. :-)

    digital man

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    A duck's quack doesn't echo.

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  • From MARK FIRESTONE@VERT/QBBSTST to Corey on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 00:17:00
    --- Corey wrote ---
    the nextdoor german shepherd ate one of my cats last year.

    That's no good. I used to lose lots of cats but that was because there
    was this crazy lady that used to put anti-freeze out for them. We
    couldn't do much about it because in Arizona, it is legal to kill other people's cats if they are on your properity.

    If she had done in a dog, she might have gone to jail.


    Mark



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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MARK FIRESTONE on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 18:02:02
    Re: PIC
    By: MARK FIRESTONE to Corey on Wed Jan 26 2005 12:17 am


    --- Corey wrote ---
    the nextdoor german shepherd ate one of my cats last year.

    That's no good. I used to lose lots of cats but that was because there
    was this crazy lady that used to put anti-freeze out for them. We
    couldn't do much about it because in Arizona, it is legal to kill other people's cats if they are on your properity.

    If she had done in a dog, she might have gone to jail.

    Sick. Someone needed to feed that lady some anti-freeze!

    digital man

    Snapple "Real Fact" #76:
    The average person spends 2 years on the phone in his/her lifetime.

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  • From Angus Mcleod@VERT/ANJO to MARK FIRESTONE on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 00:56:00
    Re: PIC
    By: MARK FIRESTONE to Corey on Wed Jan 26 2005 00:17:00

    That's no good. I used to lose lots of cats but that was because there
    was this crazy lady that used to put anti-freeze out for them.

    Wow! That works? Good to know!!

    Only problem: Where to get anti-freeze on a tropical island...

    If she had done in a dog, she might have gone to jail.

    HANGING offense, surely?


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