this update screwed up the C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games folder
you gotta love Microshaft for all the money they take from us for crapware OS. >I'm to the point where I may just load Ubuntu on all but one of my PC's.

I long ago loaded debian-based distros on all of my pcs that matter. The
only one that has windows (98 !) is one that does not connect to the
internet. I use it only to play simcity on, and even it has a debian partition.

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Nightfox wrote to Jagossel <=-

I remember earlier versions of Windows let you burn that recovery data
to a DVD disc if you wanted to..
Just did a search and saw that Windows 10 should let you create a
recovery drive with a USB flash drive:
https://bit.ly/2yKazl2

I just use Macrium Reflect Free or CloneZilla to image the HDD to an image
file that I usually store on a dedicated portable 5200RPM USB drive.

That way, I can do with as I please to the system and put it back to factory state if I ever change my mind. I've never had a laptop where this didn't work, although there's always a first.


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Jagossel wrote to Denn <=-

More horror stories of data loss due to tbe forced updstes from
Microsoft. I have to wonder who's testing these patches before sending them out the door? I heard horror stories of the 10/2018 update wiping
out the user profile/home folder.

The October update mainly affected systems that used folder redirection.
For the most part, it pertained to systems where people install small SSD's
to house the OS for speed, and redirect their profile directories, Steam, etc. to a second drive, usually a large spin drive. There were a few other criterion that caused the glitch, but yeah, basically.

I was lucky in that the October update didn't affect my machines (I installed the update before it was pulled by MS). The November update was a different matter. They made updates to the AMD driver that conflicted with my HP
laptop making it unusable. I imaged my system, and installed Ubuntu.
I'll wait for the Spring updated before I reinstall Windows on this system again.


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Denn wrote to Jagossel <=-

this update screwed up the C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games
folder you gotta love Microshaft for all the money they take from us
for crapware OS. I'm to the point where I may just load Ubuntu on all
but one of my PC's.

I'm afraid a biannual release is too aggressive for them.


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Re: Re: Windows Update's took
By: Chai to Nightfox on Tue Dec 11 2018 08:53 pm

I just use Macrium Reflect Free or CloneZilla to image the HDD to an image file that I usually store on a dedicated portable 5200RPM USB drive.

That way, I can do with as I please to the system and put it back to factory state if I ever change my mind. I've never had a laptop where this didn't work, although there's always a first.

i tried clonezilla a few times and it failed both. i had nothing special on those desktops going on. just a harddrive with windows.

my harddrives are too big to image. i would rather reinstall windows and then run a script to install necessary programs that i use.
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Re: Re: Windows Update's took
By: MRO to Chai on Wed Dec 12 2018 12:12 am

i tried clonezilla a few times and it failed both. i had nothing special on those desktops going on. just a harddrive with windows.

I've used Clonezilla before and it usually works for me. We've also used it where I work to clone drives for some of our systems, and overall we've had fairly good luck with it (except it's not really easy to clone to a smaller drive).

my harddrives are too big to image. i would rather reinstall windows and then run a script to install necessary programs that i use.

That's an interesting idea. I know some installers have a "quiet" mode so
they can be automated, but not all of them do. Also, after installing everythigng fresh, I still have to go and change some of the settings to what I like (such as what programs to use to open photos and music, and the Windows power options for the monitor & hard drive, desktop background, etc.).

Nightfox

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Nightfox, to MRO...

my harddrives are too big to image. i would rather reinstall windows and then run a script to install necessary programs that i use.

That's an interesting idea. I know some installers have a "quiet" mode
so they can be automated, but not all of them do. Also, after
installing everythigng fresh, I still have to go and change some of the settings to what I like (such as what programs to use to open photos
and music, and the Windows power options for the monitor & hard drive, desktop background, etc.).

I've been through so many reimages at work, I just gave up and wrote a PowerShell script to install the software that I need and to customize
some applications. Among I have OneDrive available, I can easily recover
froma other reimaging.

Take a look at Chocolatey. It's built on top of Nuget package manager and
it allows you to install some software like you would in Linux using yum, apt-get, or pacman.

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Re: Re: Windows Update's took
By: Jagossel to Nightfox on Fri Dec 14 2018 10:36 pm

I've been through so many reimages at work, I just gave up and wrote a PowerShell script to install the software that I need and to customize some applications. Among I have OneDrive available, I can easily recover froma other reimaging.

Take a look at Chocolatey. It's built on top of Nuget package manager and it allows you to install some software like you would in Linux using yum, apt-get, or pacman.

I've heard of Chocolatey. I currently use Windows as my main OS at home though.

I have the Windows installers of the software I often use, though I'm not sure all of it could be scripted for an automated install. For instance, one of the programs I use sometimes is GoldWave (an audio editing application), and I just tried running it on the command line with /?, but it didn't output any command line help, it just started its manual GUI installer.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Windows Update's took
By: Nightfox to MRO on Fri Dec 14 2018 05:23 pm

everythigng fresh, I still have to go and change some of the settings to what I like (such as what programs to use to open photos and music, and the Windows power options for the monitor & hard drive, desktop background, etc.).

you can make .reg files that do that and for your desktop theme you can do a .theme file.
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Re: Re: Windows Update's took
By: Jagossel to Nightfox on Fri Dec 14 2018 10:36 pm

Take a look at Chocolatey. It's built on top of Nuget package manager and it allows you to install some software like you would in Linux using yum, apt-get, or pacman.

yeah, i love chocolatey. i just dont use it enough and i end up forgetting about it.
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Re: Re: Windows Update's took
By: Nightfox to Jagossel on Sat Dec 15 2018 12:57 am

Take a look at Chocolatey. It's built on top of Nuget package manager and it allows you to install some software like you would in Linux using yum, apt-get, or pacman.

I've heard of Chocolatey. I currently use Windows as my main OS at home though.

it runs on windows. it takes all the work out of installing stuff.
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Re: Re: Windows Update's took
By: MRO to Nightfox on Sat Dec 15 2018 03:36 pm

I've heard of Chocolatey. I currently use Windows as my main OS at
home though.

it runs on windows. it takes all the work out of installing stuff.

I guess I'll have to check it out. Does it have a database where it knows where to download and install all the software you like to use, or is that something you configure?

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Windows Update's took
By: Nightfox to MRO on Sat Dec 15 2018 06:24 pm

Re: Re: Windows Update's took
By: MRO to Nightfox on Sat Dec 15 2018 03:36 pm

I've heard of Chocolatey. I currently use Windows as my main OS at
home though.

it runs on windows. it takes all the work out of installing stuff.

I guess I'll have to check it out. Does it have a database where it knows where to download and install all the software you like to use, or is that something you configure?

it's compariable to apt-get
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Re: Re: Windows Update's took
By: Chai to Nightfox on Tue Dec 11 2018 20:53:00

I remember earlier versions of Windows let you burn that recovery data to a DVD disc if you wanted to..
Just did a search and saw that Windows 10 should let you create a recovery drive with a USB flash drive:
https://bit.ly/2yKazl2

I just use Macrium Reflect Free or CloneZilla to image the HDD to an image file that I usually store on a dedicated portable 5200RPM USB drive.

That way, I can do with as I please to the system and put it back to factory state if I ever change my mind. I've never had a laptop where this didn't work, although there's always a first.

Longtime Acronis user here. Have used it to backup AND RESTORE Windows XP, 7, 8.1 and Ubuntu 12 (don't use Ubuntu anymore). I also use an external HD
for imaging. Average restore time ~40 minutes (this does not include data,
I always use a separate partition for that). Important data gets backed up
to Dropbox. I like being able to restore my computer(s) to full functionality including all drivers and apps in under an hour using Acronis' bootable
media. I tried this using Windows 7 system restore and that took 2 hours. Please don't mistake this as an advertisement for Acronis' product, I was
a longtime Ghost user since the DOS days till it failed to restore an old XP machine I had. A backup is not a backup until you've successfully restored from it. Yes I am a drive imaging fanboi.

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Re: Re: Windows Update's took
By: Reverb to Chai on Wed Dec 19 2018 09:27 am

Longtime Acronis user here. Have used it to backup AND RESTORE Windows XP, 7, 8.1 and Ubuntu 12 (don't use Ubuntu anymore). I also use an external HD for imaging. Average restore time ~40 minutes (this does not include data,

yeah, acronis is good.
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