• Windows 10 Tracking

    From tracker1@VERT/TRNTEST to All on Wednesday, January 13, 2016 21:26:01
    Just in case anyone is holding off on using Windows 10 because of the tracking/metrics/telemetry issues...

    https://github.com/10se1ucgo/DisableWinTracking/

    Haven't tried it to test the validity.. my home desktop is my only windows machine left. The rest is Linux or OSX... my work issued laptop is OSX (Enterprise locked down OSX is annoying).

    Once I disabled cortana and the search box on the taskbar, I kind of like Windows 10... more of the rough edges are smoothed out, but may switch my shell to one of the other options that's closer to windows 7.. there's other parts of newer windows that I actively use (newer IIS and Hyper-V).
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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to tracker1 on Monday, February 01, 2016 21:32:00
    tracker1 wrote to All <=-

    Just in case anyone is holding off on using Windows 10 because of the tracking/metrics/telemetry issues...

    https://github.com/10se1ucgo/DisableWinTracking/

    I haven't upgraded to 10 yet. More of a "if it sin't broke, don't fix it" situation, but should take advantage of the free upgrade sometime.
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  • From Android8675@VERT/SHODAN to Vk3jed on Monday, February 01, 2016 12:43:55
    Re: Re: Windows 10 Tracking
    By: Vk3jed to tracker1 on Mon Feb 01 2016 09:32 pm

    https://github.com/10se1ucgo/DisableWinTracking/

    I haven't upgraded to 10 yet. More of a "if it sin't broke, don't fix it" situation, but should take advantage of the free upgrade sometime.

    I've enjoyed the system up until recently, that "automatic reboot" apparently there's NO way to bypass the auto restart, the fucker will schedule a reboot when it thinks you aren't using your system. Nevermind that Virtualbox isn't considered "using" your system.

    (I setup Virtualbox to start as a process which fixed the issue, but there's still that chance that Win10 will reboot when my VM is doing something, which sucks)

    Windows phoning home doesn't bother me, very dystopian, but I haven't had any black helecopters land on my front lawn yet, so I have that going for me.

    -A

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Android8675 on Monday, February 01, 2016 15:43:57
    Re: Re: Windows 10 Tracking
    By: Android8675 to Vk3jed on Mon Feb 01 2016 12:43 pm

    Re: Re: Windows 10 Tracking
    By: Vk3jed to tracker1 on Mon Feb 01 2016 09:32 pm

    https://github.com/10se1ucgo/DisableWinTracking/

    I haven't upgraded to 10 yet. More of a "if it sin't broke, don't fix it" situation, but should take advantage of the free upgrade sometime.

    I've enjoyed the system up until recently, that "automatic reboot" apparently there's NO way to bypass the auto restart, the fucker will schedule a reboot when it thinks you aren't using your system. Nevermind that Virtualbox isn't considered "using" your system.

    I have the same complaint (though not with Virtualbox).

    digital man

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Android8675 on Tuesday, February 02, 2016 15:35:00
    Android8675 wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I haven't upgraded to 10 yet. More of a "if it sin't broke, don't fix it" situation, but should take advantage of the free upgrade sometime.

    I've enjoyed the system up until recently, that "automatic reboot" apparently there's NO way to bypass the auto restart, the fucker will schedule a reboot when it thinks you aren't using your system.
    Nevermind that Virtualbox isn't considered "using" your system.

    I've heard mostly good things about Windows 10, so I'm not overly concerned, except for a couple of oddball drivers I have (like for RTL-SDR, etc).

    (I setup Virtualbox to start as a process which fixed the issue, but there's still that chance that Win10 will reboot when my VM is doing something, which sucks)

    That is a pain!

    Windows phoning home doesn't bother me, very dystopian, but I haven't
    had any black helecopters land on my front lawn yet, so I have that
    going for me.

    Yeah, I'm not particularly bothered about Windows phoning home either.
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  • From Timesoarer@VERT/DRAC to Vk3jed on Tuesday, February 02, 2016 12:45:22
    Re: Re: Windows 10 Tracking
    By: Vk3jed to tracker1 on Mon Feb 01 2016 09:32 pm

    Just in case anyone is holding off on using Windows 10 because of the tracking/metrics/telemetry issues...

    Made the move to Win10...Everything working great. Came accross issue with one game that a
    certain videomode doesn't work correctly other then that. Don't care what they want to track
    big deal.. what are they going to learn about me? what I search? ahh what ever.. look at all
    the big brother cameras there is outside.. can't avoid it. ISP would turn you over if
    requested anyway.. I don't think I do much to appeal to anyone to track what I'm doing.. What
    bothers me is the amount of commericials I have to watch.. even on Utube, directv.. drving me
    crazy... anyone heard and seen enough political ads? and then they invade my computer.

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Timesoarer on Tuesday, February 02, 2016 17:22:32
    Re: Re: Windows 10 Tracking
    By: Timesoarer to Vk3jed on Tue Feb 02 2016 12:45 pm

    Don't care what they want to track big deal.. what are they going to learn about me? what I search? ahh what ever.. look at all the big brother
    cameras there is outside.. can't avoid it. ISP would turn you over if


    that's the wrong attitude to have. everyone wants your information. it's valuable.
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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Timesoarer on Wednesday, February 03, 2016 08:42:00
    Timesoarer wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Made the move to Win10...Everything working great. Came accross issue with one game that a certain videomode doesn't work correctly other
    then that. Don't care what they want to track big deal.. what are they going to learn about me? what I search? ahh what ever.. look at all the big brother cameras there is outside.. can't avoid it. ISP would turn

    Yeah, as I said, the tracking doesn't bother me either. If it was, I'd be 100% Linux already. :)

    you over if requested anyway.. I don't think I do much to appeal to
    anyone to track what I'm doing.. What bothers me is the amount of commericials I have to watch.. even on Utube, directv.. drving me
    crazy... anyone heard and seen enough political ads? and then they
    invade my computer.

    Agree, commercials are over the top, and the implementation on some services (like catch up TV) is just awful, being out of sync with the main program and adding horrendous delays, because the ad is sourced separately from the main program.
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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Android8675 on Monday, February 01, 2016 19:46:24
    Hello Android8675,

    On 01 Feb 16 12:43, Android8675 wrote to Vk3jed:

    I haven't upgraded to 10 yet. More of a "if it sin't broke, don't
    fix it" situation, but should take advantage of the free upgrade
    sometime.

    I've enjoyed the system up until recently, that "automatic reboot" apparently there's NO way to bypass the auto restart, the fucker will schedule a reboot when it thinks you aren't using your system.
    Nevermind that Virtualbox isn't considered "using" your system.

    There's the same option to disable automatic reboots in Windows 10. I've done that here and I get a notification saying updates were installed and it *needs*
    a reboot to finish. With that I can safely close down anything that's running and reboot when I want to.

    Start > Settings > Windows Update > Advanced Options > Choose how updates are installed

    I have this set to "Notify to schedule restart".

    Windows phoning home doesn't bother me, very dystopian, but I haven't
    had any black helecopters land on my front lawn yet, so I have that
    going for me.

    I've disabled any and all reasons for MS to send information to itself during the OS install as well as them sending me information and/or email. I'll leave them alone, and they can leave me alone. :)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Accession on Thursday, February 04, 2016 16:36:48
    Re: Re: Windows 10 Tracking
    By: Accession to Android8675 on Mon Feb 01 2016 07:46 pm

    Hello Android8675,

    On 01 Feb 16 12:43, Android8675 wrote to Vk3jed:

    I haven't upgraded to 10 yet. More of a "if it sin't broke, don't
    fix it" situation, but should take advantage of the free upgrade
    sometime.

    I've enjoyed the system up until recently, that "automatic reboot" apparently there's NO way to bypass the auto restart, the fucker will schedule a reboot when it thinks you aren't using your system. Nevermind that Virtualbox isn't considered "using" your system.

    There's the same option to disable automatic reboots in Windows 10. I've done that here and I get a notification saying updates were installed and it *needs*
    a reboot to finish. With that I can safely close down anything that's running and reboot when I want to.

    Start > Settings > Windows Update > Advanced Options > Choose how updates are installed

    I have this set to "Notify to schedule restart".

    So do I and yet Windows 10 will still auto-reboot to apply updates, eventually.

    digital man

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  • From Android8675@VERT/SHODAN to Digital Man on Thursday, February 04, 2016 15:47:52
    Re: Re: Windows 10 Tracking
    By: Digital Man to Android8675 on Mon Feb 01 2016 03:43 pm

    I've enjoyed the system up until recently, that "automatic reboot"
    apparently there's NO way to bypass the auto restart, the fucker will
    schedule a reboot when it thinks you aren't using your system.
    Nevermind that Virtualbox isn't considered "using" your system.

    I have the same complaint (though not with Virtualbox).

    You have a preference? I'm likeing VB because it's the only one I can get DesqView/X to work on. (I'm sick)

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  • From Android8675@VERT/SHODAN to Mro on Thursday, February 04, 2016 15:48:48
    Re: Re: Windows 10 Tracking
    By: Mro to Timesoarer on Tue Feb 02 2016 05:22 pm

    Don't care what they want to track big deal.. what are they going to
    learn about me? what I search? ahh what ever.. look at all the big
    brother cameras there is outside.. can't avoid it. ISP would turn you
    over if

    that's the wrong attitude to have. everyone wants your information. it's valuable.

    I agree, wish I could get paid for giving it up.

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  • From Android8675@VERT/SHODAN to Accession on Thursday, February 04, 2016 15:55:01
    Re: Re: Windows 10 Tracking
    By: Accession to Android8675 on Mon Feb 01 2016 07:46 pm

    There's the same option to disable automatic reboots in Windows 10. I've done that here and I get a notification saying updates were installed and it *needs* a reboot to finish. With that I can safely close down anything that's running and reboot when I want to.

    Start > Settings > Windows Update > Advanced Options > Choose how updates are installed

    I have this set to "Notify to schedule restart".

    Me too, still reboots when it "Thinks" you aren't using your system. I think the logic goes like this:

    Well, I just installed some updates...

    Display message, "Attention user, please schedule a restart and I have to install a stupid patch ASAP!"

    I notified the "user" that he needs to schedule a restart, but he hasn't touched his keyboard and mouse for hours.

    I'll just assume I can restart at 2am when I know he won't mind.

    There's a group policy "hack"/setting that's supposed to make it NOT restart, period, but it still does the same thing. Now if I go into the control panel all the update options are greyed out, so whatever.

    It's a good OS, my games look sweet and they run nicely on my old Core2Quad chipset. So I have no complaints there, just wish the OS was a little less controlling.

    -A.

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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Digital Man on Thursday, February 04, 2016 19:47:51
    Hello Digital,

    On 04 Feb 16 16:36, Digital Man wrote to Accession:

    There's the same option to disable automatic reboots in Windows 10.
    I've done that here and I get a notification saying updates were
    installed and it *needs* a reboot to finish. With that I can safely
    close down anything that's running and reboot when I want to.

    Start > Settings > Windows Update > Advanced Options > Choose how
    updates are installed

    I have this set to "Notify to schedule restart".

    So do I and yet Windows 10 will still auto-reboot to apply updates, eventually.

    I haven't had that happen to me yet. Though I don't let it go more than a couple days after it notifies me it needs a reboot.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From tracker1@VERT/TRNTEST to Android8675 on Friday, February 05, 2016 23:55:49
    I've enjoyed the system up until recently, that "automatic reboot" apparently there's NO way to bypass the auto restart, the fucker will schedule a reboot when it thinks you aren't using your system. Nevermind that Virtualbox isn't considered "using" your system.

    (I setup Virtualbox to start as a process which fixed the issue, but
    there's
    still that chance that Win10 will reboot when my VM is doing something, which sucks)

    If you have pro, hyper-v is built in and may work better than virtualbox,
    ymmv though. I've got a couple VMs set to autostart with the desktop (and
    auto shutdown).
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  • From tracker1@VERT/TRNTEST to Accession on Saturday, February 06, 2016 00:00:20
    I've disabled any and all reasons for MS to send information to itself
    during the OS install as well as them sending me information and/or email. I'll leave them alone, and they can leave me alone. :)

    For me the biggest pita is keeping my local login/account instead of the MS federated one...
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  • From tracker1@VERT/TRNTEST to Android8675 on Saturday, February 06, 2016 00:02:15
    that's the wrong attitude to have. everyone wants your information.
    it's valuable.

    I agree, wish I could get paid for giving it up.

    You are... it pays for your web searches, the results, hosting your email (presuming you use a free email service), your social networks, all the cat videos you can watch... You aren't paid cash for it, but you are paid in the services the information pays for.
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  • From Android8675@VERT/SHODAN to tracker1 on Saturday, February 06, 2016 09:56:26
    Re: Re: Windows 10 Tracking
    By: tracker1 to Android8675 on Fri Feb 05 2016 11:55 pm

    If you have pro, hyper-v is built in and may work better than virtualbox, ymmv though. I've got a couple VMs set to autostart with the desktop (and auto shutdown).

    Yeah, played with Hyper-V a bit. I should learn more about it, I want to use it at my office so our servers aren't so hard to restore when hardware crashes occur, but our head IT lady is stupid, and prefers when we go down for days because she only gets the big payout during downtime. (I digress)

    Planning to use Hyper-V when I get my next computer. Been eyeballing a new 6gen i5 system with a M.2 SSD. Probably gonna keep my old system running stripped down for the BBS. Waiting for tax refund probably. :)

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  • From tracker1@VERT/TRNTEST to Android8675 on Sunday, February 07, 2016 00:09:57
    Planning to use Hyper-V when I get my next computer. Been eyeballing a new 6gen i5 system with a M.2 SSD. Probably gonna keep my old system running stripped down for the BBS. Waiting for tax refund probably. :)

    Upped my desktop to an i7-4790K 32gb ram, 3x 512gb ssd, Back in june and been very happy with it... Though been considering getting a faster m.2, but not sure if it's worth it... The mb has a slot for it.
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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to tracker1 on Sunday, February 07, 2016 07:16:38
    Re: Re: Windows 10 Tracking
    By: tracker1 to Accession on Sat Feb 06 2016 12:00 am

    For me the biggest pita is keeping my local login/account instead of the MS federated one...

    Because it keeps promoting you to switch? Mine does every time I enter a password somewhere.

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  • From Ladybrit@VERT/CASCADSS to Android8675 on Sunday, February 07, 2016 11:06:45
    Re: Re: Windows 10 Tracking
    By: Android8675 to tracker1 on Sat Feb 06 2016 09:56 am

    Re: Re: Windows 10 Tracking
    By: tracker1 to Android8675 on Fri Feb 05 2016 11:55 pm

    If you have pro, hyper-v is built in and may work better than virtualbo ymmv though. I've got a couple VMs set to autostart with the desktop (a auto shutdown).

    Yeah, played with Hyper-V a bit. I should learn more about it, I want to use at my office so our servers aren't so hard to restore when hardware crashes occur, but our head IT lady is stupid, and prefers when we go down for days because she only gets the big payout during downtime. (I digress)

    Planning to use Hyper-V when I get my next computer. Been eyeballing a new 6 i5 system with a M.2 SSD. Probably gonna keep my old system running stripped down for the BBS. Waiting for tax refund probably. :)

    Im loving Hyper-V i use it here on my server and I also use it on my Windows 10 pro machine its very easy to configure and seems more stable than vmware and other virtual box softwares

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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to Ladybrit on Sunday, February 07, 2016 12:15:53
    Re: Re: Windows 10 Tracking
    By: Ladybrit to Android8675 on Sun Feb 07 2016 11:06 am

    Im loving Hyper-V i use it here on my server and I also use it on my Windows 10 pro machine its very easy to configure and seems more stable than vmware and other virtual box softwares

    I'm looking into it now... Sounds intriguing. Wondering how it would run on a Core 2 Duo running low-overhead VMs. I see a lot about running Windows 10 VMs inside of Windows 10, need to know more about running other OSes as guests.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to All on Sunday, February 07, 2016 20:07:34
    Re: Re: Windows 10 Tracking
    By: Poindexter Fortran to Ladybrit on Sun Feb 07 2016 12:15:53

    For anyone who uses Windows 10 and are concerned about your privacy, this looks like a useful software tool that disables services in Windows 10 that track your data:
    https://github.com/10se1ucgo/DisableWinTracking/releases

    Nightfox

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  • From Android8675@VERT/SHODAN to tracker1 on Tuesday, February 09, 2016 15:34:06
    Re: Re: Windows 10 Tracking
    By: tracker1 to Android8675 on Sun Feb 07 2016 12:09 am

    Planning to use Hyper-V when I get my next computer. Been eyeballing a
    new 6gen i5 system with a M.2 SSD. Probably gonna keep my old system
    running stripped down for the BBS. Waiting for tax refund probably. :)

    Upped my desktop to an i7-4790K 32gb ram, 3x 512gb ssd, Back in june and been very happy with it... Though been considering getting a faster m.2, but not sure if it's worth it... The mb has a slot for it.

    i've heard amazing stories about the Samsung 95x series. I've never considered a i7, seems the i5 is more than enough. I can use the extra $100 to put towards a slightly better video card.

    32Gb ram seems excessive. Having the room to expand that way is nice, and I guess if I was rendering or something. 16gb, an M.2, a 4+tb drive and a 16TB NAS (friend gave me his old Drobo+Macmini server, LOVE it.) should do the trick.

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  • From Android8675@VERT/SHODAN to Ladybrit on Tuesday, February 09, 2016 15:34:58
    Re: Re: Windows 10 Tracking
    By: Ladybrit to Android8675 on Sun Feb 07 2016 11:06 am

    Im loving Hyper-V i use it here on my server and I also use it on my Windows 10 pro machine its very easy to configure and seems more stable than vmware and other virtual box softwares

    Core2Quad processor doesn't work with Hyper-V, VirutalBox does, so....

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  • From Android8675@VERT/SHODAN to Poindexter Fortran on Tuesday, February 09, 2016 15:36:56
    Re: Re: Windows 10 Tracking
    By: Poindexter Fortran to Ladybrit on Sun Feb 07 2016 12:15 pm

    I'm looking into it now... Sounds intriguing. Wondering how it would run on a Core 2 Duo running low-overhead VMs. I see a lot about running Windows 10 VMs inside of Windows 10, need to know more about running other OSes as guests.

    Boned dude, CPU needs something like SAPL something ability to work with Hyper-V, Core i3-i7 or equivalent probably.

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  • From tracker1@VERT/TRNTEST to Poindexter Fortran on Friday, February 12, 2016 20:16:47
    I'm looking into it now... Sounds intriguing. Wondering how it would run
    on a Core 2 Duo running low-overhead VMs. I see a lot about running
    Windows 10 VMs inside of Windows 10, need to know more about running
    other OSes as guests.

    Should run fine, I'm running an Ubuntu Server VM with Docker, and it seems pretty good... I do most of my development *in* the VM (via SSH), while I
    edit in windows (CIFS/Samba Share).
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  • From tracker1@VERT/TRNTEST to Android8675 on Friday, February 12, 2016 20:20:57
    i've heard amazing stories about the Samsung 95x series. I've never considered a i7, seems the i5 is more than enough. I can use the extra
    $100 to put towards a slightly better video card.

    32Gb ram seems excessive. Having the room to expand that way is nice,
    and I guess if I was rendering or something. 16gb, an M.2, a 4+tb drive
    and a 16TB NAS (friend gave me his old Drobo+Macmini server, LOVE it.) should do the trick.

    I'm running a lot of servers/services virtually, and tend to use the memory more than the CPU. I could probably get by with 16GB i5, but then again, my prior two systems were pretty peppy, but it wasn't much to max out the ram.
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  • From tracker1@VERT/TRNTEST to Android8675 on Friday, February 12, 2016 20:21:35
    Core2Quad processor doesn't work with Hyper-V, VirutalBox does, so....

    Didn't know Core2s werent supported...
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  • From Mark Hofmann@VERT/TCP to Tracker1 on Saturday, February 13, 2016 09:34:00
    I'm running a lot of servers/services virtually, and tend to use the
    memory more than the CPU. I could probably get by with 16GB i5, but then again, my prior two systems were pretty peppy, but it wasn't much to max
    out the ram. --

    Yes, in most cases when you start running many VM, it is the RAM that gets maxed out before the CPU. I just recently upgraded my ESXi server from 72GB of
    RAM to 144GB.

    That should hold me off for awhile. The other thing that can come into play is
    disk i/o. The more spindles, the better. Caching controllers is a must and an
    8 drive array helps.

    - Mark

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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to tracker1 on Saturday, February 13, 2016 09:10:39
    Re: Re: Windows 10 Tracking
    By: tracker1 to Android8675 on Fri Feb 12 2016 08:21 pm

    Didn't know Core2s werent supported...

    Guess I'm SOL, but I bought another 8 gb of RAM for my desktop to bring it up to 16, and VMWare or VirtualBox work well.

    I'm tempted to move the BBS back here in a VM, but we have frequent power outages where I am -- 3 since September, the most recent this morning. Between that and concerns about Windows 7 rebooting itself after patches I need to do some work before I'm comfortable running the BBS in a VM.

    At my old house, under Windows 7 - rock solid.

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  • From tracker1@VERT/TRNTEST to Android8675 on Saturday, February 13, 2016 17:17:17
    I'm looking into it now... Sounds intriguing. Wondering how it would
    run on a Core 2 Duo running low-overhead VMs. I see a lot about running
    Windows 10 VMs inside of Windows 10, need to know more about running
    other OSes as guests.

    Boned dude, CPU needs something like SAPL something ability to work with Hyper-V, Core i3-i7 or equivalent probably.

    Bummer... it's a shame, because a C2D/Quad is definitely fast enough. I
    don't think I've had a desktop upgrade since my C2D that I've felt I *HAD* to upgrade... and that was several back. Short of 4K gaming, there's not much need for something new compared to mid-high end systems from 4-5 years ago... except maybe a newer video card, more ram and/or an SSD.. but the CPUs have been plenty fast for a while.
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    Michael J. Ryan
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  • From tracker1@VERT/TRNTEST to Poindexter Fortran on Saturday, February 13, 2016 17:18:55
    Didn't know Core2s werent supported...

    Guess I'm SOL, but I bought another 8 gb of RAM for my desktop to bring it
    up to 16, and VMWare or VirtualBox work well.

    I'm tempted to move the BBS back here in a VM, but we have frequent power outages where I am -- 3 since September, the most recent this morning. Between that and concerns about Windows 7 rebooting itself after patches I need to do some work before I'm comfortable running the BBS in a VM.

    At my old house, under Windows 7 - rock solid.

    As long as the VM is set to start with the system, and has the client tools
    to shut down with the system, you should be okay... though I'd recommend investing in a UPS if you have *ANY* concerns about power.
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Poindexter Fortran on Sunday, February 14, 2016 10:45:48
    Re: Re: Windows 10 Tracking
    By: Poindexter Fortran to tracker1 on Sat Feb 13 2016 09:10 am

    I'm tempted to move the BBS back here in a VM, but we have frequent power outages where I am -- 3 since September, the most recent this morning. Between that and concerns about Windows 7 rebooting itself after patches I need to do some work before I'm comfortable running the BBS in a VM.



    why dont you get a cheap UPS? also you can disable the auto updates and do them when you are ready.
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  • From Mark Hofmann@VERT/TCP to Tracker1 on Sunday, February 14, 2016 08:54:19
    As long as the VM is set to start with the system, and has the client
    tools to shut down with the system, you should be okay... though I'd recommend investing in a UPS if you have *ANY* concerns about power.

    Yes and if you have an APC UPS with SNMP management, you can run a VM that will
    automatically shutdown your VMs before the UPS battery runs out. I use that under ESXi.

    Basically, if the UPS detects a power loss it will wait 5 minutes and then start shutting down all the VMs.

    - Mark

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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to tracker1 on Monday, February 15, 2016 09:47:29
    Re: Re: Windows 10 Tracking
    By: tracker1 to Poindexter Fortran on Sat Feb 13 2016 05:18 pm

    As long as the VM is set to start with the system, and has the client tools to shut down with the system, you should be okay... though I'd recommend investing in a UPS if you have *ANY* concerns about power.

    I have a dumb desktop UPS now, mostly because I leave the desktop off when I'm not using it. When I turn it into a VM host, I'll need to rethink that.

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  • From Android8675@VERT/SHODAN to tracker1 on Friday, February 26, 2016 10:36:38
    Re: Re: Windows 10 Tracking
    By: tracker1 to Android8675 on Fri Feb 12 2016 08:21 pm

    Core2Quad processor doesn't work with Hyper-V, VirutalBox does, so....

    Didn't know Core2s werent supported...

    Me either until I tried to install the feature on Win10, option was greyed out, went online, yeah need some SIDE processes or something that's in ix processors.

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  • From tracker1@VERT/TRNTEST to Android8675 on Wednesday, March 02, 2016 08:34:41
    Core2Quad processor doesn't work with Hyper-V, VirutalBox does, so....

    Didn't know Core2s werent supported...

    Me either until I tried to install the feature on Win10, option was greyed out, went online, yeah need some SIDE processes or something that's in ix processors.

    Had a system that had Vx disabled via the system vendor's version of the BIOS (HP), the place I was working at bought consumer PCs then installed clean
    OSes over the vendor version... was kind of sad to see that... VMWare still worked, but not nearly as well as it should have.
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  • From ROBERT WOLFE@VERT/WILDCAT to VK3JED on Tuesday, March 01, 2016 22:33:00
    Just in case anyone is holding off on using Windows 10 because of tracking/metrics/telemetry issues...

    https://github.com/10se1ucgo/DisableWinTracking/

    The SpyBot people have one better, IMO.
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