So, here's a strange issue in Windows that I just found recently.. I found this with Windows 7, so I'm not sure if other versions of Windows do it too. It won't let you create files with names that start with a period. Some programs (mainly ones that originated in the *nix world) use a configuration file that starts with a period - For instance, Vim uses a configuration file called .vimrc. However, if you try to create a file with a name like that in Windows, Windows shows the error message "You must type a file name." Even though you just did.. So, does anyone know how to configure Windows to allow such filenames?

Nightfox

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Re: Windows invalid filenames
By: Nightfox to All on Wed Oct 26 2011 06:35 pm

So, here's a strange issue in Windows that I just found recently.. I found this with Windows 7, so I'm not sure if other versions of Windows do it too. It won't let you create files with names that start with a period. Some programs (mainly ones that originated in the *nix world) use a configuration file that starts with a period - For instance, Vim uses a configuration file called .vimrc. However, if you try to create a file with a name like that i Windows, Windows shows the error message "You must type a file name." Even though you just did.. So, does anyone know how to configure Windows to allo such filenames?

Nightfox

yep. only unix/linux did that.

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Re: Windows invalid filenames
By: Nightfox to All on Wed Oct 26 2011 06:35 pm

So, here's a strange issue in Windows that I just found recently.. I found this with Windows 7, so I'm not sure if other versions of Windows do it
too. It won't let you create files with names that start with a period.
Some programs (mainly ones that originated in the *nix world) use a configuration file that starts with a period - For instance, Vim uses a configuration file called .vimrc. However, if you try to create a file
with a name like that in Windows, Windows shows the error message "You must type a file name." Even though you just did.. So, does anyone know how to configure Windows to allow such filenames?

Works here (on NTFS):

echo blah > .blah

dir .blah

Volume in drive C has no label.
Volume Serial Number is D8E4-4092

Directory of C:\

10/26/2011 11:03 PM 7 .blah

Perhaps you're using FAT32 or some other file system that doesn't allow such naming?

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Re: Windows invalid filenames
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Oct 26 2011 23:03:23

Hey Nightfox, DM,

So, here's a strange issue in Windows that I just found recently.. I

Works here (on NTFS):

echo blah > .blah

This is a limitation in the UI, not in the NTFS filesystem itself.

While the GUI won't let you do that, it does work if you create them via another route as DM's done.

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Re: Windows invalid filenames
By: Nightfox to All on Wed Oct 26 2011 06:35 pm

So, here's a strange issue in Windows that I just found recently.. I found
this with Windows 7, so I'm not sure if other versions of Windows do it too. It won't let you create files with names that start with a period. Some programs (mainly ones that originated in the *nix world) use a configuration file that starts with a period - For instance, Vim uses a configuration file called .vimrc. However, if you try to create a file with a name like that in Windows, Windows shows the error message "You must
type a file name." Even though you just did.. So, does anyone know how to
configure Windows to allow such filenames?

Works here (on NTFS):

echo blah > .blah

dir .blah

Volume in drive C has no label.
Volume Serial Number is D8E4-4092

Directory of C:\

10/26/2011 11:03 PM 7 .blah

Perhaps you're using FAT32 or some other file system that doesn't allow such naming?

If you are creating the file in Windows Explorer, it doesn't allow it
(XP, NTFS here). Ie. right click, New, Text Document, attempt to name
.blah . The work around is to create it from prompt. :o

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Re: Windows invalid filenames
By: Nightfox to All on Wed Oct 26 2011 06:35 pm

So, here's a strange issue in Windows that I just found recently.. I found this with Windows 7, so I'm not sure if other versions of Windows do it too. It won't let you create files with names that start with a period. Some programs (mainly ones that originated in the *nix world) use a configuration file that starts with a period - For instance, Vim uses a configuration file called .vimrc. However, if you try to create a file with a name like that i Windows, Windows shows the error message "You must type a file name." Even though you just did.. So, does anyone know how to configure Windows to allo such filenames?

Nightfox

You might have get the source code and comment out the function that is

int Make_Unix_Incompatible(void)


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Re: Windows invalid filenames
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Oct 26 2011 23:03:23

Works here (on NTFS):

echo blah > .blah

dir .blah

Volume in drive C has no label.
Volume Serial Number is D8E4-4092

Directory of C:\

10/26/2011 11:03 PM 7 .blah

Perhaps you're using FAT32 or some other file system that doesn't allow such naming?

I'm using NTFS. I figured that something like what you suggest would work, but I was trying to create a new file by right-clicking, then selecting New > Text Document, and calling it something like .blah. That -should- let you create the file with that name, but I guess for some reason Microsoft has decided that Windows shouldn't let that happen.

Nightfox

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Re: Windows invalid filenames
By: Boraxman to Nightfox on Thu Oct 27 2011 20:05:33

You might have get the source code and comment out the function that is

int Make_Unix_Incompatible(void)

Ah, true.. Another issue is that the "void" is not necessary - If the function takes no command arguments, it is more clearly declared with an empty parameter list, as follows:
int Make_Unix_Incompatible()

Nightfox

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Re: Windows invalid filenames
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Thu Oct 27 2011 09:32 pm

I'm using NTFS. I figured that something like what you suggest would work, but I was trying to create a new file by right-clicking, then selecting New

Text Document, and calling it something like .blah. That -should- let

you create the file with that name, but I guess for some reason Microsoft has decided that Windows shouldn't let that happen.

Try putting quotes around the file name.

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Re: Windows invalid filenames
By: Deuce to Nightfox on Fri Oct 28 2011 02:37:03

but I was trying to create a new file by right-clicking, then selecting N

Text Document, and calling it something like .blah. That -should- let

you create the file with that name, but I guess for some reason Microsoft has decided that Windows shouldn't let that happen.

Try putting quotes around the file name.

Windows Explorer won't let you put quotes into filenames when renaming a file.

Nightfox

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Re: Windows invalid filenames
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Thu Oct 27 2011 09:32 pm

I'm using NTFS. I figured that something like what you suggest would work, I was trying to create a new file by right-clicking, then selecting New > Te Document, and calling it something like .blah. That -should- let you create the file with that name, but I guess for some reason Microsoft has decided t Windows shouldn't let that happen.

Report it to M$ as a bug. They need some damn work to do, anyway. :)

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Re: Windows invalid filenames
By: Access Denied to Nightfox on Fri Oct 28 2011 07:30 pm

Re: Windows invalid filenames
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Thu Oct 27 2011 09:32 pm

I'm using NTFS. I figured that something like what you suggest would wor I was trying to create a new file by right-clicking, then selecting New > Document, and calling it something like .blah. That -should- let you cre the file with that name, but I guess for some reason Microsoft has decide Windows shouldn't let that happen.

Report it to M$ as a bug. They need some damn work to do, anyway. :)

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Re: Windows invalid filenames
By: Nightfox to All on Wed Oct 26 2011 18:35:04

So, here's a strange issue in Windows that I just found recently.. I found this with Windows 7, so I'm not sure if other versions of Windows do it too. It won't let you create files with names that start with a period. Some programs (mainly ones that originated in the *nix world) use a configuration file that starts with a period - For instance, Vim uses a configuration file called .vimrc. However, if you try to create a file with a name like that i Windows, Windows shows the error message "You must type a file name." Even though you just did.. So, does anyone know how to configure Windows to allo such filenames?

Nightfox

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Re: Windows invalid filenames
By: Corey to Access Denied on Fri Oct 28 2011 11:22 pm

Report it to M$ as a bug. They need some damn work to do, anyway. :)

and they will fix it. and rename it, and sell us the new fixed version.

Sell it to who? I am not part of this "us" you speak of. :)

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Re: Windows invalid filenames
By: Access Denied to Corey on Sat Oct 29 2011 05:31 pm

Re: Windows invalid filenames
By: Corey to Access Denied on Fri Oct 28 2011 11:22 pm

Report it to M$ as a bug. They need some damn work to do, anyway. :)

and they will fix it. and rename it, and sell us the new fixed version.

Sell it to who? I am not part of this "us" you speak of. :)

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Re: Windows invalid filenames
By: Corey to Access Denied on Fri Oct 28 2011 23:22:09

Re: Windows invalid filenames
By: Access Denied to Nightfox on Fri Oct 28 2011 07:30 pm

the file with that name, but I guess for some reason Microsoft has dec Windows shouldn't let that happen.

Report it to M$ as a bug. They need some damn work to do, anyway. :)

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Not really a bug. ".blah" When creating it from explorer windows is looking for the first part of the filename. By default it should be filename.extension so when you put .blah windows is looking for the filename as it views the .blah as the extension.

DOS / command shell doesn't care what you name the file. You don't have the same issue in other OS's as they don't view file names in the same way.

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Re: Windows invalid filenames
By: Access Denied to Nightfox on Fri Oct 28 2011 07:30 pm

Re: Windows invalid filenames
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Thu Oct 27 2011 09:32 pm

I'm using NTFS. I figured that something like what you suggest would wor I was trying to create a new file by right-clicking, then selecting New > Document, and calling it something like .blah. That -should- let you cre the file with that name, but I guess for some reason Microsoft has decide Windows shouldn't let that happen.

Report it to M$ as a bug. They need some damn work to do, anyway. :)

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