• people are gross

    From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to All on Tuesday, July 19, 2022 20:02:32
    With people trying to forget about covid and get back to normal i think the old habits are back.

    today i was in training and a guy from another state was the presenter and he had a horrible cough. he didn't think he had to cover his mouth. he didn't think he had to wear a mask. so he coughed all day long on us sometimes pretending to cough on his elbow but really coughing into the air.

    that was fucking disgusting.

    also the person i was stuck with last week was very sick and she told me i would get sick too. she had no mask. we were stuck driving together all day.
    so i am sick as hell now with a sore throat.

    people are disgusting. it didn't take long to revert back.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to All on Wednesday, July 20, 2022 09:50:53
    Re: people are gross
    By: MRO to All on Tue Jul 19 2022 08:02 pm

    With people trying to forget about covid and get back to normal i think the old habits are back.

    today i was in training and a guy from another state was the presenter and he had a horrible cough. he didn't think he had to cover his mouth. he


    welp, i got covid again.

    i tested negative monday night but tuesday i tested positive.
    good times.
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  • From Phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to MRO on Wednesday, July 20, 2022 16:54:31
    Re: people are gross
    By: MRO to All on Wed Jul 20 2022 09:50 am

    welp, i got covid again.

    Sorry to hear. It sucks! Eat your oranges and chicken soup.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Wednesday, July 20, 2022 11:36:00
    MRO wrote to All <=-

    With people trying to forget about covid and get back to normal i think the old habits are back.

    today i was in training and a guy from another state was the presenter and he had a horrible cough. he didn't think he had to cover his mouth. he

    welp, i got covid again.

    Stop licking the stripper poles.



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  • From Greenlfc@VERT/BEERS20 to MRO on Wednesday, July 20, 2022 10:58:00
    I mean, I agree that people are gross, but are people just going to whine every time they get the sniffles from here out?

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  • From esc@VERT/MONTEREY to MRO on Wednesday, July 20, 2022 19:29:00
    welp, i got covid again.

    Ouch, rest up. Sorry man.

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  • From Kaelon@VERT to MRO on Wednesday, July 20, 2022 13:15:31
    Re: people are gross
    By: MRO to All on Tue Jul 19 2022 08:02 pm

    also the person i was stuck with last week was very sick and she told me i would get sick too. she had no mask. we were stuck driving together all day. so i am sick as hell now with a sore throat.

    people are disgusting. it didn't take long to revert back.

    I agree. When we went into Covid lockdowns and picked up more sanity habits - like covering your mouth / masking, social distancing, and basic hygiene - it occurred to me just how disgustingly so many people live their lives.

    Like, since when was it ever okay to blow out candles (spit and all) on a birthday cake that the entire family and friend group is going to eat?!

    Gross.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Phigan on Wednesday, July 20, 2022 15:22:33
    Re: people are gross
    By: Phigan to MRO on Wed Jul 20 2022 04:54 pm

    Re: people are gross
    By: MRO to All on Wed Jul 20 2022 09:50 am

    welp, i got covid again.



    Sorry to hear. It sucks! Eat your oranges and chicken soup.


    since i reported the very first day where i coughed a few times a day,
    i am now going back in 1-2 days.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Greenlfc on Wednesday, July 20, 2022 15:25:41
    Re: Re: people are gross
    By: Greenlfc to MRO on Wed Jul 20 2022 10:58 am

    I mean, I agree that people are gross, but are people just going to whine every time they get the sniffles from here out?

    make sure you quote.

    and if you are sick, you really shouldn't be at work if you are around people. it's not right coming in sick when your coworkers go home to children and the elderly.

    if you cough, you should cover your mouth and not cough on people.

    It's not whining to ask these things. Maybe we DO need to change how we look at everything because when something REALLY bad comes.... MAYBE we will be a little prepared for it.

    i said this before. my mom died at 62 of covid. she's the first woman in the family we know of that died that young. the women in my family lived into their 90s. they are tough bitches.

    we need to stop trying to smooth shit over and try to move on. it's not working.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Wednesday, July 20, 2022 15:59:00
    welp, i got covid again.

    i tested negative monday night but tuesday i tested positive.
    good times.

    I hate being around dumbass people like that. For the time being we are
    still on work-from-home 4/5ths of the work-week. As people are becoming
    more lax, I enjoy that.


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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MINDS3 to MRO on Thursday, July 21, 2022 08:53:24
    Re: Re: people are gross
    By: MRO to Greenlfc on Wed Jul 20 2022 03:25 pm

    I mean, I agree that people are gross, but are people just going to whine every time they get the sniffles from here out?

    make sure you quote.

    and if you are sick, you really shouldn't be at work if you are around people. it's not right coming in sick when your coworkers go home to children and the elderly.

    if you cough, you should cover your mouth and not cough on people.

    It's not whining to ask these things. Maybe we DO need to change how we look at everything because when something REALLY bad comes.... MAYBE we will be a little prepared for it.

    i said this before. my mom died at 62 of covid. she's the first woman in the family we know of that died that young. the women in my family lived into their 90s. they are tough bitches.

    we need to stop trying to smooth shit over and try to move on. it's not working.

    You shouldn't be at work, but then again, it may be a major problem if you don't turn up, such as if you are the only one on your team who is not on leave and your job is the difference between whether the company releases something to market on time or not.

    And if some people "soldier on", it sets a precedent for others. I worry that if I don't turn up because I'm sick, that somehow I'll be "flagged". I still stay home, but it plays on ones mind.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Boraxman on Wednesday, July 20, 2022 18:45:53
    Re: Re: people are gross
    By: Boraxman to MRO on Thu Jul 21 2022 08:53 am

    You shouldn't be at work, but then again, it may be a major problem if you don't turn up, such as if you are the only one on your team who is not on leave and your job is the difference between whether the company releases something to market on time or not.

    And if some people "soldier on", it sets a precedent for others. I worry that if I don't turn up because I'm sick, that somehow I'll be "flagged". I still stay home, but it plays on ones mind.

    so if dipshit one comes to work sick, then all the other dipshits get sick and get sick enough to take off. then the boss dipshit gets sick.

    it would have been better to lose 1 guy to a 3 day weekend than a whole team of people taking off over 2 weeks.

    this is part of my theory of someone fucking it up for everyone. there are people who call in when they arent sick and then it creates an environment where you can't take off of work for the sake of yourself and others.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, July 20, 2022 16:48:50
    Re: people are gross
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Wed Jul 20 2022 03:59 pm

    i tested negative monday night but tuesday i tested positive.
    good times.

    I hate being around dumbass people like that. For the time being we are still on work-from-home 4/5ths of the work-week. As people are becoming more lax, I enjoy that.

    At the place where I work, the owner of the company really wants us to be in the office, even though we could easily work from home most of the time (sometimes we do have to come in because we sometimes have devices and equipment at the office we need to use, but not all the time). There are times when I feel like it would be nice not to have to not have to go anywhere and just work from home.

    Nightfox

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MINDS3 to MRO on Thursday, July 21, 2022 15:03:48
    Re: Re: people are gross
    By: MRO to Boraxman on Wed Jul 20 2022 06:45 pm

    so if dipshit one comes to work sick, then all the other dipshits get sick and get sick enough to take off. then the boss dipshit gets sick.

    it would have been better to lose 1 guy to a 3 day weekend than a whole team of people taking off over 2 weeks.

    this is part of my theory of someone fucking it up for everyone. there are people who call in when they arent sick and then it creates an environment where you can't take off of work for the sake of yourself and others.

    Thats the thing, if people have expressed a sentiment of "he's faking it" or "he's probably at the footy", then you want to be sure you're really sick before you take time off.

    Sure, you can got the doctors note, but one doesn't go to the doctor everytime they catch a cold, do they? GP's have better things to do with their time.

    Where I work now is good, but I've worked at other places where upper management would likely interpret certain actions as "weakness".

    In the 1980's, Johnson and Johnson would sell their Codral product with the line "Soldier on with Codral". The ads showed people being sick, taking the product and "soldering on" at work despite still being infectious. You can get an idea of the mentality here. Now that is the 80's, sure a long time ago, but some older bosses are still in that era and would view the 'namby pampy' later trends as weakness and shirking duty due to bad excuses.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Thursday, July 21, 2022 05:34:29
    Re: people are gross
    By: MRO to All on Tue Jul 19 2022 08:02 pm

    people are disgusting. it didn't take long to revert back.
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  • From Greenlfc@VERT/BEERS20 to MRO on Thursday, July 21, 2022 06:56:00
    On 20 Jul 2022, MRO said the following...

    make sure you quote.

    Not really a need to quote when you're addressing the first post of a thread and not going point by point.

    and if you are sick, you really shouldn't be at work if you are around people. it's not right coming in sick when your coworkers go home to children and the elderly.

    It's not ideal, but people have also been doing it forever. That's how we as a society build our collective immune systems.

    if you cough, you should cover your mouth and not cough on people.

    Yes, that's common courtesy.

    It's not whining to ask these things. Maybe we DO need to change how we

    It kind of is. Certainly one would hope peer pressure would get people to be more responsible, but as an individual you need to take responsibility for yourself.

    i said this before. my mom died at 62 of covid. she's the first woman

    I'm sorry to hear that. The only two 'rona deaths in my extended circle
    were in their 60s and 40s and had comorbidities / extra factors.

    we need to stop trying to smooth shit over and try to move on. it's not working.

    Yeah, it is. Here in the middle of the country, aside from the occasional person that's masked, nobody is taking any special post-2020 precautions and we're doing just fine. We cannot internalize the culture of fear that the media and the government (both administrations) has built. A populace that is afraid or angry is easy to manipulate.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Boraxman on Thursday, July 21, 2022 09:11:50
    Re: Re: people are gross
    By: Boraxman to MRO on Thu Jul 21 2022 03:03 pm

    Thats the thing, if people have expressed a sentiment of "he's faking it" or "he's probably at the footy", then you want to be sure you're really sick before you take time off.

    What is "at the footy"?

    Nightfox

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Thursday, July 21, 2022 07:41:00
    Hello MRO!

    ** On Tuesday 19.07.22 - 20:02, MRO wrote to All:

    today i was in training and a guy from another state was
    the presenter and he had a horrible cough. he didn't think
    he had to cover his mouth. he didn't think he had to wear a
    mask. so he coughed all day long on us sometimes
    pretending to cough on his elbow but really coughing into
    the air.

    Did you speak up about it as you do here? Then, couldn't have
    you and the rest of the people just walk out in disgust and
    concern? (for your health/safety)


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Boraxman on Thursday, July 21, 2022 15:24:33
    Re: Re: people are gross
    By: Boraxman to MRO on Thu Jul 21 2022 03:03 pm

    environment where you can't take off of work for the sake of yourself and others.

    Thats the thing, if people have expressed a sentiment of "he's faking it" or "he's probably at the footy", then you want to be sure you're really sick before you take time off.

    i'm off with covid right now. they wanted me to take 1 day off and come back. i reported the first time i thought i had it which was when i had a weird cough once in a while. then next day it was worse and i thought i had a cold. i tested and it was negative. then day 3 i knew something was up so i tested and it was positive.

    we went from overdoing it and giving people weeks off to giving people days off due to the cdc 'guidelines'.


    dude emailed me the following morning after i reported it and asked me if i was feeling better. i'm like wtf this shit just kicked in.

    I feel like they think i'm faking it, but whatever. they shouldnt have stuck me with someone with symptoms.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Greenlfc on Thursday, July 21, 2022 15:27:48
    Re: Re: people are gross
    By: Greenlfc to MRO on Thu Jul 21 2022 06:56 am

    On 20 Jul 2022, MRO said the following...

    make sure you quote.

    Not really a need to quote when you're addressing the first post of a thread and not going point by point.


    yeah you should quote everytime. there's several msgs in this msg base.


    It's not ideal, but people have also been doing it forever. That's how we as a society build our collective immune systems.

    i built my immune system in gradeschool.

    we need to stop trying to smooth shit over and try to move on. it's not working.

    Yeah, it is. Here in the middle of the country, aside from the occasional person that's masked, nobody is taking any special post-2020 precautions and we're doing just fine. We cannot internalize the culture of fear that the

    I don't mean that. i mean people are still getting covid, it's not going away. we are just using the media to change people's focus. people got sick of hearing about covid so we don't hear about it anymore.


    media and the government (both administrations) has built. A populace that is afraid or angry is easy to manipulate.


    too late for that. we are already there.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Thursday, July 21, 2022 15:28:06
    Re: Re: people are gross
    By: Nightfox to Boraxman on Thu Jul 21 2022 09:11 am

    Re: Re: people are gross
    By: Boraxman to MRO on Thu Jul 21 2022 03:03 pm

    Thats the thing, if people have expressed a sentiment of "he's faking it" or "he's probably at the footy", then you want to be sure you're really sick before you take time off.

    What is "at the footy"?


    it's like a whorehouse for foot fetish people.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Thursday, July 21, 2022 15:30:07
    Re: people are gross
    By: Ogg to MRO on Thu Jul 21 2022 07:41 am

    pretending to cough on his elbow but really coughing into
    the air.

    Did you speak up about it as you do here? Then, couldn't have
    you and the rest of the people just walk out in disgust and

    I asked him about his cough and he got a weird look on his face.
    "Hey, where'd you get that cough from?" He said it was probably from being
    on an airplane with strangers. Then I said ahhh.
    I knew he had covid. it's a covid cough.

    I made sure i kept distance from him.

    I didn't stand up and grab a pitchfork. He's middle mgmt and I'm new.
    You can't really do shit about other people's behaviors or lack of manners.

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  • From Belly@VERT/BRAZINET to MRO on Thursday, July 21, 2022 15:51:12
    Re: people are gross
    By: MRO to All on Tue Jul 19 2022 08:02 pm

    people are disgusting. it didn't take long to revert back.

    For once, you and I are in total agreement over something. People like that are the reason that we're still dealing with this mess years later.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Thursday, July 21, 2022 14:08:22
    Re: Re: people are gross
    By: MRO to Boraxman on Thu Jul 21 2022 03:24 pm

    i'm off with covid right now. they wanted me to take 1 day off and come back. i reported the first time i thought i had it which was when i had a

    we went from overdoing it and giving people weeks off to giving people days off due to the cdc 'guidelines'.

    dude emailed me the following morning after i reported it and asked me if i was feeling better. i'm like wtf this shit just kicked in.

    And a couple years ago, they were saying people would have to quarantine for 10 days (or was it 2 weeks?) before being safe to be around other people again..?

    Nightfox

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Thursday, July 21, 2022 15:42:00
    I hate being around dumbass people like that. For the time being we are still on work-from-home 4/5ths of the work-week. As people are becoming more lax, I enjoy that.

    At the place where I work, the owner of the company really wants us to be in t
    office, even though we could easily work from home most of the time (sometime
    we do have to come in because we sometimes have devices and equipment at the o
    ice we need to use, but not all the time). There are times when I feel like i
    would be nice not to have to not have to go anywhere and just work from home.

    Some of our upper management would like us all back in, too. Based on some things they've said, I suspect it is because they want to be able to hunt people down and fuss at them for whatever is bothering them.

    They think that COVID is over. They also seem to think that ID Theft and
    fraud do not exist, if that tells you anything.


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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to MRO on Thursday, July 21, 2022 18:00:56
    Re: Re: people are gross
    By: MRO to Greenlfc on Wed Jul 20 2022 03:25 pm

    I mean, I agree that people are gross, but are people just going to
    whine every time they get the sniffles from here out?

    make sure you quote.

    and if you are sick, you really shouldn't be at work if you are around people. it's not right coming in sick when your coworkers go home to children and the elderly.

    I was out at the grocery store a couple days ago, and there was some lady walking along, coughing without even pretending to cover her mouth.

    I've gone back to wearing a mask when I'm out in public indoors. So far I've been lucky enough not to have it (I've tested multiple times every time I've had anything that resembles a cold, and I've always been negative), but I don't want to bring it home to my wife who is immune-compromised and super high risk, nor my father who is currently in hospice.

    DaiTengu

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Thursday, July 21, 2022 18:25:23
    Re: Re: people are gross
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Thu Jul 21 2022 02:08 pm

    Re: Re: people are gross
    By: MRO to Boraxman on Thu Jul 21 2022 03:24 pm

    i'm off with covid right now. they wanted me to take 1 day off and come back. i reported the first time i thought i had it which was when i had a

    we went from overdoing it and giving people weeks off to giving people days off due to the cdc 'guidelines'.

    dude emailed me the following morning after i reported it and asked me if i was feeling better. i'm like wtf this shit just kicked in.

    And a couple years ago, they were saying people would have to quarantine for 10 days (or was it 2 weeks?) before being safe to be around other people again..?


    people and companies want something to blindly follow. that's why they go with part of the cdc guidelines. the thing is, it can vary greatly due to the person and their response to the virus. it can be 10 days total.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Thursday, July 21, 2022 18:32:47
    Re: people are gross
    By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Thu Jul 21 2022 03:42 pm

    I hate being around dumbass people like that. For the time being we are still on work-from-home 4/5ths of the work-week. As people are becoming more lax, I enjoy that.

    At the place where I work, the owner of the company really wants us to be in t
    office, even though we could easily work from home most of the time (sometime
    we do have to come in because we sometimes have devices and equipment at the o
    ice we need to use, but not all the time). There are times when I feel like i
    would be nice not to have to not have to go anywhere and just work from home.

    Some of our upper management would like us all back in, too. Based on some things they've said, I suspect it is because they want to be able to hunt people down and fuss at them for whatever is bothering them.

    They think that COVID is over. They also seem to think that ID Theft and fraud do not exist, if that tells you anything.

    well from what i've read about it, productivity wise, working from home demonstrated successfully.

    middle managment usually did not like remote workers because it created more work for them. they had to spend time tracking, and they had a poor time adjusting to managing remote workers.
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Thursday, July 21, 2022 18:39:00
    MRO wrote to Ogg <=-

    pretending to cough on his elbow but really coughing into
    the air.

    Did you speak up about it as you do here? Then, couldn't have
    you and the rest of the people just walk out in disgust and

    I asked him about his cough and he got a weird look on his face.
    "Hey, where'd you get that cough from?" He said it was probably
    from being on an airplane with strangers. Then I said ahhh.
    I knew he had covid. it's a covid cough.

    I made sure i kept distance from him.

    And yet.... you also got covid.

    I didn't stand up and grab a pitchfork. He's middle mgmt and I'm
    new. You can't really do shit about other people's behaviors or
    lack of manners.

    So you did nothing. You cannot do shit about other people's behaviors
    if you say/do nothing, that is true. You could have done something but
    chose not to.

    Bitching about it here in DoveNet doesn't count as anything.



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to DaiTengu on Thursday, July 21, 2022 22:27:56
    Re: Re: people are gross
    By: DaiTengu to MRO on Thu Jul 21 2022 06:00 pm

    I've gone back to wearing a mask when I'm out in public indoors. So far I've been lucky enough not to have it (I've tested multiple times every time I've had anything that resembles a cold, and I've always been negative), but I don't want to bring it home to my wife who is immune-compromised and super high risk, nor my father who is currently in hospice.

    DaiTengu

    well this new one is so damn contagious it's going to be super hard to avoid. since last year i was working in a place that was getting covid cases all the time. i never got it. I was also wearing a mask and gloves at all times, but I think the thing about this new omnicron is it gets you even if you have antibodies or the vaccine.

    "BA.5 seems to be the most contagious version to date and is causing most current COVID-19 cases in the US

    Why it matters
    BA.5 is causing more reinfection in people who already had COVID-19, including earlier versions of omicron. It's also evading immunity from the vaccines."

    we need to take a real proactive approach to eliminating this virus. it's not going to go away and it can mutate into something much worse.

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Thursday, July 21, 2022 19:59:00
    Hello MRO!

    ** On Thursday 21.07.22 - 15:30, MRO wrote to Ogg:

    Did you speak up about it as you do here? Then, couldn't
    have you and the rest of the people just walk out in
    disgust and

    I asked him about his cough and he got a weird look on his
    face. "Hey, where'd you get that cough from?" He said it
    was probably from being on an airplane with strangers.
    Then I said ahhh. I knew he had covid. it's a covid cough.

    I made sure i kept distance from him.

    You would have been fine to just walk out collectively with the
    rest of the class.

    I didn't stand up and grab a pitchfork. He's middle mgmt
    and I'm new. You can't really do shit about other people's
    behaviors or lack of manners.

    If you feared losing your job over this, you're probably wrong.
    You could file a wrongfull dismissal claim and sue your way to
    a little wealth.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Friday, July 22, 2022 01:09:19
    Re: people are gross
    By: Ogg to MRO on Thu Jul 21 2022 07:59 pm

    behaviors or lack of manners.

    If you feared losing your job over this, you're probably wrong.
    You could file a wrongfull dismissal claim and sue your way to
    a little wealth.

    i'm in a right to work state so they can fire you for anything as long as they're not discriminating. it's best not to make waves.

    i got my point across.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Nightfox on Thursday, July 21, 2022 22:43:00
    Re: Re: people are gross
    By: Nightfox to Boraxman on Thu Jul 21 2022 09:11 am

    Re: Re: people are gross
    By: Boraxman to MRO on Thu Jul 21 2022 03:03 pm

    Thats the thing, if people have expressed a sentiment of "he's faking i or "he's probably at the footy", then you want to be sure you're really sick before you take time off.

    What is "at the footy"?

    Nightfox

    Soccer arena or soccer game

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Friday, July 22, 2022 07:58:00
    Hello MRO!

    ** On Thursday 21.07.22 - 15:24, MRO wrote to Boraxman:

    dude emailed me the following morning after i reported it
    and asked me if i was feeling better. i'm like wtf this
    shit just kicked in.

    I feel like they think i'm faking it, but whatever. they
    shouldnt have stuck me with someone with symptoms. -+-

    Offer to personally cough into his face if he would not
    hesitate to stand facing you. But.. get him to sign a waiver
    first! :D


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Friday, July 22, 2022 14:29:59
    Re: people are gross
    By: Ogg to MRO on Fri Jul 22 2022 07:58 am

    Offer to personally cough into his face if he would not
    hesitate to stand facing you. But.. get him to sign a waiver
    first! :D

    oh they know i have it. i had to get a lab test.
    they just wanted me back in 1 day. i ended up getting 3 days off.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Friday, July 22, 2022 16:16:00
    well from what i've read about it, productivity wise, working from home demons
    ated successfully.

    middle managment usually did not like remote workers because it created more w
    k for them. they had to spend time tracking, and they had a poor time adjustin
    to managing remote workers.

    In our case, it is an upper manager in our organization (which, I guess, is
    a middle manager in the whole) who never adjusted and I suspect did not
    want to.

    OTOH, one of my more immediate middle managers seemed not to like it at
    first, and was in the office a lot. I hardly ever see them now on the days
    I am in. I think they adjusted. :)


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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MINDS3 to Nightfox on Saturday, July 23, 2022 09:49:05
    Re: Re: people are gross
    By: Nightfox to Boraxman on Thu Jul 21 2022 09:11 am


    What is "at the footy"?


    At a sports game. Footy = Football.

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MINDS3 to MRO on Saturday, July 23, 2022 09:59:46
    Re: Re: people are gross
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Jul 21 2022 06:25 pm

    And a couple years ago, they were saying people would have to quarantine for 10 days (or was it 2 weeks?) before being safe to be around other people again..?


    people and companies want something to blindly follow. that's why they go with part of the cdc guidelines. the thing is, it can vary greatly due to the person and their response to the virus. it can be 10 days total.

    It's 7 days here in Melbourne. Odd, we had the world record for longest lockdown at some time, then when things got out of control and the lockdowns were on the nose, they just wound back all restrictions. Now the hospitals ARE overwhelmed and life is back to normal?!?

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Saturday, July 23, 2022 14:25:00
    Re: people are gross
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Fri Jul 22 2022 04:16 pm

    well from what i've read about it, productivity wise, working from home de ated successfully.

    middle managment usually did not like remote workers because it created mo k for them. they had to spend time tracking, and they had a poor time adju to managing remote workers.

    In our case, it is an upper manager in our organization (which, I guess, is a middle manager in the whole) who never adjusted and I suspect did not
    want to.

    OTOH, one of my more immediate middle managers seemed not to like it at first, and was in the office a lot. I hardly ever see them now on the days I am in. I think they adjusted. :)


    * SLMR 2.1a * Arnold Layne, don't do it again!


    I can';t recall which company it was, but some exec said employees who would love to stay working at home have a job, but those coming into work have a career and a future at the company. Let's see how HR and employee concerns handles claims of employees when promotions and raises do not happen or are less than expected.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dumas Walker on Friday, July 22, 2022 07:39:00
    Dumas Walker wrote to NIGHTFOX <=-

    Some of our upper management would like us all back in, too. Based on some things they've said, I suspect it is because they want to be able
    to hunt people down and fuss at them for whatever is bothering them.

    Insecure upper management thinks that people are pulling one over on them by not working from home.

    Poor management manages for effort, not results.

    Neither lack of skill lends itself well to capably managing remote teams.


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Tuesday, August 16, 2022 12:08:50
    Re: people are gross
    By: MRO to All on Wed Jul 20 2022 09:50 am

    welp, i got covid again.

    I got it twice myself, in the span of 6 weeks. Survived (obviously). I see you have too. :-)
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Tuesday, August 16, 2022 14:45:51
    Re: people are gross
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Tue Aug 16 2022 12:08 pm

    Re: people are gross
    By: MRO to All on Wed Jul 20 2022 09:50 am

    welp, i got covid again.

    I got it twice myself, in the span of 6 weeks. Survived (obviously). I see you have too. :-)

    my job wanted me to go back in 1-2 days. freaking nuts.
    I'm still feeling tired and weak. this current one is very contagious.
    i just hope it doesn't evolve to be more deadly.
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