• Heatwave

    From The Millionaire@VERT to All on Thursday, August 12, 2021 07:23:15
    How is everyone handling the heat these days? This is our 3rd heatwave this summer and hopefully the last. P.S.: Thanks to Global Warming / Climate Change, we will not survive as human beings if this get any worse. You can bet on that one for sure. <shrug>

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  • From Thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to The Millionaire on Thursday, August 12, 2021 10:58:00
    The Millionaire wrote to All <=-

    How is everyone handling the heat these days? This is our 3rd heatwave this summer and hopefully the last. P.S.: Thanks to Global Warming / Climate Change, we will not survive as human beings if this get any
    worse. You can bet on that one for sure. <shrug>

    Well.... In my area this is just normal. I can remember years way hotter for longer periods of time. About the only difference is the drought and fires.



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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Thumper on Thursday, August 12, 2021 13:01:55
    Well.... In my area this is just normal. I can remember years way hotter for longer periods of time. About the only difference is the drought and fires.

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    Up here where I live, Summers are hot but getting hotter each year now. Which is not something I'm used to.

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  • From paulie420@VERT/BEERS20 to The Millionaire on Thursday, August 12, 2021 14:57:00
    How is everyone handling the heat these days? This is our 3rd heatwave this summer and hopefully the last. P.S.: Thanks to Global Warming / Climate Change, we will not survive as human beings if this get any
    worse. You can bet on that one for sure. <shrug>

    $ The Millionaire $

    I've been in Portland, OR for a couple years - having moved from Austin, TX... we have experienced a few record-breaking hot spells this summer... its 105 today.

    While, coming from Texas, even these heatwaves seem mild - I have to remember that I'm in a completely different weather zone. And while I do hear and understand others who say 'this is normal, I've seen worse'... I think that we're well past the 'global warming isn't a thing' stages. Every single region is hotter than it was when we were kids - in a BIG way.

    I agree that global warming is a [bad] thing, and that the world is changing... I don't think we're goners - but I do think we need to start addressing it with technology NOW.

    Electric vehicles... go.
    Green energy... go.

    I'm sick and tired of the 'God's plan' and people unwilling to.... to look at NUMBERS and DATA that prove this fact.

    We need to change this around, so that we don't do MORE damage to Earth.



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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to paulie420 on Thursday, August 12, 2021 15:27:30
    I've been in Portland, OR for a couple years - having moved from Austin, TX... we have experienced a few record-breaking hot spells this summer... its 105 today.

    While, coming from Texas, even these heatwaves seem mild - I have to remember that I'm in a completely different weather zone. And while I do hear and understand others who say 'this is normal, I've seen worse'... I think that we're well past the 'global warming isn't a thing' stages. Every single region is hotter than it was when we were kids - in a BIG way.

    I agree that global warming is a [bad] thing, and that the world is changing... I don't think we're goners - but I do think we need to start addressing it with technology NOW.

    Electric vehicles... go.
    Green energy... go.

    I'm sick and tired of the 'God's plan' and people unwilling to.... to look at NUMBERS and DATA that prove this fact.

    We need to change this around, so that we don't do MORE damage to Earth.

    |07p|15AULIE|1142|07o
    |08.........


    The Earth's core has already broken off. So that shows how much irreparable damage we have caused. Our icebergs in the Arctic are also melting at a drastic rate. Pray to God that we struggle to survive somehow.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to The Millionaire on Thursday, August 12, 2021 21:33:00
    The Millionaire wrote to All <=-

    How is everyone handling the heat these days? This is our 3rd
    heatwave this summer and hopefully the last. P.S.: Thanks to
    Global Warming / Climate Change, we will not survive as human
    beings if this get any worse. You can bet on that one for sure.
    <shrug>

    Slurp some more Koolaid.



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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to The Millionaire on Thursday, August 12, 2021 21:37:00
    The Millionaire wrote to paulie420 <=-

    We need to change this around, so that we don't do MORE damage to Earth.

    The Earth's core has already broken off.

    The core broke off? How would that be possible? Where did it go?

    So that shows how much irreparable damage we have caused.

    It does? How does a non-sensical statement "show" anything?


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to paulie420 on Friday, August 13, 2021 08:29:03
    Re: Re: Heatwave
    By: paulie420 to The Millionaire on Thu Aug 12 2021 02:57 pm

    I've been in Portland, OR for a couple years - having moved from Austin, TX... we have experienced a few record-breaking hot spells this summer... its 105 today.

    I'm in the Portland, OR area too. I don't like hot weather, and I haven't enjoyed these heat waves.

    I agree that global warming is a [bad] thing, and that the world is changing... I don't think we're goners - but I do think we need to start addressing it with technology NOW.

    Electric vehicles... go.
    Green energy... go.

    I'm sick and tired of the 'God's plan' and people unwilling to.... to look at NUMBERS and DATA that prove this fact.

    We need to change this around, so that we don't do MORE damage to Earth.

    I'm wondering how fast we could change things. I'm not sure the technology is quite up there yet to fully replace fossil fuels. However, for cars at least, I'd think they could put in a system for quickly exchanging batteries and/or develop hydrogen fuel cell technology.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Friday, August 13, 2021 08:31:07
    Re: Re: Heatwave
    By: The Millionaire to paulie420 on Thu Aug 12 2021 03:27 pm

    The Earth's core has already broken off. So that shows how much irreparable damage we have caused. Our icebergs in the Arctic are also

    Wait, what? How does a planet's core "break off"? Did Earth's core somehow get removed from the center of the earth? Is the earth now hollow?

    Nightfox

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Nightfox on Friday, August 13, 2021 12:16:49
    Re: Re: Heatwave
    By: Nightfox to paulie420 on Fri Aug 13 2021 08:29 am

    I'm wondering how fast we could change things. I'm not sure the technology is quite up there yet to fully replace fossil fuels. However, for cars at least, I'd think they could put in a system for quickly exchanging batteries and/or develop hydrogen fuel cell technology.

    We have the technology and ability to build safe nuclear power plants TODAY. The Oil and Gas industry has everyone convinced that nuclear is "scary" when the truth is it's far safer to build and operate than any other modern form of electrical generation.

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  • From Thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to Nightfox on Friday, August 13, 2021 13:05:00
    Nightfox wrote to The Millionaire <=-

    Re: Re: Heatwave
    By: The Millionaire to paulie420 on Thu Aug 12 2021 03:27 pm

    The Earth's core has already broken off. So that shows how much irreparable damage we have caused. Our icebergs in the Arctic are also

    Wait, what? How does a planet's core "break off"? Did Earth's core somehow get removed from the center of the earth? Is the earth now hollow?

    Nightfox


    I did just read they found a rock on Mars that is made up of the same materials as the Earths Core..... ;)


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to DaiTengu on Friday, August 13, 2021 21:53:00
    DaiTengu wrote to Nightfox <=-

    I'm wondering how fast we could change things. I'm not sure the technology is quite up there yet to fully replace fossil fuels. However, for cars at least, I'd think they could put in a system for quickly exchanging batteries and/or develop hydrogen fuel cell technology.

    We have the technology and ability to build safe nuclear power
    plants TODAY. The Oil and Gas industry has everyone convinced
    that nuclear is "scary" when the truth is it's far safer to build
    and operate than any other modern form of electrical generation.

    Absolutely right. One thing you left out is that it is also FAR more green/clean. Barring an accident, the only emission is.... water vapor
    from the cooling towers.

    And before you tree huggers chime in and tell how worried you are about
    an accident, the odds of that happening are so close to ZERO that it's
    not worth talking about. Yeah, Three Mile Island and Chernobyl, I know. Things have come a long way since TMI, and Chernobyl was caused by
    idiots and lax standards, in another country.



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to DaiTengu on Saturday, August 14, 2021 01:27:50
    Re: Re: Heatwave
    By: DaiTengu to Nightfox on Fri Aug 13 2021 12:16 pm


    We have the technology and ability to build safe nuclear power plants TODAY. The Oil and Gas industry has everyone convinced that nuclear is "scary" when the truth is it's far safer to build and operate than any other modern form of electrical generation.

    DaiTengu

    yeah it is pretty safe. i worked in the oil and gas industry for 20 years. they arent scared of nuclear power. they are occupied with their cyclical existance of ups and downs that have existed since the industry began.
    I had an inside perspective and first hand knowledge of how an entire year would go for our industry and others. they were alway right. not once did I hear them talk about nuclear power.

    regular people do not want to be near a nuclear power plant.
    i wouldn't want to live next to one.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Thumper on Saturday, August 14, 2021 01:34:51
    Re: Re: Heatwave
    By: Thumper to Nightfox on Fri Aug 13 2021 01:05 pm

    Nightfox wrote to The Millionaire <=-

    Re: Re: Heatwave
    By: The Millionaire to paulie420 on Thu Aug 12 2021 03:27 pm

    The Earth's core has already broken off. So that shows how much irreparable damage we have caused. Our icebergs in the Arctic are also

    Wait, what? How does a planet's core "break off"? Did Earth's core somehow get removed from the center of the earth? Is the earth now hollow?

    Nightfox


    I did just read they found a rock on Mars that is made up of the same materials as the Earths Core..... ;)



    we dont even know what the fuck is in the earth's core. it could be anything or nothing. we can't even drill that far down. the deepest we have drilled is a bit over 40k feet.

    we dont know if it's solid, or liquid or both. some people think there's radioactive elements inside. from a science standpoint we dont really know much about anything.
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Saturday, August 14, 2021 07:49:00
    MRO wrote to Thumper <=-

    I did just read they found a rock on Mars that is made up of the same materials as the Earths Core..... ;)

    we dont even know what the fuck is in the earth's core. it could
    be anything or nothing. we can't even drill that far down. the
    deepest we have drilled is a bit over 40k feet.

    Where did you go to school?
    Wait...... *DID* you ever go to school?
    Or... at what grade level did you drop out?

    we dont know if it's solid, or liquid or both. some people think
    there's radioactive elements inside.

    We know the answers to all of that. Well, "we" doesn't include "you", apparently.

    from a science standpoint we dont really know much about anything.

    See above regarding "we".

    Sheesh.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Saturday, August 14, 2021 10:46:00
    Wait, what? How does a planet's core "break off"? Did Earth's core somehow g
    removed from the center of the earth? Is the earth now hollow?

    I am also awaiting an explanation of this one. Sounds like he either got "core" mixed up with some atmospheric term, or he has been reading some
    serious green conspiracy theory.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to GAMGEE on Saturday, August 14, 2021 10:55:00
    And before you tree huggers chime in and tell how worried you are about
    an accident, the odds of that happening are so close to ZERO that it's
    not worth talking about. Yeah, Three Mile Island and Chernobyl, I know. Things have come a long way since TMI, and Chernobyl was caused by
    idiots and lax standards, in another country.

    And then there is Fukishima. The problem I have with them is that they are almost always near water and, if there is an accident, it is almost always
    a cluster.

    There are some cleaner forms of nuclear fission that actually are close to
    ZERO when it comes to risk. On the day that Chernobyl happened, the US was testing a reactor that, when something starts to go out of control, it
    shuts itself down. The test was a success but was overshadowed by the Chernobyl black eye.

    There are also some that involve recycling the "spent" waste that was used
    to enrich plutonium back in the 1940s/50s. That waste is still around and still a radioactive hazard. There are also some others that could use less-harzardous materials while still generating reactions (and power).

    There was an episode of NOVA three or four years back that covered
    alternative nuclear power that was very interesting.

    For some reason, those who are in the US nuclear field appear to be not that interested in these alternatives. Maybe it is not only the gas, oil, and
    tree hugger interests that are pulling strings.


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Dumas Walker on Saturday, August 14, 2021 16:06:00
    Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-

    And before you tree huggers chime in and tell how worried you are about
    an accident, the odds of that happening are so close to ZERO that it's
    not worth talking about. Yeah, Three Mile Island and Chernobyl, I know. Things have come a long way since TMI, and Chernobyl was caused by
    idiots and lax standards, in another country.

    And then there is Fukishima. The problem I have with them is
    that they are almost always near water and, if there is an
    accident, it is almost always a cluster.

    Ahhh, yes, forgot about that one. Agreed. I still think nuclear is a
    valid option for power generation that should be expanding rather than shrinking.

    <SNIP>

    For some reason, those who are in the US nuclear field appear to
    be not that interested in these alternatives. Maybe it is not
    only the gas, oil, and tree hugger interests that are pulling
    strings.

    Yes, that is indeed a strange thing. I don't see much pro-nuke
    "advertising" or promotional efforts, that's for sure.



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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Gamgee on Saturday, August 14, 2021 18:10:43
    Re: Re: Heatwave
    By: Gamgee to Dumas Walker on Sat Aug 14 2021 04:06 pm

    Yes, that is indeed a strange thing. I don't see much pro-nuke "advertising" or promotional efforts, that's for sure.


    In College I found some. Usually from villages that had Nuclear Power Plants in full operation and
    wanted to keep them working becuase of the jobs they generate. I even have a promotional folder I
    use for keeping my papers together from time to time.

    The thing with advertisement efforts is that you usually can only advertise what the government
    wants you to advertise. For one, the government only gives you money for advertising things they
    like. For another, if you try to advertise anything else they start throwing administrative
    obstacles at you. A recent example: when a Spanish non-profit started an advertising campaign that
    claimed that "There are girls with penises," another non-profit launched a counter campaign that
    claimed "Girls have vulvas, boys have penises." The second non-profit had their status as a public
    interest non-profit cancelled instantaneously which cut them off tax deductions and funding.

    The bottom line is that sometimes you don't see promotional efforts for things because they will
    chop your head off if you try to promote them :-)


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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to MRO on Sunday, August 15, 2021 08:30:12
    Re: Re: Heatwave
    By: MRO to DaiTengu on Sat Aug 14 2021 01:27 am

    We have the technology and ability to build safe nuclear power plants
    TODAY. The Oil and Gas industry has everyone convinced that nuclear is


    regular people do not want to be near a nuclear power plant.
    i wouldn't want to live next to one.

    Me neither. I live on Long Island. They pulled the plug on a nuclear power plant halfway through construction because if a disaster happened it would be too difficult to get everyone off the Island safely. Nuclear power plants are not imune to natural disasters such as earthquakes ,hurricans, severe tornado's or tsunami's. How quickly we forget events like the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster in 2011. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_Daiichi_nuclear_disaster

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to HusTler on Sunday, August 15, 2021 11:23:08
    Re: Re: Heatwave
    By: HusTler to MRO on Sun Aug 15 2021 08:30 am

    regular people do not want to be near a nuclear power plant.
    i wouldn't want to live next to one.

    Me neither. I live on Long Island. They pulled the plug on a nuclear power plant halfway through construction because if a disaster happened it would be too difficult to get everyone off the Island safely. Nuclear power plants are not imune to natural disasters such as earthquakes ,hurricans, severe tornado's or tsunami's. How quickly we forget events like the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster in 2011. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_Daiichi_nuclear_disaster


    yeah, it just takes one time.
    i heard that they are constantly painting in nuclear plants. it's to hold back the radiation.

    anyways, it is safe stuff. and you can recycle a lot of the by products.
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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to MRO on Sunday, August 15, 2021 12:37:41
    Re: Re: Heatwave
    By: MRO to DaiTengu on Sat Aug 14 2021 01:27 am

    yeah it is pretty safe. i worked in the oil and gas industry for 20 years. they arent scared of nuclear power. they are occupied with their cyclical existance of ups and downs that have existed since the industry began.
    I had an inside perspective and first hand knowledge of how an entire year would go for our industry and others. they were alway right. not once did I hear them talk about nuclear power.

    regular people do not want to be near a nuclear power plant.
    i wouldn't want to live next to one.

    What I wouldn't want to live next to is a coal, oil, or gas plant. I'd be fine living next to a nuclear power plant, all it emits is steam.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Gamgee on Sunday, August 15, 2021 12:39:49
    Re: Re: Heatwave
    By: Gamgee to DaiTengu on Fri Aug 13 2021 09:53 pm

    Absolutely right. One thing you left out is that it is also FAR more green/clean. Barring an accident, the only emission is.... water vapor from the cooling towers.

    That's my point. Even solar and wind kill more people than nuclear.

    And before you tree huggers chime in and tell how worried you are about an accident, the odds of that happening are so close to ZERO that it's not worth talking about. Yeah, Three Mile Island and Chernobyl, I know. Things have come a long way since TMI, and Chernobyl was caused by
    idiots and lax standards, in another country.

    I am a tree hugger. us reasonable tree huggers are quite aware of how safe nuclear is.

    DaiTengu

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to HusTler on Sunday, August 15, 2021 12:41:15
    Re: Re: Heatwave
    By: HusTler to MRO on Sun Aug 15 2021 08:30 am

    regular people do not want to be near a nuclear power plant.
    i wouldn't want to live next to one.
    Me neither. I live on Long Island. They pulled the plug on a nuclear power plant halfway through construction because if a disaster happened it would be too difficult to get everyone off the Island safely. Nuclear power plants are not imune to natural disasters such as earthquakes ,hurricans, severe tornado's or tsunami's. How quickly we forget events like the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster in 2011. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_Daiichi_nuclear_disaster

    Yeah I know, all the hundreds and thousands of people that died from the Fukushima disas-- oh wait. no one died.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to DaiTengu on Sunday, August 15, 2021 13:56:37
    Re: Re: Heatwave
    By: DaiTengu to MRO on Sun Aug 15 2021 12:37 pm

    regular people do not want to be near a nuclear power plant.
    i wouldn't want to live next to one.

    What I wouldn't want to live next to is a coal, oil, or gas plant. I'd be fine living next to a nuclear power plant, all it emits is steam.

    DaiTengu

    until it's not the only thing it emits. i know the odds are that it's safe.

    i dont think YOU would want to live next to a nuclear power plant either.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to DaiTengu on Sunday, August 15, 2021 14:00:03
    Re: Re: Heatwave
    By: DaiTengu to HusTler on Sun Aug 15 2021 12:41 pm

    Nuclear power plants are not imune to natural disasters such as earthquakes ,hurricans, severe tornado's or tsunami's. How quickly we forget events like the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster in 2011. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_Daiichi_nuclear_disaster

    Yeah I know, all the hundreds and thousands of people that died from the Fukushima disas-- oh wait. no one died.

    DaiTengu


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    no thanks, not a reliable source.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to DaiTengu on Sunday, August 15, 2021 15:36:00
    DaiTengu wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Absolutely right. One thing you left out is that it is also FAR more green/clean. Barring an accident, the only emission is.... water vapor from the cooling towers.

    That's my point. Even solar and wind kill more people than
    nuclear.

    Absolutely.

    And before you tree huggers chime in and tell how worried you are about
    an accident, the odds of that happening are so close to ZERO that it's
    not worth talking about. Yeah, Three Mile Island and Chernobyl, I know. Things have come a long way since TMI, and Chernobyl was caused by
    idiots and lax standards, in another country.

    I am a tree hugger. us reasonable tree huggers are quite aware
    of how safe nuclear is.

    As I read that back, I realized it came across differently than I
    wanted. The way I meant the term "tree hugger" was in reference to the *UNREASONABLE* tree huggers. :-) I am also a tree hugger, as in
    someone who wants to protect the environment, but not at the exclusion
    of all else.



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  • From Ksource@VERT/MUTINY to Gamgee on Monday, August 16, 2021 01:30:27
    Re: Re: Heatwave
    By: Gamgee to Dumas Walker on Sat Aug 14 2021 16:06:00

    Ahhh, yes, forgot about that one. Agreed. I still think nuclear is a
    valid option for power generation that should be expanding rather than shrinking.

    Ehh I don't know about that. IMHO the future of nuclear is not all that bright. We've only got about 7 million tonnes of Uranium left to be mined, which at current usage will last about 100 years. If you start expanding nuclear like crazy and increasing demand, what are you going to do when uranium gets really scarce in 50 years?

    Nuclear seems fine as a stop-gap measure to me, until we transition over to something that's really sustainable, but it looks like it's got a pretty short life.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Ksource on Monday, August 16, 2021 20:42:00
    Ksource wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Ahhh, yes, forgot about that one. Agreed. I still think nuclear is a
    valid option for power generation that should be expanding rather than shrinking.

    Ehh I don't know about that. IMHO the future of nuclear is not
    all that bright. We've only got about 7 million tonnes of Uranium
    left to be mined, which at current usage will last about 100
    years. If you start expanding nuclear like crazy and increasing
    demand, what are you going to do when uranium gets really scarce
    in 50 years?

    This article below says we've got 230 years of it left: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-long-will-global-uranium-deposits-last/

    Nuclear seems fine as a stop-gap measure to me, until we
    transition over to something that's really sustainable, but it
    looks like it's got a pretty short life.

    I think it's longer than you estimated, and that much time should be
    enough for technology to come up with something new/better by the time
    it runs out.

    Build more power plants!



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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Ksource on Tuesday, August 17, 2021 07:53:29
    Re: Re: Heatwave
    By: Ksource to Gamgee on Mon Aug 16 2021 01:30 am

    Ahhh, yes, forgot about that one. Agreed. I still think nuclear is a
    valid option for power generation that should be expanding rather than
    shrinking.

    Ehh I don't know about that. IMHO the future of nuclear is not all that bright. We've only got about 7 million tonnes of Uranium left to be mined, which at current usage will last about 100 years. If you start expanding nuclear like crazy and increasing demand, what are you going to do when uranium gets really scarce in 50 years?

    How using Plutonium or other known elements? I'm sure science could figure out some other way to kill everyone. They've done it in the past, so why not now?

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Ksource on Tuesday, August 17, 2021 08:01:12
    Re: Re: Heatwave
    By: Ksource to Gamgee on Mon Aug 16 2021 01:30 am

    Ahhh, yes, forgot about that one. Agreed. I still think nuclear is a
    valid option for power generation that should be expanding rather than
    shrinking.

    Ehh I don't know about that. IMHO the future of nuclear is not all that bright. We've only got about 7 million tonnes of Uranium left to be mined, which at current usage will last about 100 years. If you start expanding nuclear like crazy and increasing demand, what are you going to do when uranium gets really scarce in 50 years?

    How about using Plutonium or other known elements? I'm sure science could figure out some other way to kill everyone. They've done it in the past, so why not now?

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  • From Elf@VERT/DMINE to PAULIE420 on Thursday, August 19, 2021 16:20:00
    Quoting Paulie420 to The Millionaire <=-

    I'm sick and tired of the 'God's plan' and people unwilling to.... to
    look at NUMBERS and DATA that prove this fact.
    We need to change this around, so that we don't do MORE damage to
    Earth.

    So, where are these numbers? Have you reviewed them? I just wonder if
    the climate change we are experiencing is just part of the earths long,
    long, long, long term weather cycle. What I don't understand is how the scientists can be so sure that this warming is *entirely* or even
    *largely* caused by humans. I'm being sincere here, I have not seen the
    numbers and maybe that is the problem. 1) I'm not interested enough to
    seek them out and/or 2) they need to be placed more in our face instead
    of just mentioned in "news" articles without any bibliographic
    references.

    Is there one site for this where we can get all the scientific facts -
    and let's keep in mind, "scientific facts" are defined as "our current scientific undertanding" and dependant on our *correct* interpretation
    of those facts.


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  • From paulie420@VERT/BEERS20 to Elf on Thursday, August 19, 2021 19:26:00
    So, where are these numbers? Have you reviewed them? I just wonder if
    the climate change we are experiencing is just part of the earths long, long, long, long term weather cycle. What I don't understand is how the scientists can be so sure that this warming is *entirely* or even *largely* caused by humans. I'm being sincere here, I have not seen the numbers and maybe that is the problem. 1) I'm not interested enough to seek them out and/or 2) they need to be placed more in our face instead
    of just mentioned in "news" articles without any bibliographic
    references.

    These numbers are I'm 41 years old. I've lived in New York, Texas and California. [mainly] I currently live in PDX.

    Its SO much different in EVERY region than when we were 20. California burns for 6 months a year - hell, even Oregon burns 50% more than a decade ago.

    Wheres the numbers? Pull up weather.com. Type in 1979 and 2021. Theres the numbers.

    Its so in black and white that.... theres the numbers.

    Texas.
    California.
    New York.

    December avg's
    August avg's

    In fact, I'll bring the numbers within 24 hours and post them right here.



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  • From Atroxi@VERT to Gamgee on Wednesday, August 18, 2021 19:53:00
    Hey Gamgee!

    Gamgee wrote to Ksource <=-

    Ksource wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Ahhh, yes, forgot about that one. Agreed. I still think nuclear is a
    valid option for power generation that should be expanding rather than shrinking.

    Ehh I don't know about that. IMHO the future of nuclear is not
    all that bright. We've only got about 7 million tonnes of Uranium
    left to be mined, which at current usage will last about 100
    years. If you start expanding nuclear like crazy and increasing
    demand, what are you going to do when uranium gets really scarce
    in 50 years?

    This article below says we've got 230 years of it left: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-long-will-global-uranium- deposits-last/

    Sorry for butting in, but I just wanted to say that it just occurred to me
    that I never really thought about the amount of uranium still left to be
    mined. Now that I know, I never expected it to be `that few'?

    It's a quite mind-boggling few minutes for me.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to ELF on Friday, August 20, 2021 08:19:00
    Quoting Elf to Paulie420 <=-

    So, where are these numbers? Have you reviewed them? I just wonder if
    the climate change we are experiencing is just part of the earths
    long, long, long, long term weather cycle.

    That's what the actual scientists believe right now.

    What I don't understand is
    how the scientists can be so sure that this warming is *entirely* or
    even *largely* caused by humans.

    They don't. What many people don't realize is that many people today
    with scientific titles don't merit them.

    The Left has long since ruined universities. Many of the people
    produced have degrees that they don't merit and no real knowledge. But
    because they have the degree, many people believe that they have the
    knowledge. So the Left trots those people out to bolster their Climate
    Change Narrative. Of course, they ignore the many other scientists who actually have knowledge who don't follow the Narrative.

    Is there one site for this where we can get all the scientific facts -
    and let's keep in mind, "scientific facts" are defined as "our current scientific undertanding" and dependant on our *correct* interpretation
    of those facts.

    Even if there were, I wouldn't blindly trust it. Too many instutitions
    build up trust over time, then get infected with the Left and that trust
    gets squandered as the Left uses that trust to push their false
    Narratives. Ex: Snopes.com


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Atroxi on Friday, August 20, 2021 12:19:00
    Atroxi wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Ahhh, yes, forgot about that one. Agreed. I still think nuclear is a
    valid option for power generation that should be expanding rather than shrinking.

    Ehh I don't know about that. IMHO the future of nuclear is not
    all that bright. We've only got about 7 million tonnes of Uranium
    left to be mined, which at current usage will last about 100
    years. If you start expanding nuclear like crazy and increasing
    demand, what are you going to do when uranium gets really scarce
    in 50 years?

    This article below says we've got 230 years of it left: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-long-will-global-uranium- deposits-last/

    Sorry for butting in, but I just wanted to say that it just
    occurred to me that I never really thought about the amount of
    uranium still left to be mined. Now that I know, I never expected
    it to be `that few'?

    It's a quite mind-boggling few minutes for me.

    Yeah, I'd agree that the quantity is less than I would have guessed.
    But remember, 230 years in "technology advancement" is pretty much an eternity. By the time we've used up the Uranium, we will hopefully have figured out one/some of the following:
    1. Fission reactors
    2. An alternate source of energy
    3. How to travel to another planet/solar system

    The third option opens up all kinds of other/better options.



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  • From Elf@VERT/EOTLBBS to PAULIE420 on Saturday, August 21, 2021 23:02:00
    Quoting Paulie420 to Elf <=-

    Its SO much different in EVERY region than when we were 20. California burns for 6 months a year - hell, even Oregon burns 50% more than a
    decade ago.
    Wheres the numbers? Pull up weather.com. Type in 1979 and 2021. Theres
    the numbers.
    Its so in black and white that.... theres the numbers.

    Those are just weather reports and I get that. But those weather reports
    do not tell us that WE CAUSED the rise in temperatures. They just show
    the temperatures going up. That does not mean man caused it. How do we
    know this is not a part of earth's normal cycle? How do we know we got
    the science right? Where are the numbers PROVING that we caused the rise
    in temperature? I guess that is what I question. I *AM NOT* saying
    climate change/global warming is not real. I am just questioning how we
    know that man caused it and that it would not have happened as part of a
    longer cycle of earth's history. And is our understanding of earth's
    past weather patterns BEFORE we started recording them accurate? Again,
    I am not saying "it's not real" I'm just trying to understand how we can
    know for sure that we caused the warming.


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Gamgee on Sunday, August 22, 2021 11:54:00
    Re: Re: Heatwave
    By: Gamgee to Dumas Walker on Sat Aug 14 2021 04:06 pm

    Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-

    And before you tree huggers chime in and tell how worried you are about an accident, the odds of that happening are so close to ZERO that it's not worth talking about. Yeah, Three Mile Island and Chernobyl, I know. Things have come a long way since TMI, and Chernobyl was caused by
    idiots and lax standards, in another country.

    And then there is Fukishima. The problem I have with them is
    that they are almost always near water and, if there is an
    accident, it is almost always a cluster.

    Ahhh, yes, forgot about that one. Agreed. I still think nuclear is a
    valid option for power generation that should be expanding rather than shrinking.

    <SNIP>

    For some reason, those who are in the US nuclear field appear to
    be not that interested in these alternatives. Maybe it is not
    only the gas, oil, and tree hugger interests that are pulling
    strings.

    Yes, that is indeed a strange thing. I don't see much pro-nuke "advertising" or promotional efforts, that's for sure.



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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Sunday, August 22, 2021 11:59:00
    Re: Re: Heatwave
    By: MRO to HusTler on Sun Aug 15 2021 11:23 am

    Re: Re: Heatwave
    By: HusTler to MRO on Sun Aug 15 2021 08:30 am

    regular people do not want to be near a nuclear power plant.
    i wouldn't want to live next to one.

    Me neither. I live on Long Island. They pulled the plug on a nuclear pow plant halfway through construction because if a disaster happened it woul be too difficult to get everyone off the Island safely. Nuclear power pla are not imune to natural disasters such as earthquakes ,hurricans, severe tornado's or tsunami's. How quickly we forget events like the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster in 2011. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_Daiichi_nuclear_disaster


    yeah, it just takes one time.
    i heard that they are constantly painting in nuclear plants. it's to hold ba

    anyways, it is safe stuff. and you can recycle a lot of the by products.
    i just wouldnt want to live near one or work in one and that just says a lot

    Nuclear plant senior leaders are all former Navy. They love the smell of
    fresh paint, and are real anal about chips and scuffs on walls and doorways. It's more about appearance than any form of protection.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to DaiTengu on Sunday, August 22, 2021 12:03:00
    Re: Re: Heatwave
    By: DaiTengu to MRO on Sun Aug 15 2021 12:37 pm

    Re: Re: Heatwave
    By: MRO to DaiTengu on Sat Aug 14 2021 01:27 am

    yeah it is pretty safe. i worked in the oil and gas industry for 20 yea they arent scared of nuclear power. they are occupied with their cyclic existance of ups and downs that have existed since the industry began. I had an inside perspective and first hand knowledge of how an entire y would go for our industry and others. they were alway right. not once d I hear them talk about nuclear power.

    regular people do not want to be near a nuclear power plant.
    i wouldn't want to live next to one.

    What I wouldn't want to live next to is a coal, oil, or gas plant. I'd be f

    DaiTengu

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to HusTler on Sunday, August 22, 2021 12:10:00
    Re: Re: Heatwave
    By: HusTler to Ksource on Tue Aug 17 2021 07:53 am

    Re: Re: Heatwave
    By: Ksource to Gamgee on Mon Aug 16 2021 01:30 am

    Ahhh, yes, forgot about that one. Agreed. I still think nuclear is a
    valid option for power generation that should be expanding rather than
    shrinking.

    Ehh I don't know about that. IMHO the future of nuclear is not all that bright. We've only got about 7 million tonnes of Uranium left to be min which at current usage will last about 100 years. If you start expandin nuclear like crazy and increasing demand, what are you going to do when uranium gets really scarce in 50 years?

    How using Plutonium or other known elements? I'm sure science could figure o

    ... To think too long about doing a thing often becomes its undoing.


    Plutonium is already being recycled into fuel in countries such as the UK.
    The fuel is a mixture of existing spent fuel mix with plutonium to "water
    down" it to a point it can be used. /s


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Sunday, August 22, 2021 12:56:08
    Re: Re: Heatwave
    By: Moondog to MRO on Sun Aug 22 2021 11:59 am


    Nuclear plant senior leaders are all former Navy. They love the smell of fresh paint, and are real anal about chips and scuffs on walls and doorways. It's more about appearance than any form of protection.

    no, they use lead paint.
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  • From paulie420@VERT/BEERS20 to Elf on Sunday, August 22, 2021 17:46:00
    Those are just weather reports and I get that. But those weather reports do not tell us that WE CAUSED the rise in temperatures. They just show
    the temperatures going up. That does not mean man caused it. How do we know this is not a part of earth's normal cycle? How do we know we got
    the science right? Where are the numbers PROVING that we caused the rise in temperature? I guess that is what I question. I *AM NOT* saying
    climate change/global warming is not real. I am just questioning how we know that man caused it and that it would not have happened as part of a longer cycle of earth's history. And is our understanding of earth's
    past weather patterns BEFORE we started recording them accurate? Again,
    I am not saying "it's not real" I'm just trying to understand how we can know for sure that we caused the warming.

    Well... I am not a scientist so I won't fake the funk and act like I KNOW that WE caused all/part/most/some/blah of global warming, but... the globe... is and has been warming... at much crazier rates than previously.

    What changed? Oh.... cars, pollution, expansion, US. :P

    So while I'm just an amateur that DOESN'T know; I'd say WE are the cause and that changes to attempt to slow down global warming as much as possible are warranted, needed and...



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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to PAULIE420 on Monday, August 23, 2021 17:02:00
    Well... I am not a scientist so I won't fake the funk and act like I KNOW that
    E caused all/part/most/some/blah of global warming, but... the globe... is and
    as been warming... at much crazier rates than previously.

    What changed? Oh.... cars, pollution, expansion, US. :P

    Sometime in the past year, there was a very interesting show on PBS, maybe
    an episode of NOVA, where a "science guy" talked to a bunch of other
    scientists about global weather. They traveled to a lot of interesting
    places, including a place that is currently tundra but that contains very strong evidence of once being a lush tropical forest... not when the
    continents were in a different place, but actually at the latitude it is at now.

    They also went many other places, including one place that is very warm now
    but showed evidence of previously being under ice (also while at the same latitude as it is now).

    Pretty much the whole show was dedicated to the idea that the globe goes through warming and cooling on its own.

    The last bit of the show talked about core samples and how they could use
    these to show when heating and cooling took place in the area the core came from. The conclusion from this discussion was that the cores showed that during the most recent time period, that of humans, the climate swings (and heating, in particular) were much more pronounced.

    So the whole story was tied up with, "yes, the Earth does go through
    warming and cooling cycles on its own but, yes, we also play a noticable
    part in the climate."

    I liked the way the show was presented. They went from one really neat
    place and thing to another, never preaching about anything, just showing
    what could be found there, and explaining things in a way that didn't
    require an advance degree to understand.


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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to DUMAS WALKER on Tuesday, August 24, 2021 13:58:00
    DUMAS WALKER wrote to PAULIE420 <=-

    Sometime in the past year, there was a very interesting show on PBS,
    maybe an episode of NOVA, where a "science guy" talked to a bunch of
    other scientists about global weather. They traveled to a lot of interesting places, including a place that is currently tundra but that contains very strong evidence of once being a lush tropical forest...
    not when the continents were in a different place, but actually at the latitude it is at now.

    <snip>

    VERY cool! Wouldn't mind seeing that!

    I know rivers change as well. Now it's 'controlled,' but didn't use to
    be. I wonder if things wouldn't be 'better' globally if we didn't try
    and CONTROL nature as much...



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  • From Elf@VERT/DMINE to PAULIE420 on Tuesday, August 24, 2021 14:33:00
    Quoting Paulie420 to Elf <=-

    Well... I am not a scientist so I won't fake the funk and act like I
    KNOW that WE caused all/part/most/some/blah of global warming, but...
    the globe... is and has been warming... at much crazier rates than previously.
    What changed? Oh.... cars, pollution, expansion, US. :P

    So while I'm just an amateur that DOESN'T know; I'd say WE are the
    cause and that changes to attempt to slow down global warming as much
    as possible are warranted, needed and...

    The only thing you have stated is that the climate is warming and that
    we have increased cars, pollution and expansion. But, you still have not
    shown proof that one caused the other. Just because the climate warmed
    after we increased cars, pollution and expansion does not prove that was
    the cause. This is where we need real science not just assumptions.
    Sure, it may seem like that is the cause of the warming, but is it
    really? Or was this going to happen regardless of our cars, pollution
    and expansion and/or have we only increased the amount of that warming
    by a negligible amount? We need scientific proof and if we cannot
    provide a definitive answer, then we should not waste our resources
    trying to reverse something on which we may have had no negligible
    impact.



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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to JIMMY ANDERSON on Wednesday, August 25, 2021 13:23:00
    VERY cool! Wouldn't mind seeing that!

    I thought it was.

    I know rivers change as well. Now it's 'controlled,' but didn't use to
    be. I wonder if things wouldn't be 'better' globally if we didn't try
    and CONTROL nature as much...

    When I was in high school, our Biology teacher was telling us about how the
    US Army Corps of Engineers had been tasked with straightening out the Mississippi River in order to make it easier to navigate. So, they short-cutted a bunch of bends in the river. This had the unintended result
    of also making the water flow faster as it flows towards the Gulf of
    Mexico.

    That has caused more fresh water to enter the Gulf, at a faster rate than
    the Gulf can "assimilate," and also anything that has run-off into the river
    is more likely to make it all the way to the Gulf before it is absorbed by the river bed, or caught in one of the bends. That is why there is a muddy,
    mostly "dead zone" that is growing in the Gulf where the Mississippi drains into it.


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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to DUMAS WALKER on Thursday, August 26, 2021 11:13:00
    DUMAS WALKER wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

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    @REPLY: <61254C5C.120246.dove-gen@vert.synchro.net>
    VERY cool! Wouldn't mind seeing that!

    I thought it was.

    I know rivers change as well. Now it's 'controlled,' but didn't use to
    be. I wonder if things wouldn't be 'better' globally if we didn't try
    and CONTROL nature as much...

    When I was in high school, our Biology teacher was telling us about how the US Army Corps of Engineers had been tasked with straightening out
    the Mississippi River in order to make it easier to navigate. So, they short-cutted a bunch of bends in the river. This had the unintended result of also making the water flow faster as it flows towards the
    Gulf of Mexico.

    That has caused more fresh water to enter the Gulf, at a faster rate
    than the Gulf can "assimilate," and also anything that has run-off into the river is more likely to make it all the way to the Gulf before it
    is absorbed by the river bed, or caught in one of the bends. That is
    why there is a muddy, mostly "dead zone" that is growing in the Gulf
    where the Mississippi drains into it.

    VERY very interesting!

    This is kinda related... Not that loss of property or loss of life is not
    bad - it is - but every time I hear about a tornado doing damage, it's
    always to the things that man built and I think about that if that house
    wasn't there to begin with, then there's be no damage.

    I don't mean that cruel, just looking at the evnironmental picture.
    Rivers flood, change course, etc. Forests burn. It's the way God made
    nature to work, and man is interfering with it.







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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Moondog on Friday, August 27, 2021 12:21:28
    Re: Re: Heatwave
    By: Moondog to DaiTengu on Sun Aug 22 2021 12:03 pm

    regular people do not want to be near a nuclear power plant.
    i wouldn't want to live next to one.

    What I wouldn't want to live next to is a coal, oil, or gas plant.

    I used to work at a nuclear power plant and lived within the 10 mile evacuatio n zone. Any work done in the protected area has safety precautions and checkpoints built in, and the operators are disciplined and very meticulous re garding their work.



    Yep, that's why I said I'd be perfectly fine living next to a nuclear power plant.

    DaiTengu

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  • From Ksource@VERT/MUTINY to Atroxi on Friday, August 27, 2021 23:16:26
    Re: Re: Heatwave
    By: Atroxi to Gamgee on Wed Aug 18 2021 19:53:00

    Sorry for butting in, but I just wanted to say that it just occurred to me that I never really thought about the amount of uranium still left to be mined. Now that I know, I never expected it to be `that few'?

    It's a quite mind-boggling few minutes for me.

    I think you'd be forgiven for thinknig that way since we used to think uranium was so plentiful it'd last just about forever. There have been a lot of uranium mines that shut down really suddenly (were depleted long before we predicted them to) all over the world. I hope we're better at estimating uranium reserves these days.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to JIMMY ANDERSON on Saturday, August 28, 2021 09:32:00
    This is kinda related... Not that loss of property or loss of life is not
    bad - it is - but every time I hear about a tornado doing damage, it's
    always to the things that man built and I think about that if that house wasn't there to begin with, then there's be no damage.

    I don't mean that cruel, just looking at the evnironmental picture.
    Rivers flood, change course, etc. Forests burn. It's the way God made
    nature to work, and man is interfering with it.

    I have seen what a tornado can do to a forested area but, yeah, you usually don't hear much about those tornados. The ones you hear the most about
    are the ones that hit populated areas.


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to DaiTengu on Saturday, August 28, 2021 16:43:00
    Re: Re: Heatwave
    By: DaiTengu to Moondog on Fri Aug 27 2021 12:21 pm

    Re: Re: Heatwave
    By: Moondog to DaiTengu on Sun Aug 22 2021 12:03 pm

    regular people do not want to be near a nuclear power plant.
    i wouldn't want to live next to one.

    What I wouldn't want to live next to is a coal, oil, or gas plant.

    I used to work at a nuclear power plant and lived within the 10 mile evacuatio n zone. Any work done in the protected area has safety precautions and checkpoints built in, and the operators are disciplined and very meticulous re garding their work.



    Yep, that's why I said I'd be perfectly fine living next to a nuclear power

    DaiTengu

    ... A oscillator will oscillate at the wrong frequency ...if it oscillates.


    Just adding to what you were saying

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Dumas Walker on Saturday, August 28, 2021 17:53:16
    Re: Re: Heatwave
    By: Dumas Walker to PAULIE420 on Mon Aug 23 2021 05:02 pm

    Sometime in the past year, there was a very interesting show on PBS, maybe an episode of NOVA, where a "science guy" talked to a bunch of other

    I saw that show. Very interesting. I ask myself why some scientists tell us we are all doomed if we don't do something NOW, and others tell us earth goes thru changes and it's just the way it is. I'm convinced it has to so with money. These scientist's need funding and will say whatever their donors want to hear.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to HUSTLER on Sunday, August 29, 2021 10:21:00
    Sometime in the past year, there was a very interesting show on PBS, maybe >DW> an episode of NOVA, where a "science guy" talked to a bunch of other

    I saw that show. Very interesting. I ask myself why some scientists tell us we >are all doomed if we don't do something NOW, and others tell us earth goes thru
    changes and it's just the way it is. I'm convinced it has to so with money. The
    e scientist's need funding and will say whatever their donors want to hear.

    The impression I got from the show is that we do need to be thinking about
    it and trying to do things to alter our behavior. 10 or more years ago,
    there was a show on the Weather Channel where a scientist was pointing out
    that there are two things going on that somewhat cancel each other out... aerosols (affecting the ozone layer) and particulate pollution (affecting
    cloud cover). He said we need to do something about both but, if we had a knee-jerk reaction and only fixed one without considering the other, it
    could make things even worse.

    I do agree about scientists and funding. I am pretty sure that is what initially happened with the tobacco industry (i.e. they got scientists who would say what they wanted them to). I would not doubt that there are some "scientists" who are being funded by, or have invested in, green tech, just like there are some who are funded by/invested in the oil industry.


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to HusTler on Saturday, September 04, 2021 19:20:00
    Re: Re: Heatwave
    By: HusTler to Dumas Walker on Sat Aug 28 2021 05:53 pm

    Re: Re: Heatwave
    By: Dumas Walker to PAULIE420 on Mon Aug 23 2021 05:02 pm

    Sometime in the past year, there was a very interesting show on PBS, ma an episode of NOVA, where a "science guy" talked to a bunch of other

    I saw that show. Very interesting. I ask myself why some scientists tell us need funding and will say whatever their donors want to hear.

    |07 HusTler
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    havens.synchro.net

    There will be changes that are expected, however when you filter their
    effects from the data, there is an abnormal trend that follow's man's involvement rather than natural influences. The phenomenon has a name, but I have seen it explained by demonstrating with a man walking a dog. The man walks a sidewalk, while the dog can swing left and right randomly down the path, based on the length of it's leash. People look at the dog's tracks and say that is normal. The tracks left by the person are the real data points.

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