• vaccine does not work for 5% of people

    From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to All on Monday, March 22, 2021 22:27:00
    Hello everyone..

    There is a news story just released from Hawaii

    HEADLINE:
    Three fully vaccinated Hawaii residents infected with
    coronavirus

    Officials added that it's not surprising that some vaccinated
    Hawaiians have tested positive for the virus.

    "Remember, 95% of people get immunity from the vaccines and 5%
    don't from the Moderna and Pfizer vaccine," Lt. Gov. Josh Green
    told news station KHON2.

    "Some people are going to dive on to this and say, oh, then the
    vaccine doesn't work. No, it does work. It works in a huge
    percentage of people, but not everyone and that's an important
    message," Green added.

    OK.. but is the 5% failure due to a bad batch of vaccine? ..or
    due to a variant that the vaccine does not cover? ..or for
    goodness sake because the human is faulty somehow? :/


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Ogg on Tuesday, March 23, 2021 04:19:00
    Re: vaccine does not work for 5% of people
    By: Ogg to All on Mon Mar 22 2021 10:27 pm

    Hello everyone..

    There is a news story just released from Hawaii

    HEADLINE:
    Three fully vaccinated Hawaii residents infected with
    coronavirus

    Officials added that it's not surprising that some vaccinated
    Hawaiians have tested positive for the virus.

    "Remember, 95% of people get immunity from the vaccines and 5%
    don't from the Moderna and Pfizer vaccine," Lt. Gov. Josh Green
    told news station KHON2.

    "Some people are going to dive on to this and say, oh, then the
    vaccine doesn't work. No, it does work. It works in a huge
    percentage of people, but not everyone and that's an important
    message," Green added.

    OK.. but is the 5% failure due to a bad batch of vaccine? ..or
    due to a variant that the vaccine does not cover? ..or for
    goodness sake because the human is faulty somehow? :/

    If it is really 95% of effectiveness, it is not that bad.

    I think there are vaccines out there with much lower success percentages.

    I have had a dog die for a disease she was vaccinated against, and other dogs of the pack got sick despite being vaccinated.
    Some vaccines seem to be notoriously inefective or too narrowly focused.

    I think the equine influenza vaccines my horses get are known not to be great either. They are supposed to provide immunity for
    the year but immunity is known to be gone earlier than that. Thankfully, the only really important vaccine for horses around
    here is the tetanus one, which seems quite effective. However, one of my mares reacts very badly to it. She gets really sore
    and loses appetite for a couple of days every time she takes it.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Ogg on Wednesday, March 24, 2021 07:11:00
    Ogg wrote to All <=-

    Officials added that it's not surprising that some vaccinated
    Hawaiians have tested positive for the virus.

    "Remember, 95% of people get immunity from the vaccines and 5%
    don't from the Moderna and Pfizer vaccine," Lt. Gov. Josh Green
    told news station KHON2.

    95% gets you into the range of protecting the population from uncontrolled spread and the health care system from being overloaded. By that measure
    it's a success.




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