finally i managed to get back to vertrauen, someone stole my old computer and all my logon information was there... i had the luck that my account doesn't got banned or erased
well... how are all doing?

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Re: on a way, i managed to get back
By: Silver to All on Sun Mar 21 2021 07:29 pm

finally i managed to get back to vertrauen, someone stole my old computer and all my logon information was there... i had th
luck that my account doesn't got banned or erased
well... how are all doing?

Better than you, it seems. At least nobody has stolen any of my computers.

I hope you were using full disk encryption.

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Re: on a way, i managed to get back
By: Arelor to Silver on Mon Mar 22 2021 03:59 am

it was encrypted, but i know that the ones who stoled my lap didn't wanted the information, they just wanted to sell it for money to their dealer...

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Re: on a way, i managed to get back
By: Silver to Arelor on Mon Mar 22 2021 07:25 am

Re: on a way, i managed to get back
By: Arelor to Silver on Mon Mar 22 2021 03:59 am

it was encrypted, but i know that the ones who stoled my lap didn't wanted the information, they just wanted to sell it for money to their dealer...

make sure you quote your replies
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Re: on a way, i managed to get back
By: Silver to Arelor on Mon Mar 22 2021 07:25 am

Re: on a way, i managed to get back
By: Arelor to Silver on Mon Mar 22 2021 03:59 am

it was encrypted, but i know that the ones who stoled my lap didn't wanted t information, they just wanted to sell it for money to their dealer...

That is usually the case :-)

My boss had a USB drive stolen once, and thankfully it was cryptsetupped to death. Which was a good thing because it was loaded up with critical information.

They also stole a folder. A paper folder. With no documents in. You really have to be desperate to steal those things.

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Re: on a way, i managed to get back
By: MRO to Silver on Mon Mar 22 2021 01:12 pm

make sure you quote your replies

sorry, on this way? i don't know how
"translating, working and BBSing is my life... despite the fact that i'm new to BBSes..."
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Hello Arelor!

** On Monday 22.03.21 - 14:11, Arelor wrote to Silver:

My boss had a USB drive stolen once, and thankfully it was cryptsetupped
to death. Which was a good thing because it was loaded up with critical information.

I used to carry a USB thumbdrive in a "sock" holder that was
designed to clip to my set of keys. I had the habit of hooking
the keys into my back pocket and let some of the keys hang
outside the pocket. One day, coming out of a grocery store and
reaching for my keys to unlock the car, I noticed that the clump
of keys seemed different. Apparently the dedicated USB holder
had fallen off! I went back into the store to see if I could
find it on the floor anywhere. I left a lost-n-found request
with management. Never found it. The thumbdrive had a copy of
my shop database files (MS Access format) and a few other key
files with biz info. The database file contained full credit
card info that I needed with some of my suppliers. It also had
an ongoing text file that I used to make notes - I really missed
that one most of all because a copy of it didn't exist anywhere
else.

A couple days later, I noticed some unauthorized purchases with
the cards!

Who ever found the thumbdrive worked fast. They could have
turned it in since the database file had plenty of clues that it
belonged to me. It was a fine 16GB drive.

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Hello MRO!

** On Monday 22.03.21 - 13:12, MRO wrote to Silver:

it was encrypted, but i know that the ones who stoled my lap didn't wanted
the information, they just wanted to sell it for money to their dealer...

make sure you quote your replies

It's not a problem when using OpenXP, :D

References of "on a way, i managed to get back"
358 21.03 Silver on a way, i managed to get back
636 22.03 ÀÄÄArelor
394 22.03 ÀÄÄSilver
517 22.03 ÃÄÄMRO <==the one I'm replying to now
426 22.03 ³ ÀÄÄSilver
875 22.03 ÀÄÄArelor
+! 1504 22.03 ÀÄÄOgg



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Re: on a way, i managed to get back
By: Ogg to Arelor on Mon Mar 22 2021 09:01 pm

Hello Arelor!

** On Monday 22.03.21 - 14:11, Arelor wrote to Silver:

My boss had a USB drive stolen once, and thankfully it was cryptsetupped to death. Which was a good thing because it was loaded up with critical information.

I used to carry a USB thumbdrive in a "sock" holder that was
designed to clip to my set of keys. I had the habit of hooking
the keys into my back pocket and let some of the keys hang
outside the pocket. One day, coming out of a grocery store and
reaching for my keys to unlock the car, I noticed that the clump
of keys seemed different. Apparently the dedicated USB holder
had fallen off! I went back into the store to see if I could
find it on the floor anywhere. I left a lost-n-found request
with management. Never found it. The thumbdrive had a copy of
my shop database files (MS Access format) and a few other key
files with biz info. The database file contained full credit
card info that I needed with some of my suppliers. It also had
an ongoing text file that I used to make notes - I really missed
that one most of all because a copy of it didn't exist anywhere
else.

A couple days later, I noticed some unauthorized purchases with
the cards!

Who ever found the thumbdrive worked fast. They could have
turned it in since the database file had plenty of clues that it
belonged to me. It was a fine 16GB drive.

Man, that sucks.

You know, I am the paranoia man everybody laughs at.

Everybody laughs when I put the secret documents in a safe, and when I get angry when somebody else does not.

Everybody laughs when I tell them no cameras, microphones or phones are allowed near my computers or my stuff.

Everybody laughs when I place my computers in a dhcpless network, with both IPs and ARP statically configured and host-to-host
IPSEC encryption (to be honest, I laugh at this one myself too).

Everybody laughs because I keep a checksum of every file in storage, which is checked periodically for corruption or
tampering.

Then somebody loses the secret documents, or gets them stolen, or gets ransomware in a computer with no recovery options, and
nobody fucking laughs.

I have a nice collection of "I told you so" moments, and I never go "I told you so" because, deep down, I am a good guy.
However, nobody ever realizes it was an "I told you so" moment. A day later they are still laugthing at me.

In conclusion:

Fuck this place. And encrypt your data when it is out of premises.


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Re: on a way, i managed to get back
By: Ogg to MRO on Mon Mar 22 2021 09:05 pm

Hello MRO!

** On Monday 22.03.21 - 13:12, MRO wrote to Silver:

it was encrypted, but i know that the ones who stoled my lap didn't wanted
the information, they just wanted to sell it for money to their dealer...

make sure you quote your replies

It's not a problem when using OpenXP, :D

References of "on a way, i managed to get back"
358 21.03 Silver on a way, i managed to get back
636 22.03 ÀÄÄArelor
394 22.03 ÀÄÄSilver
517 22.03 ÃÄÄMRO <==the one I'm replying to now
426 22.03 ³ ÀÄÄSilver
875 22.03 ÀÄÄArelor
+! 1504 22.03 ÀÄÄOgg

Even stock Synchronet can track threads, but I think it is good nettiquete to quote what you are responding to, if just to
prevent people from having to backtrack and read the original post. Specially when the original post is 900 word long and the
reply is addresses at the last line :-)

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Ogg wrote to Arelor <=-

A couple days later, I noticed some unauthorized purchases with
the cards!

Who ever found the thumbdrive worked fast. They could have
turned it in since the database file had plenty of clues that it
belonged to me. It was a fine 16GB drive.

There are instructions on line to build a USB-port/computer destroying USB drive.

My inner cat is telling me to build one and hang it off the back of my
pants on in a "sock" and go to the grocery store. 8)



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Re: on a way, i managed to get back
By: Arelor to Ogg on Tue Mar 23 2021 04:11 am

Even stock Synchronet can track threads, but I think it is good nettiquete to quote what you are responding to, if just to prevent people from having to backtrack and read the original post. Specially when the original post

Yes, I usually don't feel like tracking down the post that was being replied to. Quoting makes it so much easier to follow the conversation.

Nightfox

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Re: on a way, i managed to get back
By: Ogg to MRO on Mon Mar 22 2021 09:05 pm

It's not a problem when using OpenXP, :D

References of "on a way, i managed to get back"
358 21.03 Silver on a way, i managed to get back
636 22.03 ÀÄÄArelor
394 22.03 ÀÄÄSilver

I have command keys that take me back in the thread by subject or author
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Hello Dr. What!

** On Tuesday 23.03.21 - 09:23, Dr. What wrote to Ogg:

Who ever found the thumbdrive worked fast. They could have
turned it in since the database file had plenty of clues that it
belonged to me. It was a fine 16GB drive.

There are instructions on line to build a USB-port/computer
destroying USB drive.

The usbkill.com ? Interesting concept, but is the drive usable
as a genuine storage device? It looks like it's intended to zap
computers. But it doesn't look like it's a throwaway at $150 a
piece.

My inner cat is telling me to build one and hang it off the
back of my pants on in a "sock" and go to the grocery
store. 8)

I would rather build one with an executable file desguised as a
text file (mysecrets.txt) and then just have that run to first
delete its own usb contents and then delete a core system file
on the host.

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Hello Nightfox!

** On Tuesday 23.03.21 - 08:24, Nightfox wrote to Arelor:

Yes, I usually don't feel like tracking down the post that was being replied to. Quoting makes it so much easier to follow the conversation.

I've used (and sometimes still do) the inter-message quoting
technique in email. Most recipients didn't know how to handle
that. It seems they weren't interested in cleaning up email and
only quote the relevant parts preceeding a reply. Those people
would be hard to introduce to the FTN-echomail world of
messaging. :/


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Hello Arelor!

** On Tuesday 23.03.21 - 04:11, Arelor wrote to Ogg:

Even stock Synchronet can track threads, but I think it is good nettiquete to quote what you are responding to, if just to prevent people from having to backtrack and read the original post. Specially when the original post is 900 word long and the reply is addresses at the last line :-)

OK.. for long pieces, sure. But most of the time most messages
here do not exceed 900 words.

I see that you are using the online bbs-method for this. Looking
up a thread directly on a bbs (even a synchronet one) is
tedious. So, I can appreciate your need to have quoting
reminders.


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make sure you quote your replies

It's not a problem when using OpenXP, :D

you know that's not the point..

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Hello MRO!

** On Tuesday 23.03.21 - 14:12, MRO wrote to Ogg:

It's not a problem when using OpenXP, :D

References of "on a way, i managed to get back"
358 21.03 Silver on a way, i managed to get back
636 22.03 ÀÄÄArelor
394 22.03 ÀÄÄSilver

I have command keys that take me back in the thread by
subject or author

Nice. That's better than nothing. :)

BTW.. OpenXP can sift and search using the subject/author method
too. :D


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Hello Arelor!

** On Tuesday 23.03.21 - 04:11, Arelor wrote to Ogg:

875 22.03 ÀÄÄArelor
+! 1504 22.03 ÀÄÄOgg

Even stock Synchronet can track threads, but I think it is
good nettiquete to quote what you are responding to, if just
to prevent people from having to backtrack and read the
original post.

But backtracking and taking advantage of threading (graphical or
by direct navigation) is fun ..especially with OpenXP! :D

Specially when the original post is 900 word
long and the reply is addresses at the last line :-)

Oh.. in that case I would TOP POST! :D


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Hello Arelor!

** On Tuesday 23.03.21 - 04:10, you wrote to me:

I used to carry a USB thumbdrive in a "sock" holder..
Apparently the dedicated USB holder had fallen off!..
The thumbdrive had a copy of my shop database files (MS
Access format) and a few other key files with biz info..

Man, that sucks.

I should have considered encrypting the whole drive for my
regular use. But never fully researched my options and how to
implement that. Meanwhile, I still carry around other usb
drives, but now I just stash them in my pockets.

You know, I am the paranoia man everybody laughs at.

Everybody laughs when I put the secret documents in a safe,
and when I get angry when somebody else does not.

I keep a few things like that in a location no one would ever
think to look. A safe is not practical for me; someone could
lift those suckers and carry it away.

Everybody laughs when I tell them no cameras, microphones or
phones are allowed near my computers or my stuff.

Pin cameras in pens, caps, eyeglasses, etc. would be hard to
detect and notice. :/

Everybody laughs when I place my computers in a dhcpless
network, with both IPs and ARP statically configured and
host-to-host IPSEC encryption (to be honest, I laugh at this
one myself too).

I understand static IP address (I've done that with the 2 pcs
and POS device that is connected to my network) but since I'm
the only person hanging around my network, I like the
convenience of dhcp when I need to fire up my Blackberry or
another laptop for a few minutes.

IPSEC eludes me. I think I encountered that for remote access.

Everybody laughs because I keep a checksum of every file in
storage, which is checked periodically for corruption or
tampering.

Wow. I wouldn't laugh, but I think that must be a lot of
checksumming going on.

Then somebody loses the secret documents, or gets them
stolen, or gets ransomware in a computer with no recovery
options, and nobody fucking laughs.

The main vector for ransomware seems to be the meager email! If
I had persons working for me, I would ban the use of personal
email accounts. I wrote about a couple of recent email tricks
that landed on my plate in the fido INTERNET echo. One had the
links totally obvuscated with utf-8 chars. And another clearly
used the "X-PHP-Script:" header line with "<sitename>/mat/
metoo.php for 20.52.179.36" which you would only see if you
actually looked at the raw header data.

I have a nice collection of "I told you so" moments, and I
never go "I told you so" because, deep down, I am a good
guy. However, nobody ever realizes it was an "I told you so"
moment. A day later they are still laugthing at me.

Document those moments in writing and make a company poster out
of it. THEN those people will realize their fickleness.

In conclusion:

Fuck this place. And encrypt your data when it is out of
premises.

What would be a good procedure to encrypt a usb drive that I
would access daily? I use the drive between my XP and Win7
systems interchangeably.

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Ogg wrote to Dr. What <=-

There are instructions on line to build a USB-port/computer
destroying USB drive.

The usbkill.com ? Interesting concept, but is the drive usable
as a genuine storage device? It looks like it's intended to zap computers. But it doesn't look like it's a throwaway at $150 a
piece.

Yup. That's its intent. It's completely malicious and designed to hurt
bad people who like to steal other people's USB drive.

$150 is way too much. My understanding is that you can build one your
self with a cheap USB drive and a soldering iron.

I would rather build one with an executable file desguised as a
text file (mysecrets.txt) and then just have that run to first
delete its own usb contents and then delete a core system file
on the host.

IHMO, that's being too soft on the thieves.


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Re: on a way, i managed to get back
By: Ogg to Arelor on Tue Mar 23 2021 10:57 pm

What would be a good procedure to encrypt a usb drive that I
would access daily? I use the drive between my XP and Win7
systems interchangeably.

I think your best bet would be Veracrypt. I don't know if it runs on XP but I think it
should.

You could also use a USB drive with integrated hardware encryption, but I am not a fan
of those. They are very expensive for what they offer to regular consumers. Usually
they are also bound to specific versions of specific platforms.

Back in the day when interoperatibility with Windows was important, I used Veracrypt
myself (and its predecesor, Truecrypt). Truecrypt's manual is a MUST READ for any
security hobbyist, because it coves most opsec procedures you must be aware of when
dealing with nuclear launch codes XD


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Re: on a way, i managed to get back
By: Ogg to MRO on Tue Mar 23 2021 08:59 pm

I have command keys that take me back in the thread by
subject or author

Nice. That's better than nothing. :)

BTW.. OpenXP can sift and search using the subject/author method
too. :D

i looked at it. it's not something i'd want to use.
synchronet has all the features you are mentioning.
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Re: build a USB-port computer
By: Dr. What to Ogg on Wed Mar 24 2021 08:44 am

as a genuine storage device? It looks like it's intended to zap computers. But it doesn't look like it's a throwaway at $150 a
piece.

Yup. That's its intent. It's completely malicious and designed to hurt
bad people who like to steal other people's USB drive.

i dont think usb drive thievery is big problem. this stuff is just made for people that want to be assholes and damage other people's stuff.
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On 03-23-21 08:24, Nightfox wrote to Arelor <=-

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Re: on a way, i managed to get back
By: Arelor to Ogg on Tue Mar 23 2021 04:11 am

Even stock Synchronet can track threads, but I think it is good nettiquete to quote what you are responding to, if just to prevent people from having to backtrack and read the original post. Specially when the original post

Yes, I usually don't feel like tracking down the post that was being replied to. Quoting makes it so much easier to follow the
conversation.

And for me, it's generally very inconvenient for me to backtrack. :/


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Hello Vk3jed!

** On Thursday 25.03.21 - 20:11, Vk3jed wrote to Nightfox:

Yes, I usually don't feel like tracking down the post that
was being replied to. Quoting makes it so much easier to
follow the conversation.

And for me, it's generally very inconvenient for me to
backtrack. :/

You can always use a JAM-nntp server + a decent ng reader as a
go-to in your back pocket to view the message tree and do
searches.



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