I was watching an LGR youtube video where he went to a place that would recycl e e-waste, and they would set aside x86 and early pentiums for vintage computing folks. The owner of the business palced a limited winodw of opportunity to pick up early Pentium systems due the amount of gold involved in motherboards and CPU's from that era. They get more money per pound selling 90's era boards.
Re: Re: Young folks
By: Moondog to Vk3jed on Thu Sep 03 2020 01:09 pm
I was watching an LGR youtube video where he went to a place that would recycl e e-waste, and they would set aside x86 and early pentiums for vintage computing folks. The owner of the business palced a limited win of opportunity to pick up early Pentium systems due the amount of gold involved in motherboards and CPU's from that era. They get more money p pound selling 90's era boards.
I think it would be interesting to find a place near me that might do that. better to run it on actual hardware).
Nightfox
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Re: Re: Young folks
By: Moondog to Vk3jed on Thu Sep 03 2020 01:09 pm
I was watching an LGR youtube video where he went to a place that would recycl e e-waste, and they would set aside x86 and early pentiums for vintage computing folks. The owner of the business palced a limited winodw of opportunity to pick up early Pentium systems due the amount of gold involved in motherboards and CPU's from that era. They get more money per pound selling 90's era boards.
I think it would be interesting to find a place near me that might do that. But then I'm not sure how much I'd really use a vintage PC these days.. You can still run a lot of old software with emulation &
virtual machines (though I know sometimes it's better to run it on
actual hardware).
Nightfox
Some Goodwill stores and pawn shops have have older stuff on their shelves. I should've bought a C-64 when they were only $20 on ebay versus $300 or more for one in unknown condition or the board had the SID, PLA and other custom IC's pillaged from the board.
LGR on Youtube does thrift shop videos and sometimes finds neat stuff. Otherwise you could go to garage sales or e-recycling events and save items from being tossed.
On 09-05-20 00:49, Moondog wrote to Nightfox <=-
Some Goodwill stores and pawn shops have have older stuff on their shelves. I should've bought a C-64 when they were only $20 on ebay
versus $300 or more for one in unknown condition or the board had the
SID, PLA and other custom IC's pillaged from the board.
LGR on Youtube does thrift shop videos and sometimes finds neat stuff. Otherwise you could go to garage sales or e-recycling events and save items from being tossed.
Vk3jed wrote to Moondog <=-
On 09-05-20 00:49, Moondog wrote to Nightfox <=-
Some Goodwill stores and pawn shops have have older stuff on their shelves. I should've bought a C-64 when they were only $20 on ebay
versus $300 or more for one in unknown condition or the board had the
SID, PLA and other custom IC's pillaged from the board.
Even though I wasn't a big C64 fan, I'd be tempted to buy one, if I saw
it for $20. Still a good collectors item. :) Getting harder to find
old computer gear - a lot of the op shops here don't carry any
electrical items, because of safety inspection requirements, but
there's always garage sales and computer or ham radio flea markets,
where you might find something. :)
Re: Vintage computers
By: Moondog to Nightfox on Sat Sep 05 2020 12:49 am
Some Goodwill stores and pawn shops have have older stuff on their shelves. I should've bought a C-64 when they were only $20 on ebay vers $300 or more for one in unknown condition or the board had the SID, PLA and other custom IC's pillaged from the board.
LGR on Youtube does thrift shop videos and sometimes finds neat stuff. Otherwise you could go to garage sales or e-recycling events and save items from being tossed.
Yeah, I've seen a couple of LGR's Goodwill videos. It's really luck of the
Nightfox
Vk3jed wrote to Moondog <=-
Even though I wasn't a big C64 fan, I'd be tempted to buy one, if I saw
it for $20. Still a good collectors item. :) Getting harder to find
old computer gear - a lot of the op shops here don't carry any
electrical items, because of safety inspection requirements, but
there's always garage sales and computer or ham radio flea markets,
where you might find something. :)
Another possibility here is the recycling yard, where salvagable items
are often restored and sold. We have a pretty good recycling facility here. A lot of stuff taken to the tip ends up in the recycling yard, because it's the first stop, and also free, as opposed to dumping, for which a fee is charged.
I've got some older (but not 80s) computers that I will be taking to
the recyclers, and some of them might end up being resold. :)
But on second thoughts, I may retain one as an old DOS box. I still
have to fix up my inter-FTN gateway (think it neads a real DOS BBS).
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poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Vk3jed wrote to Moondog <=-
Even though I wasn't a big C64 fan, I'd be tempted to buy one, if I saw
it for $20. Still a good collectors item. :) Getting harder to find
old computer gear - a lot of the op shops here don't carry any
electrical items, because of safety inspection requirements, but
there's always garage sales and computer or ham radio flea markets,
where you might find something. :)
The thrift shops around here have lots of Pentium simgle-core systems
circa 2000 or so, but nothing older. I've been tempted to get a 2GB
system, put my PATA SSD in it, and throw Lubuntu on it for a spare
system.
Another possibility here is the recycling yard, where salvagable items
are often restored and sold. We have a pretty good recycling facility here. A lot of stuff taken to the tip ends up in the recycling yard, because it's the first stop, and also free, as opposed to dumping, for which a fee is charged.
I worked at a job recently that e-wasted pallets of old PS/2s and XTs
they had laying around for years. I wept when I heard that.
The PS/2 model 80 was my favorite system from the time.
On 09-06-20 11:59, Dennisk wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Hard to find a cheap one now. I have a few, and I'd be willing to
trade, but not sure what for. Make sure you hook it up to a CRT TV though. C64 on LCD just looks wrong. Hell, the emulators look more
like the real thing than the real thing on an LCD.
It sucks about Op Shops, that is where I used to get my old gear. Australia's regulatory requirements really go to absurdities quite
often. Your not even allows to salvage things from hard rubbish.
On 09-06-20 07:17, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
The thrift shops around here have lots of Pentium simgle-core systems
circa 2000 or so, but nothing older. I've been tempted to get a 2GB
system, put my PATA SSD in it, and throw Lubuntu on it for a spare
system.
I worked at a job recently that e-wasted pallets of old PS/2s and XTs
they had laying around for years. I wept when I heard that.
The PS/2 model 80 was my favorite system from the time.
Vk3jed wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Yes, that sort of system still has a fair bit of grunt for many tasks. BBSing definitely comes to mind! :) I've got a heap of old netbooks. Lubuntu runs well on them, and as text based systems, they run well. :)
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I worked at a job recently that e-wasted pallets of old PS/2s and XTs
they had laying around for years. I wept when I heard that.
On 09-07-20 07:37, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
@VIA: VERT/REALITY
Vk3jed wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Yes, that sort of system still has a fair bit of grunt for many tasks. BBSing definitely comes to mind! :) I've got a heap of old netbooks. Lubuntu runs well on them, and as text based systems, they run well. :)
BBSes, definitely. I ran my BBS on a 1.1 ghz celeron with 512 MB of
RAM for 10 years. It was an old consumer HP system that wouldn't quit. Until it finally did.
Dr. What wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I worked at a job recently that e-wasted pallets of old PS/2s and XTs
they had laying around for years. I wept when I heard that.
Some places won't even let you take them if they have tube monitors.
I remember surfing at Shorpy for old photos. I saw some photos of
piles of Ford Model A cars stacked up for "recycling" and
I thought Oh.. the waste.
But then I remembered the context: Those cars had been used up. They were 10 years out of date. No one wanted them.
They were junk and, so, were scrapped.
Unfortunately, the PS/2s were in the same boat: used up, 30 years out
of date, no one (that they knew of) wanted them. They
were junk and, so, were scrapped.
I think one of the ways that we can save these old systems is to make
sure that people know that there is a demand for these
vintage computers and people who will restore them (or, at least, use
them for parts to restore others).
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I worked at a job recently that e-wasted pallets of old PS/2s and XTs
they had laying around for years. I wept when I heard that.
Some places won't even let you take them if they have tube monitors.
I remember surfing at Shorpy for old photos. I saw some photos of piles of Ford Model A cars stacked up for "recycling" and
I thought Oh.. the waste.
But then I remembered the context: Those cars had been used up. They were years out of date. No one wanted them.
They were junk and, so, were scrapped.
Unfortunately, the PS/2s were in the same boat: used up, 30 years out of dat no one (that they knew of) wanted them. They
were junk and, so, were scrapped.
I think one of the ways that we can save these old systems is to make sure t people know that there is a demand for these
vintage computers and people who will restore them (or, at least, use them f parts to restore others).
... To err is human. To moo is bovine.
I've gone through a phase this year, in getting my "retro" equipment sorted and running. (...)
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