Does anyone use TeleMate (in DOSBox) to call BBSes? Usually these days I've Recently I have set up TeleMate in DOSBox and have been able to telnet into BBSes with TeleMate with DOSBox's modem emulation.
Does anyone use TeleMate (in DOSBox) to call BBSes? Usually these
days I've Recently I have set up TeleMate in DOSBox and have been able
to telnet into BBSes with TeleMate with DOSBox's modem emulation.
How have you managed to do that? I tried following the instructions in the comments of dosbox.conf but I must be missing something. I typically use MS-Kermit as my terminal emulator in DOS.
Does anyone use TeleMate (in DOSBox) to call BBSes? Usually these days I've been using SyncTerm, but TeleMate was my favorite in the 90s. Recently I have set up TeleMate in DOSBox and have been able to telnet into BBSes with TeleMate with DOSBox's modem emulation.
It has been a long time, but in TeleMate's dialing directory, supposedly you should be able to press Insert to insert a new BBS entry. However, when I press insert, it tries to dial (and of course, there's no BBS information in that entry for it to use). I was curious if there's something I forgot about adding an entry into TeleMate's dialing directory, or perhaps if it has some weird behavior in DOSBox?
It has been a long time, but in TeleMate's dialing directory,
supposedly you should be able to press Insert to insert a new BBS
entry. However, when I press insert, it tries to dial (and of course,
I set this up in DOSBox this morning to check it out. I got the same strange results with the Insert key (using Telemate v4.20). I paged through the (rather difficult to follow) "Help" screens (F1 I think), and eventually saw that "F6" allows editing a phone book entry. Went back to the main phone book page, press Enter on the first line, and then F6. Now the entry is edit-able. Put in my own system and connected just fine, with
I much prefer Telix for DOS telecom, personally.
Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-
Re: TeleMate dialing directory
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Fri Jul 03 2020 12:46 pm
It has been a long time, but in TeleMate's dialing directory,
supposedly you should be able to press Insert to insert a new BBS
entry. However, when I press insert, it tries to dial (and of course,
I set this up in DOSBox this morning to check it out. I got the same strange results with the Insert key (using Telemate v4.20). I paged through the (rather difficult to follow) "Help" screens (F1 I think), and eventually saw that "F6" allows editing a phone book entry. Went back to the main phone book page, press Enter on the first line, and then F6. Now the entry is edit-able. Put in my own system and connected just fine, with
I'll have to give that a try. Now that I think about it though,
I think dialing directories for DOS comm programs probably only
accept a phone number, so I don't think I could use the dialing
directory for telnet addresses anyway.
I set this up in DOSBox this morning to check it out. I got the same strange results with the Insert key (using Telemate v4.20). I paged through the (rather difficult to follow) "Help" screens (F1 I think), and eventually saw that "F6" allows editing a phone book entry. Went back to the main phone book page, press Enter on the first line, and then F6. Now the entry is edit-able. Put in my own system and connected just fine, with mostly all default settings. Tried a Zmodem download and it failed, just as it seems to with other telecom programs I've used in DOSBox. Timing issues as I recall, not sure that can be fixed. Anyway... the key is to use F6 for editing the phone book.
I much prefer Telix for DOS telecom, personally.
Re: TeleMate dialing directory
By: Nightfox to All on Thu Jul 02 2020 10:19 pm
Does anyone use TeleMate (in DOSBox) to call BBSes? Usually these days I've been using SyncTerm, but TeleMate was my favorite in the 90s. Recently I have set up TeleMate in DOSBox and have been able to telnet into BBSes with TeleMate with DOSBox's modem emulation.
It has been a long time, but in TeleMate's dialing directory, supposedly you should be able to press Insert to insert a new BBS entry. However, when I press insert, it tries to dial (and of course, there's no BBS information in that entry for it to use). I was curious if there's something I forgot about adding an entry into TeleMate's dialing directory, or perhaps if it has some weird behavior in DOSBox?
I set this up in DOSBox this morning to check it out. I got the same strange results with the Insert key (using Telemate v4.20). I paged through the (rather difficult to follow) "Help" screens (F1 I think), and eventually saw that "F6" allows editing a phone book entry. Went back to the main phone book page, press Enter on the first line, and then F6. Now the entry is edit-able. Put in my own system and connected just fine, with mostly all default settings. Tried a Zmodem download and it failed, just as it seems to with other telecom programs I've used in DOSBox. Timing issues as I recall, not sure that can be fixed. Anyway... the key is to use F6 for editing the phone book.
The problem is that DOSBox and its shims to connect to Internet BBSes don't actually support Telnet (or may require some special configuration to enable). If you connect to an RLogin port (513) instead of Telnet (23),
Re: TeleMate dialing directory
By: Digital Man to Gamgee on Sat Aug 01 2020 02:39 pm
The problem is that DOSBox and its shims to connect to Internet BBSes don't actually support Telnet (or may require some special configuration to enable). If you connect to an RLogin port (513) instead of Telnet (23),
Really? Maybe it's different on *nix vs Windows, 'cause I've used dosbox with both Telix and Ripterm off and on for years just for giggles, and never had a problem with downloads working out of the box.
Digital Man wrote to Gamgee <=-
It has been a long time, but in TeleMate's dialing directory, supposedly you should be able to press Insert to insert a new BBS entry. However, when I press insert, it tries to dial (and of course, there's no BBS information in that entry for it to use). I was curious if there's something I forgot about adding an entry into TeleMate's dialing directory, or perhaps if it has some weird behavior in DOSBox?
I set this up in DOSBox this morning to check it out. I got the same strange results with the Insert key (using Telemate v4.20). I paged through the (rather difficult to follow) "Help" screens (F1 I think), and eventually saw that "F6" allows editing a phone book entry. Went back to the main phone book page, press Enter on the first line, and then F6. Now the entry is edit-able. Put in my own system and connected just fine, with mostly all default settings. Tried a Zmodem download and it failed, just as it seems to with other telecom programs I've used in DOSBox. Timing issues as I recall, not sure that can be fixed. Anyway... the key is to use F6 for editing the phone book.
The problem is that DOSBox and its shims to connect to Internet
BBSes don't actually support Telnet (or may require some special configuration to enable). If you connect to an RLogin port (513)
instead of Telnet (23), likely, those file transfers will work
just fine: atd yourbbs:513
Digital Man wrote to Gamgee <=-
It has been a long time, but in TeleMate's dialing directory, supposedly you should be able to press Insert to insert a new BBS entry. However, when I press insert, it tries to dial (and of course, there's no BBS information in that entry for it to use). I was curious if there's something I forgot about adding an entry into TeleMate's dialing directory, or perhaps if it has some weird behavior in DOSBox?
I set this up in DOSBox this morning to check it out. I got the same strange results with the Insert key (using Telemate v4.20). I paged through the (rather difficult to follow) "Help" screens (F1 I think), and eventually saw that "F6" allows editing a phone book entry. Went back to the main phone book page, press Enter on the first line, and then F6.
Now the entry is edit-able. Put in my own system and connected just fine, with mostly all default settings. Tried a Zmodem download and it failed, just as it seems to with other telecom programs I've used in DOSBox. Timing issues as I recall, not sure that can be fixed. Anyway... the key is to use F6 for editing the phone book.
The problem is that DOSBox and its shims to connect to Internet
BBSes don't actually support Telnet (or may require some special configuration to enable). If you connect to an RLogin port (513) instead of Telnet (23), likely, those file transfers will work
just fine: atd yourbbs:513
Excellent, thanks DM. I'll be testing this again very soon,
appreciate the info!
Re: TeleMate dialing directory
By: Underminer to Digital Man on Sat Aug 01 2020 05:51 pm
Re: TeleMate dialing directory
By: Digital Man to Gamgee on Sat Aug 01 2020 02:39 pm
The problem is that DOSBox and its shims to connect to Internet BBSes don't actually support Telnet (or may require some special configuration to enable). If you connect to an RLogin port (513) instead of Telnet (23),
Really? Maybe it's different on *nix vs Windows, 'cause I've used dosbox with both Telix and Ripterm off and on for years just for giggles, and never had a problem with downloads working out of the box.
Maybe you did something to enable Telnet?
Maybe you did something to enable Telnet?
Re: TeleMate dialing directory
By: Digital Man to Underminer on Sat Aug 01 2020 08:46 pm
Maybe you did something to enable Telnet?
It's entirely possible I edited a conf in a half asleep state at some point, but I don't THINK I did.
the BBS. "ATNET0" turns off Telnet support. Pretty stupid. Is this even documented anywhere? Oh, and that DOSBox source code is pretty sad stuff (at least where the serial/modem/telnet stuff is implemented).
only way I see currently to enable Telnet mode for 'modem' serial devices is via the "ATNET1" command sent to the soft-modem before "calling" a Telnet BBS.
digital man
On 08-01-20 17:51, Underminer wrote to Digital Man <=-
Really? Maybe it's different on *nix vs Windows, 'cause I've used
dosbox with both Telix and Ripterm off and on for years just for
giggles, and never had a problem with downloads working out of the box.
On 08-01-20 21:44, Digital Man wrote to Gamgee <=-
BTW, by looking at the DOSBox source code, I found out how you enable telnet support for the built-in soft modem: type "ATNET1" before
dialing the BBS. "ATNET0" turns off Telnet support. Pretty stupid. Is
this even documented anywhere? Oh, and that DOSBox source code is
pretty sad stuff (at least where the serial/modem/telnet stuff is implemented).
Digital Man wrote to Gamgee <=-
I set this up in DOSBox this morning to check it out. I got the same strange results with the Insert key (using Telemate v4.20). I paged through the (rather difficult to follow) "Help" screens (F1 I think), and eventually saw that "F6" allows editing a phone book entry. Went back to the main phone book page, press Enter on the first line, and then F6.
Now the entry is edit-able. Put in my own system and connected just fine, with mostly all default settings. Tried a Zmodem download and it failed, just as it seems to with other telecom programs I've used in DOSBox. Timing issues as I recall, not sure that can be fixed. Anyway... the key is to use F6 for editing the phone book.
The problem is that DOSBox and its shims to connect to Internet
BBSes don't actually support Telnet (or may require some special configuration to enable). If you connect to an RLogin port (513) instead of Telnet (23), likely, those file transfers will work
just fine: atd yourbbs:513
Excellent, thanks DM. I'll be testing this again very soon,
appreciate the info!
BTW, by looking at the DOSBox source code, I found out how you
enable telnet support for the built-in soft modem: type "ATNET1"
before dialing the BBS. "ATNET0" turns off Telnet support. Pretty
stupid. Is this even documented anywhere? Oh, and that DOSBox
source code is pretty sad stuff (at least where the
serial/modem/telnet stuff is implemented).
Digital Man wrote to Underminer <=-
The problem is that DOSBox and its shims to connect to Internet BBSes don't actually support Telnet (or may require some special configuration to enable). If you connect to an RLogin port (513) instead of Telnet (23),
Really? Maybe it's different on *nix vs Windows, 'cause I've used dosbox with both Telix and Ripterm off and on for years just for giggles, and never had a problem with downloads working out of the box.
Maybe you did something to enable Telnet?
Oh, FYI: https://sourceforge.net/p/dosbox/bugs/538/
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