Hello Vk3jed!

** On Wednesday 24.06.20 - 05:08, vk3jed wrote to Retro Guy:

Bust looking through rocksolifbbs.com. Performance is actually quite
snappy, a refreshing change from many other web forums. Navigation is
not quite me though, it's "go into a thread and back out", whereas I
prefer being able to continue in a more linear fashion, going from
thread to (next) thread with a single (ideally keyboard command) event.

I am equally impressed with the presentation and performance.

Regarding "go into a thread and back out", you don't really have to do
that. The messages are already listed and in full display in
chronological order.

But I am inpressed. The display of a thread is great, showing the entire thread view, first as a tree, then all of the posts.

The messages seem to already be in thread order. The thread tree is very handy to locate and identify a message from a particular person too.

Speaking of message presentation on mobile, one of synchronet's webby solutions (the one with the light-color display, the hamburger, etc..
seems to be pretty good too. That one has the "next" and "back"
navigation buttons that you are refering to?


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On 06-25-20 21:12, Ogg wrote to All <=-

I am equally impressed with the presentation and performance.

Yeah

Regarding "go into a thread and back out", you don't really have to do that. The messages are already listed and in full display in chronological order.

in different threads? Yeaj I noticed that entire threads are shown. Compared to here (offline), where I just keep pressing the <enter> key until I get to the end. :)

The messages seem to already be in thread order. The thread tree is
very handy to locate and identify a message from a particular person
too.

Agree, these are strong points in the interface.

Speaking of message presentation on mobile, one of synchronet's webby solutions (the one with the light-color display, the hamburger, etc.. seems to be pretty good too. That one has the "next" and "back" navigation buttons that you are refering to?

I suspect that's ECwebv4, which I'm yet to install. Keep meaning to, but never get around to it.


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Hello Vk3jed!

** On Friday 26.06.20 - 07:45, vk3jed wrote to Ogg:

Speaking of message presentation on mobile, one of synchronet's webby
solutions (the one with the light-color display, the hamburger, etc..
seems to be pretty good too. That one has the "next" and "back"
navigation buttons that you are refering to?

I suspect that's ECwebv4, which I'm yet to install. Keep meaning to,
but never get around to it.

I don't know what it's officially called. I'm just on the user side of
that thing. But I think you will discover that it is a pretty good
solution for the mobile device user. The thread/message navigation
buttons might impress you. But found myself getting lost reading a
thread, and not getting back to the next topic I might be interested in.
It needs a visual indicator of which messages have been read, and thread-
tree view.


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Re: Re: looking through rocksolifbbs.com
By: Ogg to Vk3jed on Tue Jun 30 2020 21:31:00

I suspect that's ECwebv4, which I'm yet to install. Keep meaning to,
but never get around to it.

I don't know what it's officially called. I'm just on the user side of

"ecweb v4" is as official a name as any, or at least most people around here would know what you meant by it. It doesn't really have a name.

that thing. But I think you will discover that it is a pretty good solution for the mobile device user. The thread/message navigation buttons might impress you. But found myself getting lost reading a

He wouldn't care for it, but he might install it for the sake of whatever users he may have. He's fairly particular about how he consumes this sort of content. :)

thread, and not getting back to the next topic I might be interested in. It needs a visual indicator of which messages have been read,

"Which messages have been read" is a bit problematic. Per-message read/unread information is not available. You have a pointer for the entire sub board. Messages older than that pointer are "read", messages newer than that pointer are "unread".

The web UI is sort of lying to you by presenting the messages as being sorted into thread. In reality they're stored in a chronologically linear format.

Suppose you have "Thread A" and "Thread B", neither of which you have read. Thread A contains the newest message in the sub. You read it first. Your scan pointer is now set to the newest message in the sub. Now you go back and open Thread B. As far as the BBS is concerned, you've already read all of those messages, even if you've never actually seen them before.

There are solutions, but they become more difficult to apply when you think about making it consistent across all message reading interfaces on the BBS (telnet/ssh, qwk, nntp, imap, etc.)

For what it's worth, there is a visual indicator of an unread message: a star beside the header line of the message (not sure why it's not a sealed envelope or a different background colour, but whatever). And there are labels showing how many unread messages are waiting in a group, sub, or thread. Of course, this only applies if you're logged in.

and thread-tree view.

Depending on what you mean by that, it may or may not be doable. The "threading" data that's available isn't always accurate, so attempts to show a reddit-like tree of who replied to whom might end up with some disjointed orphaned messages here and there.

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On 06-30-20 21:31, Ogg wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I don't know what it's officially called. I'm just on the user side of that thing. But I think you will discover that it is a pretty good solution for the mobile device user. The thread/message navigation buttons might impress you. But found myself getting lost reading a thread, and not getting back to the next topic I might be interested
in. It needs a visual indicator of which messages have been read, and thread- tree view.

Yeah, I must get around to installing ecweb4. And I agree, sometimes a thread tree view is useful.


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