Hello Dennisk!

** On Wednesday 17.06.20 - 06:35, dennisk wrote to Vk3jed:

I find web forums slow and cumbersome. It's like trying to wade
through treacle.

Good webforums, like vogons.org and forum.dlang.org run quite well. The
good thing about some forums, is they are searchable, very useful for places where people are asking questions and for help.

Those two are wonderful. Quick internet response.

Facebook is the worst of both worlds. Not only is it slow, it's not searchable.

Facebook GROUPS *are* searchable. I am only familiar with one group that
I need to visit every once in a while:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/Homeagainbancroft2/

There is a Search box on the left side.

There is a sysop who operates this one:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/bbsing2.0/

But I am not a member of that group, so I couldn't tell you if there are sub-groups like a decent forum or not.

For a faster experience on Facebook, try the mobile interface. Works just fine on a regular pc. Just start your visit with https://m.facebook.com

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On 6/17/2020 2:27 PM, Ogg wrote:

Facebook is the worst of both worlds. Not only is it slow, it's not
searchable.

Facebook GROUPS *are* searchable. I am only familiar with one group that
I need to visit every once in a while:

I'm inclined to feel that Facebook's Groups interface is about as good
as a BBS ui could be. To some extent, I prefer a newsgroup reader, but
a lot of times it all just gets lost, requires specifically quoting
instead of maintained threads etc.

It's not everyone's taste, and not mine, but I don't think a
message/reply hierarchy gets much better than Facebook's in practice.
That doesn't mean they don't have (many) issues.

For a faster experience on Facebook, try the mobile interface. Works just fine on a regular pc. Just start your visit with https://m.facebook.com

Agreed.. there's also Face Slim as an application wrapper for android on F-Droid app store...

I use Caprine on the desktop (electron wrapper for messenger.com) ui for facebook messenger.

With the implosion of XMPP and the failure of open source social network efforts to gain traction. Not to mention also rans like Gab, Minds,
Parler, Wehe and others to gain much traction... I'm not sure there's
room for upstarts anymore. Gab got close, then there were shutterred by Google for not censoring content (and yeah, there was some offensive
shit in there). Facebook, Twitter and YouTube have effectively a lock
in social media (and the upstarts have been bought by FB).

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Re: Re: /good web forums
By: Tracker1 to Ogg on Wed Jun 17 2020 04:00 pm

With the implosion of XMPP and the failure of open source social network efforts to gain traction. Not to mention also rans like Gab, Minds,
Parler, Wehe and others to gain much traction... I'm not sure there's
room for upstarts anymore. Gab got close, then there were shutterred by Google for not censoring content (and yeah, there was some offensive
shit in there). Facebook, Twitter and YouTube have effectively a lock
in social media (and the upstarts have been bought by FB).

Also, don't forget Gab is hated by lots of payment processors and thus is
being denied income, which is a troublesome blow for any firm.

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Arelor wrote to Tracker1 <=-

With the implosion of XMPP and the failure of open source social network efforts to gain traction. Not to mention also rans like Gab, Minds,
Parler, Wehe and others to gain much traction...

Also, don't forget Gab is hated by lots of payment processors and thus
is being denied income, which is a troublesome blow for any firm.

I've played with a couple of social networks in the fediverse, but
without having people I know on it, it's a little hard to explore it.
Anyone here care to post your identities on some of the other social
networks?

I'm @poindexter@mastadon.social, and @poindexter:matrix.org.




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Tracker1 wrote to Ogg <=-

With the implosion of XMPP and the failure of open source social
network efforts to gain traction. Not to mention also rans like Gab, Minds, Parler, Wehe and others to gain much traction... I'm not sure there's room for upstarts anymore. Gab got close, then there were shutterred by Google for not censoring content (and yeah, there was
some offensive shit in there). Facebook, Twitter and YouTube have effectively a lock in social media (and the upstarts have been bought
by FB).

Gab's not dead. They've garnered a massive influx of new users the last month or so. The owner has been bragging about it.

As long as half the country is at risk of being censored on social media, gab will continue to exist. They don't have to be the largest to succeed.

With respect to offensive comments, people have grown so hypersensitive that they're attempting to redefine free speech. Anyway, it's easy enough to block someone on these networks.

For the record, I don't have an account on gab or any other social network, but I am watching the drama.

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On 6/19/2020 7:50 AM, calcmandan wrote:

With the implosion of XMPP and the failure of open source social
network efforts to gain traction. Not to mention also rans like Gab,
Minds, Parler, Wehe and others to gain much traction... I'm not sure
there's room for upstarts anymore. Gab got close, then there were
shutterred by Google for not censoring content (and yeah, there was
some offensive shit in there). Facebook, Twitter and YouTube have
effectively a lock in social media (and the upstarts have been bought
by FB).

Gab's not dead. They've garnered a massive influx of new users the last month or so. The owner has been bragging about it.

As long as half the country is at risk of being censored on social media, gab will continue to exist. They don't have to be the largest to succeed.

Most likely, Parler has seen a massive uptick as well. I've also
enjoyed it a bit more than Gab.

With respect to offensive comments, people have grown so hypersensitive that they're attempting to redefine free speech. Anyway, it's easy enough to block someone on these networks.

I completely agree... I'm not saying they should be cancelled, only that
the network was largely that (racist commentary) when I first looked at
it, of course my initial impression of Pinterest was offputting (looked
like a site for teenage girls) as well.

For the record, I don't have an account on gab or any other social network, but
I am watching the drama.

I'm tracker1 or aztracker1 on most social media sites.

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Tracker1 wrote to calcmandan <=-

Most likely, Parler has seen a massive uptick as well. I've also
enjoyed it a bit more than Gab.

I joined Parler to support the cause of preserving the notion of free thought and speech. I've logged in once and added a number of requisite conservative voices including The Donald. Honestly, don't really see a need to connect often. I'm not one for social networks.

Anyway, gab and parler have something going for them and it's delightful. I'm hoping for lawsuits going against these huge lefty platforms who impose monopolistic power on others. I hope the pain is felt to their bones.

With respect to offensive comments, people have grown so hypersensitive that they're attempting to redefine free speech. Anyway, it's easy enough to

block

someone on these networks.

I completely agree... I'm not saying they should be cancelled, only
that the network was largely that (racist commentary) when I first
looked at it, of course my initial impression of Pinterest was
offputting (looked like a site for teenage girls) as well.

Oh sure, racists exist in all walks of life. From my perspective, those on the left are the most racist by nature. They've historically owned racism. I've felt
this way since college. Identity politics, as they call it, is a strange animal. I was never able to put it to the right terms until recently. Dave Rubin
interviewed someone recently where this was the actual topic. Both rescued themselves recently from the maw of liberalism. They discussed this racism observed on the left and they have an insider's perspective.

This is how identity politics equates to racism, descibed something like this: When approached by someone, the first thing they do is look at their ethnic appearance (ie skin color). They adjust how they treat the person based on that judgement. Racism.

Overzealous placating of certain races pinpoints the hidden true feelings. This is why the majority of the BLM extremists and rioters are caucasian lefties.

Once you get these 'lefties' behind closed doors, the racial jokes are told freely and with a snide bit of laughter.

My uncle-in-law, a self proclaimed and proud socialist, is as racist as you'd expect
harkening back to previous eras. It's scary and sobering when you realize how hidden it is. It's so bad, when he visits the house, our black cat will sit on his lap and he'll say, 'hey blacky.' He thinks it's funny.

I'm tracker1 or aztracker1 on most social media sites.

Mkay.

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