• they do not list what th

    From August Abolins@VERT/PALANT to Vk3Jed on Saturday, April 25, 2020 23:28:00
    Hi Vk3Jed,
    In a message to Poindexter Fortran you wrote:

    Interestingly, they do not list what the ingredient is to produce
    the flavour, other than "natural flavour".

    People. It's made of people.

    Soylent Green. ;)

    A classic. Over-acting at the big reveal, but still an interesting vision of voluntary end-of-life as well.


    ..Regards,
    August

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to August Abolins on Sunday, April 26, 2020 19:00:00
    On 04-25-20 23:28, August Abolins wrote to Vk3Jed <=-

    Soylent Green. ;)

    A classic. Over-acting at the big reveal, but still an interesting
    vision of voluntary end-of-life as well.

    Yes, I enjoyed it. :)


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to August Abolins on Sunday, April 26, 2020 09:30:00
    Re: they do not list what th
    By: August Abolins to Vk3Jed on Sat Apr 25 2020 11:28 pm

    Hi Vk3Jed,
    In a message to Poindexter Fortran you wrote:

    Interestingly, they do not list what the ingredient is to produce
    the flavour, other than "natural flavour".

    People. It's made of people.

    Soylent Green. ;)

    A classic. Over-acting at the big reveal, but still an interesting vision o voluntary end-of-life as well.


    ..Regards,
    August

    * SeM. 2.26 * I'm not dead. I'm electroencephelographically challenged.

    Funny thing how in the early 1970's they predicted we could not prodcue
    enough food to feed everyone on earht by the early 2000's, however we
    actually yield 2-3 times the corn, beans and grain we did back then. The interstate highway system threw a heavy blow on the railroad system, yet it's carrying twice it's capacity of goods on half the number of tracks.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to August Abolins on Sunday, April 26, 2020 09:29:00
    August Abolins wrote to Vk3Jed <=-

    A classic. Over-acting at the big reveal, but still an interesting
    vision of voluntary end-of-life as well.

    Wasn't it set in 2017?


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Moondog on Sunday, April 26, 2020 15:52:14
    Re: they do not list what th
    By: Moondog to August Abolins on Sun Apr 26 2020 09:30 am

    Funny thing how in the early 1970's they predicted we could not prodcue enough food to feed everyone on earht by the early 2000's, however we actually yield 2-3 times the corn, beans and grain we did back then.

    I think I'd prefer the corn, beans and grains from back then. :)

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/TWODUDES to Moondog on Monday, April 27, 2020 12:38:00
    Moondog wrote to August Abolins <=-

    Funny thing how in the early 1970's they predicted we could not prodcue enough food to feed everyone on earht by the early 2000's, however we actually yield 2-3 times the corn, beans and grain we did back then.
    The interstate highway system threw a heavy blow on the railroad
    system, yet it's carrying twice it's capacity of goods on half the
    number of tracks.

    Scott Adams calls this the Law of Slow-Moving Disasters.

    It's the same issue with "peak oil", "climate change", etc. All these "disasters" take generations to fully develop and during that time, things change (usually for the better) to head off the "disaster".

    I used to work at GM Powertrain about 20 years ago. The car engines we were developing at that time actually cleaned the air of pollutants. Yes, the gasses that came out of the tail pipe had less pollutants than the air coming in (the tests that we were doing were actually measuring those things).

    Now, keep in mind that this was downtown Flint (so the air coming in wasn't very clean) and this is before the Left "moved the goal posts" by declaring CO2 a "pollutant".


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dr. What on Tuesday, April 28, 2020 11:46:00
    Re: they do not list what th
    By: Dr. What to Moondog on Mon Apr 27 2020 12:38 pm

    Moondog wrote to August Abolins <=-

    Funny thing how in the early 1970's they predicted we could not prodcue enough food to feed everyone on earht by the early 2000's, however we actually yield 2-3 times the corn, beans and grain we did back then. The interstate highway system threw a heavy blow on the railroad system, yet it's carrying twice it's capacity of goods on half the number of tracks.

    Scott Adams calls this the Law of Slow-Moving Disasters.

    It's the same issue with "peak oil", "climate change", etc. All these "disasters" take generations to fully develop and during that time, things change (usually for the better) to head off the "disaster".

    I used to work at GM Powertrain about 20 years ago. The car engines we were developing at that time actually cleaned the air of pollutants. Yes, the gasses that came out of the tail pipe had less pollutants than the air comin in (the tests that we were doing were actually measuring those things).

    Now, keep in mind that this was downtown Flint (so the air coming in wasn't very clean) and this is before the Left "moved the goal posts" by declaring a "pollutant".


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    Futurists also make prediction based on what we know now or what we think is next. This does not allow for technologies or branches of technologies that did not exist or couldn't have been predicted. It's all extensions of what
    we have now. Just because we don't have the slightest answer, that doesn't mean we'll ever have one. Just because we can possibly do something doesn't necessarily mean we'll go in that direction. I seen an old Modern Mechanix magazine from 1950 predicting life in 2000, and they predicted fax machines
    and video conferencing as a means to work from home, however they also
    believed we'd all live in metal trailers, wear only sythetic materials, and
    eat our TV dinners on plastic furniute we could easily hose off.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/TWODUDES to Moondog on Wednesday, April 29, 2020 10:20:00
    Moondog wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Futurists also make prediction based on what we know now or what we
    think is next. This does not allow for technologies or branches of technologies that did not exist or couldn't have been predicted. It's
    all extensions of what we have now. Just because we don't have the slightest answer, that doesn't mean we'll ever have one. Just because
    we can possibly do something doesn't necessarily mean we'll go in that direction. I seen an old Modern Mechanix magazine from 1950 predicting life in 2000, and they predicted fax machines and video conferencing as
    a means to work from home, however they also believed we'd all live in metal trailers, wear only sythetic materials, and eat our TV dinners on plastic furniute we could easily hose off.

    Hmmm.. I'm working from home and the idea of eating TV dinners on plastic furnature that I can easily hose off *does* sound like a good idea.

    But I don't think my wife will go for it.


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dr. What on Wednesday, April 29, 2020 21:54:00
    Re: they do not list what th
    By: Dr. What to Moondog on Wed Apr 29 2020 10:20 am

    Moondog wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Futurists also make prediction based on what we know now or what we think is next. This does not allow for technologies or branches of technologies that did not exist or couldn't have been predicted. It's all extensions of what we have now. Just because we don't have the slightest answer, that doesn't mean we'll ever have one. Just because we can possibly do something doesn't necessarily mean we'll go in that direction. I seen an old Modern Mechanix magazine from 1950 predicting life in 2000, and they predicted fax machines and video conferencing as a means to work from home, however they also believed we'd all live in metal trailers, wear only sythetic materials, and eat our TV dinners on plastic furniute we could easily hose off.

    Hmmm.. I'm working from home and the idea of eating TV dinners on plastic furnature that I can easily hose off *does* sound like a good idea.

    But I don't think my wife will go for it.


    ... I have been poor and I have been rich. Rich is better.

    Froaen or shelf stable dinners would have to get a whole lot better before people no longermake meals from scratch

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Moondog on Thursday, April 30, 2020 07:05:00
    Moondog wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Froaen or shelf stable dinners would have to get a whole lot better
    before people no longermake meals from scratch

    There was one of those "Your house of the future" films from the 1950s - you know, the one where Dad flies in on an air car or jet pack from his job to
    be home with his wife and two kids?

    They showed the mom asking everyone what they wanted for dinner, pulling
    four dinners out of the freezer, sliding them into a slotted oven, then fade to a scene of a conveyor belt with chefs wearing toques and whites placing food into those metal trays with tongs, pouring gravy with a ladle, scooping the peas and carrots on, etc...


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/TWODUDES to Moondog on Friday, May 01, 2020 07:24:00
    Moondog wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Froaen or shelf stable dinners would have to get a whole lot better
    before people no longermake meals from scratch

    I have to agree with you there. The tastiest that I remember were the ones from Hormel. But they had so much sodium in them that they'd probably explode if you added any water to them.

    I've been making my own meals now for well over a decade and when some people ask me why, I tell them it's so that *I* get to decide what goes into them. And I'm eating much healthier for is.

    But I am amazed at the number of people today who lack even basic kitchen skills.


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Friday, May 01, 2020 11:25:00
    Re: Re: they do not list what
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Moondog on Thu Apr 30 2020 07:05 am

    Moondog wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Froaen or shelf stable dinners would have to get a whole lot better before people no longermake meals from scratch

    There was one of those "Your house of the future" films from the 1950s - you know, the one where Dad flies in on an air car or jet pack from his job to be home with his wife and two kids?

    They showed the mom asking everyone what they wanted for dinner, pulling four dinners out of the freezer, sliding them into a slotted oven, then fade to a scene of a conveyor belt with chefs wearing toques and whites placing food into those metal trays with tongs, pouring gravy with a ladle, scooping the peas and carrots on, etc...


    ... Start where you are. Use what you have. Do what you can.

    Besides having frozen dinners, another wonder items were dehydrated shelf stable
    meals. Place each item in a saucer, add some water, then place in the oven
    to allow the steam to evenly reconstitute the food items. Worked well with smaller thinly cut items and pastes or soups. In the old films they would magically re-hydrate an entire bone-in turkey or a ham.

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