• Distributed computing

    From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to All on Tuesday, April 21, 2020 11:55:45
    I'm just curious if anyone here uses their computer for distributed computing projects?

    The first I heard of was SETI@Home soon after it started in 1999, which I have participated in off and on over the years. After several years, they went from a stand-alone SETI@Home client to a more general framework for distributed computing called BOINC (Berkeley Online Infrastructure for Network Computing):
    https://boinc.berkeley.edu
    BOINC allows organizations to manage distributed computing work, by creating computer programs that allow peoples' computers to process work distributed by their srever, and BOINC organizes the data into work units & such and provides things like redundant checking, statistics on work units processed, etc.. There are projects running in BOINC that process data for things like medical research, doing calculations for astronomical data, etc..

    SETI@Home recently announced that they won't be sending any more work units, and they want to focus on analyzing all the data they've received back from SETI@Home. So I've re-enabled some of the other BOINC projects I joined a while ago: World Community Grid (which processes data for scientific research in health and medical areas), Rosetta@Home (which processes data for research in protien structure and protien structure prediction), and Milkyway@Home (which processes data to generate 3D models of stellar streams in the milky way).

    Nightfox

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  • From Nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to Nightfox on Tuesday, April 21, 2020 19:05:31
    Nightfox wrote:
    I'm just curious if anyone here uses their computer for distributed computing projects?

    The first I heard of was SETI@Home soon after it started in 1999, which I have participated in off and on over the years. After several years, they went from a stand-alone SETI@Home client to a more general framework for distributed computing called BOINC (Berkeley Online Infrastructure for Network Computing):
    https://boinc.berkeley.edu
    BOINC allows organizations to manage distributed computing work, by creating computer programs that allow peoples' computers to process work distributed by their srever, and BOINC organizes the data into work units & such and provides things like redundant checking, statistics on work units processed, etc.. There are projects running in BOINC that process data for things like medical research, doing calculations for astronomical data, etc..

    SETI@Home recently announced that they won't be sending any more work units, and they want to focus on analyzing all the data they've received back from SETI@Home. So I've re-enabled some of the other BOINC projects I joined a while ago: World Community Grid (which processes data for scientific research in health and medical areas), Rosetta@Home (which processes data for research in protien structure and protien structure prediction), and Milkyway@Home (which processes data to generate 3D models of stellar streams in the milky way).

    Nightfox

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    I participated in both SETI@Home and was running BOINC until I rebuilt my computer and never reinstalled it. I've been looking at other projects such
    as Zooniverse https://www.zooniverse.org/ where you actually join in and
    make decisions. I'm doing the asteroid hunter one on and off.

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  • From Mastermind@VERT to Nightfox on Tuesday, April 21, 2020 22:56:31
    Re: Distributed computing
    By: Nightfox to All on Tue Apr 21 2020 11:55 am

    I'm just curious if anyone here uses their computer for distributed computing projects?

    The first I heard of was SETI@Home soon after it started in 1999, which I have participated in off and on over the years. After several years, they went from a stand-alone SETI@Home client to a more general framework for distributed computing called BOINC (Berkeley Online Infrastructure for Network Computing): https://boinc.berkeley.edu BOINC allows organizations to manage distributed computing work, by creating computer programs that allow peoples' computers to process work distributed by their srever, and BOINC organizes the data into work units & such and provides things like redundant checking, statistics on work units processed, etc.. There are projects running in BOINC that process data for things like medical research, doing calculations for astronomical data, etc..

    SETI@Home recently announced that they won't be sending any more work units, and they want to focus on analyzing all the data they've received back from SETI@Home. So I've re-enabled some of the other BOINC projects I joined a while ago: World Community Grid (which processes data for scientific research in health and medical areas), Rosetta@Home (which processes data for research in protien structure and protien structure prediction), and Milkyway@Home (which processes data to generate 3D models of stellar streams in the milky way).

    Nightfox

    i used to participate in SETI@home and now have an iMac logged into Folding@home... i didnt know of BOINC and the others.. will have to check it out, thanks!!

    M@STERMiND

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Mastermind on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 00:44:46
    Re: Distributed computing
    By: Mastermind to Nightfox on Tue Apr 21 2020 10:56 pm

    i used to participate in SETI@home and now have an iMac logged into Folding@home... i didnt know of BOINC and the others.. will have to check it out, thanks!!

    SETI@Home moved to BOINC a long time ago, around 2002 I think..

    Nightfox

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  • From calcmandan@VERT/DIGDIST to Nelgin on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 02:25:00
    Nelgin wrote to Nightfox <=-

    I participated in both SETI@Home and was running BOINC until I rebuilt
    my computer and never reinstalled it. I've been looking at other
    projects such as Zooniverse https://www.zooniverse.org/ where you
    actually join in and make decisions. I'm doing the asteroid hunter one
    on and off.

    I joined seti@home back in 98 i think. I run it off and on these days.

    The zooniverse is a great project. I've contributed in the galaxyzoo and planetzoo projects from time to time. Haven't done it in a while. With
    hundreds of billions of galaxies to rule on, it gets daunting and feels
    like I'm not making a dent.

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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to Nightfox on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 08:19:02
    I'm just curious if anyone here uses their computer for distributed computing projects?

    used to for a long time, especially Seti and Einstein@Home.

    But never used a powerfull machine so even if I started in 1999 only have 587299 credits

    Now i do useless distributed stuff like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_Sheep . Won't save the world but it
    look nice :-)

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Ennev on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 14:11:28
    Re: Re: Distributed computing
    By: Ennev to Nightfox on Wed Apr 22 2020 08:19 am

    used to for a long time, especially Seti and Einstein@Home.

    But never used a powerfull machine so even if I started in 1999 only have 587299 credits

    I didn't have a very powerful PC when I started in 1999 either, but I let it run for quite a while and accumulated some credits. setiathome.berkeley.edu says I have 22,769 hours of classic SETI@Home CPU time and 2,808 classic SETI@Home work units.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to calcmandan on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 14:12:37
    Re: Re: Distributed computing
    By: calcmandan to Nelgin on Wed Apr 22 2020 02:25 am

    I joined seti@home back in 98 i think. I run it off and on these days.

    SETI@Home didn't launch until May 1999.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to calcmandan on Thursday, April 23, 2020 01:30:38
    calcmandan wrote:
    Nelgin wrote to Nightfox <=-

    I participated in both SETI@Home and was running BOINC until I rebuilt
    my computer and never reinstalled it. I've been looking at other
    projects such as Zooniverse https://www.zooniverse.org/ where you
    actually join in and make decisions. I'm doing the asteroid hunter one
    on and off.

    I joined seti@home back in 98 i think. I run it off and on these days.

    The zooniverse is a great project. I've contributed in the galaxyzoo and planetzoo projects from time to time. Haven't done it in a while. With hundreds of billions of galaxies to rule on, it gets daunting and feels
    like I'm not making a dent.

    You never know. I also ran seti@home on and off way back when, late 90's. I often forget about the zooniverse stuff, I pop back when someone remind me (like this post!)

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  • From Nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to Nightfox on Thursday, April 23, 2020 01:33:01
    Nightfox wrote:
    Re: Re: Distributed computing
    By: calcmandan to Nelgin on Wed Apr 22 2020 02:25 am

    I joined seti@home back in 98 i think. I run it off and on these days.

    SETI@Home didn't launch until May 1999.


    They must have got their dates mixed up. I was running in when I lived in Richardson, TX and moved into the new house in July 1999. I'm sure I had
    been running it longer than a couple of months.

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  • From Nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to Ennev on Thursday, April 23, 2020 01:47:52
    Ennev wrote:
    I'm just curious if anyone here uses their computer for distributed
    computing projects?

    used to for a long time, especially Seti and Einstein@Home.

    But never used a powerfull machine so even if I started in 1999 only have 587299 credits

    Now i do useless distributed stuff like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_Sheep . Won't save the world but it look nice :-)

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  • From Nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to Nightfox on Thursday, April 23, 2020 02:11:20
    Nightfox wrote:
    Re: Re: Distributed computing
    By: Ennev to Nightfox on Wed Apr 22 2020 08:19 am

    used to for a long time, especially Seti and Einstein@Home.

    But never used a powerfull machine so even if I started in 1999 only have
    587299 credits

    I didn't have a very powerful PC when I started in 1999 either, but I let it run for quite a while and accumulated some credits. setiathome.berkeley.edu says I have 22,769 hours of classic SETI@Home CPU time and 2,808 classic SETI@Home work units.

    Nightfox

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    Total credit 1,832,303
    Recent average credit 0.07
    SETI@home classic workunits 21
    SETI@home classic CPU time 1,084 hours

    Seems I joined 12 Oct 1999.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Nelgin on Thursday, April 23, 2020 01:59:20
    Re: Re: Distributed computing
    By: Nelgin to Nightfox on Thu Apr 23 2020 01:33 am

    I joined seti@home back in 98 i think. I run it off and on these
    days.

    SETI@Home didn't launch until May 1999.

    They must have got their dates mixed up. I was running in when I lived in Richardson, TX and moved into the new house in July 1999. I'm sure I had been running it longer than a couple of months.

    I clearly remember signing up for SETI@Home in 1999 soon after I had heard about it. They say I created my account on May 20, 1999, and their site says SETI@Home was released to the public in May 1999:
    https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/classic.php

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  • From Thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to Nightfox on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 09:40:00
    Nightfox wrote to All <=-

    I'm just curious if anyone here uses their computer for distributed computing projects?

    The first I heard of was SETI@Home soon after it started in 1999, which
    I have participated in off and on over the years. After several years, they went from a stand-alone SETI@Home client to a more general
    framework for distributed computing called BOINC (Berkeley Online Infrastructure for Network Computing): https://boinc.berkeley.edu
    BOINC allows organizations to manage distributed computing work, by creating computer programs that allow peoples' computers to process
    work distributed by their srever, and BOINC organizes the data into
    work units & such and provides things like redundant checking,
    statistics on work units processed, etc.. There are projects running
    in BOINC that process data for things like medical research, doing calculations for astronomical data, etc..

    SETI@Home recently announced that they won't be sending any more work units, and they want to focus on analyzing all the data they've
    received back from SETI@Home. So I've re-enabled some of the other
    BOINC projects I joined a while ago: World Community Grid (which
    processes data for scientific research in health and medical areas), Rosetta@Home (which processes data for research in protien structure
    and protien structure prediction), and Milkyway@Home (which processes
    data to generate 3D models of stellar streams in the milky way).

    I've been running Seti@Home for years and now Boinc. I am doing the Rosetta project at this time which is working on Covid. I had also been a part of Rosetta when they were looking for a Vaccine for Anthrax.



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  • From calcmandan@VERT/DIGDIST to Nelgin on Thursday, April 23, 2020 10:46:00
    Nelgin wrote to Nightfox <=-

    Nightfox wrote:
    Re: Re: Distributed computing
    By: Ennev to Nightfox on Wed Apr 22 2020 08:19 am

    used to for a long time, especially Seti and Einstein@Home.

    But never used a powerfull machine so even if I started in 1999 only have
    587299 credits

    I didn't have a very powerful PC when I started in 1999 either, but I let
    it
    run for quite a while and accumulated some credits. setiathome.berkeley.edu says I have 22,769 hours of classic SETI@Home
    CPU time and 2,808 classic SETI@Home work units. N>
    Nightfox

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    Total credit 1,832,303
    Recent average credit 0.07
    SETI@home classic workunits 21
    SETI@home classic CPU time 1,084 hours

    Seems I joined 12 Oct 1999.

    Here's mine:

    SETI@home member since 5 Jun 1999
    User ID 8859468
    Total credit 9,746
    Recent average credit 0.09
    SETI@home classic workunits 160
    SETI@home classic CPU time 3,950 hours
    World Rank 1,800,546 out of 4,408,837 (59.1605 percentile)

    The numbers don't reflect the boinc numbers when i had lost my original login information and used a new account. Later I got my old account back.

    Taking me back to memory lane. Back when I did this I had a Pentium II and
    it took well over a day to process one packet.

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  • From calcmandan@VERT/DIGDIST to Thumper on Thursday, April 23, 2020 10:48:00
    Thumper wrote to Nightfox <=-

    Nightfox wrote to All <=-

    I'm just curious if anyone here uses their computer for distributed computing projects?

    The first I heard of was SETI@Home soon after it started in 1999, which
    I have participated in off and on over the years. After several years, they went from a stand-alone SETI@Home client to a more general
    framework for distributed computing called BOINC (Berkeley Online Infrastructure for Network Computing): https://boinc.berkeley.edu
    BOINC allows organizations to manage distributed computing work, by creating computer programs that allow peoples' computers to process
    work distributed by their srever, and BOINC organizes the data into
    work units & such and provides things like redundant checking,
    statistics on work units processed, etc.. There are projects running
    in BOINC that process data for things like medical research, doing calculations for astronomical data, etc..

    SETI@Home recently announced that they won't be sending any more work units, and they want to focus on analyzing all the data they've
    received back from SETI@Home. So I've re-enabled some of the other
    BOINC projects I joined a while ago: World Community Grid (which
    processes data for scientific research in health and medical areas), Rosetta@Home (which processes data for research in protien structure
    and protien structure prediction), and Milkyway@Home (which processes
    data to generate 3D models of stellar streams in the milky way).

    I've been running Seti@Home for years and now Boinc. I am doing the Rosetta project at this time which is working on Covid. I had also been
    a part of Rosetta when they were looking for a Vaccine for Anthrax.

    Badass

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  • From Thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to calcmandan on Thursday, April 23, 2020 13:23:00
    calcmandan wrote to Thumper <=-

    Thumper wrote to Nightfox <=-

    Nightfox wrote to All <=-

    I'm just curious if anyone here uses their computer for distributed computing projects?

    The first I heard of was SETI@Home soon after it started in 1999, which
    I have participated in off and on over the years. After several years, they went from a stand-alone SETI@Home client to a more general
    framework for distributed computing called BOINC (Berkeley Online Infrastructure for Network Computing): https://boinc.berkeley.edu
    BOINC allows organizations to manage distributed computing work, by creating computer programs that allow peoples' computers to process
    work distributed by their srever, and BOINC organizes the data into
    work units & such and provides things like redundant checking,
    statistics on work units processed, etc.. There are projects running
    in BOINC that process data for things like medical research, doing calculations for astronomical data, etc..

    SETI@Home recently announced that they won't be sending any more work units, and they want to focus on analyzing all the data they've
    received back from SETI@Home. So I've re-enabled some of the other
    BOINC projects I joined a while ago: World Community Grid (which
    processes data for scientific research in health and medical areas), Rosetta@Home (which processes data for research in protien structure
    and protien structure prediction), and Milkyway@Home (which processes
    data to generate 3D models of stellar streams in the milky way).

    I've been running Seti@Home for years and now Boinc. I am doing the Rosetta project at this time which is working on Covid. I had also been
    a part of Rosetta when they were looking for a Vaccine for Anthrax.

    I even got a certificate at one time for that project. Might still be out there somewhere. Used to get certificates from Seti too... Hmmmm. Might have to look for those. :)


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  • From calcmandan@VERT/DIGDIST to Thumper on Friday, April 24, 2020 00:59:00
    Thumper wrote to calcmandan <=-

    I even got a certificate at one time for that project. Might still be
    out there somewhere. Used to get certificates from Seti too... Hmmmm. Might have to look for those. :)

    I recall getting a cert after my 100th packet. That was probably 2001. Back then, a pentium 2 took over 24 hours to process a packet. It would be fun to see how long these modern processors take.

    Speaking of SETI, some time ago I read that researchers determined the source of the WOW! signal. It turned out, from their findings, that it was a comet that crossed their field of view and it was the signal coming from it. I could be wrong on the specifics but I know it was a comet. Anyway, after tracking that comet, it would've been just at that very spot in the sky when the signal was captured.

    Conspiracy theorists won't believe the explaination but meh. They never will.


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to calcmandan on Saturday, April 25, 2020 08:24:00
    On 04-24-20 00:59, calcmandan wrote to Thumper <=-

    Speaking of SETI, some time ago I read that researchers determined the source of the WOW! signal. It turned out, from their findings, that it
    was a comet that crossed their field of view and it was the signal

    Interesting, first time I've heard of this. The question still remains about the origin of the signal - was it somehow generated by the comet or reflected from another source?

    coming from it. I could be wrong on the specifics but I know it was a comet. Anyway, after tracking that comet, it would've been just at that very spot in the sky when the signal was captured.

    The comet would partly explain the dynamics of the signal, though its own movement would add a Doppler component and change the timing slightly, but depending on the distance and path, that may or may not be significant. But normally, comets aren't known for their radio emitting properties, so there's still a question of where the signal came from (I'm assuming this search was a passive monitoring exercise).

    Conspiracy theorists won't believe the explaination but meh. They never will.

    True. To me, it sounds a bit incomplete, if anyone has a paper to reference, that would be interesting to read.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Vk3jed on Saturday, April 25, 2020 09:07:33
    Re: Re: Distributed computing
    By: Vk3jed to calcmandan on Sat Apr 25 2020 08:24 am

    On 04-24-20 00:59, calcmandan wrote to Thumper <=-

    Speaking of SETI, some time ago I read that researchers determined the source of the WOW! signal. It turned out, from their findings, that it was a comet that crossed their field of view and it was the signal

    Interesting, first time I've heard of this. The question still remains abou the origin of the signal - was it somehow generated by the comet or reflecte from another source?


    they still dont know the source and they cant replicate it.
    they have also been shooting radio signals in the direction of the source.

    i dont think that's a good idea.
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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to Vk3jed on Saturday, April 25, 2020 15:14:48
    Re: Re: Distributed computing
    By: Vk3jed to calcmandan on Sat Apr 25 2020 08:24:00


    Conspiracy theorists won't believe the explaination but meh. They
    never will.

    Vk3jed> True. To me, it sounds a bit incomplete, if anyone has a paper
    Vk3jed> to reference, that would be interesting to read.

    i used this search the other day... several articles and papers were found...

    https://www.google.com/search?q=wow+signal+solved


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  • From calcmandan@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Saturday, April 25, 2020 15:27:00
    Vk3jed wrote to calcmandan <=-

    On 04-24-20 00:59, calcmandan wrote to Thumper <=-

    Speaking of SETI, some time ago I read that researchers determined the source of the WOW! signal. It turned out, from their findings, that it
    was a comet that crossed their field of view and it was the signal

    Interesting, first time I've heard of this. The question still remains about the origin of the signal - was it somehow generated by the comet
    or reflected from another source?

    Here

    https://earthsky.org/space/wow-signal-explained-comets-antonio-paris

    How about reading from the source other than a vague memory from a non-astronomer?


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  • From calcmandan@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Saturday, April 25, 2020 15:42:00
    MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Re: Re: Distributed computing
    By: Vk3jed to calcmandan on Sat Apr 25 2020 08:24 am

    On 04-24-20 00:59, calcmandan wrote to Thumper <=-

    Speaking of SETI, some time ago I read that researchers determined the source of the WOW! signal. It turned out, from their findings, that it was a comet that crossed their field of view and it was the signal

    Interesting, first time I've heard of this. The question still remains abou the origin of the signal - was it somehow generated by the comet or reflecte from another source?


    they still dont know the source and they cant replicate it.
    they have also been shooting radio signals in the direction of the
    source.

    Completely untrue and fabricated information

    https://earthsky.org/space/wow-signal-explained-comets-antonio-paris

    If you want I'll dig up their published paper.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to calcmandan on Saturday, April 25, 2020 23:47:54
    Re: Re: Distributed computing
    By: calcmandan to Vk3jed on Sat Apr 25 2020 03:27 pm


    https://earthsky.org/space/wow-signal-explained-comets-antonio-paris

    How about reading from the source other than a vague memory from a non-astronomer?


    astronomer here. we still arent sure if that was a comet. dont think they make that much radio noise.

    welp, back to my telescope
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to calcmandan on Saturday, April 25, 2020 23:48:52
    Re: Re: Distributed computing
    By: calcmandan to MRO on Sat Apr 25 2020 03:42 pm

    they still dont know the source and they cant replicate it.
    they have also been shooting radio signals in the direction of the source.

    Completely untrue and fabricated information

    https://earthsky.org/space/wow-signal-explained-comets-antonio-paris

    If you want I'll dig up their published paper.

    you fucking doubt me again i will kick your ass.

    i dont care about your bullshit website.
    go back under your rock.
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  • From calcmandan@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Saturday, April 25, 2020 22:58:00
    MRO wrote to calcmandan <=-

    Re: Re: Distributed computing
    By: calcmandan to MRO on Sat Apr 25 2020 03:42 pm

    they still dont know the source and they cant replicate it.
    they have also been shooting radio signals in the direction of the source.

    Completely untrue and fabricated information

    https://earthsky.org/space/wow-signal-explained-comets-antonio-paris

    If you want I'll dig up their published paper.

    you fucking doubt me again i will kick your ass.

    i dont care about your bullshit website.
    go back under your rock.

    Less than zero credibility is what you have tough boy. As far as I'm concerned, nothing you say will ever have merit.

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  • From calcmandan@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Saturday, April 25, 2020 23:14:00
    MRO wrote to calcmandan <=-

    Re: Re: Distributed computing
    By: calcmandan to Vk3jed on Sat Apr 25 2020 03:27 pm


    https://earthsky.org/space/wow-signal-explained-comets-antonio-paris

    How about reading from the source other than a vague memory from a non-astronomer?

    astronomer here. we still arent sure if that was a comet. dont think
    they make that much radio noise.

    We? Did you contribute to the study? Did you read the paper?


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to MRO on Sunday, April 26, 2020 15:33:00
    On 04-25-20 09:07, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    they still dont know the source and they cant replicate it.

    It's a long standing mystery.

    they have also been shooting radio signals in the direction of the
    source.

    i dont think that's a good idea.

    Time will tell. ;)


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Rampage on Sunday, April 26, 2020 16:06:00
    On 04-25-20 15:14, Rampage wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    i used this search the other day... several articles and papers were found...

    https://www.google.com/search?q=wow+signal+solved

    It seems this is a very plausible explanation, reading the reports.


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to calcmandan on Sunday, April 26, 2020 16:14:00
    On 04-25-20 15:27, calcmandan wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    https://earthsky.org/space/wow-signal-explained-comets-antonio-paris

    Thanks.

    How about reading from the source other than a vague memory from a non-astronomer?

    No need to be condescending about it. Seems a lot of attitude going around the nets lately. Lockdowns getting to everyone? ;P

    I've since read a few articles and an abstract on the subject, and the comet theory seems to fit, given the available information. Some of the more technical ones are the argue the case better.


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to calcmandan on Sunday, April 26, 2020 17:35:00
    On 04-25-20 15:42, calcmandan wrote to MRO <=-

    https://earthsky.org/space/wow-signal-explained-comets-antonio-paris

    If you want I'll dig up their published paper.

    I read the abstract of the published paper, the comet does explain the observed signal very well.


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to MRO on Sunday, April 26, 2020 17:38:00
    On 04-25-20 23:47, MRO wrote to calcmandan <=-

    astronomer here. we still arent sure if that was a comet. dont think
    they make that much radio noise.

    Well, the astronomers in the study have proven otherwise, they observed the comet determined to be responsible when it was at a similar distance from the sun to what it was calculated to be at the time of the WOW! signal, and found it did radiate detectable signals on 1420 MHz. They also tried observing other similar comets with the same results.

    The paper is well worth the read.


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  • From calcmandan@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Sunday, April 26, 2020 03:02:00
    Vk3jed wrote to calcmandan <=-

    On 04-25-20 15:27, calcmandan wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    https://earthsky.org/space/wow-signal-explained-comets-antonio-paris

    Thanks.

    How about reading from the source other than a vague memory from a non-astronomer?

    No need to be condescending about it. Seems a lot of attitude going around the nets lately. Lockdowns getting to everyone? ;P

    I was talking about me. Instead of bring up a subject and being vague, I opted to find the article and provide the link.

    I've since read a few articles and an abstract on the subject, and the
    comet theory seems to fit, given the available information. Some of
    the more technical ones are the argue the case better.

    I've only read the story I linked and the original paper. I agree.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to calcmandan on Sunday, April 26, 2020 12:03:11
    Re: Re: Distributed computing
    By: calcmandan to MRO on Sat Apr 25 2020 10:58 pm

    Less than zero credibility is what you have tough boy. As far as I'm concern nothing you say will ever have merit.

    quit spamming your website comet lover.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to calcmandan on Sunday, April 26, 2020 12:07:07
    Re: Re: Distributed computing
    By: calcmandan to MRO on Sat Apr 25 2020 11:14 pm

    MRO wrote to calcmandan <=-

    Re: Re: Distributed computing
    By: calcmandan to Vk3jed on Sat Apr 25 2020 03:27 pm


    https://earthsky.org/space/wow-signal-explained-comets-antonio-paris

    How about reading from the source other than a vague memory from a non-astronomer?

    astronomer here. we still arent sure if that was a comet. dont think they make that much radio noise.

    We? Did you contribute to the study? Did you read the paper?


    yes i did contribute to the study. can't you read.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Vk3jed on Sunday, April 26, 2020 12:08:44
    Re: Re: Distributed computing
    By: Vk3jed to MRO on Sun Apr 26 2020 03:33 pm

    On 04-25-20 09:07, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    they still dont know the source and they cant replicate it.

    It's a long standing mystery.


    we have a long history of not knowing shit. and pretending to know
    some things. just the other week they thought they found a new planet and had all kinds of discriptions of how it might be and then they found out it's cosmic dust.

    they have also been shooting radio signals in the direction of the source.

    i dont think that's a good idea.

    Time will tell. ;)

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Vk3jed on Sunday, April 26, 2020 12:11:15
    Re: Re: Distributed computing
    By: Vk3jed to calcmandan on Sun Apr 26 2020 05:35 pm

    On 04-25-20 15:42, calcmandan wrote to MRO <=-

    https://earthsky.org/space/wow-signal-explained-comets-antonio-paris

    If you want I'll dig up their published paper.

    I read the abstract of the published paper, the comet does explain the obser signal very well.


    then 10 years from now they will say it's something different.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Vk3jed on Sunday, April 26, 2020 12:12:07
    Re: Re: Distributed computing
    By: Vk3jed to MRO on Sun Apr 26 2020 05:38 pm

    On 04-25-20 23:47, MRO wrote to calcmandan <=-

    astronomer here. we still arent sure if that was a comet. dont think they make that much radio noise.

    Well, the astronomers in the study have proven otherwise, they observed the comet determined to be responsible when it was at a similar distance from th sun to what it was calculated to be at the time of the WOW! signal, and foun it did radiate detectable signals on 1420 MHz. They also tried observing ot similar comets with the same results.

    The paper is well worth the read.


    i dont think they proved it; maybe they have a nice hypothesis.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Sunday, April 26, 2020 09:19:00
    Re: Re: Distributed computing
    By: MRO to Vk3jed on Sat Apr 25 2020 09:07 am



    they still dont know the source and they cant replicate it.
    they have also been shooting radio signals in the direction of the source.

    i dont think that's a good idea.

    This made me think of the lead in of a story I read about, but don't know it's
    name. In the story SETI finally receives a signal can be only be generated
    by something intelligent. At first, it's prime numbers, then it gets real confusing after that because it appear natural noises affected the modulation of an already progressively more complex signal being sent.

    Years pass, and after the noise is stripped away like factoring crosswinds on
    a trajectory, a non base ten numeric system is determined. More years pass, and they figure out how to decode their video and audio formats, which then provides access to a a data layer involving a simple pictograms depicting
    star systems, distances between systems, then a primer on what appears ro be their written language with comparative images.

    After another 30 years, the final barriers on learning their vocabulary and syntax are broken, then we learn the greeting message is actually a warning
    of impending doom. We learn they also listened to the skies to see if anyone was out there, which in turn was how they learned about us. They also
    made contact with a species that reached a level to allow out of systems travel, which sent them an ultimatum to surrender to an invasion fleet on
    it's way. As they are preparing, they called to warn us, and to allow us to prepare or possibly develop a defensice strategy, even though they themselves do not know what technologies this enemy posesses.

    After crunching the numbers about how far away the original signal travelled, and relative rate they predicted the others would reach their world, it was determined the Earth had five years at the least before the enemy reached our solar system.

    How would you imagine the world powers would prepare or attempt a defensive
    or diplomatic strategy?

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Monday, April 27, 2020 01:07:20
    Re: Re: Distributed computing
    By: Moondog to MRO on Sun Apr 26 2020 09:19 am

    determined the Earth had five years at the least before the enemy reached ou solar system.

    How would you imagine the world powers would prepare or attempt a defensive or diplomatic strategy?


    honestly i think all the world leaders would agree to keep it quiet and do nothing.
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  • From calcmandan@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Sunday, April 26, 2020 23:05:00
    MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-


    we have a long history of not knowing shit. and pretending to know
    some things. just the other week they thought they found a new planet
    and had all kinds of discriptions of how it might be and then they
    found out it's cosmic dust.

    You're not an astronomer. You can't even lie.


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to calcmandan on Monday, April 27, 2020 16:09:00
    On 04-26-20 03:02, calcmandan wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I was talking about me. Instead of bring up a subject and being vague,
    I opted to find the article and provide the link.

    Ahh OK, no probs. :)

    I've since read a few articles and an abstract on the subject, and the comet theory seems to fit, given the available information. Some of
    the more technical ones are the argue the case better.

    I've only read the story I linked and the original paper. I agree.

    Yeah, not quite as exciting as detecting aliens, but still a rather interesting cause. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to MRO on Monday, April 27, 2020 16:10:00
    On 04-26-20 12:08, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    we have a long history of not knowing shit. and pretending to know
    some things. just the other week they thought they found a new planet
    and had all kinds of discriptions of how it might be and then they
    found out it's cosmic dust.

    Yeah, a lot of long standing mysteries eventually get solved, and the cause is usually something natural, but rather unusual/unexpected. :)

    independence day / thanos shit is gonna get us

    I'd better practice my Morse then. ;)


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to MRO on Monday, April 27, 2020 16:11:00
    On 04-26-20 12:11, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I read the abstract of the published paper, the comet does explain the obser signal very well.


    then 10 years from now they will say it's something different.

    That's sometimes the nature of science - follow the best available evidence and see where it leads.


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Moondog on Monday, April 27, 2020 21:06:00
    On 04-26-20 09:19, Moondog wrote to MRO <=-

    This made me think of the lead in of a story I read about, but don't
    know it's
    name. In the story SETI finally receives a signal can be only be generated by something intelligent. At first, it's prime numbers, then
    it gets real confusing after that because it appear natural noises affected the modulation of an already progressively more complex signal being sent.

    That sounds like a really good story, would like to track it down - I'm guessing a book or short story?


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Monday, April 27, 2020 10:45:00
    Re: Re: Distributed computing
    By: MRO to Moondog on Mon Apr 27 2020 01:07 am

    Re: Re: Distributed computing
    By: Moondog to MRO on Sun Apr 26 2020 09:19 am

    determined the Earth had five years at the least before the enemy reached solar system.

    How would you imagine the world powers would prepare or attempt a defensi or diplomatic strategy?


    honestly i think all the world leaders would agree to keep it quiet and do nothing.

    That's sad to think of that happening. I figured they would at least attempt an appeal, but how do you appeal to a completely alien culture?

    I recall another short story where Earth was informed they would receive visitors in certain amount of years (forgot how many) and wanted to put their best foot forward by making our world's civilization worthy of joining a greater community. Their solution was to abolish weapons of mass destruction and perform heavy cultural conditioning to eliminate crime and suppress
    intense emotional outbursts. When the aliens arrived, they were not
    impressed. Instead, they were mad because they were interested in us because of the way we were before contact. What I got out of it was like when
    wildlife observers study a species, they don't want their presence
    influencing an animal's behavior.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Vk3jed on Monday, April 27, 2020 10:49:00
    Re: Re: Distributed computing
    By: Vk3jed to Moondog on Mon Apr 27 2020 09:06 pm

    On 04-26-20 09:19, Moondog wrote to MRO <=-

    This made me think of the lead in of a story I read about, but don't know it's
    name. In the story SETI finally receives a signal can be only be generated by something intelligent. At first, it's prime numbers, then it gets real confusing after that because it appear natural noises affected the modulation of an already progressively more complex signal being sent.

    That sounds like a really good story, would like to track it down - I'm guessing a book or short story?


    ... The Professor discovered his earthquake theory was on shaky ground!

    Not sure the story length. I recall hearing about it on a discussion forum, and the basis of the story was used to ask what people who do in that
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to calcmandan on Monday, April 27, 2020 14:16:55
    Re: Re: Distributed computing
    By: calcmandan to MRO on Sun Apr 26 2020 11:05 pm

    MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-


    we have a long history of not knowing shit. and pretending to know
    some things. just the other week they thought they found a new planet and had all kinds of discriptions of how it might be and then they found out it's cosmic dust.

    You're not an astronomer. You can't even lie.


    this just happened recently.
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  • From calcmandan@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Monday, April 27, 2020 14:12:00
    Vk3jed wrote to calcmandan <=-

    On 04-26-20 03:02, calcmandan wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I was talking about me. Instead of bring up a subject and being vague,
    I opted to find the article and provide the link.

    Ahh OK, no probs. :)

    I've since read a few articles and an abstract on the subject, and the comet theory seems to fit, given the available information. Some of
    the more technical ones are the argue the case better.

    I've only read the story I linked and the original paper. I agree.

    Yeah, not quite as exciting as detecting aliens, but still a rather interesting cause. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Moondog on Tuesday, April 28, 2020 08:34:00
    On 04-27-20 10:49, Moondog wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    This made me think of the lead in of a story I read about, but don't know it's
    name. In the story SETI finally receives a signal can be only be generated by something intelligent. At first, it's prime numbers, then it gets real confusing after that because it appear natural noises affected the modulation of an already progressively more complex signal being sent.

    That sounds like a really good story, would like to track it down - I'm guessing a book or short story?


    ... The Professor discovered his earthquake theory was on shaky ground!

    Not sure the story length. I recall hearing about it on a discussion forum, and the basis of the story was used to ask what people who do in that scenario.

    If you ever find it, let me know. :)


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/TWODUDES to Moondog on Wednesday, April 29, 2020 10:25:00
    Moondog wrote to MRO <=-

    That's sad to think of that happening. I figured they would at least attempt an appeal, but how do you appeal to a completely alien culture?

    I recall another short story where Earth was informed they would
    receive visitors in certain amount of years (forgot how many) and
    wanted to put their best foot forward by making our world's
    civilization worthy of joining a greater community. Their solution was
    to abolish weapons of mass destruction and perform heavy cultural conditioning to eliminate crime and suppress intense emotional
    outbursts. When the aliens arrived, they were not impressed. Instead, they were mad because they were interested in us because of the way we were before contact. What I got out of it was like when wildlife observers study a species, they don't want their presence influencing
    an animal's behavior.

    I recall this as a Twilght zone episode.

    They were not impressed because we were bred by them to be warlike and by making the planet peaceful, we failed and would be extinguished.


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  • From Kurisu@VERT/FINALZON to Nightfox on Tuesday, May 19, 2020 06:28:37
    Re: Distributed computing
    By: Nightfox to All on Tue Apr 21 2020 11:55 am

    I'm just curious if anyone here uses their computer for distributed computin projects?
    I do. Since the COVID-19 crisis started I've joined the Folding@Home team of a YouTuber I follow (Itsmynaturalcolour) and will try to regularly have my systems contribute.

    I've previously contributed to SETI@Home and other BOINC projects years ago, but until recently had done nothing of the sort for quite a while.






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