this nightmare is still steaming along @ full speed.
today, 4/13/2020, prez trump is fighting back with all arms flailing and leg kicking... screaming about the awesome job his team of bandits have done thu far.
well, i'm still stuck @ home... the damn safeway doesnt even have all the fo staples; how do the sheeple even think everything is a-ok. the administratio
i think this is a race until VACCINE is flashing in lights on every MAIN ST in 'Murica.
for a 100ft; go figure. Governments around the world are protecting themselves because they do not have a handle on the situation and ignored the early warning signs. In plain speak they said everything is OK in the
for a 100ft; go figure. Governments around the world are protecting themselves because they do not have a handle on the situation and ignored the early warning signs. In plain speak they said everything is OK in the
Cyphedeous wrote to Mastermind <=-
If it makes you feel any better, it's not much better here in Canada
and the rest of the word in terms of restrictions and freedom of
moment. Just the other day I was warned by an officer to not stop in
the park and that I should keep moving along or I will get fined.
home... the damn safeway doesnt even have all the food
staples; how do the sheep
le even think everything is a-ok. the administration
is infantile in their handl
ing.
If it makes you feel any better, it's not much better here in Canada and the re
t of the word in terms of restrictions and freedom of moment. Just the other da
I was warned by an officer to not stop in the park and that I should keep movi
g along or I will get fined. There was no one around for a 100ft; go figure. Go
ernments around the world are protecting themselves because they do not have a >andle on the situation and ignored the early warning signs. In plain speak they
said everything is OK in the early days and chose not to act. They were only pr
tecting themselves and the government institutions they serve. In Canada at lea
t they were mainly interested in political correctness. The whole thing is disg
sting.
"Never let a good crisis go to waste"
Yes, these things are important at face value, but the fact that there are people in industry and government thinking "How can I use this global pandemic to my advantage" fries me - like the banking industry lobbying to relax the restrictions in the name of providing liquidity during the pandemic. Restrictions put on after they blew up the economy a little over a decade ago.
On 04-14-20 11:35, HusTler wrote to Cyphedeous <=-
For you people that say "Governments ignored early warning signs"
What should they have Governments done? Shut everything down when
nobody was sick? What is it the Governments should have done? Which Governments?
Here in Australia, bringing in quarantine at the borders earlier may have helped prevent COVID-19 taking hold, and at least allowed a domestic econo keep going. But it may have been possible to stop things in Wuhan itself, the CHinese and WHO acted faster. Who knows, because the issue of asympto transmission didn't become known until later.
On 04-15-20 00:18, ryan wrote to Vk3jed <=-
California was one of the first hit states but early and decisive
action from the state and local governments were able to flatten the
curve much more effectively than other states in the US.
Havok wrote to Mastermind <=-
A vaccine for this is nothing more then a weaponized coronavirus shot.
Nothing more, nothing less.
On 04-15-20 00:18, ryan wrote to Vk3jed <=-
California was one of the first hit states but early and decisive action from the state and local governments were able to flatten the curve much more effectively than other states in the US.
Australia has been very effective at flattening the curve as well. New case are now a handful per day, instead of hundreds.
are, the harder the virus will hit. So I'd say that we have a good reason t stop eating the junk food and hit the gym more often.
Right. The only way to stomp this is herd immunity - which won't happen too quick with everyone under house arrest.
From the information that we have today, it seems that the less healthy you are, the harder the virus will hit. So I'd say that we have a good reason to stop eating the junk food and hit the gym more often.
On 04-15-20 17:18, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Australia has been very effective at flattening the curve as well. New case are now a handful per day, instead of hundreds.
yes, but isnt that expected to happen anyways over time? eventually
this virus would play itself out just like other ones did.
On 04-15-20 17:37, Havok wrote to Dr. What <=-
From the information that we have today, it seems that the less healthy you are, the harder the virus will hit. So I'd say that we have a good reason to stop eating the junk food and hit the gym more often.
Another reason I go to the gym (When I can due to lock down) And
filter
my water to get all the floristic acid out and I take Iodine. Funny
here
we give floristic acid in the water in China they give Iodine. Many studies
have come out on the benifits of Iodine.
But anyway sounds like your on the right track, thanks for the reply!
Another reason I go to the gym (When I can due to lock down) And filter
my water to get all the floristic acid out and I take Iodine. Funny here
we give floristic acid in the water in China they give Iodine. Many studies
have come out on the benifits of Iodine.
But anyway sounds like your on the right track, thanks for the reply!
On 04-15-20 17:18, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Australia has been very effective at flattening the curve as well. New c are now a handful per day, instead of hundreds.
yes, but isnt that expected to happen anyways over time? eventually this virus would play itself out just like other ones did.
We're doing it with a LOT less infections overall. Elimination (providing border controls are up to it) is a real possibility here.
really, most people are disgusting. they dont cover their mouths when they cough and they leave germs all over.
For you people that say "Governments ignored early warning signs"
What should they have Governments done? Shut everything down when
nobody was sick? What is it the Governments should have done? Which
Here in Australia, bringing in quarantine at the borders earlier may have helped prevent COVID-19 taking hold, and at least allowed a domestic
economy to keep going. But it may have been possible to stop things in
Wuhan itself, had the CHinese and WHO acted faster. Who knows, because the issue of asymptomatic transmission didn't become known until later.
On 04-15-20 22:06, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
i think border control and social distancing is good. i'm not a fan of people hiding in their homes and the economy crashing. that's whats happening in the usa.
On 04-15-20 23:13, HusTler wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Trump is pausing money to the WHO. Claimes they lied about
Covid-19
On 04-15-20 21:04, Nightfox wrote to MRO <=-
I'm surprised that I sometimes see grown adults in public restrooms
leave without washing their hands.
Exercise and nutrition can help with a lot of things. I'm not letting this virus stop me. Sure, I can't do all I want to at this time, but I can still get a lot of good training done within the constraints of social distancing. I do have to be a bit more independent, however. :)
if you want to boost your body i would suggest getting niacin and zinc. dont take too much niacin. it will lite you the fuck up. you will be super itchy and your throat might close up a little. the effect goes away in 30 mins. and dont drink alcohol with it.
Trump is pausing money to the WHO. Claimes they lied about Covid-19
Trump is pausing money to the WHO. Claimes they lied about
Covid-19
Now's not the time to play those political games. :/
Re: Re: COViD-19 days . . .
By: MRO to Vk3jed on Wed Apr 15 2020 10:06 pm
really, most people are disgusting. they dont cover their mouths when t cough and they leave germs all over.
I'm surprised that I sometimes see grown adults in public restrooms leave without washing their hands.
On 04-15-20 22:06, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
i think border control and social distancing is good. i'm not a fan of people hiding in their homes and the economy crashing. that's whats happening in the usa.
A lot of jobs have still been impacted here, but the government is subsidisi businesses to keep their staff on, while they're significantly impacted by t pandemic. But the government is looking ahead, so they can plan the transit from "stage 3 restrictions" to a nearer normal economy. We have at least another 4 weeks of the current social distancing restrictions, and the situation is being constantly reviewed.
On 04-15-20 23:13, HusTler wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Trump is pausing money to the WHO. Claimes they lied about Covid-19
Now's not the time to play those political games. :/
Re: Re: COViD-19 days . . .
By: MRO to Havok on Wed Apr 15 2020 09:58 pm
if you want to boost your body i would suggest getting niacin and zinc. dont take too much niacin. it will lite you the fuck up. you will be su itchy and your throat might close up a little. the effect goes away in mins. and dont drink alcohol with it.
I forgot why I took it at the time, but you are right I took niacin for a
little bit and WOW lets start a fire. As for zinc right now 100mg a day
50 in the am 50 at dinner.
another thing is the way people behave at public salad bars at grocery stores. i've seen people dig into food with their bare hands or use the serving spoon to taste. these are regular looking people, not hobos.
another thing is the way people behave at public salad bars at grocery stores. i've seen people dig into food with their bare hands or use the serving spoon to taste. these are regular looking people, not hobos.
On 04-16-20 06:16, Havok wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Exercise and nutrition can help with a lot of things. I'm not letting this virus stop me. Sure, I can't do all I want to at this time, but I can still get a lot of good training done within the constraints of social distancing. I do have to be a bit more independent, however. :)
Sounds like you on the right track, I hope we have this thing licked
soon (no pun intended) Unlike you though I'm in the range they worry
about. But all I can do is eat right, take my vitamins and go to the
gym. That's about all I can do.
On 04-16-20 17:27, Dumas Walker wrote to VK3JED <=-
I disagree. We can use that money to help the USA out. WHO is
supposed to be leading the World when it comes to health, but they
crapped the bed big time on this one. Let a country who thinks they didn't take up the slack.
And I don't see it as a political game (although Trump might). I
learned about the WHO's screw up on this by watching news programs from Australia, Taiwan, and India, not from Trump.
On 04-16-20 17:29, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
in my country they were trying to help out 'small' businesses but the money ran out.
i'm not surprised, that's a lot of people to help.
i hope the social distancing stays. we certainly need to open up and
get these businesses going. i also think the entire world needs to
keep a closer eye on china.
On 04-16-20 17:30, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
yeah, but they actually might have lied. also this virus might have started in a lab of some sort. i'm not saying it's an engineered
weapon, it's possible it was modified for testing and it got out.
another thing is the way people behave at public salad bars at grocery
stores. i've seen people dig into food with their bare hands or use
the serving spoon to taste. these are regular looking people, not
hobos.
<chuckles at "hobos"> They're called "campers" or "people experiencing homelessness" nowadays. Get with the times. :-)
you need to crank down the amount of niacin. it does work like viagra too
Eating right is just a matter of doing what I've always been doing. :)
5 years of being coached as a Masters athlete is serving me well now. I've been planning a lot of my sessions to keep around where I'd be without COVID-19 for this time of year. :)
On 04-17-20 06:51, Havok wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Agreed I can't tell you the last time I ate fast food, like I want to
eat
french fries with something they make silly putty with.
5 years of being coached as a Masters athlete is serving me well now. I've been planning a lot of my sessions to keep around where I'd be without COVID-19 for this time of year. :)
This all sucks to me, being this crap being forced on us. The thought
of
having to maybe wear a mask once a year for the rest of my life
stinks.
MRO wrote to Dr. What <=-
are, the harder the virus will hit. So I'd say that we have a good reason t stop eating the junk food and hit the gym more often.
har har. i'm big and fat and i dont exercise and i never get sick.
Vk3jed wrote to HusTler <=-
Trump is pausing money to the WHO. Claimes they lied about
Covid-19
Now's not the time to play those political games. :/
Dumas Walker wrote to HUSTLER <=-
I don't know if they lied or not, but they were way off base with some
of the things they said early on. They also ignored warnings from
Taiwan because, as a part of the UN, they do not recognize Taiwan's existence.
As they are supposed to be a World leader when it comes to health, the fact that WHO crapped the bed lead to many countries doing the same.
Dumas Walker wrote to VK3JED <=-
Trump is pausing money to the WHO. Claimes they lied about
Covid-19
Now's not the time to play those political games. :/
I disagree. We can use that money to help the USA out.
Vk3jed wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
On 04-16-20 17:27, Dumas Walker wrote to VK3JED <=-
I disagree. We can use that money to help the USA out. WHO is
supposed to be leading the World when it comes to health, but they
crapped the bed big time on this one. Let a country who thinks they didn't take up the slack.
Nightfox wrote to Digital Man <=-
In one of my earlier (2nd-year, I think) software engineering classes
in college, we had a group assigment for the whole class to create a virtual railroad control system in software. Toward the end of the
term, when the instructor was going over the project we created, one of the students joked that "there should be a Hobo class" in the code, and the teacher said that was "inappropriate". :P
If I felt like that money would go into a program to assist taxpayers directly, I'd be all for it. As it is, we're paying $18,000 per taxpayer for a corporate bailout and getting a $1200 one-time payment.
I'm not sure that's an absolute - evidence is coming out that the US downplayed their response to the virus despite internal warnings for some time before taking it seriously. If we received warnings and raised alarms internally and then responded poorly to them, WHO isn't to blame.
Masks aren't mentioned here, except for those who are already infected. Hopefully the social distancing can be eased within a month or two. Only time will tell.
Re: Re: COViD-19 days . . .
By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Apr 16 2020 05:26 pm
another thing is the way people behave at public salad bars at grocery stores. i've seen people dig into food with their bare hands or use the serving spoon to taste. these are regular looking people, not hobos.
<chuckles at "hobos"> They're called "campers" or "people experiencing homelessness" nowadays. Get with the times. :-)
Re: Re: COViD-19 days . . .
By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Apr 16 2020 05:26 pm
another thing is the way people behave at public salad bars at grocery stores. i've seen people dig into food with their bare hands or use the serving spoon to taste. these are regular looking people, not hobos.
My wife and I once stopped at a buffet restaurant for dinner. My wife is ve allergic to fish, and we saw someone take a pair of tongs from some fish and pick up another food item with it. We decided to leave to avoid cross-contamination issues.
On 04-16-20 17:30, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
yeah, but they actually might have lied. also this virus might have started in a lab of some sort. i'm not saying it's an engineered weapon, it's possible it was modified for testing and it got out.
And what do you base that on?
Re: Re: COViD-19 days . . .
By: MRO to Havok on Thu Apr 16 2020 05:32 pm
you need to crank down the amount of niacin. it does work like viagra t
I did and don't need the viagra yet!
You are right though talk about heat wave!
Masks aren't mentioned here, except for those who are already infected. Hopefully the social distancing can be eased within a month or two. Only ti will tell.
We learned from the doctor that diabetes lowers your immune system and that' what really did my dad in. When the diabetes hit, his system found it harde to fight off things like colds and flus and, over time, simply over taxed hi system, causing the heart attack.
On 04-17-20 07:07, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
This feels like it's all about redirecting blame elsewhere. A vague promise to investigate the response after the fact wouldn't do. Now,
we're spending less attention looking into the US response and debating whether or not the WHO acted appropriately and whether or not cutting funding during a pandemic is the right choice.
On 04-17-20 10:09, Havok wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Well more then that I am hoping that some are wrong and this thing
isn't
going to be around year after year!
On 04-17-20 08:00, Dr. What wrote to MRO <=-
That's the way I used to be. I weighed 360 lbs, ate poorly and never exercised.And, like you, never got sick.
On 04-17-20 06:56, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
I'm not sure that's an absolute - evidence is coming out that the US downplayed their response to the virus despite internal warnings for
some time before taking it seriously. If we received warnings and
raised alarms internally and then responded poorly to them, WHO isn't
to blame.
I wonder if hot weather helped make a difference.California was one of the first hit states but early and decisive action from the state and local governments were able to flatten the curve much more effectively than other states in the US.
Australia has been very effective at flattening the curve as well. New cases
are now a handful per day, instead of hundreds.
On 04-17-20 21:08, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
@VIA: VERT/BBSESINF
Re: Re: COViD-19 days . . .
By: Vk3jed to MRO on Fri Apr 17 2020 11:52 am
On 04-16-20 17:30, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
yeah, but they actually might have lied. also this virus might have started in a lab of some sort. i'm not saying it's an engineered weapon, it's possible it was modified for testing and it got out.
And what do you base that on?
there's a lot of reports about this out lately.
On 04-17-20 21:26, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
@VIA: VERT/BBSESINF
Re: Re: COViD-19 days . . .
By: Vk3jed to Havok on Fri Apr 17 2020 09:58 pm
Masks aren't mentioned here, except for those who are already infected. Hopefully the social distancing can be eased within a month or two. Only ti will tell.
i know for a fact i have been exposed twice to corona virus. they were
two separate co workers at my pt job. i believe i may have been
exposed in january of this year when my coworker at job1 had it and i
hung out with him all the time.
i guess i just have a good immune system.
i know i got sick a lot when i was a kid. like a LOT. i'm 43 now and i maybe had like 5 colds since i was 18 and i havent got the flu since
then. ---
I usually get a seasonal cold in August/September, but rarely any other time of the year. And I am usually exposed to a lot of people. In recent years, I was working at a school, which is a breeding ground for colds.
On 04-15-20 07:23, MATTHEW MUNSON wrote to VK3JED <=-
are now a handful per day, instead of hundreds.
I wonder if hot weather helped make a difference.
On 04-18-20 01:27, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I'd often get a cold in October. Interesting, because your seasons are opposite of ours in the US.. That's been a little different with me in the last few years though, as one year I didn't get a cold at all, and just this year, I had a cold in January and again in March (I doubt it
was COVID-19).
well i think a lot of people that take viagra dont need it. men are curious and like to experiment.
<chuckles at "hobos"> They're called "campers" or "people experiencing homelessness" nowadays. Get with the times. :-)
On 04-16-20 17:30, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
yeah, but they actually might have lied. also this virus might have started in a lab of some sort. i'm not saying it's an engineered weapon, it's possible it was modified for testing and it got out.
And what do you base that on?
there's a lot of reports about this out lately.
i know i got sick a lot when i was a kid. like a LOT. i'm 43 now and i maybe had like 5 colds since i was 18 and i havent got the flu since then.
MRO wrote to Dr. What <=-
We learned from the doctor that diabetes lowers your immune system and that' what really did my dad in. When the diabetes hit, his system found it harde to fight off things like colds and flus and, over time, simply over taxed hi system, causing the heart attack.
oh yeah, some people have it real bad. a few guys HERE have it
real bad. if it ever gets to the point where i have a wound that
wont heal or i'm going to lose a foot or leg i'm gonna drop all
my fat.
it's not worth it.
yeah, but they actually might have lied. also this virus might
have started in a lab of some sort. i'm not saying it's an
engineered weapon, it's possible it was modified for testing and
it got out.
And what do you base that on?
there's a lot of reports about this out lately.
He is right. Some are from dubious sources, while others I am not quite so sure about. I have seen it from at least two different sources in the past couple of days. One is Sky News Australia, IIRC. Cannot remember the other.
How do you think their is ever going to be a vaccine?
With research being done in Canada thier is so far 49 strains of the virus.
We can't even hit on all 8 every year with strain (A) or (B) for a flu shot vaccine. It's always 50/50.
A vaccine for this is nothing more then a weaponized coronavirus shot. Nothing more, nothing less.
If it makes you feel any better, it's not much better here in Canada and the rest of the word in terms of restrictions and freedom of moment. Just the other day I was warned by an officer to not stop in the park and that I should keep moving along or I will get fined. There was no one around for a 100ft; go figure. Governments around the world are protecting themselves because they do not have a handle on the situation and ignored the early warning signs. In plain speak they said everything is OK in the early days and chose not to act. They were only protecting themselves and the government institutions they serve. In Canada at least they were mainly interested in political correctness. The whole thing is disgusting.
Thing is most countries (I said most) are not handling it much better. Considering that the WHO was telling us things like "it is not human to human communicable" when countries like Taiwan were telling it otherwise, and "travel bans are not necessary," while the country of origin (China) was also busy trying to cover it all up, I honestly don't see why people think they had so much advance warning that they could have done much better.
Being REAL honest, considering what the WHO was telling us, and considering how closely tied the previous administration was to the WHO and the UN, I REALLY DO NOT think that the previous administration would have done a better job. Nor do I think a Hillary Clinton administration would have.
The one thing that Obama might have done better is making us feel better about it. And a lot of my school friends on the old FB would be praising his efforts while the same number of people get sick. Otherwise, I don't see it being much different.
On 04-18-20 10:41, Dumas Walker wrote to VK3JED <=-
@VIA: VERT/CAPCITY2
On 04-16-20 17:30, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
yeah, but they actually might have lied. also this virus might have started in a lab of some sort. i'm not saying it's an engineered weapon, it's possible it was modified for testing and it got out.
And what do you base that on?
there's a lot of reports about this out lately.
He is right. Some are from dubious sources, while others I am not
quite so sure about. I have seen it from at least two different
sources in the past couple of days. One is Sky News Australia, IIRC. Cannot remember the other.
I'd be curious to see actual links to the reports about this. Some of the stuf
people put out there seem to just be opinions or peoples' own theories or gues
es as to what's going on.
Vk3jed wrote to Dr. What <=-
On 04-17-20 08:00, Dr. What wrote to MRO <=-
But the biggest things are:
1. I feel great and the doctor is pretty happy with my results from my annual checkup each year. And I have energy to take on a lot of things
in life.
2. Better mood - despite being statistically at risk of poor mental health (in a double minority here), my overall mental health is quite good. I put that down to my active lifestyle.
3. And for me it's kind of cool knowing I can do something that relatively few 50 somethings can do, and even a lot of younger people can't do either (I know they've tried to beat me in a sprint LOL).
Sure, it's hard work, but it's worth it in my book. :)
im with you... we're going to know covid-19 for a long time... i hope that theres a supply of need things in order to live with what THIS virus can do. this months WIRED has a fairly dim out look about pandemics, decent read this month...
Re: Re: COViD-19 days . . .
By: Digital Man to MRO on Thu Apr 16 2020 06:01 pm
Re: Re: COViD-19 days . . .
By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Apr 16 2020 05:26 pm
another thing is the way people behave at public salad bars at grocery stores. i've seen people dig into food with their bare hands or use th serving spoon to taste. these are regular looking people, not hobos.
<chuckles at "hobos"> They're called "campers" or "people experiencing homelessness" nowadays. Get with the times. :-)
actually hobos were homeless tramps with style back in the day.
my grandma used to tell me how they would mark the various houses with chalk
I'm with you on this subject!
Sign of the times, you don't need a boots on the ground or nukes. Just throw a more deadly virus at a nation.
I'm with you on this subject!
Sign of the times, you don't need a boots on the ground or nukes. Just throw a more deadly virus at a nation.
Re: COViD-19 days . . .
By: Havok to Mastermind on Sun Apr 19 2020 07:13 am
I'm with you on this subject!
Sign of the times, you don't need a boots on the ground or nukes. Just throw a more deadly virus at a nation.
What nation do you think would have been meant as the target? COVID-19 has affected the whole world. If it was meant for just one country, it seems li it has gotten a bit out of hand..
On 04-19-20 11:13, Dr. What wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Sure, it's hard work, but it's worth it in my book. :)
My change followed a similar track.
In my case, I took up biking since there is a really nice bike trail
close by. The number of miles I could do kept going up until I ran out
of paved trail to use. (I have a big recumbent and it doesn't work
well on dirt/gravel.)
Shortly after that, I picked up ballroom dance. After a number of
years of that, I picked up a wife. Now it's mainly walking and gym.
But I've felt the same benefits you list. It's wonderful and, like you said, well worth it.
... To our sweethearts and wives. May they never meet!
Dancing is one of those things that can be underrated when it comes to "exercise", but it actually ticks a lot of the boxes - endurance, coordination, as well as being a fun activity. And for you, it seems to have had a few positive side effects. :D
i sure tell ya; that would be the worst thing that could ever happen... to use viruses like covid-19 or worse on people. i do certainly hope the conspirast community is wrong on THIS one... dont f**k with nature.
What nation do you think would have been meant as the target? COVID-19 has affected the whole world. If it was meant for just one country, it seems like it has gotten a bit out of hand..
On 04-19-20 21:45, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Dancing is one of those things that can be underrated when it comes to "exercise", but it actually ticks a lot of the boxes - endurance, coordination, as well as being a fun activity. And for you, it seems to have had a few positive side effects. :D
Yeah, I took a few ballroom dance classes years ago, and I was a little surprised at how I started to feel like I was working up a sweat while dancing. I thought I might be a little bit out of shape.. :P
Havok wrote to Mastermind <=-
I'm with you on this subject!
Sign of the times, you don't need a boots on the ground or nukes. Just throw a more deadly virus at a nation.
What nation do you think would have been meant as the target? COVID-19 has aff
cted the whole world. If it was meant for just one country, it seems like it h
s gotten a bit out of hand..
it's doing a good job hitting black people.
What nation do you think would have been meant as the target? COVID-19 has affected the whole world. If it was meant for just one country, it seems like it has gotten a bit out of hand..
Nightfox
Re: COViD-19 days . . .
it's doing a good job hitting black people.
Re: COViD-19 days . . .
By: Mastermind to Havok on Sun Apr 19 2020 05:20 pm
i sure tell ya; that would be the worst thing that could ever
happen... to use viruses like covid-19 or worse on people. i do
certainly hope the conspirast community is wrong on THIS one... dont
f**k with nature.
I hope your right.
But you know power those that have it never want to let go of it!
I think this is just the start of even more things to happen.
Sad but true, a lot of dirty people in this nation alone.
I don't see any of the major powers hiding behind a virus with collateral damage as a weapon. Sleeper agents setting coordinated wildfires simultaneously across California, Oregon and Washington would take less than a hundred people and as many disposable lighters in the summertime, and would kneecap the country well - without the collateral damage caused by a pandemic.
Re: COViD-19 days . . .
it's doing a good job hitting black people.
Vk3jed wrote to Dr. What <=-
But I've felt the same benefits you list. It's wonderful and, like you said, well worth it.
Yep, even us geeks need to be active. :)
MRO wrote to Nightfox <=-
it's doing a good job hitting black people.
Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Yeah, I took a few ballroom dance classes years ago, and I was a little surprised at how I started to feel like I was working up a sweat while dancing. I thought I might be a little bit out of shape.. :P
dude i hear you, and yea... theres terrible people in the states, and afar... i mean.. theres a lot of power in this world, in all forms and fashions. just like the NSA, i cant imagine that everyone who's keeping up with the jones' would attempt to be equal to or beyond their neighbors.
Havok wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I could be wrong but hasn't even started yet!
Rampage wrote to Mastermind <=-
there was something else, years back, that appeared at some expo or con and spread from there... swine flu, maybe? but everything i see on that says it was in 2009 and AKA H1N1 but ISTR something in the '90s...
maybe it was SARS in 2003? i really don't remember...
and yet, we still have everyone using all these antibacterial soaps and trying to kill the ""bugs"" rather than to build immunities to them...
Rampage wrote to Mastermind <=-
and yet, we still have everyone using all these antibacterial
soaps and trying to kill the ""bugs"" rather than to build
immunities to them... i mean, damn... kids don't get half the
chance to build immunities like we did when i was a kid... so
many people these days are such ""clean freaks"" that they never
give themselves or their children a chance to build immunities...
before we know it, everyone will be living in bubbles breathing
purified air and not even able to touch each other for fear of
catching something...
Agreed! When I was a kid a significant portion of my diet was
dirt and bugs. I was outside pretty much from sunrise to sunset
playing, riding bikes, etc. Only came back to the house for lunch
and supper, as indicated by my Mom or Dad whistling/calling us.
Each kid in the neighborhood could identify whose parents it was
doing the whistling... Hehe. We never got sick. Oh, and we even
(gasp) drank water out of the garden hose.
there was something else, years back, that appeared at some expo or
con and spread from there... swine flu, maybe? but everything i see
on that says it was in 2009 and AKA H1N1 but ISTR something in the
'90s... maybe it was SARS in 2003? i really don't remember...
Legionnaire's disease?
Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-
Agreed! When I was a kid a significant portion of my diet was
dirt and bugs. I was outside pretty much from sunrise to sunset
playing, riding bikes, etc. Only came back to the house for lunch
and supper, as indicated by my Mom or Dad whistling/calling us.
Each kid in the neighborhood could identify whose parents it was
doing the whistling... Hehe. We never got sick. Oh, and we even
(gasp) drank water out of the garden hose.
These days it seems like you have to be really careful about
letting kids play outside for too long, which is sad.. Not just
for catching a virus, but it seems there's also a lot of fear
about weird people / stranger danger.
Re: COViD-19 days . . .
By: MRO to Nightfox on Sun Apr 19 2020 09:56 pm
Re: COViD-19 days . . .
it's doing a good job hitting black people.
Mastermind> man, i'll bite... you're correct, and i hadn't given much
Mastermind> thought to that aspect.. COViD-19 IS statistically unfair to
Mastermind> those of color.
this is mainly due to societal problems, though... the poor are poor in numerous ways and things like SARS (2003), MERS (2012), and this COVID-19 br
Then I lost the weight. I noticed in the years following that many at the convention were also losing their weight. The crowd was still as geeky as ever, but the number of fit geeks was growing.
MRO wrote to Nightfox <=-
it's doing a good job hitting black people.
Only because, as a group, they have led unhealthy lives (i.e. eating poorly, bad habits (like smoking) and live in places with poor air quality).
On 04-21-20 09:41, Dr. What wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Yep, even us geeks need to be active. :)
One interesting thing that just came to mind.
A while ago, I used to go to local computer/anime/gaming convention.
Then I lost the weight. I noticed in the years following that many at
the convention were also losing their weight. The crowd was still as geeky as ever, but the number of fit geeks was growing.
On 04-21-20 11:28, Gamgee wrote to Rampage <=-
Agreed! When I was a kid a significant portion of my diet was
dirt and bugs. I was outside pretty much from sunrise to sunset
playing, riding bikes, etc. Only came back to the house for lunch
and supper, as indicated by my Mom or Dad whistling/calling us.
Each kid in the neighborhood could identify whose parents it was
doing the whistling... Hehe. We never got sick. Oh, and we even
(gasp) drank water out of the garden hose.
before we know it, everyone will be living in bubbles breathing
purified air and not even able to touch each other for fear of
catching something...
There may be some truth to that, sadly.
before we know it, everyone will be living in bubbles breathing purified air and not even able to touch each other for fear of catching something...
)\/(ark
It will be interesting to see the results when more large population antibody studies are done. My belief is that, when the results are in, they will show that a shutdown of the economy was unnecessary and we only needed to do standard flu prevention.
... A big enough hammer can usually fix anything.
Re: COViD-19 days . . .
By: Mastermind to Havok on Mon Apr 20 2020 05:29 pm
dude i hear you, and yea... theres terrible people in the states,
and afar... i mean.. theres a lot of power in this world, in all
forms and fashions. just like the NSA, i cant imagine that everyone
who's keeping up with the jones' would attempt to be equal to or
beyond their neighbors.
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Re: Re: COViD-19 days . . .
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Rampage on Tue Apr 21 2020 08:35:00
there was something else, years back, that appeared at some expo or
con and spread from there... swine flu, maybe? but everything i see
on that says it was in 2009 and AKA H1N1 but ISTR something in the '90s... maybe it was SARS in 2003? i really don't remember...
Legionnaire's disease?
good guess but i think too far back... that was '76 and yes, it was from an
the one i'm thinking of seems to have come from something like a COMDEX or s
interesting item, though... even at today's cons and expos, folks talk about f the conventions, though... twitchcon, gamercon, etc...
)\/(ark
Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-
Agreed! When I was a kid a significant portion of my diet was
dirt and bugs. I was outside pretty much from sunrise to sunset playing, riding bikes, etc. Only came back to the house for lunch
and supper, as indicated by my Mom or Dad whistling/calling us.
Each kid in the neighborhood could identify whose parents it was
doing the whistling... Hehe. We never got sick. Oh, and we even
(gasp) drank water out of the garden hose.
These days it seems like you have to be really careful about
letting kids play outside for too long, which is sad.. Not just
for catching a virus, but it seems there's also a lot of fear
about weird people / stranger danger.
Very true. That kind of fear/danger wasn't around when/where I
grew up, thank goodness. Very thankful for what we had.
... Chance makes our parents, but choice makes our friends.
all americans have unhealhty lives and bad habits.
MRO wrote to Dr. What <=-
it's easy to lose weight. you can drop all your fat in a few months if
you work hard.
the hard part is keeping it off for longer than a year.
MRO wrote to Dr. What <=-
all americans have unhealhty lives and bad habits.
Vk3jed wrote to Dr. What <=-
Interesting. I haven't seen that to the same extent here yet, but then again, I do hang out with people who are, on average, much fitter than
the average. There's still a long way to go. :)
Speaking of which, my coach dropped by and handed me some record certificates, as I was a part of 3 record breaking relay teams last
summer - over 50s men 4x100m, 4x200m and 4x400m. I'll have to wear my Flash costume to the next comic con here (whenever that is). ;)
MRO wrote to Dr. What <=-
all americans have unhealhty lives and bad habits.
I have to disagree with the "all". I will agree with "many" and, perhaps, "most", but certainly not "all".
I know of many people like me who were heavy and lost the weight. We are to happy with our lives now to go back. I eat healthier today than I've ever eaten in my life and I actually like it. The unhealthy food actually disagr with me now.
On 04-23-20 09:37, Dr. What wrote to Vk3jed <=-
@VIA: VERT/TWODUDES
Vk3jed wrote to Dr. What <=-
Interesting. I haven't seen that to the same extent here yet, but then again, I do hang out with people who are, on average, much fitter than
the average. There's still a long way to go. :)
Oh, yes. There's plenty of room for improvement. But, still, I keep seeing improvement, so we are moving in the right direction.
My dance instructor wasn't the most observant lady. More than once she walked right past me while trying to find me at the studio. I used to joke that she missed me because I was turned sideways her and she
couldn't see me because I was so thin. 8)
On 04-23-20 09:32, Dr. What wrote to MRO <=-
As we get older, it becomes harder to lose the weight. Most of weight loss is diet and as we get older, our metabolisms slow down, so we need even fewer calories just to live.
Which gets back to your point of keeping it off. Weight loss also
means a permanent change of diet. Too many people go right back to
eating poorly. No surprise, their weight comes back - because they did the same things that put the weight on in the first place.
I had a co-worker who needed knee surgery an the doctor refused to do
it until he lost the weight. So he did Medical Weight Loss and lost a great deal of weight. He had the surgery and was happy. But he went right back to the several sodas per day and high calorie/low nutrition foods. In a couple of years, he was right back to where he started.
On 04-23-20 09:34, Dr. What wrote to MRO <=-
I know of many people like me who were heavy and lost the weight. We
are too happy with our lives now to go back. I eat healthier today
than I've ever eaten in my life and I actually like it. The unhealthy food actually disagrees with me now.
if you disagre with me you are probably wrong.
if you disagre with me you are probably wrong.
Haha. Sociopathic tendencies strike again!
if you disagre with me you are probably wrong.
Haha. Sociopathic tendencies strike again!
Vk3jed wrote to Dr. What <=-
That's good to hear. I'm certainly in favour of encouraging geeks to become fit. I can lead by example too. And for those who say they're "too clumsy", I have significant coordination issues myself. If it's
"too hard", Rome wasn't built in a day, I'm a product of many _years_
of development.
MRO wrote to ryan <=-
calm down biden voter. i was just joking.
learn to have a sense of humor.
MRO wrote to ryan <=-
calm down biden voter. i was just joking.
learn to have a sense of humor.
A lack of a sence of humor is one of the warning signs of Trump Derangement Syndrome. 8)
On 04-25-20 09:02, Dr. What wrote to Vk3jed <=-
"too hard", Rome wasn't built in a day, I'm a product of many _years_
of development.
That's proabably the biggest issue. Too many people want instant
weight loss and that simply doesn't work. If it took you 10 years to
put the weight on, it won't come off in a week.
I've told many people how I lost the weight and what it took, but many
are just too comfortable with their weight and unhealthy lifestyle. I
got lucky and had my wake up call early enough to correct things, but
for some people that wake up call is the sound of the life support
system.
I try to be a good roll model and lead by example, but sometimes I'm
caught eating an apple fritter. (My wife is a bad influence on me -
but she did get me eating - and enjoying - a diet more heavy in vegetables.)
Re: Re: COViD-19 days . . .
By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Apr 16 2020 05:26 pm
another thing is the way people behave at public salad bars at grocery stores. i've seen people dig into food with their bare hands or use the serving spoon to taste. these are regular looking people, not hobos.
<chuckles at "hobos"> They're called "campers" or "people experiencing homelessness" nowadays. Get with the times. :-)
digital man
Re: Re: COViD-19 days . . .
By: Digital Man to MRO on Thu Apr 16 2020 06:01 pm
Re: Re: COViD-19 days . . .
By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Apr 16 2020 05:26 pm
another thing is the way people behave at public salad bars at grocery stores. i've seen people dig into food with their bare hands or use th serving spoon to taste. these are regular looking people, not hobos.
<chuckles at "hobos"> They're called "campers" or "people experiencing homelessness" nowadays. Get with the times. :-)
digital man
If you want to be especially pedantic, hobos, unlike tramps and bums, were migrant workers. Although, some histories of the word strongly connect hobos with train hopping.
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