Aside from selling my body and dealing drugs, its rough pickings for employment.
Aside from selling my body and dealing drugs, its rough pickings for
employment.
Is this a recent development?
Re: Job Market
By: Digital Man to Matt Munson on Fri Apr 03 2020 02:30 pm
Aside from selling my body and dealing drugs, its rough pickings for
employment.
Is this a recent development?
The COVID-19 situation has affected the job market, with many places delaying hiring while people stay home. Many businesses have also had employees work from home where possible.
Aside from selling my body and dealing drugs, its rough pickings for employment.
Re: Job Market
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Fri Apr 03 2020 03:19 pm
Re: Job Market
By: Digital Man to Matt Munson on Fri Apr 03 2020 02:30 pm
Aside from selling my body and dealing drugs, its rough pickings for
employment.
Is this a recent development?
The COVID-19 situation has affected the job market, with many places delaying hiring while people stay home. Many businesses have also had employees work from home where possible.
I meant with Matt, in particular.
Aside from selling my body and dealing drugs, its rough pickings for employment.
Aside from selling my body and dealing drugs, its rough pickings for employment.
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Digital Man wrote to Matt Munson <=-
Aside from selling my body and dealing drugs, its rough pickings for employment.
Is this a recent development?
Digital Man wrote to Matt Munson <=-
Aside from selling my body and dealing drugs, its rough pickings for employment.
Is this a recent development?
Yes. Before the self-quarantine orders shutdown the economy, we had record unemployment.
Around here, some places are being forced to hire more people in order to keep up with virus-related demand. Our state, and localities within, have had to relax the rules for rehiring retirees, for example, so they can get more people answer phones and providing support at the UI offices, so they can get people with experience as cops back on the street, so they can get
I just signed up for Unemployment today, what a pain in the ASS that was.
I was acrually just furloughed from my job 3 weeks ago, My company paid me the >first 2 weeks, then I also got prophit sharing, but now got a waiting week to >get paid :( oh well doing good so far.
Re: Job Market
By: Dumas Walker to MATT MUNSON on Sat Apr 04 2020 08:53 am
Around here, some places are being forced to hire more people in order keep up with virus-related demand. Our state, and localities within, ha had to relax the rules for rehiring retirees, for example, so they can more people answer phones and providing support at the UI offices, so t can get people with experience as cops back on the street, so they can
I just signed up for Unemployment today, what a pain in the ASS that was.
I was acrually just furloughed from my job 3 weeks ago, My company paid me t first 2 weeks, then I also got prophit sharing, but now got a waiting week t get paid :( oh well doing good so far.
so you did a leave of absence and then were laid off?
if i were you i'd just go get another job instead of getting unemployment.
just start working at another job immediately. Unemployment provides some financial help until you find another job. Besides, unemployment insurance is something you pay into when you're working, so why not use it?
Re: Job Market
By: Nightfox to MRO on Tue Apr 07 2020 05:03 pm
just start working at another job immediately. Unemployment provides some financial help until you find another job. Besides, unemployment insurance is something you pay into when you're working, so why not use it?
What does unemployment pay days? I was reading you get your full pay check. Is that true?
Re: Job MarketNot sure how comfortable you are with it.. but grocery stores are hiring quickly! My son got applied and was working in 2 days.
By: MRO to Denn on Tue Apr 07 2020 06:17 pm
HusTler wrote to Nightfox <=-
just start working at another job immediately. Unemployment provides some financial help until you find another job. Besides, unemployment insurance is something you pay into when you're working, so why not use it?
What does unemployment pay days? I was reading you get your full
pay check. Is that true?
What does unemployment pay days? I was reading you get your full pay check. Is that true?
You get your full pay check if your full pay check was less than or equal to $300 a week. They increased that temporarily recently to $600 to help those suffering from the COVID-19 crisis. Or maybe that was a $600 increase (so to $900 a week, max), I'm not sure.
HusTler wrote to Nightfox <=-
just start working at another job immediately. Unemployment provides some financial help until you find another job. Besides, unemployment insurance is something you pay into when you're working, so why not use it?
What does unemployment pay days? I was reading you get your full
pay check. Is that true?
As far as I know, unemployment benefits have absolutely NOTHING to
do with what your (former) paycheck was. It's a set amount and
everybody gets the same, I think. It's not very much.
just start working at another job immediately. Unemployment provides
some financial help until you find another job. Besides, unemployment
insurance is something you pay into when you're working, so why not
use it?
What does unemployment pay days? I was reading you get your full pay check. Is that true?
Not sure how comfortable you are with it.. but grocery stores are hiring quickly! My son got applied and was working in 2 days.
You get your full pay check if your full pay check was less than or equal to $300 a week. They increased that temporarily recently to $600 to help those suffering from the COVID-19 crisis. Or maybe that was a $600 increase (so to $900 a week, max), I'm not sure.
As far as I know, unemployment benefits have absolutely NOTHING to
do with what your (former) paycheck was. It's a set amount and
everybody gets the same, I think. It's not very much.
At least here in California, the umemployment comp is capped based on how much you previously made, but then it's also capped at those stupid low numbers.
Re: Job Market
By: Digital Man to HusTler on Wed Apr 08 2020 12:10 am
You get your full pay check if your full pay check was less than or equal to $300 a week. They increased that temporarily recently to $600 to help those suffering from the COVID-19 crisis. Or maybe that was a $600 increase (so to $900 a week, max), I'm not sure.
I think it varies by state. In Oregon, the maximum seems to be $544 a week right now.
$300 a week? That's OK if you live in a tent. I had to go on unemployment in
the 70's. It was enough to put gas in the car. Of course the "gas shortage" was
a big factor back then. If my memory served me correctly gas was $1.50 a gallon
when I was collecting unemployment. I think I was getting $150 a week. $600 a >week is better but if you're paying a morgage or even renting an apartment you >etter have some money in the bank. I haven't heard anything about $900 but it s
ems to me that's what it should be for many. That's just my opinion ...
I could be wrong.
Yeah, I'm not sure either. I just know that when *I* collect unemployment, it's a pittance. And you know what really sucks? If it's not enough to get by (which it obviously is not) and you earn more dough on the side, but report that income to the EDD (like you're legally supposed to), then then reduce your unemployment compensation by the same amount. Now, that's fucked up.
And then then schedule these stupid classes for you to go to and if you don't show (because let's say you have a job interview at the same time), then they cancel your unemployment comp. It's a messed up system that assumes you're out to scam it and there's no way to "opt-out". I'm definitely not a fan.
Digital Man wrote to Gamgee <=-
What does unemployment pay days? I was reading you get your full
pay check. Is that true?
As far as I know, unemployment benefits have absolutely NOTHING to
do with what your (former) paycheck was. It's a set amount and
everybody gets the same, I think. It's not very much.
At least here in California, the umemployment comp is capped
based on how much you previously made, but then it's also capped
at those stupid low numbers.
Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-
As far as I know, unemployment benefits have absolutely NOTHING to
do with what your (former) paycheck was. It's a set amount and
everybody gets the same, I think. It's not very much.
In my past experience, the unemployment department in Oregon had
said it's a percentage of your last income, up to a certain
maximum.
Yeah, I'm not sure either. I just know that when *I* collect unemployment, it's a pittance. And you know what really sucks? If it's not enough to get by (which it obviously is not) and you earn more dough on the side, but report that income to the EDD (like you're legally supposed to), then then reduce your unemployment compensation by the same amount. Now, that's fucked up.
And then then schedule these stupid classes for you to go to and if you don't show (because let's say you have a job interview at the same time), then they cancel your unemployment comp. It's a messed up system that assumes you're out to scam it and there's no way to "opt-out". I'm definitely not a fan.
Here in Tennessee, they also require you to document at least three attempts to get a job every week you're getting benefits, unless you meet a very narrow set of exemption requirements. Also, if you are unable to immediately accept any job offer, such as say getting yourself stuck in a hospital or an imposed quaranteen due to a novel viral outbreak, you are technically not
I lived with a guy the collected unemployment here in New York. All he had to do was check in by phone and say he still needed his check and was still unemployed.
I lived with a guy the collected unemployment here in New York. All he had to do was check in by phone and say he still needed his check and was still unemployed.
I agree. I'm often hesitant to take port-time or short-term work while I'm unemployed since it would reduce my unemployment benefits.
Oregon doesn't make you take classes. Currently, each week, we just have to report 2 jobs we've applied to and 3 job-search activities, which could be something as simple as updating your resume, or going to a job search group, or networking with people, talking to recruiters, etc..
HusTler wrote to Prime <=-
I lived with a guy the collected unemployment here in New York. All
he had to do was check in by phone and say he still needed his check
and was still unemployed.
Re: Job Market
By: Prime to Digital Man on Wed Apr 08 2020 11:01 pm
Here in Tennessee, they also require you to document at least three attempts to get a job every week you're getting benefits, unless you meet a very narrow set of exemption requirements. Also, if you are unable to immediately accept any job offer, such as say getting yourself stuck in a hospital or an imposed quaranteen due to a novel viral outbreak, you are technically not
I lived with a guy the collected unemployment here in New York. All he had to do was check in by phone and say he still needed his check and was still unemployed.
I just signed up for Unemployment today, what a pain in the ASS that
was. I was acrually just furloughed from my job 3 weeks ago, My
company paid me t first 2 weeks, then I also got prophit sharing, but
now got a waiting week t get paid :( oh well doing good so far.
so you did a leave of absence and then were laid off?
if i were you i'd just go get another job instead of getting unemployment.
What does unemployment pay days? I was reading you get your full pay check. Is that true?
@MSGID: <5E8FC640.31126.dove.dove-gen@realitycheckbbs.org>Yea, im from the pre-covid unemployed and Im still expected to search for work.
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HusTler wrote to Prime <=-
I lived with a guy the collected unemployment here in New York. All he had to do was check in by phone and say he still needed his check and was still unemployed.
In California, there's a form you fill out every 2 weeks, with questions about your job search, whether you looked for a job, declined any work, took
any classes, or were sick and unable to work. The paper form had a space to list 4 job applications per week, assumed that was a minimum.
There was also a mandatory class which could have been of some help to job seekers, mostly letting them know about resources for entry level positions,I told the counselor I needed help on cover letters and the counselor just left me to my
availability of internet access at the EDD offices, resume workshops, etc.
kind of the same thing in Canada. You answer a could of question on a website or over the phone that you where able to work etc. and that's it.
now here if you say that you lost your job because of covid you get
2000$ a month, no question asked. Some orderly working in long term care facility don't even get that. So some provinces had to increase theirs
I lived with a guy the collected unemployment here in New York. All he had to do was check in by phone and say he still needed his check and was still unemployed.
How long ago was that? I'm wondering if that's still the case because I've collected unemployment from both Oregon and Washington State, and you could go online and file your unemployment claim, and you have to report things like jobs you've applied to, etc..
$2000 a month??! In Canadanian money right?
Re: Job Market
Err 2011-12 maybe. We would have coffee in the kitchen and hear him call. When he was done I'd say "That's it?" He would say "Yep, that's it". I couldn't believe my ears. Whoever this guy wanted to work and found another job within a month. There was another guy in the house collecting for over a year. When they told him his unemployment was running out he magically found a job. How about that? ;-)
Mine is $417 per week + an extra $600 per month with what the govmnt just added.
Re: Job Market
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Apr 08 2020 12:55 pm
Yeah, I'm not sure either. I just know that when *I* collect unemployme it's a pittance. And you know what really sucks? If it's not enough to by (which it obviously is not) and you earn more dough on the side, but report that income to the EDD (like you're legally supposed to), then t reduce your unemployment compensation by the same amount. Now, that's fucked up.
I agree. I'm often hesitant to take port-time or short-term work while I'm unemployed since it would reduce my unemployment benefits.
Oregon doesn't make you take classes. Currently, each week, we just have to report 2 jobs we've applied to and 3 job-search activities, which could be something as simple as updating your resume, or going to a job search group, networking with people, talking to recruiters, etc..
I told the counselor I needed help on cover letters and the counselor just l me to my
own devices, but cover letters can make or break a resume. Sometimes public help
doesn't help well.
Re: Job Market
By: Denn to HusTler on Thu Apr 09 2020 11:27 pm
Mine is $417 per week + an extra $600 per month with what the govmnt just added.
Oh It's $600 per month not per week. I misunderstood what they said on the news. So now you get $567 per week. What's the time frame on that? A year? You don't have to be sick to get it I hope. ;-)
Oh It's $600 per month not per week. I misunderstood what they said on
the news. So now you get $567 per week. What's the time frame on that?
A year? You don't have to be sick to get it I hope. ;-)
oh shit i thought it was 600/wk too.Everything Ive seen says its 600 a week.
i was hoping they'd lay off or fire my ass.
Re: Job Market
By: MRO to HusTler on Fri Apr 10 2020 04:41 pm
Oh It's $600 per month not per week. I misunderstood what they said on
the news. So now you get $567 per week. What's the time frame on that?
A year? You don't have to be sick to get it I hope. ;-)
oh shit i thought it was 600/wk too.Everything Ive seen says its 600 a week.
i was hoping they'd lay off or fire my ass.
Mine is $417 per week + an extra $600 per month with what the govmnt
just added.
Oh It's $600 per month not per week. I misunderstood what they said on the news. So now you get $567 per week. What's the time frame on that? A year? You don't have to be sick to get it I hope. ;-)
Mine is $417 per week + an extra $600 per month with what the govmntOh It's $600 per month not per week. I misunderstood what they said on
just added.
I'm really not sure on the $600 how it works.
I was assuming but not sure if i'm right or wrong.
I'm really not sure on the $600 how it works.Mine is $417 per week + an extra $600 per month with what the govmntOh It's $600 per month not per week. I misunderstood what they said on
just added.
I was assuming but not sure if i'm right or wrong.
By: MATTHEW MUNSON to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Thu Apr 09 2020 10:32 amLast time I was looking for work was in 2015. I do write 2-3 paragraphs, stating why.
i cant believe at your age you have a problem with a fucking cover letter, matt. you have ran for public office but you cant write down 'hi, i'm matt munson. i'm currently looking for employment at a stable company with a future.
my qualifications are x and x'
Re: Job Market
By: Denn to HusTler on Sat Apr 11 2020 01:28 am
Mine is $417 per week + an extra $600 per month with what the govmntOh It's $600 per month not per week. I misunderstood what they said
just added.
I'm really not sure on the $600 how it works.
I was assuming but not sure if i'm right or wrong.
I think its per week. If it is it's certainly motivation to take a "paid" vacation from your current. Layoffs are usually temporary and you eventually get called back to work.
I just went to https://labor.ny.gov/benefit-rate-calculator/
If I made $2880 per month ($18.00 hr) my weekly check would be $115.00 a weekand get another $600 per week (Everyone) until July 31st.
If I make $6000 per month I get $230 per week plus $600 per week until July 31st.
By: MATTHEW MUNSON to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Thu Apr 09 2020 10:32 am
i cant believe at your age you have a problem with a fucking cover lette matt. you have ran for public office but you cant write down 'hi, i'm m munson. i'm currently looking for employment at a stable company with a future.Last time I was looking for work was in 2015. I do write 2-3 paragraphs, stating why.
my qualifications are x and x'
stating why.
whatever dude, you shouldnt need help writing a resume or coverletter. you are in your 40s.
oh god ny doesnt pay shit for unemployment. you think with all those people they have enough tax money or whatever to pay more. maybe too many people were on it.
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That Maybe. I know I couldn't make it on unemployment. I can see someone collecting for a month or may two but a year? That would mean someone else was paying the rent. Probably mommy and daddy. I've noticed kids in their thirties are still living with their parents these days. When I turned 18 my parents said happy birthday son. You are now officially an adult. Now get the fuck out!
Mine is $417 per week + an extra $600 per month with what the
govmnt just added.
I'm really not sure on the $600 how it works.
If I made $2880 per month ($18.00 hr) my weekly check would be $115.00 a weekand get another $600 per week (Everyone) until July 31st.
I think its per week. If it is it's certainly motivation to take a "paid" vacation from your current. Layoffs are usually temporary and you eventually get called back to work.
parents these days. When I turned 18 my parents said happy birthday
son. You are now officially an adult. Now get the fuck out!
It seems maybe a little harsh to kick someone out when they're 18. In some other countries, it's the norm for people to stay living with their parents until they get married.
It seems maybe a little harsh to kick someone out when they're 18. In some other countries, it's the norm for people to stay living with their parents until they get married.
And what if you want to go to college? My college program was intense enoug (at least in the first couple years) that after day classes, many of us
students would stay in the lab until around 9PM or so working on our
homewor
assigments before going home, and we'd also come in to the lab on Saturdays work on our homework. After a while I just didn't really have time for a jo and I'm glad I had some support then.. Though when I went on for my bachelo degree, I had some time to work part time.
Of course it was very harsh and I'm happy to see parents allowing their kids to find their way before asking them to leave. It's extremely important.
The 70's were a much different time. There was a draft going
on. You were a man when you turned 18 and could fight in Vietnam. I had
other plans if my number came up. Vietnam was not in those plans. The draft ended in 73. My father was out of work and money was tight. I tried one semester of college and dropped out. My father started a sewer business so I went to work for him digging ditches. I was paid well for a 19 year old hippie living in a recession. When I look back I did not have a good start in life. I never did find my "niche". I went from job to job hating most all of them but the bills had to get paid. I'll never know what it feels like to have a "Rewarding Job" The closest I had to that was being a volunteer fire fighter and playing in bands.Anywhoo my son just purchased his first house. He's 36 now. We never asked him to leave. He completed college and has a good job in the tech industry. Don't do has I do. Do as I say.
;-)
i was out at 18. all you need to do is get a JOB
it's not harsh.
lots of people work and go to school.
It seems maybe a little harsh to kick someone out when they're 18. In
some other countries, it's the norm for people to stay living with
their parents until they get married.
i was out at 18. all you need to do is get a JOB
it's not harsh.
lots of people work and go to school.
It's weird that when you're 18, you're considered a man and old enough to fi in a war, but still too young to buy alcoholic beverages.
i was out at 18. all you need to do is get a JOB
it's not harsh.
I was also out at 18 and have worked since it was legal (when I was 14). It was a shitty childhood and I think it's quite harsh.
lots of people work and go to school.
This doesn't mean it's ideal, or necessarily even appropriate...
i was out at 18. all you need to do is get a JOB
it's not harsh.
There's a lot of argument these days about how entry-level/minimum wage jobs don't pay a living wage. People often say entry-level jobs shouldn't be expected to pay enough for a living wage, and that you should learn a trade go to college so you can get a better-paying job. So if you want to kick yo kids out when they're 18, I'd think you'd be in favor of minimum wage paying enough to be a living wage, OR want to allow your kids to stay a bit longer while they're in college or trade school so they can get a better-paying jo
lots of people work and go to school.
True, though it can sometimes be difficult, particularly if the classes for
Re: Re: Job Market
By: ryan to MRO on Mon Apr 13 2020 01:19 pm
lots of people work and go to school.
This doesn't mean it's ideal, or necessarily even appropriate...
Yep. "Because that's the way it has been done before" isn't always a good reason.
There's a lot of argument these days about how entry-level/minimum wage jobs don't pay a living wage. People often say entry-level jobs shouldn't be expected to pay enough for a living wage, and that you should learn a trade or go to college so you can get a better-paying job. So if you want to kick your kids out when they're 18, I'd think you'd be in favor of
It's weird that when you're 18, you're considered a man and old enough
to fi in a war, but still too young to buy alcoholic beverages.
the reasoning behind the no alcohol for 18 year olds is because they know that the older kids will provide. if 18 year olds were legal to drink, then even younger kids below them would be provided alcohol.
Re: Job Market
By: Nightfox to MRO on Mon Apr 13 2020 01:15 pm
There's a lot of argument these days about how entry-level/minimum wage jobs don't pay a living wage. People often say entry-level jobs shouldn be expected to pay enough for a living wage, and that you should learn trade or go to college so you can get a better-paying job. So if you wa to kick your kids out when they're 18, I'd think you'd be in favor of
Listen.. I have this all figured out. Here's what you do. You commit a cri such as robbery or even assault and make sure you get sent to jail. If you don't suceed try try again. Once your in jail you get free rent, food, medic and even dental. Then you can earn a college degree in jail for free and you good to go when you get out. That will be 10-15 years earlier then your original sentence cause you earned a college degree. Ya see? Nuttin to it! N get out there and go rob someone Dammit!
HusTler@havens.synchro.net
I don't think that makes it legal for 18 year olds to drink though..
I wasn't around yet in the 70s, but I've heard about the draft and the recession and the gasoline shortage & rationing, etc.. Sounds like it was a difficult time to live in.
adversity builds character.
people like that make me want to puke. there's nothing wrong with hard work and picking up a job when you are in school shouldnt be a shitty childhood. ---
you're missing the point. they KNOW they get it from older kids. if
they make the age lower, even younger kids will probably get it. or that's what they thought when they established all of this.
Nightfox wrote to Digital Man <=-
Re: Job Market
By: Digital Man to HusTler on Wed Apr 08 2020 12:10 am
I think it varies by state. In Oregon, the maximum seems to be $544 a week right now.
Nightfox
Re: Re: Job Market
By: Nightfox to ryan on Mon Apr 13 2020 04:19 pm
Re: Re: Job Market
By: ryan to MRO on Mon Apr 13 2020 01:19 pm
lots of people work and go to school.
This doesn't mean it's ideal, or necessarily even appropriate...
Yep. "Because that's the way it has been done before" isn't always a good reason.
if something has been done before, and done a lot, there's probably a good reason for it.
take cutting your dick off for example. people have cut their dick off, but it's generally a bad idea and not benefitial.
Re: Job Market
By: Nightfox to MRO on Mon Apr 13 2020 07:21 pm
I don't think that makes it legal for 18 year olds to drink though..
you're missing the point. they KNOW they get it from older kids. if they make the age lower, even younger kids will probably get it. or that's what they thought when they established all of this.
Not to butt in but my point of view is, it was easy back then and with all the crazy things going on now it was good times.
Four fingers of gold going around for about 40.00 and gas was cheaper.
Has it ever occurred to you that simply because something has worked out in your life a particular way, it may not be the same for everyone?
Re: Job Market
By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Apr 13 2020 02:41 pm
It seems maybe a little harsh to kick someone out when they're 18. In
some other countries, it's the norm for people to stay living with
their parents until they get married.
i was out at 18. all you need to do is get a JOB
it's not harsh.
There's a lot of argument these days about how entry-level/minimum wage jobs get a better-paying job. So if you want to kick your kids out when they're y can get a better-paying job to be more prepared to live on their own.
lots of people work and go to school.
True, though it can sometimes be difficult, particularly if the classes for s so you can go after work.
Nightfox
Re: Job Market
By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Apr 13 2020 06:10 pm
It's weird that when you're 18, you're considered a man and old enough
to fi in a war, but still too young to buy alcoholic beverages.
the reasoning behind the no alcohol for 18 year olds is because they kn that the older kids will provide. if 18 year olds were legal to drink, then even younger kids below them would be provided alcohol.
I don't think that makes it legal for 18 year olds to drink though..
Nightfox
Re: Job Market
By: Nightfox to MRO on Mon Apr 13 2020 07:21 pm
I don't think that makes it legal for 18 year olds to drink though..
you're missing the point. they KNOW they get it from older kids. if they m the age lower, even younger kids will probably get it. or that's what they thought when they established all of this.
if something has been done before, and done a lot, there's probably a
good reason for it.
take cutting your dick off for example. people have cut their dick
off, but it's generally a bad idea and not benefitial.
What about just cutting off part of it?
Just leaving a thought here....
the reasoning behind the no alcohol for 18 year olds is because they know that >the older kids will provide. if 18 year olds were legal to drink, then even >younger kids below them would be provided alcohol.
well some people are weaker than others. i had a big fucking paper route when >i was 14-16 then i worked at a garden/hardware store at 17.
when i was 18 and graduated i got a factory job and an apartment to live at.
adversity builds character.
some people still can't put a roof over their own head.
there are some friends of my facebook friends who are just loser breeders. they
shit out a bunch of kids and then dont even want a fulltime job. they cant even
provide for the children they have.
they were complaining about being poor and i told them i have a fulltime job >and then another one i go to for a few hours after job1. i told her i'm not >hurting for money and i don't have any problems. she said to enjoy my life in >hell.
i told her i enjoyed the work and i enjoyed my coworkers.
she's in her mid 30s and making a little over 10 bucks an hour and she's >'doing what she enjoys'.
people like that make me want to puke. there's nothing wrong with hard work and
picking up a job when you are in school shouldnt be a shitty childhood.
Yep. "Because that's the way it has been done before" isn't always a good reaslots of people work and go to school.This doesn't mean it's ideal, or necessarily even appropriate...
n.
Very true. I can't believe the prices today. Of course you are referring to Acapulco Gold https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acapulco_Gold
Dumas Walker wrote to MRO <=-
the reasoning behind the no alcohol for 18 year olds is because they know that
the older kids will provide. if 18 year olds were legal to drink, then even
younger kids below them would be provided alcohol.
Didn't the drinking age in Wisconsin used to be 18? Seems like I
knew a lot of kids from down here that went to UW-Madison just
for that reason. :)
Re: Job Market
By: Nightfox to HusTler on Mon Apr 13 2020 01:05 pm
I wasn't around yet in the 70s, but I've heard about the draft and the recession and the gasoline shortage & rationing, etc.. Sounds like it w a difficult time to live in.
Not to butt in but my point of view is, it was easy back then and with all
the crazy things going on now it was good times.
Four fingers of gold going around for about 40.00 and gas was cheaper.
I had a 65 GTO for five hundred bucks and then bought a new 71 Charger 440 Pack, Dyna rear end and four speed for 3.600 dollars. A really, really great apartment for 170.00 a month so on and so on.
people like that make me want to puke. there's nothing wrong with hard work and picking up a job when you are in school shouldnt be a shitty childhood. ---
Has it ever occurred to you that simply because something has worked out in your life a particular way, it may not be the same for everyone?
you're missing the point. they KNOW they get it from older kids. if they make the age lower, even younger kids will probably get it. or that's what they thought when they established all of this.
Any chance you can cite this or are you just going off the cuff here?
The reason the drinking age is 21 is because the federal government threatened to cut highway funding to states that kept the drinking age below 21, in an effort to reduce traffic fatalities.
some people still can't put a roof over their own head.
there are some friends of my facebook friends who are just loser
breeders. they shit out a bunch of kids and then dont even want a
fulltime job. they cant even provide for the children they have.
Or they married someone who can take care of them & the kids (sometimes that is a man who married a woman, too... just saying).
the reasoning behind the no alcohol for 18 year olds is because they know t >the older kids will provide. if 18 year olds were legal to drink, then eve >younger kids below them would be provided alcohol.
Didn't the drinking age in Wisconsin used to be 18? Seems like I knew a
lot of kids from down here that went to UW-Madison just for that reason. :)
That reminds me of some of the folks I went to school with. They majored
in things like poli-sci or humanities or language arts, and now they complain about how the government should take care of everyone... I don't mean just those who cannot take care of themselves, I mean EVERYONE.
What I get out of it is proof that very few 18 y/o's practice their right vote.
Sounds silly that an 18-20 y/o can be trusted to pilot a $6.2 million tank that can level a building full of people but can't be trusted with a case beer for fear they may furnish to a minor.
i base everything on experience and what i see.
so yes, there are weak pussies that find everything difficult.
The reason the drinking age is 21 is because the federal government threatened to cut highway funding to states that kept the drinking age 21, in an effort to reduce traffic fatalities.
is that what wikipedia told you?
so were traffic fatalities reduced?
170 in 1970 is 1,130.92 in 2020
Re: Re: Job Market
By: Prime to MRO on Tue Apr 14 2020 05:04 pm
if something has been done before, and done a lot, there's probably a
good reason for it.
take cutting your dick off for example. people have cut their dick
off, but it's generally a bad idea and not benefitial.
What about just cutting off part of it?
Just leaving a thought here....
I'm not sure that's necessarily beneficial either, but I'll just leave that thought here..
Nightfox
ryan wrote to MRO <=-
i base everything on experience and what i see.
so yes, there are weak pussies that find everything difficult.
You base everything on subjective experience and how things
appear to you, which is just a tad sociopathic ;)
Well, I'd have to say that basing one's opinions on actual
*experience* and *first-hand* observation is a pretty good way to approach things. Subjective? Yes, of course. How could it not
be? What possible better way to form opinions could there be?
Has it ever occurred to you that simply because something has worked
out in your life a particular way, it may not be the same for
everyone?
i base everything on experience and what i see.
so yes, there are weak pussies that find everything difficult.
so yes, there are weak pussies that find everything difficult.
You base everything on subjective experience and how things
appear to you, which is just a tad sociopathic ;)
Well, I'd have to say that basing one's opinions on actual
*experience* and *first-hand* observation is a pretty good way to approach things. Subjective? Yes, of course. How could it not
be? What possible better way to form opinions could there be?
i base everything on experience and what i see.
so yes, there are weak pussies that find everything difficult.
You base everything on subjective experience and how things appear to you, which is just a tad sociopathic ;)
The reason the drinking age is 21 is because the federal government threatened to cut highway funding to states that kept the drinking a 21, in an effort to reduce traffic fatalities.
is that what wikipedia told you?
No, but I'm sure wikipedia (which is a trustworthy source of information in
some people still can't put a roof over their own head.
there are some friends of my facebook friends who are just loser
breeders. they shit out a bunch of kids and then dont even want a
fulltime job. they cant even provide for the children they have.
Or they married someone who can take care of them & the kids (sometimes that is a man who married a woman, too... just saying).
Did you mean to say can, or can't?
That reminds me of some of the folks I went to school with. They majored
in things like poli-sci or humanities or language arts, and now they
complain about how the government should take care of everyone... I don't
mean just those who cannot take care of themselves, I mean EVERYONE.
anyways, he didnt graduate and couldnt even get a job at a diner washing dishes or waiting tables.
of course he considers himself a democrat and hated bush back in the day
and blamed him for all his problems and probably hates trump too.
i'm not friends with him because i'm not friends with losers. he's a nice guy but i'm not going to be friends with someone who will probably be begging for money all the time. he wasted his whole life away and just gets drunk and smokes weed. at 43 he is the same 17 year old kid i knew then.
hold on. anybody can edit wikipedia. it's not a trustworthy source of information. Nobody involved with wikipedia is a credible researcher.
at best, wikipedia is accurate based only on plagarism. it's very very
views. you can provide false sources quite easily.
i thought you were a smart person. i guess i was wrong.
Re: Re: Job Market
By: MRO to ryan on Tue Apr 14 2020 09:42 pm
Has it ever occurred to you that simply because something has worked
out in your life a particular way, it may not be the same for
everyone?
i base everything on experience and what i see.
so yes, there are weak pussies that find everything difficult.
I have a feeling there is a significant cultural bias here in what you say. some other countries, it's common for poeple to continue living with their parents until they get married. It's not about being a pussy - they are nor people who get jobs (and maybe a higher education too) and contribute. Some cultures and some people are more group and family-oriented, in that they ar willing to help their family succeed.
By the term "minimum wage," it infers that would be the least you could live on. I think inflation outpaced it
i'm talking about people in western civilization. i'm not talking about people in india who live with their entire family in a 200sq ft dwelling.
Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-
so yes, there are weak pussies that find everything difficult.
You base everything on subjective experience and how things
appear to you, which is just a tad sociopathic ;)
Well, I'd have to say that basing one's opinions on actual
*experience* and *first-hand* observation is a pretty good way to
approach things. Subjective? Yes, of course. How could it not
be? What possible better way to form opinions could there be?
Everyone's experiences are different. To say that people who
aren't kicked out when they're 18 are "weak pussies" seems a
little extreme to me, as everyone's experience and beliefs are
different..
so yes, there are weak pussies that find everything difficult.
I have a feeling there is a significant cultural bias here in what you
say. some other countries, it's common for poeple to continue living
with their parents until they get married. It's not about being a
pussy - they are nor people who get jobs (and maybe a higher education
too) and contribute. Some cultures and some people are more group and
family-oriented, in that they ar willing to help their family succeed.
i'm talking about people in western civilization. i'm not talking about people in india who live with their entire family in a 200sq ft dwelling.
By the term "minimum wage," it infers that would be the least you
could live on. I think inflation outpaced it
I grew up understanding 'minimum wage' was the minimum wage a company was required to pay an employee, by law. Nothing to do with how much one feels is required to live on. How much money one requires to live on is quite subjective to a multitude of factors such as preference and location.
Everyone's experiences are different. To say that people who
aren't kicked out when they're 18 are "weak pussies" seems a
little extreme to me, as everyone's experience and beliefs are
different..
I don't disagree with that, at all. Just would like to point out
that I wasn't the one who said that in the first place... ;-)
What I get out of it is proof that very few 18 y/o's practice their right to vote.Then let them buy beer at the base exchange.
Sounds silly that an 18-20 y/o can be trusted to pilot a $6.2 million tank that can level a building full of people but can't be trusted with a case of beer for fear they may furnish to a minor.
On 04-15-20 15:50, ryan wrote to MRO <=-
False. Wikipedia is accurate based on citing sources, and community moderation.
but i'm not going to be friends with someone who will probably be begging money all the time. he wasted his whole life away and just gets drunk and smokes weed. at 43 he is the same 17 year old kid i knew then.
You didn't go to school around Louisville, KY, in the mid/late 1980's, did you? <GRIN> That sounds sort of like some dudes I knew (except they'd be 45-50 by now).
at best, wikipedia is accurate based only on plagarism. it's very very
False. Wikipedia is accurate based on citing sources, and community moderation.
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By the term "minimum wage," it infers that would be the least you could live on. I think inflation outpaced it
I grew up understanding 'minimum wage' was the minimum wage a company was required to pay an employee, by law.
Nothing to do with how much one feels is required to live on. How much money one requires to live on is quite subjective to a multitude of factors such a preference and location.
i'm talking about people in western civilization. i'm not talking about people in india who live with their entire family in a 200sq ft dwellin
Jesus. You're a real class act.
You may be partially misisng the point. My point was that there's more than one way to do something, and someone continuing to live at home with parents other family doesn't mean they are a weak pussy. Also, times change. With housing prices rising as much as they are, I've heard of more and more peopl continuing to live at home with their parents or other family (or friends) a sharing the mortgage rather than buying their own house. Even apartment lea can be stupid-expensive these days.
That was my understanding as well. A company isn't always motivated to pay high wage, and often will probably want to pay their employees as low as the can get away with.
I remember reading somewhere that studies done into various encyclopedias fo that Wikipedia was as good as, if not better than traditional encyclopedias, far as factual correctness goes, because of the way it's moderated by the
The myth that Wikipedia is untrustworthy still persists, however. :/
That was my understanding as well. A company isn't always motivated
to pay high wage, and often will probably want to pay their employees
as low as the can get away with.
here's what happens: nobody will work for them. so they have
to change their ways.
minimum wage is a non issue to me. i've never made it and none of the people i know make it. nowadays in the usa it seems that people like to do the bare minimum and 'do what makes them happy'. i just want to make money.
You may be partially misisng the point. My point was that there's
more than one way to do something, and someone continuing to live at
home with parents other family doesn't mean they are a weak pussy.
Also, times change. With housing prices rising as much as they are,
I've heard of more and more peopl continuing to live at home with
their parents or other family (or friends) a sharing the mortgage
rather than buying their own house. Even apartment lea can be
stupid-expensive these days.
a person should be able to support themself and put a roof over their head. shit isnt that hard.
i had a full time job and a part time job and i had more money than i knew what to do with. the usa is easy, dude. if you cant get your shit together here, it's pathetic.
170 in 1970 is 1,130.92 in 2020
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Jesus. You're a real class act.
minimum wage is a non issue to me. i've never made it and none of the people i know make it. nowadays in the usa it seems that people like to do the bare minimum and 'do what makes them happy'. i just want to make money.
You didn't go to school around Louisville, KY, in the mid/late 1980's, did you? <GRIN> That sounds sort of like some dudes I knew (except they'd be 45-50 by now).
he told me he moved down there in 1998 to live with his brother.
he were broker than dirt and starving and he came back to live with his dad.
I have a feeling there is a significant cultural bias here in what you say. In
some other countries, it's common for poeple to continue living with their pare
ts until they get married. It's not about being a pussy - they are normal peop
e who get jobs (and maybe a higher education too) and contribute. Some culture
and some people are more group and family-oriented, in that they are willing to
help their family succeed.
I grew up understanding 'minimum wage' was the minimum wage a company was >He> required to pay an employee, by law. Nothing to do with how much one feels >He> is required to live on. How much money one requires to live on is quite >He> subjective to a multitude of factors such as preference and location.
That was my understanding as well. A company isn't always motivated to pay a h
gh wage, and often will probably want to pay their employees as low as they can
get away with.
Re: Job Market
By: MRO to Nightfox on Wed Apr 15 2020 10:03 pm
That was my understanding as well. A company isn't always motivated
to pay high wage, and often will probably want to pay their employees
as low as the can get away with.
here's what happens: nobody will work for them. so they have
to change their ways.
Yep, that was my idea with "as low as they can get away with".
Re: Job Market
By: MRO to Hemo on Wed Apr 15 2020 09:55 pm
minimum wage is a non issue to me. i've never made it and none of the people i know make it. nowadays in the usa it seems that people like to the bare minimum and 'do what makes them happy'. i just want to make money.
You've never made minimum wage? My first job when I was 16 started off at minimum wage.. Though I got raises over time there and eventually I was mak more than minimum wage. I've had different jobs since then too.. just sayi we have to start somewhere.
here, it's pathetic.
Here's some links: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/more-millennials-are-living-at-home-than-at-any her-time-this-century/
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/05/24/479327382/for-first-time- 130-years-more-young-adults-live-with-parents-than-partners
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/feb/08/million-more-young-adults-li parents-uk-housing
Re: Today
By: MRO to Havok on Tue Apr 14 2020 09:40 pm
170 in 1970 is 1,130.92 in 2020
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Holy Shit!
Re: Re: Job Market
By: ryan to MRO on Wed Apr 15 2020 04:24 pm
Jesus. You're a real class act.
Oh my sides hurt!
I read this and laughed sooooooo hard...
I did that until I did not have a job that I got laid off from every few months. :) But there is a difference between what he & I described and what you described. You mention jobs, higher education, and contributing. The people we speak of might get a college degree in something very impractical because it made them happy, but they are not working or contributing. They do a lot of complaining about how the government should take care of them, too.
You cannot tell me they do not exist. I went to HS with a few, and to college with a whole bunch.
keep on hurting them. i stated a fact.
minimum wage is a non issue to me. i've never made it and none ofthe MR> people i know make it. nowadays in the usa it seems that people You've never made minimum wage? My first job when I was 16 started off
at minimum wage.. Though I got raises over time there and eventually I
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