On 03-15-20 23:48, Tracker1 wrote to DOVE-Net.General <=-
@VIA: VERT/TRN
Thinking it might be worthwhile to setup and configure an nntp hub...
the hub would run synchronet, and would appreciate any help with
this... probably going to run on DigitalOcean with a standard backup
set (weekly) and maybe do a daily backup dump over to another location.
Would anyone currently working with say 8+ nets on Synchronet be
willing to work with me on getting this going? Will probably only
allow NNTP and NNTP+SSL with HTTP(s) static content on the hub's usage.
Would love to get it setup as an option for those networks to allow
other boards to use it as an nntp gateway to the nets in question. For myself, wanting to integrate with BBS.land (when I can get to it) and
the new Roughneck BBS. Could also do a bit of other integration in
order to support QWK feeds, as well as a web app for signup and
approval to the hub, or to specific nets.
Tracker1 wrote to DOVE-Net.General <=-
Thinking it might be worthwhile to setup and configure an nntp hub...
the hub would run synchronet, and would appreciate any help with
this... probably going to run on DigitalOcean with a standard backup
set (weekly) and maybe do a daily backup dump over to another location.
Tracker1 wrote to DOVE-Net.General <=-
Thinking it might be worthwhile to setup and configure an nntp hub... the hub would run synchronet, and would appreciate any help with this... probably going to run on DigitalOcean with a standard backup set (weekly) and maybe do a daily backup dump over to another location.
Gating existing boards via NNTP is easy, just requires a toggle to the board definition in scfg. Getting fed via NNTP is a bit of a pain, it requires editing newslink.cfg by hand.
I suppose it's similar to AREAS.BBS.
Would anyone currently working with say 8+ nets on Synchronet be
willing to work with me on getting this going? Will probably only
allow NNTP and NNTP+SSL with HTTP(s) static content on the hub's usage.
I carry over a dozen nets on my Synchronet board, using a mix of QWK and FTN. I'm also a QWK <--> FTN gateway for several nets.
While I don't use NNTP myself, any idea that's a bit different intrigues me, and I'm interested to see how this will look. :)
Thinking it might be worthwhile to setup and configure an nntp hub...
the hub would run synchronet, and would appreciate any help with
this... probably going to run on DigitalOcean with a standard backup
set (weekly) and maybe do a daily backup dump over to another location.
Gating existing boards via NNTP is easy, just requires a toggle to the board definition in scfg. Getting fed via NNTP is a bit of a pain, it requires editing newslink.cfg by hand.
I suppose it's similar to AREAS.BBS.
On 03-19-20 19:13, Tracker1 wrote to Vk3jed <=-
While I don't use NNTP myself, any idea that's a bit different intrigues me, and I'm interested to see how this will look. :)
Would you have some time the weekend of the 28th? I'm in Phoenix, AZ,
US (GMT-0700). Also, how comfortable are you with linux/ssh?
Linux/SSH? I use both all the time, and my systems are Linux based, so no dramas then. As for that weekend, I should have some time, because most things
are cancelled. It would be sometime late afternoon into evening, most likely the Saturday your time, because I think I have an appointment or two on Monday
morning, which would take a fair chunk out of your Sunday evening.
My timezone is UTC+1100 until 1600 UTC April 4, then it reverts to UTC+10.
On 03-19-20 23:10, Tracker1 wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Cool, will probably set sbbs and the server up before then,
passwordless ssh on a non-standard port... Not sure if you've used VS
Code's SSH Remote, but it's pretty nice. Since there won't be any
remote telnet/ssh for the "bbs" setup, will probably leave that portion completely stock...
My email is tracker1 at gmail if you want to send me your id_rsa.pub so
I can add you to remote access when I set it up. Looks like 10pm
friday for me is your saturday at 4pm. (18 hours ahead of me). I have hangouts via the same email address...
Thinking it might be worthwhile to setup and configure an nntp hub...
the hub would run synchronet, and would appreciate any help with this... probably going to run on DigitalOcean with a standard backup set
(weekly) and maybe do a daily backup dump over to another location.
Would anyone currently working with say 8+ nets on Synchronet be willing
to work with me on getting this going? Will probably only allow NNTP
and NNTP+SSL with HTTP(s) static content on the hub's usage.
Would love to get it setup as an option for those networks to allow
other boards to use it as an nntp gateway to the nets in question. For myself, wanting to integrate with BBS.land (when I can get to it) and
the new Roughneck BBS. Could also do a bit of other integration in
order to support QWK feeds, as well as a web app for signup and approval
to the hub, or to specific nets.
Code's SSH Remote, but it's pretty nice. Since there won't be any
Is it a bog standard SSH client or something else? This reference is pretty confusing, because there's a possibility you're stating the obvious (remember,
I've used SSH for _decades_. :) ).
remote telnet/ssh for the "bbs" setup, will probably leave that portion completely stock...
Which "portion"? Since you said there will be no telnet/SSH on the BBS, this contradicts the "non standard port" above *confused look* ;)
Cool. I can only do text interaction most of the time, voice and video are not
practical. I know Hangouts used to have a decent (non web) client for text, but I don't know now.
Anyway, email with SSH key sent. :)
I'm on about 20 different nets and they can all be accessed through the nntp interface. It just works.
On 03-21-20 02:30, Tracker1 wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Visual studio code is a programming text editor + more... there's a
plugin that will allow you to "open" a remote directory (over ssh) and edit files in the editor. There's also an integrated terminal that you can run shell commands in... it's been really beneficial for live
editing remote configs.
hisremote telnet/ssh for the "bbs" setup, will probably leave that portion completely stock...
Which "portion"? Since you said there will be no telnet/SSH on the BBS,
contradicts the "non standard port" above *confused look* ;)
Sorry... I'll have the nntp port(s) open. Not sure if there is a
terminal based user editor outside the standard telnet interface, which you could access over an ssh tunnel, or after connected via ssh.
Mainly thinking in terms of creating BBS user accounts while working on
a web interface for this.
Cool. I can only do text interaction most of the time, voice and video areno
t
practical. I know Hangouts used to have a decent (non web) client for text, but I don't know now.
Anyway, email with SSH key sent. :)
Got it, will probably get this setup over the weekend... cancelled my camping trip.
On 03-21-20 02:37, Tracker1 wrote to Nelgin <=-
That's cool, and would appreciate any help from you (and Vk3jed) in getting some networks onboarded.
Part of this is entirely selfish... I'm wanting to write some custom
code surrounding bbs.land and roughneckbbs for a nicer UI/UX over the
top of message boards. NNTP feels like a natural interface to work from... as I can take that access and feed into whatever database structure I'd like to use downstream.
I'd also like to be able to do network management, so that a network
admin can approve/deny/revoke access easily via a web ui as well. I'm thinking of using the flag sets in synchronet each representing access
to a different network... so a sysop can signup once, and request
access to any net carried by the platform.
Tracker1 wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
It's also a protocol directly for feeding... so I can work on client/server closer for a web interface, where qwk or other data interfaces would be more complex.
Tracker1 wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Visual studio code is a programming text editor + more... there's a
plugin that will allow you to "open" a remote directory (over ssh) and edit files in the editor. There's also an integrated terminal that you can run shell commands in... it's been really beneficial for live
editing remote configs.
On 03-20-20 07:46, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Tracker1 <=-
@VIA: VERT/REALITY
Tracker1 wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
It's also a protocol directly for feeding... so I can work on client/server closer for a web interface, where qwk or other data interfaces would be more complex.
If there were some way to sync newscan pointers between local access,
QWK and NNTP, NNTP would rock for me.
Visual studio code is a programming text editor + more... there's a
plugin that will allow you to "open" a remote directory (over ssh) and
edit files in the editor. There's also an integrated terminal that you
can run shell commands in... it's been really beneficial for live
editing remote configs.
Ahh OK. While I could do the same with WinSCP, I normally prefer to edit on the system over SSH. :) I presume VSCode knows when it's working on a non Windows system and uses the appropriate EOL convention for Linux in this instance?
Sorry... I'll have the nntp port(s) open. Not sure if there is a
terminal based user editor outside the standard telnet interface, which
you could access over an ssh tunnel, or after connected via ssh.
Mainly thinking in terms of creating BBS user accounts while working on
a web interface for this.
Yes, uedit is available. I use it on my system over SSH. :)
Got it, will probably get this setup over the weekend... cancelled my camping trip.
Cool. I'll be out for a run tomorrow, otherwise home all day. :)
I do that for my QWK nets. QWK downlinks can request access to one or more of
the nets I provide on QWK. You will need to liase with me as to how you want to take a feed from me. I use different hubs for QWK and FTN. QWK is done via Synchronet, FTN from Mystic. But if I start feeding with NNTP, I'll be using Synchronet for that. :)
It's also a protocol directly for feeding... so I can work on
client/server closer for a web interface, where qwk or other data interfaces would be more complex.
If there were some way to sync newscan pointers between local access,
QWK and NNTP, NNTP would rock for me.
Visual studio code is a programming text editor + more... there's a
plugin that will allow you to "open" a remote directory (over ssh) and
edit files in the editor. There's also an integrated terminal that you
can run shell commands in... it's been really beneficial for live
editing remote configs.
Back when people hand-coded web sites, Allaire's Homesite did something similar where you could define a project as a remote directory or directories, make local changes and push all of the changed files to the project. I loved Homesite for that and the WYSIWYG editor. Then, Macromedia bought them and took the WYSIWYG out to drive customers to DreamWeaver,
which cost at least twice as much.
On 03-26-20 04:16, Tracker1 wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Ahh OK. While I could do the same with WinSCP, I normally prefer to edit on the system over SSH. :) I presume VSCode knows when it's working on a non Windows system and uses the appropriate EOL convention for Linux in this instance?
It is editing over SSH... as to line endings, there's a user setting
for this, I set mine to \n, you can also do a "workspace" or directory setting, I have a .vscode directory with a settings.json file on my
/sbbs directory which is what I open remotely... this is set to CP437
and \n ... though you can set otherwise.
Yes, uedit is available. I use it on my system over SSH. :)
Cool, I've always just used the telnet sysop editor... as long as it
can create an account with the appropriate permissions, etc. Thinking
of a flag per network, so in the future as networks are added, a BBS
sysop could apply for an account, and a network admin can allow/deny/revoke access.
Got it, will probably get this setup over the weekend... cancelled my camping trip.
Cool. I'll be out for a run tomorrow, otherwise home all day. :)
Didn't get a chance... but definitely this coming weekend.
On 03-26-20 04:20, Tracker1 wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Very cool... hoping to make the hub about as self-service as possible
in terms of supporting it... each network feed, unless push from
another source, would need to be setup more manually though of course.
Will also likely put in a little logic to make the naming a bit more usenet consistet (as mentioned previously), and probably also do a bit
to prevent/limit cross-posting, which nntp allows, but probably don't
want in BBS context.
I'm on about 20 different nets and they can all be accessed through the nntp interface. It just works.
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