Im trying to get away from drinking 2-4 cans a day and trying to drink 1 can of soda at most a day and I think I am getting withdrawl messages from my body.
Ugh :P
Im trying to get away from drinking 2-4 cans a day and trying to drink 1 can of soda at most a day and I think I am getting withdrawl messages from my body.
Im trying to get away from drinking 2-4 cans a day and trying to drink 1 can of soda at most a day and I think I am getting withdrawl messages from my body.
Ugh :P
The only other time in recent memory would be doing shots and I forget to tell the bartender, "no carbinated liquids". I still weigh too much but I'm sure my body is better for not putting that stuff in it.
The only other time in recent memory would be doing shots and I forget
to tell the bartender, "no carbinated liquids". I still weigh too much
but I'm sure my body is better for not putting that stuff in it.
Yeah, you know alcohol is a poison to the body. probably worse for you that water with bubbles.
Yeah, you know alcohol is a poison to the body. probably worse for you that water with bubbles.
It's like when people go to McDonalds, order a double quarter pounder, large fry, and a diet coke.
The impact of Fructose in the body is about the same as alcohol (in
terms of what people consume in say a beer vs regular cola. Fructose
can only be metabolized by the liver and tends to have some disruptive influences. In terms of whole, fiberous fruit and berries, it isn't so bad, but many americans are getting 4-8 times the upper recommended
limits daily. A single 12oz can of cola has as much sugar as an adult
make should have in a day.
The impact of Fructose in the body is about the same as alcohol (in
terms of what people consume in say a beer vs regular cola. Fructose
can only be metabolized by the liver and tends to have some disruptive influences. In terms of whole, fiberous fruit and berries, it isn't so bad, but many americans are getting 4-8 times the upper recommended
limits daily. A single 12oz can of cola has as much sugar as an adult
make should have in a day.
so are people having liver failure and other liver issues from fructose like they have with alcohol? i really cant see that.
heart disease than anything else.
Even the original and several times debunked studies on cholesterol miscounted the various groups. Trans-fats were included with animal
fats. Ice cream and chocolate weren't counted with sugar. Even then
sugar and animal fats were roughly the same in those studies.
Give "Lies My Doctor Told Me", "Big Fat Surprise" and "Wheat Belly" a read/listen for starters.
Give "Lies My Doctor Told Me", "Big Fat Surprise" and "Wheat
Belly" a read/listen for starters.
well maybe we should stop eating like cattle so we dont end up with
so many health issues. i dont have any health problems other than
i'm fat. my tests are perfect each time i go. my ex who had
diabetes and all kinds of shit was mad at me. when i want to drop
weight i just exercise and stop eating like a pig.
On 03-26-20 04:33, Tracker1 wrote to MRO <=-
That said, my metabolism is very borked, and it's really hard for me to lose weight... Staying very low carb, eating fewer meals and adding in some extended fasting go a long way though... my glucose can stay
normalized with diet alone, but losing weight is much harder... I seem
to kick into gluconeogenesis very easy, and my resting glucose will
remain elevated even after fasting several days, which reduces
autophagy and fat burning. It takes a couple bad meals to kick me out, and takes almost 2 months to get back into ketosis on a keto diet
alone, and/or about a 5-day fast to kick back over into mostly fat
burning... but I've been hospitalized for DKA before, so keep a close
eye on it. In general, I wish I knew half of what I know now when I
was 19-20 or so.
burning... but I've been hospitalized for DKA before, so keep a close
eye on it. In general, I wish I knew half of what I know now when I
was 19-20 or so.
Knowledge helps, that's for sure. The earlier you find out your unique issues,
the better you're able to manage them. And DKA, I'm not familiar with that ne.
Vk3jed wrote to Tracker1 <=-
The covid-19 crisis will require a bit more creativity to maintain
those conditions, but I do have a plan to manage that. :)
On 03-27-20 09:33, Tracker1 wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Diabetic KetoAcidosis, effectively either because of beta cell damage,
or a dysfunctional metabolism, the body doesn't signal insulin release
to keep ketone generation in check. For type-1 it's more common. For type-2 rare, but can happen, and often as a side effect/result of a
viral infection.
On 03-27-20 08:18, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
@VIA: VERT/REALITY
Vk3jed wrote to Tracker1 <=-
The covid-19 crisis will require a bit more creativity to maintain
those conditions, but I do have a plan to manage that. :)
I subscribe to a handful of email newsletters, and 3 of them have ideas for at-home, body weight workout plans. Get those burpees going!
Interesting, everyone seems to be different. I don't have any issues maintaining weight, provided I have a certain minimum level of physical activity. I don't know what that level is, but some level of sport or lots _very_ long walks are needed to cross that threshold. Once I'm above that threshold, it's more a case of what my composition is, but my weight hardly alters - appetite and activity seem to track very well. When I was in my ea 30s, I did put on a bit of (unhealthy) weight, but from 35, I levelled off, I got back into sport, and in more recent years, I've lost fat and gained
Ouch. I've never tried keto, something tells me it's not the right diet for makeup. Carbs with a lot of protein and some good fats (like nuts) seem fin for me, and my fat burining is primarily the "afterburn" effect caused by hi intensity workouts - something that is unavoidable for a sprinter, it's an
keto never works in the long run. people dont stick with it and it's
really a strip diet. it's never going to work in the long run. my girlfriend went through all this and saw many doctors and specialists.
the extra pounds I wanted, quite nicely in the first few weeks. Along the w I modifiied the keto (too much bacon, and cheese in my opinion) to be basica a plant-based plan. I continued to shed pounds. Meanwhile, some physical ailments I was experiencing completely disappeared. I have more energy and stamina than I had when I ate conventional "packaged" foods and to much suga
On 03-28-20 09:56, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
i come from a family of fat people. they would never accept responsibility for their weight problems. it was always genetics or metabolism. the fact is, 99% of fat people are fat because they take in more calories than they burn off.
keto never works in the long run. people dont stick with it and it's really a strip diet. it's never going to work in the long run. my girlfriend went through all this and saw many doctors and specialists.
i'm fat but i'm really active. i'm fat because i dont burn off the calories i took in. if i wanted to lose this weight again, i'd have to
do some walking in high heat outside. just walking miles at work
doesnt cut it. ---
i'm fat but i'm really active. i'm fat because i dont burn off the calories i took in. if i wanted to lose this weight again, i'd have to do some walking in high heat outside. just walking miles at work doesnt cut it. ---
And you might need to look at the calories you're taking in. :)
There are some genetic factors that will cause variation, but you are correct,
weight management is a simple equation of calories in vs calories out. And 80+% of that equation actually comes from the calories in side. So first step
to managing weight is looking at nutrition and making better choices there. A
lot of processed food contains hidden sugar and other calorie dense ingredients. And drinks like soda and fruit juice are a real calorie trap. Substituting water will make a huge difference there.
On 03-29-20 01:27, Tracker1 wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Calories can be considered king, but hormones are queen in terms of
what you take in and use. The human body is not a literal furnace and doesn't perfectly use all types of calories... which is why Fiber is generally subtracted, even though it has 4 calories per gram, like most
When I was consuming more carbs, I was unable to lose weight on
1300-1500 calories a day (I was needing about 200 units of insulin a
day to keep glucose in check)... going low carb, I lost weight at 2800 calories a day. The difference is hormones.
That's not to say you cannot overeat on a low carb diet, you absolutely can, but acting like it's only calories is pure ignorance. For that matter, if you ever want to make someone fat, add insulin.
what you felt was what all people feel when losing weight. it wasnt
keto doing it.
MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
i'm fat but i'm really active. i'm fat because i dont burn off the calories i took in. if i wanted to lose this weight again, i'd have to do some walking in high heat outside. just walking miles at work doesnt cut it. ---
And you might need to look at the calories you're taking in. :)
i'm not wondering why i'm fat. it's because i got fat and then
now i'm breaking even.
i work 2 jobs so i just work and sleep, so dont want to work out.
Re: Re: Caffine headaches
By: Vk3jed to MRO on Sun Mar 29 2020 02:29 pm
i'm fat but i'm really active. i'm fat because i dont burn off the calories i took in. if i wanted to lose this weight again, i'd have do some walking in high heat outside. just walking miles at work doesnt cut it. ---
And you might need to look at the calories you're taking in. :)
i'm not wondering why i'm fat. it's because i got fat and then now i'm break even.
i work 2 jobs so i just work and sleep, so dont want to work out.
generally subtracted, even though it has 4 calories per gram, like most carbs, the body is only able to utilize a little based on your gut flora and a minimal fermentation. This is different for other animals (ruminants) that have slow, multi-chamber stomachs for fermentation.
When I was consuming more carbs, I was unable to lose weight on
1300-1500 calories a day (I was needing about 200 units of insulin a day
to keep glucose in check)... going low carb, I lost weight at 2800
calories a day. The difference is hormones.
That's not to say you cannot overeat on a low carb diet, you absolutely can, but acting like it's only calories is pure ignorance. For that
Hi Mro,
On <Sun, 28 Mar 20>, you wrote me:
what you felt was what all people feel when losing weight. it wasnt
keto doing it.
Looking into the matter, the shedding of pounds is initially due to loss of water weight and due to the intake of less calories. It was way too easy to eat a lot of bread and cereal for example. I don't think I ever entered ketosis. To limit cals to under 50grams/day was quite impossible for me. Bu along the way, I learned to eat better food.
So.. do you have an experience in this matter?
i work 2 jobs so i just work and sleep, so dont want to work out.
If you don't want to work out, then you have to adjust other behaviors, such as caloric intake and types of food due to their high calorie content. If you can do it, smaller snacks through the day versus 2 or 3 big meal helps even out calorie intake. I wokred with someone who was doing Nutri-system, and he achieved more with 6 smaller meals / snacks a day than paying for their food.
Hi Mro,
On <Sun, 28 Mar 20>, you wrote me:
M> what you felt was what all people feel when losing weight. it wasnt
M> keto doing it.
Looking into the matter, the shedding of pounds is initially due to loss of water weight and due to the intake of less calories. It was way too easy to eat a lot of bread and cereal for example. I don't think I ever entered ketosis. To limit cals to under 50grams/day was quite impossible for me. But along the way, I learned to eat better food.
So.. do you have an experience in this matter?
If you don't want to work out, then you have to adjust other behaviors, such as caloric intake and types of food due to their high calorie content. If you can do it, smaller snacks through the day versus 2 or 3 big meal helps even out calorie intake. I wokred with someone who was doing Nutri-system, and he achieved more with 6 smaller meals / snacks a day than paying for their food.
generally subtracted, even though it has 4 calories per gram, like most carbs, the body is only able to utilize a little based on your gut flora and a minimal fermentation. This is different for other animals (ruminants) that have slow, multi-chamber stomachs for fermentation.
When I was consuming more carbs, I was unable to lose weight on
1300-1500 calories a day (I was needing about 200 units of insulin a day
to keep glucose in check)... going low carb, I lost weight at 2800
calories a day. The difference is hormones.
That's not to say you cannot overeat on a low carb diet, you absolutely can, but acting like it's only calories is pure ignorance. For that
call me ignorant, but if you take in more than you burn off, you get fat.
you can get all technical about it, but that's how it works.
On 3/29/2020 6:24 AM, August Abolins wrote:
Hi Mro,
On <Sun, 28 Mar 20>, you wrote me:
M> what you felt was what all people feel when losing weight. it wasnt
M> keto doing it.
Looking into the matter, the shedding of pounds is initially due to loss o water weight and due to the intake of less calories. It was way too easy eat a lot of bread and cereal for example. I don't think I ever entered ketosis. To limit cals to under 50grams/day was quite impossible for me. along the way, I learned to eat better food.
So.. do you have an experience in this matter?
Personally, I'm a proponent of eating less processed as much as reasonable... and avoiding the most problematic foods, modern wheat,
seed oils and refined sugars.
Most people drastically exceed the daily recommended intakes for sugar (around 38g for an adult male), also, the original suggestion for grains
was 3-4 servings a day, not the 11 that made it into the food piramid
after corporate interests. Many eat a lot more sweet fruits than is pragmatic as well.
Where more dramatic efforts come in with regards to keto, carnivore and
more fasting is a lot of times to overcome metabolic or other disorders
that get worse over time. Keto is absolutely the best option for those
that are diabetic on insulin. Exogenous insulin tends to make the issue worse, rather than better. Keto allows for insulin control for most t2d without the shots.
Meal frequency is another issue... most people get by just fine with 1-2 meals a day and not snacking. Unless you're a serious weight trainer or athlete with less than 5% body fat, you don't really need more than
that... Meal timing around workouts can help.
--
Michael J. Ryan
tracker1 +o Roughneck BBS
This is not for everyone but I just lost 20 lbs in the last two months by stopping all alcohol and switching to a plant based diet. I am 65 years old with a congenital cardiac issue i.e. left bundle branch block, and my cardiologist told me that some simple life style changes would decrease progression of athelerosclerosis and be preventative for heart attack and stroke. I was a 2 beer per day person and ate pretty reasonably yet the Standard American Diet (SAD) is lacking. There are calories in alcohol yet it's mostly how minimal amounts of alcohol just slow down your liver enzymes and your metabolism as well. But I will say that the increased fiber in my diet leaves me feeling satiated and not having to snack constantly. I can pretty much leave it without punishing myself. Just "food for thought" :Oi work 2 jobs so i just work and sleep, so dont want to work out.
If you don't want to work out, then you have to adjust other
behaviors, such as caloric intake and types of food due to their high
calorie content. If you can do it, smaller snacks through the day
versus 2 or 3 big meal helps even out calorie intake. I wokred with
someone who was doing Nutri-system, and he achieved more with 6
smaller meals / snacks a day than paying for their food.
Re: Re: Caffine headaches
By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Mar 29 2020 02:25 pm
i work 2 jobs so i just work and sleep, so dont want to work out.
This is not for everyone but I just lost 20 lbs in the last two months by stopping all alcohol and switching to a plant based diet. I am 65 years old with a congenital cardiac issue i.e. left bundle branch block, and my cardiologist told me that some simple life style changes would decrease progression of athelerosclerosis and be preventative for heart attack and stroke. I was a 2 beer per day person and ate pretty reasonably yet the Standard American Diet (SAD) is lacking. There are calories in alcohol yet i mostly how minimal amounts of alcohol just slow down your liver enzymes and your metabolism as well. But I will say that the increased fiber in my diet leaves me feeling satiated and not having to snack constantly. I can pretty much leave it without punishing myself. Just "food for thought" :OIf you don't want to work out, then you have to adjust other
behaviors, such as caloric intake and types of food due to their high
calorie content. If you can do it, smaller snacks through the day
versus 2 or 3 big meal helps even out calorie intake. I wokred with
someone who was doing Nutri-system, and he achieved more with 6
smaller meals / snacks a day than paying for their food.
i'm glad you're doing better. even if it's just 2 drinks a day, that is still something that would affect your body every single day.When weather permits, my wife and I go out and hike. It's been too rainy and cold still on Cape Cod. I am riding a stationary bike for about 45 minutes a day, usually two days on and one day off. I have hit a sticking point on the weight loss yet this is breaking that barrier.
can you also walk a half hour to and hour a day? that might help.
can you also walk a half hour to and hour a day? that might help.
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