On 02-19-20 11:53, Nightfox wrote to All <=-
I also tried running Telemate and Telix, my two favorte communication programs for DOS back in the day. Telemate seems to work fairly well, though I saw some odd behavior with Telix. With certain menus on my
BBS, Telix seemed to be sending empty data, causing my BBS to re-draw
the menu and sometimes to display the error "Unrecognized command ()",
and sometimes the display just got very wonky. Enabling & disabling
the status bar seems to make a difference, too - Depending on whether
the status bar is showing or not, I had problems on different menus on
my BBS. Has anyone set up Telix in DOSBox?
I hadn't used DOSBox much at all, and yesterday I decided to install DOSBox on my main desktop PC (running Windows 10 64-bit) to try running some old DOS games & apps. I am surprised how easy it is to set up DOSBox, and that it does Sound Blaster emulation and is basically ready to go right after it's installed. I have a directory on my HDD set aside now for the DOSBox C drive, and I copied some games there, which ran without a problem, with sound and mouse support working. I'm really surprised how easy it was to get set up, and I found DOSBox can scale the window size up so that it's not a tiny window on my modern PC monitor.
I also tried running Telemate and Telix, my two favorte communication programs for DOS back in the day. Telemate seems to work fairly well, though I saw some odd behavior with Telix. With certain menus on my BBS, Telix seemed to be sending empty data, causing my BBS to re-draw the menu and sometimes to display the error "Unrecognized command ()", and sometimes the display just got very wonky. Enabling & disabling the status bar seems to make a difference, too - Depending on whether the status bar is showing or not, I had problems on different menus on my BBS. Has anyone set up Telix in DOSBox?
Nightfox
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Nightfox wrote to All <=-
ran without a problem, with sound and mouse support working. I'm
really surprised how easy it was to get set up, and I found DOSBox can scale the window size up so that it's not a tiny window on my modern PC monitor.
I also tried running Telemate and Telix, my two favorte communication programs for DOS back in the day. Telemate seems to work fairly well, though I saw some odd behavior with Telix.
I started with Telix too then switched over to Terminate. That one rocked!
The scaling and font smoothing is what I like about DOSBOX. I'm running Windows 10 64-bit on a widescreen monitor, and with DOSBOX and a few tweaks, DOS windows fill the whole screen.
I have my offline reader environment, essentially unchanged since 1993, running in DOSBOX.
I gave up on trying to get terminal programs to work inside of DOSBOX, I'll usually use SyncTerm if I'm transferring files or Netrunner to log in and read.
Hopefully someone has some clues as to how to get Telix running inside of it, I'd love to get a completely DOS BBS environment working.
I'd think filling a widescreen monitor would mean there's some horizontal stretching going on? I'd prefer to keep the correct aspect ratio.
I hadn't used DOSBox much at all, and yesterday I decided to install DOSBox on my main desktop PC (running Windows 10 64-bit) to try running some old DOS games & apps. I am surprised how easy it is to set up DOSBox, and that it does Sound Blaster emulation and is basically ready
to go right after it's installed. I have a directory on my HDD set
aside now for the DOSBox C drive, and I copied some games there, which
ran without a problem, with sound and mouse support working. I'm
really surprised how easy it was to get set up, and I found DOSBox can scale the window size up so that it's not a tiny window on my modern PC monitor.
I am a sysop of 1st choice core and I would very muck like to intall DOSBox on my Windows 10 64-bit and I am hoping you might help me to insatll it for some old DOS games & apps. I did try to install it a few years back but could quite understand how to set it up correctly, any chance of posting setp
to how do this.
Vk3jed wrote to Nightfox <=-
On 02-19-20 11:53, Nightfox wrote to All <=-
I also tried running Telemate and Telix, my two favorte communication programs for DOS back in the day. Telemate seems to work fairly well, though I saw some odd behavior with Telix. With certain menus on my
BBS, Telix seemed to be sending empty data, causing my BBS to re-draw
the menu and sometimes to display the error "Unrecognized command ()",
and sometimes the display just got very wonky. Enabling & disabling
the status bar seems to make a difference, too - Depending on whether
the status bar is showing or not, I had problems on different menus on
my BBS. Has anyone set up Telix in DOSBox?
I wonder if this is related to the issues I had with Telix in DOSBox.
FOr me everything worked except for uploads. When uploading a .REP,
the BBS complained that it wasn't a valid packet. This was definitely
the terminal side, because the same issue happened with both Synchronet and Mystic BBSs, and only when using Telix in DOSBox, whether on a PC
or Android (with Magic DOSBox). Uploading the exact same .REP using a netive method (e.g. FTP or a netive terminal program like SyncTerm) results in a successful upload.
I also tried running Telemate and Telix, my two favorte communication
programs for DOS back in the day. Telemate seems to work fairly well,
though I saw some odd behavior with Telix.
I gave up on trying to get terminal programs to work inside of DOSBOX, I'll usually use SyncTerm if I'm transferring files or Netrunner to log in and read.
Hopefully someone has some clues as to how to get Telix running inside of
it, I'd love to get a completely DOS BBS environment working.
I gave up on trying to get terminal programs to work inside of DOSBOX, I'll usually use SyncTerm if I'm transferring files or Netrunner to log in and read.
Hopefully someone has some clues as to how to get Telix running inside of it, I'd love to get a completely DOS BBS environment working.
On 2/20/20 7:42 AM, poindexter FORTRAN wrote:
I also tried running Telemate and Telix, my two favorte communication
programs for DOS back in the day. Telemate seems to work fairly well,
though I saw some odd behavior with Telix.
I gave up on trying to get terminal programs to work inside of DOSBOX, I'll usually use SyncTerm if I'm transferring files or Netrunner to log in and read.
Hopefully someone has some clues as to how to get Telix running inside of it, I'd love to get a completely DOS BBS environment working.
IIRC, it was pretty easy, just need to configure COM1 to "VIRTUAL" or "TELNET"... then you setup your terminal to ATDTsomeaddress.com ...
also, you should clear out the modem init for the terminal program.
--
Michael J. Ryan
tracker1 +o Roughneck BBS
Tracker1 wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
On 2/20/20 7:42 AM, poindexter FORTRAN wrote:
I also tried running Telemate and Telix, my two favorte communication
programs for DOS back in the day. Telemate seems to work fairly well,
though I saw some odd behavior with Telix.
I gave up on trying to get terminal programs to work inside of DOSBOX, I'll usually use SyncTerm if I'm transferring files or Netrunner to log in and read.
Hopefully someone has some clues as to how to get Telix running inside of it, I'd love to get a completely DOS BBS environment working.
IIRC, it was pretty easy, just need to configure COM1 to
"VIRTUAL" or "TELNET"... then you setup your terminal to ATDTsomeaddress.com ... also, you should clear out the modem init
for the terminal program.
Hopefully someone has some clues as to how to get Telix running inside
of it, I'd love to get a completely DOS BBS environment working.
IIRC, it was pretty easy, just need to configure COM1 to "VIRTUAL" or "TELNET"... then you setup your terminal to ATDTsomeaddress.com ...
also, you should clear out the modem init for the terminal program.
Hopefully someone has some clues as to how to get Telix running inside
of it, I'd love to get a completely DOS BBS environment working.
it's pretty easy. you can even use that termbox that electro made.
so terminate should work too then.
On 02-20-20 14:30, Thumper wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I was messing around with Bluewave in DosBox and when uploading .REP packets I got the same thing. Not a valid packet. Curious what is
causing it.
On 02-20-20 09:36, Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Telemate actually seems to work without any problems. I ended up using Telemate pretty much all the time in the 90s, so perhaps that's what
I'd use inside of DOSBox.
Tracker1 wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
IIRC, it was pretty easy, just need to configure COM1 to "VIRTUAL" or "TELNET"... then you setup your terminal to ATDTsomeaddress.com ...
also, you should clear out the modem init for the terminal program.
Tracker1 wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
IIRC, it was pretty easy, just need to configure COM1 to "VIRTUAL" or "TELNET"... then you setup your terminal to ATDTsomeaddress.com ... also, you should clear out the modem init for the terminal program.
I should clarify, I got Telix working and dialing, it was transfers that didn't work.
It was wonderful hearing that Telix connect sound again. BBSing for me used to be about gang-dialing a handful of BBSes, getting busies, and connecting to the first open BBS. On weekend nights, it could take some time. When you heard that doot doot DOOT doot doot DOOT doot doot DOOT, you got excited after what felt like waiting forever.
That was part of the inspiration for me starting a BBS - no more busy signals!
... Am I any closer to finding what I'm looking for?
What terminal program were you using? Telix or Telemate?
The problem has something to do with DOSBox, because if you upload the same .REP using FTP, SyncTerm, NetRubber, etc, it will work fine.
Telemate actually seems to work without any problems. I ended up
using Telemate pretty much all the time in the 90s, so perhaps
that's what I'd use inside of DOSBox.
Including uploads? That's the only issue I had with Telix. Guess I'll have to test with Telemate, since there's a 100% reproducible issue to test with.
All you have to do is attempt to upload a .REP to your BBS.
It was wonderful hearing that Telix connect sound again. BBSing for me
years back but could quite understand how to set it up correctly, any chance of posting setp
to how do this.
It's just a matter of running the setup program,
and then editing the DOSBox
configuration to your liking. In Windows, the DOSBox configuration file is >located in a path in your user's AppData directory. If you open up a Windows >Explorer window, in the address bar, type rqr and press Enter. It should >then bring you to your AppData\Roaming directory. Go up one directory, and >then go into DOSBox\Local (so you should be in your AppData\Local\DOSBox >directory). Then open up the dosbox .conf file there and edit it to your >liking.
One thing I did when setting up DOSBox is to make a directory to use as the C >drive in DOSBox. On my machine, I created D:\DOS_C. Then, in my DOSBox .conf >file, at the bottom there is an [autoexec] section, where you can put commands >for it to use in autoexec.bat. I have it automatically mount its C drive and >change to C. In my [autoexec] section in the .conf file, I have theollowing:
I have ie
[autoexec]
# Lines in this section will be run at startup.
# You can put your MOUNT lines here.
mount C C:\DOS_C
C:
mount C D:\DOS_C (same as this)
C: (same as this)
but mine could be wrong as I unsure what the right way to do it
ie on my computer only have C drive
which you have mount C (D):\DOS_C
and I have created DOS_C on my C drive
do I have to have mount C C:\DOS_C c: in autoexc.cnf in windows system32 as ell
as if I go into Dosbox via wibdow 10 windows 10 menu it came up with z:\ if I type cd c:\ ity say it not mounted
so not doing samething wrong
any thought what it might be.
if I go into dosbox it self and manual type MOUNT c c:\dos_c
then c is mounted
and when you suggested old dos games. is bre included or older one's
On 02-21-20 11:06, Thumper wrote to Vk3jed <=-
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What terminal program were you using? Telix or Telemate?
The problem has something to do with DOSBox, because if you upload the same .REP using FTP, SyncTerm, NetRubber, etc, it will work fine.
Hmmm..... just tried it again and moved the .REP packet to my Syncterm
out folder and uploaded. Synchronet says it unpacked it but it doesn't show up in the forum..... Interesting.....
On 02-21-20 12:56, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
All you have to do is attempt to upload a .REP to your BBS.
I haven't tried doing any uploads or downloads with those in DOSBox
yet.
On 02-21-20 13:03, Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
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Re: Re: DOSBox
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Tracker1 on Fri Feb 21 2020 06:47 am
It was wonderful hearing that Telix connect sound again. BBSing for me
Telix connect sound? When using Telix in DOSBox recently, it hasn't
been making any sound for me. I don't remember it making any connect sound when I used it in the 90s either.
Yes, if you only have a C drive on your computer,
then you would need
to use C. Also you would need to make sure to create the directory C:\DOS_C, so ensure that directory exists. If it's not mounted,
perhaps C:\DOS_C does not exist?
Also, in DOS, simply doing "cd C:\" will not actually change to the C drive. That just changes the current directory on that drive for next time. To actually change to the C drive, you would just do C:
What terminal program were you using? Telix or Telemate?
The problem has something to do with DOSBox, because if you upload the same .REP using FTP, SyncTerm, NetRubber, etc, it will work fine.
Hmmm..... just tried it again and moved the .REP packet to my Syncterm out folder and uploaded. Synchronet says it unpacked it but it doesn't show up in the forum..... Interesting.....
Now another question per dosbox and setting up with a bbs software if you don't mind,
so I can under stand how it works, like if I am in dosbox and I run bre reset it works fine,
but if I do out side of dosbox in c:\ drive on computer and run bre reset it does the
doesn't work thing per 64 bit, I would have thought the c:\ directory would be mounted as well or
is that done same there way, but I probably got that wrong so to my question to how to set it up with a bbs software for bre to work.
and in batch file to run bre c:
cd \bre
bre
etc
or do I have to put c:\dos_c in the batch same were as well, seems to work either way but just checking
I'm not quite sure what you're asking. I haven't tried running BBS software in DOSBox though. I think they should be able to run, but I'm not sure how they would communicate with the internet.
What I was tring to ask was that I have sbbs (1st Choice Core) bbs software on a windows 10 4 bit and I like to setup the dos game on
that bbs via dosbox to how to set thing up to do that ie people
telnet on to bbs and play 16/32 bit game with the use of dosbox,
or have I miss understood the whole thing to what the dosbox is
used for
Sneaky wrote to Nightfox <=-
What I was tring to ask was that I have sbbs (1st Choice Core) bbs
software on a windows 10 4 bit and I like to setup the dos game on
that bbs via dosbox to how to set thing up to do that ie people
telnet on to bbs and play 16/32 bit game with the use of dosbox,
or have I miss understood the whole thing to what the dosbox is
used for
I'm not quite sure what you're asking. I haven't tried running BBS software DOSBox though. I think they should be able to run, but I'm not sure how the would communicate with the internet.
What I was tring to ask was that I have sbbs (1st Choice Core) bbs
software on a windows 10 4 bit and I like to setup the dos game on
that bbs via dosbox to how to set thing up to do that ie people
telnet on to bbs and play 16/32 bit game with the use of dosbox,
or have I miss understood the whole thing to what the dosbox is
used for
Ah.. That has been brought up on Dove-Net before, and I don't think anyone been successful at getting DOS doors successfully set up with Synchronet in 64-bit Windows. From what I remember, I think there's an issue getting the port handle or FOSSIL driver handle passed to the DOS door through DOSBox. getting DOS doors to work, your best bet is probably to run Synchronet in a
Ah.. That has been brought up on Dove-Net before, and I don't think anyone has been successful at getting DOS doors successfully set up
with Synchronet in a 64-bit Windows. From what I remember, I think there's an issue getting the COM port handle or FOSSIL driver handle passed to the DOS door through DOSBox. For getting DOS doors to work, your best bet is probably to run Synchronet in a 32-bit Windows, or in Linux. I know DOS doors work with Synchronet in Linux, and I think
it's through DOSBox or dosemu in Linux (I'm sure someone can correct me
if I'm wrong). I haven't yet set up DOS doors in Linux, as I run my
BBS in Windows 32-bit.
or have I miss understood the whole thing to what the dosbox is
used for
I don't think that's possible; DOSBOX acts like a walled garden from my understanding. There's not a lot of communication that I see between
the host OS and DOSBOX.
I'm sure others will suggest running a 32-bit OS natively, running a 32-bit OS in a virtual machine, or there's a new project called nxvdm
(I think) that would allow you to run 16-bot DOS apps in a 64-bit OS.
If nxvdm works out, it'd be the simplest in the long run, allowing more memory for the BBS and not requiring a virtual machine.
software on a windows 10 4 bit and I like to setup the dos game on
that bbs via dosbox to how to set thing up to do that ie people
telnet on to bbs and play 16/32 bit game with the use of dosbox,
or have I miss understood the whole thing to what the dosbox is
used for
I don't think that's possible; DOSBOX acts like a walled garden from my understanding. There's not a lot of communication that I see between the host OS and DOSBOX.
Re: Re: DOSBox
By: Sneaky to Nightfox on Sun Feb 23 2020 04:50 pm
What I was tring to ask was that I have sbbs (1st Choice Core) bbs software on a windows 10 4 bit and I like to setup the dos game on
that bbs via dosbox to how to set thing up to do that ie people
telnet on to bbs and play 16/32 bit game with the use of dosbox,
or have I miss understood the whole thing to what the dosbox is
used for
Ah.. That has been brought up on Dove-Net before, and I don't think anyone OSSIL driver handle passed to the DOS door through DOSBox. For getting DOS osemu in Linux (I'm sure someone can correct me if I'm wrong). I haven't ye
Nightfox
Re: Re: DOSBox
By: Nightfox to Sneaky on Sat Feb 22 2020 09:51 pm
Re: Re: DOSBox
By: Sneaky to Nightfox on Sun Feb 23 2020 04:50 pm
What I was tring to ask was that I have sbbs (1st Choice Core) bbs software on a windows 10 4 bit and I like to setup the dos game on that bbs via dosbox to how to set thing up to do that ie people telnet on to bbs and play 16/32 bit game with the use of dosbox,
or have I miss understood the whole thing to what the dosbox is
used for
Ah.. That has been brought up on Dove-Net before, and I don't think anyo OSSIL driver handle passed to the DOS door through DOSBox. For getting D osemu in Linux (I'm sure someone can correct me if I'm wrong). I haven't
Nightfox
Other than creating a virtual serial port to relay information through, I'm not sure if there's packet driver support for a virtual net card. There mus be something available since ipx is supported.
On 02-22-20 15:28, Digital Man wrote to Thumper <=-
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Re: Re: DOSBox
By: Thumper to Vk3jed on Fri Feb 21 2020 11:06 am
What terminal program were you using? Telix or Telemate?
The problem has something to do with DOSBox, because if you upload the same .REP using FTP, SyncTerm, NetRubber, etc, it will work fine.
Hmmm..... just tried it again and moved the .REP packet to my Syncterm out folder and uploaded. Synchronet says it unpacked it but it doesn't show up in the forum..... Interesting.....
Sounds like a problem with the .REP packet, not the terminal program.
On 02-22-20 18:40, Nightfox wrote to Sneaky <=-
I'm not quite sure what you're asking. I haven't tried running BBS software in DOSBox though. I think they should be able to run, but I'm not sure how they would communicate with the internet.
I'm not quite sure what you're asking. I haven't tried running BBS
software in DOSBox though. I think they should be able to run, but
I'm not sure how they would communicate with the internet.
Telnet, via the virtual modem feature of DOSBox.
On 02-23-20 17:46, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I figured that much. :P I just wasn't sure of the details of how
DOSBox would be set up to route telnet to a DOS BBS package, which has
no awareness of telnet. With my experience so far using Telix &
Telemate though, I suppose it would appear to have a normal modem and DOSBox would have the virtual modem answer upon receiving a connection.
telnet on to bbs and play 16/32 bit game with the use of dosbox,
or have I miss understood the whole thing to what the dosbox is
used for
you can use 'bbs dosbox' which is dosbox with some additional libs.
you should just run a 32bit windows vm instead.
Okay, thank you for this info and I take your suggestion and run a 32bit windows vm
On 02-22-20 15:28, Digital Man wrote to Thumper <=-
@VIA: VERT
Re: Re: DOSBox
By: Thumper to Vk3jed on Fri Feb 21 2020 11:06 am
What terminal program were you using? Telix or Telemate?
The problem has something to do with DOSBox, because if you upload the same .REP using FTP, SyncTerm, NetRubber, etc, it will work fine.
Hmmm..... just tried it again and moved the .REP packet to my Syncterm ou folder and uploaded. Synchronet says it unpacked it but it doesn't show u in the forum..... Interesting.....
Sounds like a problem with the .REP packet, not the terminal program.
When I've had .REP issues in DOSBox, uploading using Telix inside DOSBox fai but using an app native to the underlying OS to upload the same packet succe every time.
... Dew knot trussed yore spell chequer two fined awl mistakes!
Re: Re: DOSBox
By: Sneaky to MRO on Tue Feb 25 2020 10:06 am
Okay, thank you for this info and I take your suggestion and run a
32bit windows vm
i like you.
On 02-26-20 11:56, Nicknine wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I'm under DosBox using Telemate and I'm facing issues with file
transfer as well. I've tried different protocols and they all fail
partway through. Does anyone else here having similar problems with
DosBox or is it just me? I'm starting to think DosBox modem emulation
may be unstable.
Re: Re: DOSBox
By: MRO to Sneaky on Tue Feb 25 2020 11:33 pm
Re: Re: DOSBox
By: Sneaky to MRO on Tue Feb 25 2020 10:06 am
Okay, thank you for this info and I take your suggestion and run a
32bit windows vm
i like you.
Because he took your suggestion. ;)
Sincerely,
As I said, file transfers, especially uploading from DOSBox seems
to be an issue, regardless of the underlying OS (tested on Windows
and Android here).
Vk3jed wrote to Nicknine <=-
I'm under DosBox using Telemate and I'm facing issues with file
transfer as well. I've tried different protocols and they all fail
partway through. Does anyone else here having similar problems with
DosBox or is it just me? I'm starting to think DosBox modem emulation
may be unstable.
As I said, file transfers, especially uploading from DOSBox seems
to be an issue, regardless of the underlying OS (tested on
Windows and Android here).
Rampage wrote to Vk3jed <=-
As I said, file transfers, especially uploading from DOSBox seems
to be an issue, regardless of the underlying OS (tested on Windows
and Android here).
it almost sounds like it isn't negotiating the binary protocol or
isn't escaping something properly... tcpdump should be able to
capture both sides of the stream and provide the answers...
Re: Re: DOSBox
By: Vk3jed to Nicknine on Thu Feb 27 2020 07:51:00
As I said, file transfers, especially uploading from DOSBox seems
to be an issue, regardless of the underlying OS (tested on Windows
and Android here).
it almost sounds like it isn't negotiating the binary protocol or isn't esca
)\/(ark
Re: Re: DOSBox
By: Jon Justvig to MRO on Wed Feb 26 2020 08:15 am
Because he took your suggestion. ;)
Sincerely,
exactly. but more importanly because most people ask for suggetions but they are not sincere about it. they already know what they want to do and wont sway from that.
Rampage wrote to Vk3jed <=-
As I said, file transfers, especially uploading from DOSBox seems
to be an issue, regardless of the underlying OS (tested on Windows
and Android here).
it almost sounds like it isn't negotiating the binary protocol or
isn't escaping something properly... tcpdump should be able to
capture both sides of the stream and provide the answers...
I think I remember reading somewhere (in the past) that the
problem has to do with "timing" in the transfer protocols (for
example Zmodem). Today's telnet speeds are too much for something
that is expecting dialup speeds, or something like that.
... If it weren't for Edison we'd be using computers by candlelight
it almost sounds like it isn't negotiating the binary protocol or
isn't escaping something properly... tcpdump should be able to
capture both sides of the stream and provide the answers...
I think I remember reading somewhere (in the past) that the
problem has to do with "timing" in the transfer protocols (for
example Zmodem). Today's telnet speeds are too much for something
that is expecting dialup speeds, or something like that.
Nah, this ain't it. I'm using Telemate, it requires you to set baud rate in settings and it properly obeys it. DosBox also caps modem speed at 56 kbit/s. File transfers fail regardless of wha baud I use.
I think I remember reading somewhere (in the past) that the
problem has to do with "timing" in the transfer protocols (for
example Zmodem). Today's telnet speeds are too much for something
that is expecting dialup speeds, or something like that.
Nah, this ain't it. I'm using Telemate, it requires you to set baud rate in settings and it properly obeys it. DosBox also caps modem speed at 56 kbit/s. File transfers fail regardless of wha baud I use.
On 02-27-20 07:14, Rampage wrote to Vk3jed <=-
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Re: Re: DOSBox
By: Vk3jed to Nicknine on Thu Feb 27 2020 07:51:00
As I said, file transfers, especially uploading from DOSBox seems
to be an issue, regardless of the underlying OS (tested on Windows
and Android here).
it almost sounds like it isn't negotiating the binary protocol or isn't escaping something properly... tcpdump should be able to capture both sides of the stream and provide the answers...
On 02-27-20 08:10, Gamgee wrote to Vk3jed <=-
As I said, file transfers, especially uploading from DOSBox seems
to be an issue, regardless of the underlying OS (tested on
Windows and Android here).
Concur. Tested on Linux here.
Nicknine wrote to Gamgee <=-
As I said, file transfers, especially uploading from DOSBox seems
to be an issue, regardless of the underlying OS (tested on Windows
and Android here).
it almost sounds like it isn't negotiating the binary protocol or
isn't escaping something properly... tcpdump should be able to
capture both sides of the stream and provide the answers...
I think I remember reading somewhere (in the past) that the
problem has to do with "timing" in the transfer protocols (for
example Zmodem). Today's telnet speeds are too much for something
that is expecting dialup speeds, or something like that.
Nah, this ain't it. I'm using Telemate, it requires you to set
baud rate in settings and it properly obeys it. DosBox also caps
modem speed at 56 kbit/s. File transfers fail regardless of wha
baud I use.
Rampage wrote to Gamgee <=-
it almost sounds like it isn't negotiating the binary protocol or
isn't escaping something properly... tcpdump should be able to
capture both sides of the stream and provide the answers...
I think I remember reading somewhere (in the past) that the
problem has to do with "timing" in the transfer protocols (for
example Zmodem). Today's telnet speeds are too much for something
that is expecting dialup speeds, or something like that.
possible... i remember joho working on the problem with FD's
protocol engine(s) and i think he loosened the timings and then
stuff started working... but it shouldn't really be a speed
problem other than with protocols that send ACKs back and expect
a response in some time frame... if speed is the problem, it
would seem that faster would be better... hummm... ahhh... but it
could be that it is too fast and results in a zero error like the
old borland runtimes produced with their delay calibration code
(the divide by zero problem)... hummm...
On 02-27-20 20:38, Gamgee wrote to Nicknine <=-
I stumbled on this tonight, haven't tried it but sounds
promising... Anybody want to try it and update us...?
https://sourceforge.net/p/dosbox/patches/287/?limit=25
Nicknine wrote to Gamgee <=-
As I said, file transfers, especially uploading from DOSBox seems
to be an issue, regardless of the underlying OS (tested on Windows and Android here).
it almost sounds like it isn't negotiating the binary protocol or isn't escaping something properly... tcpdump should be able to capture both sides of the stream and provide the answers...
I think I remember reading somewhere (in the past) that the
problem has to do with "timing" in the transfer protocols (for
example Zmodem). Today's telnet speeds are too much for something
that is expecting dialup speeds, or something like that.
Nah, this ain't it. I'm using Telemate, it requires you to set
baud rate in settings and it properly obeys it. DosBox also caps
modem speed at 56 kbit/s. File transfers fail regardless of wha
baud I use.
Okay, thanks for that info. Every piece of the puzzle counts...
I stumbled on this tonight, haven't tried it but sounds
promising... Anybody want to try it and update us...?
https://sourceforge.net/p/dosbox/patches/287/?limit=25
... So easy, a child could do it. Child sold separately.
Nicknine wrote to Gamgee <=-
I stumbled on this tonight, haven't tried it but sounds
promising... Anybody want to try it and update us...?
https://sourceforge.net/p/dosbox/patches/287/?limit=25
Unfortunately, this patch only fixes uploading (where it fixes a
flaw in escape sequence detection). It doesn't help me, downloads
still fail for me with all protocols.
exactly. but more importanly because most people ask for suggetions but they are not sincere about it. they already know what they want to do a wont sway from that.
If someone wants a suggestion, it should be taken into consideration... if t already want to do something, why ask for a suggestion...
On 02-29-20 11:25, Nicknine wrote to Gamgee <=-
Unfortunately, this patch only fixes uploading (where it fixes a flaw
in escape sequence detection). It doesn't help me, downloads still fail for me with all protocols.
aOn 02-29-20 11:25, Nicknine wrote to Gamgee <=-
Unfortunately, this patch only fixes uploading (where it fixes a flaw in escape sequence detection). It doesn't help me, downloads still fail for me with all protocols.
You may have a different issue. I've never had problems with downloads (for
terminal running in DOSBox), only uploads.
... Paradox: We have more degrees but less sense.
On 03-08-20 17:27, Nicknine wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Hmm, what client are you using? I'm using Telemate, downloads may work with other clients.
Hopefully someone has some clues as to how to get Telix running inside of it, I'd love to get a completely DOS BBS environment working.
IIRC, it was pretty easy, just need to configure COM1 to "VIRTUAL" or "TELNET"... then you setup your terminal to ATDTsomeaddress.com ...
also, you should clear out the modem init for the terminal program.
so terminate should work too then.
Thank you for this info, nightfox has said this to me to and with I will
give this Dosbox a miss, and use nightfox and your suggestion and use hyper-v
with a window 32 bit on it.
you can use dosbox to run games or dos programs on your bbs.
On 2/23/20 1:29 PM, MRO wrote:
you can use dosbox to run games or dos programs on your bbs.
You can, but multi-user doors will likely break in interesting ways,
unless you configure them for single-node access.
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with a window 32 bit on it.
If your host is windows, best bet is Hyper-V (requires Windows Pro or higher), and it will generally work better than DosBox and on-par with VMWare, though VMWare workstation is imho slightly easier, but not
worth the price of entry for a Windows desktop use.
Tracker1 wrote to Sneaky <=-
If your host is windows, best bet is Hyper-V (requires Windows Pro or higher), and it will generally work better than DosBox and on-par with VMWare, though VMWare workstation is imho slightly easier, but not
worth the price of entry for a Windows desktop use.
There's also Oracle Virtualbox, free for personal use, but the newer versions don't support 32-bit guest OSes. That seems like a mistake, as most of the uses I've seen for virtualization involve older OSes. But, we're not the paying audience they're looking to.
They don't? I'm using a fairly recent version of VirtualBox (6.1.4) on my Linux machine, and I installed 32-bit Windows 7 in it, and it seems to be working just fine..
On 03-17-20 13:27, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Nightfox <=-
I CAN'T READ.
Virtualbox 5.2 is the last to support 32-bit hosts, not 32-bit guests.
Tracker1 wrote to Sneaky <=-
If your host is windows, best bet is Hyper-V (requires Windows Pro or higher), and it will generally work better than DosBox and on-par with VMWare, though VMWare workstation is imho slightly easier, but not
worth the price of entry for a Windows desktop use.
Is VMWare Player still free? I used that for years. You couldn't snapshot
the VM, but for the most part it worked fine.
There's also Oracle Virtualbox, free for personal use, but the newer
versions don't support 32-bit guest OSes. That seems like a mistake, as most of the uses I've seen for virtualization involve older OSes. But, we're not the paying audience they're looking to.
Tracker1 wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
VMWare Player is still free afaik... I'm always using Windows Pro, so
just use Hyper-V which has worked out better. Currently using WSL2 + Docker (with WSL2) and that's been working very well for me.
VMWare Player is still free afaik... I'm always using Windows Pro, so
just use Hyper-V which has worked out better. Currently using WSL2 + Docker (with WSL2) and that's been working very well for me.
With this new working-from-home phase, my poor old system is starting to
fall short. It's got a core 2 quad CPU at 3ghz, which moves OK, but newer VMWare Workstation versions don't support it.
I've only got 8 GB of RAM, and it uses DDR2 error-correcting RAM, which is impossible to find. Chrome is turning into a RAM hog, using 2 GB with 8-10 windows open. Time to try Firefox again.
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