On 12-23-19 19:50, Sprite wrote to All <=-
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I just wanted to take a minute to thank you guys, again, for letting
me dump some of my whining here. Even though this 'safe space' has
teeth, it's a resource for me that I can't find anywhere else. I've
moved around a lot in my life, and there's not a whole lot of people
that I'm close to where I'm at any more. It's rough for me to deal
with the different stresses that I have without anybody to listen...
I've been a pretty social guy my whole life, and now that I don't have that resource around any more it just builds up and builds up until I
feel like I'm going to have a breakdown sometimes. Having a space like this gives me a little place to let it out (even if some people shit on
me as a result), and that gives me the strength to keep pushing on
against what I'm facing (even if it seems to some of you that I don't, because I'm too busy 'making excuses').
sit and be my vulnerable self. The urges still grab at times, when I'm faced with a hostile response, and a lot of times I find myself
starting to type up a reply with vitriol, but I've gotten to the point where I can usually come back to my senses before the message has gone
out and just delete the reply at this point, at least until I'm able to
This kind of leads me into something else that I wanted to mention to y'all. I make the mistake in flame wars and trolling goon discussions
to let on to the fact that I care about what is said sometimes. I care
a lot, honestly, and it doesn't take much to get under my skin. I've
always been that way. I'd tell you why but maybe that would just be making another excuse. :) The point that I'm trying to get at here is that some of you have already told me from just the very first
forthcoming and open message that I wrote that I'm being judged as somebody who just makes excuses instead of struggling to right my situation and to strive to succeed. Let me be the first to let you
know that this has surely been true in the past. I'd tell you where I
that I'm in here, but I struggle to do so. I don't know how much my effort compares to those around me, whether in similar situations or different, because I'm a pretty isolated person. All I know is that I
keep trying and that the amount of effort that I'm able to put into
these things keeps going up, as my child gets older and more
independent, and as I'm learning new coping mechanisms after a very difficult past. I know that I'm trying, and that I'm trying hard.
So there's my soft underbelly for y'all to pick at there. If anybody has cause to tell me that this is _not_ the right environment to be
You're welcome. I can relate to some of what you're saying. We all face difficult situations throughout life, and learning coping strategies is vital. Sometimes we need a bit of help along the way, and getting help from others, even if it's just a listening ear, is an important strategy.
Another thing worth mentioning is we all have our own issues, though most of us hide them behind masks, which can be costly in itself. I'm no exception, but I won't go into details right now. Suffice to say I have my own battles, but the good news is that in 2020 I have access to supports that I've never had before, which might make some huge differences.
Yeah, 99% of the shit that happens online is not worth it. The other 1%, I prefer to write a considered reply that addresses the issue being discussed, and still ignore the trolls.
There's a lot of things I care about too, but I have a thick skin. Also, sometimes I'm not in the fight for myself, but for others more vulnerable. almost 30 years online has taught me a lot.
We're not you, we can't judge. And it's hard to get a real idea of a person over text. If someone's struggling, but making a genuine attempt to improve their situation, I'll back them all the way. I only get annoyed when it's obvious someone's not listening and taking basic advice that's offered.
I try and connect with others. These days, for all its evils, social media like Facebook does have some useful support groups for just about every inconceivable situation, which at least allows connecting with others in the same boat. And some of them are well run (choose wisely!).
It's probably not the safest, given some of the personalities, but that's your call. :)
On 12-27-19 13:02, Sprite wrote to Vk3jed <=-
vital. Sometimes we need a bit of help along the way, and getting help from others, even if it's just a listening ear, is an important strategy.
It definitely does help me at times. There are people that I have
IRL, but for several reasons they're really not good at the listening role. When I'm completely drained and feeling steamrolled by
everything it oftentimes gives me a bit of a boost to get back on the
I'm glad you've got something to work with. It's hard being in a situation where your normal support structure is missing. I've been in
a few different situations in my life where I had to throw something together ad hoc and it's never quite as good, though it can be a
valuable practice at improvisation in stressful situations. Still, sometimes better to have the tried and true around.
Absolutely. I really wish I would've figured that out in my teens.
I really let some people ruin a lot of my days, back in the day, so to speak.
Yeah I wish my skin was a little thicker, but I think it's due to the way I was raised. I'm just not good at keeping those barbs from
piercing. Oftentimes if I don't reply right away, take a step back and chill for a bit, that initial pain and anger will dissapate, though. Usually to be replaced with more of a compassion and [sometimes] pity
in my view of what's going on. And yeah, like 90% of the time it's not worth replying at all.
It truly is tough to get an idea of most people via text. I wish the people making the judgments could understand that at times. Not that
I'm not guilty of the same.
But yeah I share the same opinion as you about people not listening
and trying basic advice. Pretty sure I've seen some examples of that
on the net here recently, too. ;)
Maybe I'll have to look for some better facebook groups. My area doesn't seem to usually spawn much in the area of local groups, but
hey, maybe some outside of my local area will prove helpful, too. I'd really like something more than just my run groups where I can meet
local people though, too. I'm really sick of the damn isolation around here. It's been difficult since I've cut the more toxic people out of
my life over the past few years.
It's probably not the safest, given some of the personalities, but that's your call. :)
I'll definitely take that under consideration. The last 'dump' that
I wrote I just really needed to get out. It helped me to get it out at the time, and that's what I was looking for. The thing I hadn't
accounted for was the haters afterwards bringing me down awhile later unexpectedly with the replies. So I'll probably end up doing it again
at some point when I need it, but I'll at least be a little more on
guard for that crap. :)
Hope you're having a good one wherever you're at!
It definitely does help me at times. There are people that I have IRL, bu for several reasons they're really not good at the listening role. When I'm completely drained and feeling steamrolled by everything it oftentimes gives a bit of a boost to get back on the horse after I've spouted off somewhere i whatever self-indulgent fashion and then rest for a little bit. I don't kno
Yes, getting it out can help. In person is best, but online is better than nothing. There was a time I had so few options that I literally cast my thoughts to the web. :)
Yes, for me, being in Australia sometimes has its advantages. The new National Disability Insurance Scheme is definitely a help in this regard. :)
You have no control over what others do, but you have full control over how you react. That's where your true power lies. :)
Yeah, stepping back often helps. More often than not, I dump any reply that I may have started. :)
Local may not always be the answer. There are some great groups that cover wider areas too. You just have to find ones that cver your particular situation, and then sus them out to see if they're full of quality people.
Well, mostly OK here. Bit annoyed, I blew a calf at training this morning during some hurdles practice. Had to give a hike a miss today. :(
On 12-28-19 18:44, Sprite wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Yeah I'm still trying to do everything that I can to try to meet more people locally here, but I've always been at a disadvantage in that
area. Still, got a place to go tonight where I'm going to be around a bunch of people that I know, maybe it'll be the night where something happens and a sub-clan gets together and I'll be able to go hang out afterwards with some of them.
Honestly there are so many places in Europe and Scandinavia where I
know I'd rather be than where I'm at right now. I've been there, and
I've seen systems where things are handled more to care for the citizen than to extract every last penny out of them and they seem to work a
lot better than where I'm at right now. 'Course you say that in some
of the places on here and at some point you're going to hear the tried
'n true USA quote come out just like it does on Southpark... 'You
don't like it you can GYIDAWHT.' Which is funny, because I've tried,
and it's not so easy, especially when you can't break through the
income barrier to get out.
Anyway pardon my sideways rant there.
You have no control over what others do, but you have full control over how you react. That's where your true power lies. :)
Indeed. It's taken me a lot of years and finally meditation practice for a long time to be able to put that into a better perspective and
get to the point where I can actually have the reaction time to make
that choice myself. Hell it still doesn't work all of the time, but
I'm getting better at it now, at least. :)
Yeah I guess I need to cast my net a bit wider. I just always try to look for groups that'll be in the local area hoping that I'll kill two birds with one stone and be able to meet local people that I'll have enough in common with to meet at some point, too.
Ouch that sounds pretty bogus. Hurdles, huh? I just went out with
my run group today and did a few miles; not a long run day, it was a
short easy one, but nice to be around some other people at least for awhile here. Haven't really ever tried hurdles. I'm kind of afraid to
after one half-assed attempted in high school left me for a quick
minute with some really sore nads after coming down at the exact wrong moment. I do love running, though. I try to get in every 5-10k that I can, and I'm trying to get up to be able to do a half marathon in the
next year here. Keeping my fingers crossed for that. I'll have to do
a lot better at eating properly around the holidays for that to be a reality, I think. Good lord I've put on a lot of weight over the past couple of months here. The seasonal depression and low light levels
don't help me much on that front, either.
Sorry you had to miss that hike. God I'd love to be out doing stuff like that right now... I hope you didn't blow your calf bad. You say that and I'm automatically thinking that you ruptured the fascia or
tore the muscle itself, like a friend of mine did. Please tell me it
was something not so terrible...
Hope it works out. I went to a social coffee today and made new friends, so I take my advice. :)
Yes, it can be a bit that way here, though nowhere near as bad as the US.
Keep working on it, it does make your life better. :)
No harm in looking for 2 different sets of groups. One to help with your situation, one to connect with locals. :)
"a few miles" is a long run for me. :D
OK, I'm built for speed, not distance. My notmal race distances are 60 - 400 metres. I've also had sone great 400m hurdle runs. It was the 100m hurdles that did me in yesterday. Note that I run 100, not 110m hurdles. That's a perk of getting old. :D
Yeah, I'm lucky in that respect. Our relatively mild winters allow me to be outdoors all year round. I run cross country in winter, usually 1 - 3km, and sometimes run a Parkrun on Saturday mornings (5km). But that's my winter program.
See how it goes. Still rather sore today, but better. :) Also got some serious heat down here. :)
On 12-30-19 05:58, Sprite wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I am envious. There doesn't really seem to be much for that around here. People are kind of all set with their pre-existing groups of friends and relatives around here, and breaking into those lines is a
real chore. Well, I know some people that can do it fairly easily, but
I'm certainly not one of them. I kind of used to be, back in the day,
but that was before some rather significant life events that kind of changed my demeanor a bit. I don't use alcohol as a social lubricant
any more, either, so I suppose that's a factor. Especially around here where alcoholism is one of the most common hobbies.
Yes, it can be a bit that way here, though nowhere near as bad as the US.
Heh. I guess I kind of thought the US had a monopoly on that. ;)
I'll just have to go spend some more time in other countries and on
other continents to get a better feel for them I guess.
Keep working on it, it does make your life better. :)
There is no task more worth it in life than self-improvement, as far
as I'm concerned.
No harm in looking for 2 different sets of groups. One to help with your situation, one to connect with locals. :)
Yeah. I still have yet to do that, but I'm going to open a tab for facebook right now and get a search on some groups ready and leave it
for after work so that I don't forget when I get home today.
"a few miles" is a long run for me. :D
Lately it is for me, too. I had worked up to about half of the
distance that a half marathon would require, which is my goal for the
next spring, but now that the weather is nasty here it's getting rough
to keep up that kind of mileage. It's not just the cold & ice, it's
also the fact that the damn grey weather keeps me from wanting to do _anything_, let alone go outside and run around in it (or even go to
the local YMCA and hit a treadmill-- which is almost as monotonous as hitting the rowing machine that I've got here). I've got seasonal depression pretty bad and my motivation absolutely hits the floor in
the middle of our winters here. I've got to press harder, I really
want to be able to do that half marathon, maybe I need some more full-spectrum lamps around here or something. But yeah lately I'm struggling to make myself do anything more than 3.5mi.
OK, I'm built for speed, not distance. My notmal race distances are 60 - 400 metres. I've also had sone great 400m hurdle runs. It was the 100m hurdles that did me in yesterday. Note that I run 100, not 110m hurdles. That's a perk of getting old. :D
That's pretty sweet. I've always wanted to be better at the
speedwork, but I'm just the opposite. If I run speedwork, I get
daggers right in the middle of my quadriceps that last for days, if not
a week or more. I must have some abnormality in my legs, because I've
had other speed runners and some doctors tell me that I shouldn't even
be really using that particular facet of that muscle group when I'm sprinting. It's so bad that I actually had to have a doctor tell one
of my drill sergeants back when I was in the army that I wasn't allowed
to do sprints. They'd just put me out of commission for running for
too long.
I really can't imagine running hurdles, either. I'm still too
freaked out by coming down on my groin back in high school, I think. *laugh*
Yeah, I'm lucky in that respect. Our relatively mild winters allow me to be outdoors all year round. I run cross country in winter, usually 1 - 3km, and sometimes run a Parkrun on Saturday mornings (5km). But that's my winter program.
son would have free college), I'm going to try to get down there to get away from the grey 'n nasty winters here. I really enjoyed the desert.
Oh hey, 5k isn't a short run, either. :) You do some runs that
aren't speedwork, obviously. :)
See how it goes. Still rather sore today, but better. :) Also got some serious heat down here. :)
Oh so do you think that you just overtrained it, or did you actually cause some sort of serious injury to it? I kind of thought you
ruptured something by the way it came across at first. Heh.
Have a good one!
Sprite wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I am envious. There doesn't really seem to be much for that around here. People are kind of all set with their pre-existing groups of friends and relatives around here, and breaking into those lines is a
real chore.
There is no task more worth it in life than self-improvement, as far
as I'm concerned.
Vk3jed wrote to Sprite <=-
Yeah coffee culture is alive and well here, and it's great for socialisation.
There are a couple of no wi-fi cafes around here, it's refreshing to see people talking and reading books again.
Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
There are a couple of no wi-fi cafes around here, it's refreshing to see people talking and reading books again.
Just recently I was thinking it might be good & fun to do a
camping trip or something with family & friends, to all go
somewhere without internet access for a little while so we can
put our devices down and interact with each other like in the old
days.
On 12-31-19 08:16, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
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Vk3jed wrote to Sprite <=-
Yeah coffee culture is alive and well here, and it's great for socialisation.
There are a couple of no wi-fi cafes around here, it's refreshing to
see people talking and reading books again.
On 12-31-19 08:15, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Sprite <=-
One of my podcasts was talking about self-improvement. Aim for 1% each
day and at the end of the year it'll compound into huge growth. Extend
one conversation you'd let slide. Accept an invitation to a social
event you'd normally decline. Say hello to someone in line with you.
Baby steps add up.
On 12-31-19 11:01, Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Just recently I was thinking it might be good & fun to do a camping
trip or something with family & friends, to all go somewhere without internet access for a little while so we can put our devices down and interact with each other like in the old days.
There are a couple of no wi-fi cafes around here, it's refreshing to
see people talking and reading books again.
Hmm, you don't have 3G/4G/5G in your town? ;) Here, people tend to talk over coffee regardless. :)
On 12-31-19 23:41, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
People here tend to prefer using wi-fi for data to avoid using data on their cellular network, since many cell phone plans have data caps. Do people generally have unlimited data where you live?
People here tend to prefer using wi-fi for data to avoid using data on their cellular network, since many cell phone plans have data caps. Do people generally have unlimited data where you live?
Re: Re: venting and dumping
By: Vk3jed to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Jan 01 2020 10:09 am
There are a couple of no wi-fi cafes around here, it's refreshing to
see people talking and reading books again.
Hmm, you don't have 3G/4G/5G in your town? ;) Here, people tend to talk over coffee regardless. :)
People here tend to prefer using wi-fi for data to avoid using data on their cellular network, since many cell phone plans have data caps. Do people generally have unlimited data where you live?
Vk3jed wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Hmm, you don't have 3G/4G/5G in your town? ;) Here, people tend to
talk over coffee regardless. :)
Vk3jed wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Hmm, you don't have 3G/4G/5G in your town? ;) Here, people tend to talk over coffee regardless. :)
I'm on the California coast, a little south of Santa Cruz. Cellular reception is poor in most places.
On 01-01-20 13:49, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
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Vk3jed wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Hmm, you don't have 3G/4G/5G in your town? ;) Here, people tend to
talk over coffee regardless. :)
I'm on the California coast, a little south of Santa Cruz. Cellular reception is poor in most places.
On 01-01-20 23:29, Alterego wrote to Nightfox <=-
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Re: Re: venting and dumping
By: Nightfox to Vk3jed on Tue Dec 31 2019 11:41 pm
People here tend to prefer using wi-fi for data to avoid using data on their cellular network, since many cell phone plans have data caps. Do people generally have unlimited data where you live?
Unlimited data on home broadband - but not unlimited on the mobile... ...deon
On 01-01-20 13:34, MRO wrote to Nightfox <=-
well i'd rather use my cellphone plan instead of public wifi.
i'd rather be safe than sorry.
Vk3jed wrote to Alterego <=-
People here tend to prefer using wi-fi for data to avoid using data on their cellular network, since many cell phone plans have data caps. Do people generally have unlimited data where you live?
Unlimited data on home broadband - but not unlimited on the mobile... ...deon
Same here. :)
I'm on the California coast, a little south of Santa Cruz. Cellular reception is poor in most places.
On 01-02-20 07:46, Gamgee wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Just the opposite here - unlimited on mobile, but a 1TB/mo limit
on home broadband data.
Yeah coffee culture is alive and well here, and it's great for socialisation.
It's the same here, but I hardly drink. Only broke a 7 month dry spell for Christmas, and I suspect after tonight, another long dry spell is about to start, and any drinking done over Christmas-New Years has been very light.
Unfortunately, our politicians seem to look up to the US for the wrong reasons. :(
No harm in looking for 2 different sets of groups. One to helpwith your situation, one to connect with locals. :)
Getting out will help, especially if it's light at the time you're outside. n You definitely need that sun exposure.
That's weird. If I have a few aches, usually they go away as I near top speed. :) And it's easier for me to get up to speed than go slow. We have a joke at training that the hardest run for the night is the warmup lap, which is usually done at 5-6 min/km pace for a lap (~ 400 metres)
We're bordering on semi arid here. Summers are now hot and dry, winters cool with conditions varying from sunny to light rain.
Yeah I do go longer in my off season for fitness. :)
Well it's not great, but slowly improving. I'm about to head out for a massage, which shouyld help.
Meetup.com had some interesting meets for different creative/tech types, but I'm worried that they'll go down with WeWork.
One of my podcasts was talking about self-improvement. Aim for 1% each day and at the end of the year it'll compound into huge growth. Extend one conversation you'd let slide. Accept an invitation to a social event you'd normally decline. Say hello to someone in line with you. Baby steps add up.
Just recently I was thinking it might be good & fun to do a camping trip or something with family & friends, to all go somewhere without internet access for a little while so we can put our devices down and interact with each other like in the old days.
Re: Re: venting and dumping
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Vk3jed on Wed Jan 01 2020 01:49 pm
I'm on the California coast, a little south of Santa Cruz. Cellular reception is poor in most places.
I'm surprised to hear celluar reception being poor in most places there. I' think cellular reception would be pretty good in most places in California, home of Silicon Valley..
I've been trying to put together things like that during the summer. I've been successful with one community that I'm a member of, but the hardest part is definitely getting my son off of the electronics when that is going on. God and I thought _I_ was bad.
all they have to do is put up some cellphone towers and make them look like trees.
Just the opposite here - unlimited on mobile, but a 1TB/mo limit
on home broadband data.
That seems unusual. :)
Alcohol is killer on the body. I'm a lot happier not drinking, but it does make the socialization a million times easier; not to mention it seems like (at least around here) most groups are using it when they're socializing, so it's easier to break into circles with a little booze on hand.
Oh don't I know it. I've got one of those seasonal depression lamps that blasts your eyeballs at like 10k lux, but even that only takes the barest edges off of the depression. I try to get out (and it's pretty easy) any time the sun is out, but when the jet stream dips and those polar air masses are overhead it's tough for me to pry my ass out the door for just about anything, or even out of bed for that matter. I managed today, though, so it is possible at times.
I'm jealous. I miss living in Yuma, where I did a stint for a few years.
On 01-02-20 17:01, Sprite wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I wish that there were places around here that advertised a social
hour or something of the like. I'll have to check MeetUps.com again or whatever the site is, sometimes they have things like that going on
around here. Thanks for reminding me about that *loads the tab*.
Alcohol is killer on the body. I'm a lot happier not drinking, but
it does make the socialization a million times easier; not to mention
it seems like (at least around here) most groups are using it when
they're socializing, so it's easier to break into circles with a little booze on hand.
I've heard that before from some people from down there on Diaspora before. I was hoping they were wrong. :(
I've been looking. Have to dig a little farther today. There are
sooo many groups...
Oh don't I know it. I've got one of those seasonal depression lamps that blasts your eyeballs at like 10k lux, but even that only takes the barest edges off of the depression. I try to get out (and it's pretty easy) any time the sun is out, but when the jet stream dips and those polar air masses are overhead it's tough for me to pry my ass out the
door for just about anything, or even out of bed for that matter. I managed today, though, so it is possible at times.
Yeah I've never figured out the quad daggers, I really need to talk
to a doctor about it and try to figure out what's going on with things.
It makes me think that I've got some mutant strangely attached muscle groups in my quads or something that would cause me to be using
auxiliary muscle groups for something that should be handled otherwise
in a different group.
Your affinity for speed is alien to me.
We're bordering on semi arid here. Summers are now hot and dry, winters cool with conditions varying from sunny to light rain.
I'm jealous. I miss living in Yuma, where I did a stint for a few years. Love the climate, loved the Mexicans... The white people down there I didn't get along with very well there, though. Too damn conservative (they'd probably fit in fairly well with a lot around here from what I've seen).
Yeah I do go longer in my off season for fitness. :)
Cool. The distance running is where it's at. ;)
Well it's not great, but slowly improving. I'm about to head out for a massage, which shouyld help.
Hope that helped out for you!
On 01-02-20 17:06, Sprite wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Yeah I just remembered that when I was typing up a different reply a little bit ago here. I've got the tab open and I'm going to dig
through it when I'm done replying to messages here in a bit.
That's a good philosophy. I've actually been in line with it for
today, too. I went out and met somebody that I've been talking to
online for awhile here, and stuck around a few minutes instead of scuttling off right away. I'm going to try to keep that going every
day, I like this idea a lot.
On 01-02-20 17:07, Sprite wrote to Nightfox <=-
I've been trying to put together things like that during the summer. I've been successful with one community that I'm a member of, but the hardest part is definitely getting my son off of the electronics when
that is going on. God and I thought _I_ was bad.
been successful with one community that I'm a member of, but the hardest part is definitely getting my son off of the electronics when that is going on. God and I thought _I_ was bad.
Re: Re: venting and dumping
By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Jan 02 2020 09:55 pm
all they have to do is put up some cellphone towers and make them look like trees.
Dressing them up as trees wouldn't really be necessary.. Does it really mat if they look like part of the scenery?
I used to hear about ISPs having data caps on home internet service, but I haven't seen them do that very often these days. When I used to use Comcast did see something on their web site about data caps being suspended.
On 01-02-20 22:21, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
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Re: Re: venting and dumping
By: Vk3jed to Gamgee on Fri Jan 03 2020 11:47 am
Just the opposite here - unlimited on mobile, but a 1TB/mo limit
on home broadband data.
That seems unusual. :)
I used to hear about ISPs having data caps on home internet service,
but I haven't seen them do that very often these days. When I used to
use Comcast, I did see something on their web site about data caps
being suspended.
Alcohol is killer on the body. I'm a lot happier not drinking, but it does m
ke the socialization a million times easier; not to mention it seems like (at l
ast around here) most groups are using it when they're socializing, so it's eas
er to break into circles with a little booze on hand.
Dressing them up as trees wouldn't really be necessary.. Does it really matter
if they look like part of the scenery?
I've heard that before from some people from down there on Diaspora before. I was hoping they were wrong. :(
Sadly, they're not. :( I haven't used diaspora, but it looks interesting.
On 01-03-20 19:07, Dumas Walker wrote to VK3JED <=-
From what little I have seen (on a YT channel), it sounds like they are taking things to a whole new level down that way, making the US look
tame by comparison.
On 01-03-20 15:45, MRO wrote to Nightfox <=-
that's your opinion. disguising cellphone towers is done all over the country. they've been doing it since the 1980s
MRO wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
that's nuts. why is that?
On 01-02-20 06:48, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to MRO <=-
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MRO wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
that's nuts. why is that?
Hills.
On 01-02-20 06:48, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to MRO <=-
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MRO wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
that's nuts. why is that?
Hills.
That'd do it. :)
On 01-04-20 21:53, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
same solution to any cell issue, though. put more towers.
we have hills in my state, too.
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MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
same solution to any cell issue, though. put more towers.
we have hills in my state, too.
MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
same solution to any cell issue, though. put more towers.
we have hills in my state, too.
I'll call the chairman of AT&T after I finish this mail packet.
When I was a kid, one of my favorite Christmas presents one year was a cassette player Walkman. I liked being able to listen to music anywhere I went, especially on road trips we sometimes went on in the summer. While I liked the road trips overall, sitting in the car (or motorhome, as it was a few times) for hours at a time could get rather boring.
People do seem to think it's weird sometimes if you don't want an alcoholic beverage, and I don't know why that really needs to be the case. I find it odd that there's a compulsion for people to want to consume alcohol when they're socializing.. One time I met up with a couple friends at a small cafe/restaurant, and when the waitress asked about drinks, the waitress laughed at me a little when I said I just wanted water. I though tthat was a bit unprofessional..
Sometimes I feel like I have the opposite, feeling more down during the summer. Some/many of the things I enjoy doing can be done indoors, so clouds & rain don't really bother me much.
I don't think I could live in a place like Yuma. Arizona is too hot during the summer for my tastes. And I've heard there's a real risk of heat stroke going outside in the summer in Arizona.. I've visited Arizona a few times for day trips for work, during April and the weather was already in the 80s (Fahrenheit).
Meetup is a good source of social functions, as are local Facebook groups, especially for niche and minority communities.
I use two magic words and don't even have to lie - "I'm driving". These days, with the cops very strice on drink driving enforcement, it has become socially acceptable not to drink if you're driving. There's also been a lot of publicity to encourage people to not drink when they're driving (or will be), and vice versa.
Sadly, they're not. :( I haven't used diaspora, but it looks interesting.
Right now, I'm nursing an injury, and although I'm getting outside, it's been tough getting the intensity of exercise that I need. But I have been getting creative in the pool, which is helping. :)
Perhaps you might need to see a physiotherapist or even an exercise physiologist, once the doc has finished with you. :)
Somewhere around 25-30 km/h, I become a lot more efficient and freer, top speed is a little shy from 35, by the best estimates. :) You could say I'm a speed addict, in the most literal sense. :D
Oh, OK. Yeah I love the climate here, though the summers are getting scary now. It's currently 39C and 11% RH. Everything is tinder dry, and the eastern 20% of the state is on fire!
Not for me, faster is better. I'm at my happiest at top speed. :)
It did a bit. Had some steady improvement, but still days away from any serious running on it at least. :( Once it's safe to run on the leg, then I can do the final stage of rehab. :)
Yeah the younger generation is addicted to its devices. I am a tech head (among other things), but I can put my devices down when something else is happening.
Went to daughter-in-law's Christmas morning to see grandkids and such. At about 10:30 in the morning, not a kid outside. No footballs, basketballs, bikes, nothing. All were inside. Temp as over 60 deg. They're all inside these days.
Here it is alcohol and cigarettes and, sometimes, more illicit substances. It is difficult to find a social group that is not drinking or smoking or, likely, both. That said, I have reached the age where I am not really looking to socialize much. I get enough human interaction at work that I am usually pretty glad to be home where it is quiet otherwise.
Sometimes I feel like I have the opposite, feeling more down during
the summer. Some/many of the things I enjoy doing can be done
indoors, so clouds & rain don't really bother me much.
Weird. I can't really relate to that. Heh. Even too many clouds and too much rain during the summer will pummel me mentally. Like when I lived in Portland, or even when we've had really rainy summers here.
I don't think I could live in a place like Yuma. Arizona is too hot
during the summer for my tastes. And I've heard there's a real risk
of heat stroke going outside in the summer in Arizona.. I've visited
Arizona a few times for day trips for work, during April and the
weather was already in the 80s (Fahrenheit).
Oh it was beautiful. I didn't even mind the heat, because there was no humidity with it at all. Here when it's that hot it's usually in pre-thunderstorm conditions, and things are muggy as hell. You go outside when it's over 100 and it's like somebody punches you right in your lungs when you're trying to breathe. There I could go outside and actually run a few miles when it was over 110, so long as I had the water with. Could barely feel it. :) Maybe that's just because of the acclimation I've got to the hot & muggy conditions, though.
:( This generation is pretty helpless when it comes to a lot
of things, and they're missing out on soooo much IRL experience.
Our fault for letting the tv(or other device) become the babysitter. I like the commercials that encourage an hour a day outside though. Balls, bikes, and the playground (or pasture). Sometinmes even the bad helps. At least they will learn what not to do.
Re: Re: venting and dumping
By: Grease to Sprite on Wed Jan 08 2020 10:29 am
Our fault for letting the tv(or other device) become the babysitter. I like the commercials that encourage an hour a day outside though. Balls bikes, and the playground (or pasture). Sometinmes even the bad helps. least they will learn what not to do.
TV becoming the babysitter has been a worry for a very long time. First it the TV, then it was video games played on the TV, and these days it's that p
TV becoming the babysitter has been a worry for a very long time. First it was the TV, then it was video games played on the TV, and these days it's that plus mobile devices.
tv was my babysitter and i'm better off for it. mr rogers was practically my father. i'm the only one in my family to go to college and i'm the most
More kids are getting home schooled these days too. Soon, we'll be in our cocoons and never leave.
I'm not sure how I feel about home schooling. I know it works fine for a lot of people. I don't have any direct experience with it, as I wasn't home-schooled, but I think there's something to be said for getting out of the house and interacting with other kids/students.
Re: Re: venting and dumping
By: MRO to Nightfox on Wed Jan 08 2020 03:43 pm
tv was my babysitter and i'm better off for it. mr rogers was practical my father. i'm the only one in my family to go to college and i'm the m
I recently saw the movie "It's A Beautiful Day In The Neighborhood" with Tom Hanks. Interesting movie.
I'm not sure how I feel about home schooling. I know it works fine
for a lot of people. I don't have any direct experience with it, as
I wasn't home-schooled, but I think there's something to be said for
getting out of the house and interacting with other kids/students.
It's all done on a computer. My niece is doing it. It's actuall through the Houston school district. She watches videos and downloads the work and emails it back. But not a lot of interaction with others.
Re: Re: venting and dumping
By: Nightfox to Sprite on Thu Jan 02 2020 22:19:15
When I was a kid, one of my favorite Christmas presents one year was a cassette player Walkman. I liked being able to listen to music anywhere went, especially on road trips we sometimes went on in the summer. Whil liked the road trips overall, sitting in the car (or motorhome, as it w a few times) for hours at a time could get rather boring.
Yup, ditto that. I remember listening to Roxette's album with Joyride on
Re: Re: venting and dumping
By: Dumas Walker to SPRITE on Fri Jan 03 2020 19:04:00
Here it is alcohol and cigarettes and, sometimes, more illicit substanc It is difficult to find a social group that is not drinking or smoking likely, both. That said, I have reached the age where I am not really looking to socialize much. I get enough human interaction at work that am usually pretty glad to be home where it is quiet otherwise.
Yeah, there are groups around here, too, that aren't necessarily booze 'n
don't really have much in common with them any more. I think I'm not quite
The other substance that has quite an avid group following around here is,
drama and oftentimes violence awaiting you in the end. God save us from th
Re: Re: venting and dumping
By: Grease to Sprite on Wed Jan 08 2020 10:29 am
Our fault for letting the tv(or other device) become the babysitter. I like the commercials that encourage an hour a day outside though. Balls bikes, and the playground (or pasture). Sometinmes even the bad helps. least they will learn what not to do.
TV becoming the babysitter has been a worry for a very long time. First it
Nightfox
Re: Re: venting and dumping
By: Nightfox to Grease on Wed Jan 08 2020 12:51 pm
Re: Re: venting and dumping
By: Grease to Sprite on Wed Jan 08 2020 10:29 am
Our fault for letting the tv(or other device) become the babysitter. like the commercials that encourage an hour a day outside though. Ba bikes, and the playground (or pasture). Sometinmes even the bad help least they will learn what not to do.
TV becoming the babysitter has been a worry for a very long time. First the TV, then it was video games played on the TV, and these days it's tha
tv was my babysitter and i'm better off for it. mr rogers was practically m father. i'm the only one in my family to go to college and i'm the most successful out of my entire family. i loved educational television and watc it all the time. i was college level in a few areas when i was in elementa school too. comic books and tv worked for me.
Before TV they blamed books and radio. Can you imagine someone getting mad about a kid reading a book nowadays? Books put subversive thoughts in kids minds.
First thing I did with my portable tape player was go to Radio Shack and get a clip that held 2 D cell batteries, and wire it to the battery contacts in the player. It was held on by double sided tape ,but did the job. Next purchase was rechargable batteries.
I live out in the country, but further up the road towards town there have been reports of missing items from unlocked cars. The druggie kids go from house to house within walking distance of each other to grab spare change or items they can resell. The pawn shops no longer take GPS units.
Nightfox wrote to Moondog <=-
First thing I did with my portable tape player was go to Radio Shack and get a clip that held 2 D cell batteries, and wire it to the battery contacts in the player. It was held on by double sided tape ,but did the job. Next purchase was rechargable batteries.
Was your portable tape player designed for AA batteries?
Wouldn't the D batteries overload the tape player if it was
designed for smaller batteries?
remembering wrong.. If it's all done on computers like that, it sounds like the kids still have a teacher working for a school somewhere who is grading thir work remotely?
The voltage out of a D battery is the same as an AA battery (1.5
vdc). The AAA and C batteries are also 1.5 volts, so they would
all work. The difference (size) is just capacity/endurance.
Grease wrote to Nightfox <=-
More kids are getting home schooled these days too. Soon, we'll be in
our cocoons and never leave.
First thing I did with my portable tape player was go to Radio Shack and get a clip that held 2 D cell batteries, and wire it to the battery contacts in the player. It was held on by double sided tape ,but did the job. Next purchase was rechargable batteries.
There's a lot of bullying going on in public and parochial schools in my experience. While my instinct would be to home-school, they're going to run into those same kids in real life and need to learn how to deal with it some time.
That's why I always lock my car. I don't know why I'd ever want to leave
I don't own a car any more, don't really need one in Stockholm. When I did have a car I never locked it - I also never kept my valuables in it when I wasn't in it. I'd rather someone open the door and scrounge for stuff then break my window and still get nothing.
Re: Re: venting and dumping
By: Nightfox to Grease on Wed Jan 08 2020 12:51 pm
TV becoming the babysitter has been a worry for a very long time. First was the TV, then it was video games played on the TV, and these days it that plus mobile devices.
More kids are getting home schooled these days too. Soon, we'll be in our co
Grease
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Re: Re: venting and dumping
By: Grease to Nightfox on Wed Jan 08 2020 03:55 pm
More kids are getting home schooled these days too. Soon, we'll be in o cocoons and never leave.
I'm not sure how I feel about home schooling. I know it works fine for a lo her kids/students. I'd worry about a home-schooled child not being socializ nly had to spend 2 years at my jr. high school, as they moved 9th grade back
Nightfox
Re: Re: venting and dumping
By: Moondog to Nightfox on Wed Jan 08 2020 06:57 pm
Before TV they blamed books and radio. Can you imagine someone getting about a kid reading a book nowadays? Books put subversive thoughts in k minds.
Yeah, that seems weird. What did people do before there were books? How di ings as recent as the early days of radio. I mean, sure, there are some boo
it would put bad ideas into your head. I've heard that long ago, not many
Nightfox
Re: Re: venting and dumping
By: Moondog to Sprite on Wed Jan 08 2020 06:44 pm
First thing I did with my portable tape player was go to Radio Shack an get a clip that held 2 D cell batteries, and wire it to the battery contacts in the player. It was held on by double sided tape ,but did th job. Next purchase was rechargable batteries.
Was your portable tape player designed for AA batteries? Wouldn't the D bat
I liked the rechargeable batteries too. I thought the NiCd batteries were r
Nightfox
Re: Re: venting and dumping
By: Moondog to Sprite on Wed Jan 08 2020 06:52 pm
I live out in the country, but further up the road towards town there h been reports of missing items from unlocked cars. The druggie kids go f house to house within walking distance of each other to grab spare chan or items they can resell. The pawn shops no longer take GPS units.
That's why I always lock my car. I don't know why I'd ever want to leave it ght want to break into your car.
Nightfox
The Portland, OR area is where I live. I grew up here, so perhaps I'm used to it.
suppose a person can get used to it. But even with a dry heat, there's things like getting inside a car on a hot day, where the inside of a car can be like an oven.. I'm glad pretty much all cars these days have air conditioning. It used to be that air conditioning was a luxury feature and many cars didn't have A/C..
Our fault for letting the tv(or other device) become the babysitter. I like the commercials that encourage an hour a day outside though. Balls, bikes, and the playground (or pasture).
I'm not sure how I feel about home schooling. I know it works fine for a lot of people. I don't have any direct experience with it, as I wasn't home-schooled, but I think there's something to be said for getting out of the house and interacting with other kids/students. I'd worry about a home-schooled child not being socialized well. I imagine one worry that parents would have is bullying at school, which I know is a real issue. My experience in jr. high school wasn't the best (and I'm thankful I only had to spend 2 years at my jr. high school, as they moved 9th grade back into high school here right after I finished 8th grade), but overall I had good friends in school. I'd find it hard to imagine growing up having school lessons at home.
job. Next purchase was rechargable batteries.
I live out in the country, but further up the road towards town there have been reports of missing items from unlocked cars. The druggie kids go from house to house within walking distance of each other to grab spare change or items they can resell. The pawn shops no longer take GPS units.
I'm sure they might make it out to my area, but ti looks suspicious when you see a teenager walking down the road in the middle of nowhere. Where I'm at there are 5 houses per mile, so it's quite a walk, and out of place people are
quite obvious.
Yeah, that seems weird. What did people do before there were books? How did people learn things that they couldn't learn from other people they knew? And books have been around for a very long time.. I'd be surprised
There's a lot of bullying going on in public and parochial schools in my experience. While my instinct would be to home-school, they're going to run into those same kids in real life and need to learn how to deal with it some time.
That's true. I kind of forgot about the dessicatingly hot blasts coming out of a freshly opened vehicle there. Heh. I think I mentioned this way back in the day, but the first day I got to Yuma it was 118F, and I'd arrived with no AC in the vehicle and two cats that weren't crated. So I had to keep the windows rolled almost all of the way up despite the heat. We were sweating water out just as fast as we were taking it in, it must've been 125 in that vehicle at least. Even the cats were getting soggy around the muzzles, I think just from panting. I felt awful about it, but homelessness was the key word at the time, there wasn't much I could do other than drive on through and try to get to the place where we had AC waiting for us.
Ugh I tried rechargeables in my walkman. Didn't that play with the tape speed too low?
I don't own a car any more, don't really need one in Stockholm. When I did h a car I never locked it - I also never kept my valuables in it when I wasn't it. I'd rather someone open the door and scrounge for stuff then break my window and still get nothing.
That would be a step up from here. There are always wandering folks around at
me sort of suspicious behavior.
Kind of wish I lived in a place like that. I'm getting pretty sick of my
On 01-08-20 23:44, Nightfox wrote to Moondog <=-
Was your portable tape player designed for AA batteries? Wouldn't the
D batteries overload the tape player if it was designed for smaller batteries?
I liked the rechargeable batteries too. I thought the NiCd batteries
were really cool, even though you had to fully drain them before recharging them or they'd lose their charging capacity.
On 01-09-20 11:15, Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-
Ah. I thought the amperage would be greater in the bigger batteries,
but maybe not..
On 01-09-20 23:16, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Moondog <=-
My first Walkman (The Walkman Model 2, the silver one with the orange
foam headphones) came with a belt-clip battery pack that held 2 D batteries. It gave it something like 60 hours of battery life. I don't think they ever did that again.
On 01-10-20 16:24, Sprite wrote to Moondog <=-
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Re: Re: venting and dumping
By: Moondog to Sprite on Wed Jan 08 2020 18:44:00
job. Next purchase was rechargable batteries.
Ugh I tried rechargeables in my walkman. Didn't that play with the
tape speed too low?
On 01-10-20 21:17, Nightfox wrote to Sprite <=-
I seem to remember NiCd rechargeable batteries being 1.2 volts, whereas non-rechargeable batteries were typically 1.5 volts. I think the difference in voltage did cause issues with some things.
Sprite wrote to Moondog <=-
Ugh I tried rechargeables in my walkman. Didn't that play with the
tape speed too low?
MRO wrote to Limping Ninja <=-
that's what my mom used to say until someone went in her car and fucked
up the dash with a crowbar just to get her shitty stock radio.
thinks should be locked regardless.
NiCd were good in their day, but NiMH, especially the newer low self discharge ones were better, and Li-Ion are better again, but need to have all of their charge controllers, etc, for safe usage.
That makes sense. NiCd batteries had a 1.2v terminal voltage, compared to 1.5v for non rechargeable batteries. If the walkman took 2 batteries, you're 0.6V low, and it gets worse with more. Chances are the tape speed would be low, because the motors are running below their design voltage. That depends on the exact model of walkman, because some would be more tolerant of low voltage than others.
On 01-13-20 13:15, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Yep. I was surprised recently to find out there still seem to be
people who will unplug their devices after so many hours for fear of over-charging. We generally haven't had to do that for many years,
are fully charged. Usually we don't even hear about how long certain batteries take to fully charge anymore.. I remember when I'd hear that NiCd or NiMH batteries might take 6 or 8 hours to fully charge, and I
used to have power timers I'd plug into the wall where you could set a duration of time, and they'd cut off power after that much time, so I could avoid over-charging my batteries.
On 01-13-20 13:20, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
As the energy in a battery goes down over time, I imagined the tape
speed would go down, so if you're doing a long recording on a battery-powered cassette walkman and tried to play the tape back on another player, you'd probably hear the speed of the recording increase over time..
MRO wrote to Limping Ninja <=-
that's what my mom used to say until someone went in her car and fucked up the dash with a crowbar just to get her shitty stock radio.
thinks should be locked regardless.
Yep. I was surprised recently to find out there still seem to be people who will unplug their devices after so many hours for fear of over-charging. We generally haven't had to do that for many years, because many electronics th days have charge protection circuits that will stop charging the batteries w
i just bought a pet hair vac that needs to be unplugged after charging.
we didnt do it and it screwed up.
bissell pet hair eraser and car vac.
As the energy in a battery goes down over time, I imagined the tape
speed would go down, so if you're doing a long recording on a battery-powered cassette walkman and tried to play the tape back on another player, you'd probably hear the speed of the recording
increase over time..
Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Yep. I was surprised recently to find out there still seem to be
people who will unplug their devices after so many hours for fear of over-charging.
Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
As the energy in a battery goes down over time, I imagined the tape
speed would go down, so if you're doing a long recording on a battery-powered cassette walkman and tried to play the tape back on another player, you'd probably hear the speed of the recording increase over time..
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Nightfox <=-
We used to have a tape-fed answering machine at our cabin in the
Sierra Nevada mountains. We'd call it to see if the power was
still up, and in mid- winter (when the temp in the cabin was in
the teens) the lubricants would get hard and the electronics
would have a hard time - it'd sound like Hal singing "Daisy".
As the energy in a battery goes down over time, I imagined the tape
speed would go down, so if you're doing a long recording on a
battery-powered cassette walkman and tried to play the tape back on
another player, you'd probably hear the speed of the recording
increase over time..
while the concept is correct, the flaw here is that walkmans were players, not recorders... at least the ones i had only had play, rewind, fast forward, and stop buttons on them ;)
now, those little dictaphone recorders and similar "personel recorders"? yeah, they could suffer from that unless their drive motor circuitry was designed to make them move at a specific speed all the time or stop if there wasn't enough power to do so...
We used to have a tape-fed answering machine at our cabin in the Sierra Nevada mountains. We'd call it to see if the power was still up, and in mid- winter (when the temp in the cabin was in the teens) the lubricants would get hard and the electronics would have a hard time - it'd sound like Hal singing "Daisy".
On 01-14-20 06:01, Rampage wrote to Nightfox <=-
while the concept is correct, the flaw here is that walkmans were
players, not recorders... at least the ones i had only had play,
rewind, fast forward, and stop buttons on them ;)
now, those little dictaphone recorders and similar "personel
recorders"? yeah, they could suffer from that unless their drive motor circuitry was designed to make them move at a specific speed all the
time or stop if there wasn't enough power to do so...
Re: Re: venting and dumping
By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Sat Jan 11 2020 03:49 pm
NiCd were good in their day, but NiMH, especially the newer low self discharge ones were better, and Li-Ion are better again, but need to ha all of their charge controllers, etc, for safe usage.
Yep. I was surprised recently to find out there still seem to be people who tection circuits that will stop charging the batteries when they detect the ht take 6 or 8 hours to fully charge, and I used to have power timers I'd pl
Nightfox
Re: Re: venting and dumping
By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Jan 13 2020 10:30 pm
i just bought a pet hair vac that needs to be unplugged after charging. we didnt do it and it screwed up.
bissell pet hair eraser and car vac.
We have a Bissell home vacuum that can handle pet hair, which is basically a handhelf vacuum that attaches to a stick so it can become a floor vacuum. I has worked fairly well, and the only problem it has had is that the flexible joint on the stick broke, so we had to put a bunch of tape on it so it would
On 01-14-20 06:01, Rampage wrote to Nightfox <=-
while the concept is correct, the flaw here is that walkmans were players, not recorders... at least the ones i had only had play, rewind, fast forward, and stop buttons on them ;)
There were some higher end Walkmans that could record. I also had a Tandy/Radio Shack one that could record. That should still be kicking aroun here somewhere.
now, those little dictaphone recorders and similar "personel recorders"? yeah, they could suffer from that unless their drive motor circuitry was designed to make them move at a specific speed all the time or stop if there wasn't enough power to do so...
And speed regulation is les critical for speech than music.
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Walkman is the trademarked name of Sony products. Any other brand is a portable tape player or radio, or both.
On 01-15-20 22:18, Moondog wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Walkman is the trademarked name of Sony products. Any other brand is
a portable tape player or radio, or both.
Re: Re: venting and dumping
By: Moondog to Vk3jed on Wed Jan 15 2020 10:18 pm
Walkman is the trademarked name of Sony products. Any other brand is a portable tape player or radio, or both.
Yes, though many people tend to use the word "Walkman" more generically, sim
Nightfox
I assumed that, since I cannot recall any Walkmans (as a brand) having recor abilities.
I assumed that, since I cannot recall any Walkmans (as a brand) having record abilities.
Vk3jed wrote to Rampage <=-
There were some higher end Walkmans that could record. I also had a Tandy/Radio Shack one that could record. That should still be kicking around here somewhere.
On 01-15-20 07:14, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
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Vk3jed wrote to Rampage <=-
There were some higher end Walkmans that could record. I also had a Tandy/Radio Shack one that could record. That should still be kicking around here somewhere.
The original Walkman was built around an "executive" portable recorder,
it had 2 little mikes on the top.
On 01-18-20 14:37, Moondog wrote to Nightfox <=-
I assumed that, since I cannot recall any Walkmans (as a brand) having record abilities.
Cool. The one I saw was a later model, but it did record ambient sound rather well for its day. :)
On 01-21-20 10:22, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
@VIA: VERT/REALITY
Re: Re: venting and dumping
By: Vk3jed to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Jan 21 2020 08:33 am
Cool. The one I saw was a later model, but it did record ambient sound rather well for its day. :)
Did it record the sound or pass it through to the headphones? I seem to recall some of the ancient models doing that to make it less sound-isolating.
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