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    From Pparker@VERT/OUTWEST to All on Tuesday, September 24, 2019 00:58:06
    So, I remember reading somewhere that the internet
    actually grew out of NSFNET, and not ARPANET, but that
    article says they were both decomissioned. I mean, the
    internet is just whatever servers and clients are
    connected to each other I think, and it said that the
    decomissioning of NSFNET removed any barriers for the
    internet being used commercially. Were all of the
    networks the article talked about part of the internet?
    And what exactly were the barriers besides AOL not hooking
    up everyones homes yet?

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  • From Pparker@VERT/OUTWEST to All on Tuesday, September 24, 2019 02:13:18
    *and the article you posted said that the decomissioning of NSFNET removed any barriers for the internet being used commercially.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Pparker on Tuesday, September 24, 2019 09:45:45
    Re: The Internet
    By: Pparker to All on Tue Sep 24 2019 12:58 am

    And what exactly were the barriers besides AOL not hooking
    up everyones homes yet?

    AOL was initially its own service, separate from the internet. AOL had many of the same features, like chat, email, games, etc., but AOL didn't add access to the internet until many years after it started. There were already many users using AOL, but I think use of AOL started to decline when people decided to just use an internet provider.

    AOL wasn't the only service of its type either. Others included Prodigy and CompuServe, and I think others that I can't think of right now. Services like that were all fairly big nation-wide computer services that had some similar features and were separate from the internet.

    Nightfox

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  • From jeff@VERT/PRCPTRN3 to Nightfox on Tuesday, September 24, 2019 12:26:00
    On 24 Sep 2019, Nightfox said the following...
    AOL wasn't the only service of its type either. Others included Prodigy and Com puServe, and I think others that I can't think of right now. Services like that were all fairly big nation-wide computer services
    that had some similar feature s and were sepa

    PLATO was another; check out http://irata.online for resurrected PLATO
    instance focused on retrocomputing.

    Jeff.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Pparker on Tuesday, September 24, 2019 17:14:00
    Pparker wrote to All <=-

    So, I remember reading somewhere that the internet
    actually grew out of NSFNET, and not ARPANET, but that
    article says they were both decomissioned. I mean, the
    internet is just whatever servers and clients are
    connected to each other I think, and it said that the
    decomissioning of NSFNET removed any barriers for the
    internet being used commercially. Were all of the
    networks the article talked about part of the internet?
    And what exactly were the barriers besides AOL not hooking
    up everyones homes yet?

    I think a big part of the barriers that were removed to allow commercialization had to do with the fact that much of the
    original "internet" was based on military / intelligence
    infrastructure, and a probable natural tendency to protect such
    technology back in the Cold War days.


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Nightfox on Tuesday, September 24, 2019 20:12:00
    Re: The Internet
    By: Nightfox to Pparker on Tue Sep 24 2019 09:45 am

    Re: The Internet
    By: Pparker to All on Tue Sep 24 2019 12:58 am

    And what exactly were the barriers besides AOL not hooking
    up everyones homes yet?

    AOL was initially its own service, separate from the internet. AOL had many
    think use of AOL started to decline when people decided to just use an inte

    AOL wasn't the only service of its type either. Others included Prodigy and arate from the internet.

    Nightfox



    These services started out as high end BBS's with custom interface software, then later on offered a portal to the internet. The final nail in their coffin
    was when interest declined in their in hosted online community areas. Harder to control content and ensure ads are being viewed if people bypass the
    process completely.

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  • From Lupine Furmen@VERT/FURFOL to Nightfox on Thursday, September 26, 2019 13:01:11
    Re: The Internet
    By: Nightfox to Pparker on Tue Sep 24 2019 09:45:45

    AOL was initially its own service, separate from the internet. AOL had many

    AOHell was nothing more than a glorified BBS with fancy graphics.

    I would probably go as far as to say that they were the next step up from RIP graphics.

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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZZONE to jeff on Monday, September 30, 2019 14:24:08
    Re: Re: The Internet
    By: jeff to Nightfox on Tue Sep 24 2019 12:26 pm

    On 24 Sep 2019, Nightfox said the following...
    AOL wasn't the only service of its type either. Others included Prodig and Com puServe, and I think others that I can't think of right now. Services like that were all fairly big nation-wide computer services that had some similar feature s and were sepa

    PLATO was another; check out http://irata.online for resurrected PLATO instance focused on retrocomputing.

    Jeff.


    "The Source" was another one

    And there might have been one called something like "The Forum" if I remember correctly.


    Thanks,
    Zombie Mambo

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  • From jeff@VERT/PRCPTRN3 to Zombie Mambo on Tuesday, October 01, 2019 11:35:00
    On 30 Sep 2019, Zombie Mambo said the following...
    "The Source" was another one

    And there might have been one called something like "The Forum" if I remember correctly.

    Also, GEnie.

    Jeff.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to jeff on Tuesday, October 01, 2019 16:07:19
    Re: Re: The Internet
    By: jeff to Zombie Mambo on Tue Oct 01 2019 11:35 am

    On 30 Sep 2019, Zombie Mambo said the following...
    "The Source" was another one

    And there might have been one called something like "The Forum" if I remember correctly.

    Also, GEnie.


    i never heard of the source or the forum but i heard of genie, compuserve, aol and prodigy
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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZZONE to MRO on Thursday, October 03, 2019 13:19:30
    Re: Re: The Internet
    By: MRO to jeff on Tue Oct 01 2019 04:07 pm

    Re: Re: The Internet
    By: jeff to Zombie Mambo on Tue Oct 01 2019 11:35 am

    On 30 Sep 2019, Zombie Mambo said the following...
    "The Source" was another one

    And there might have been one called something like "The Forum" if I remember correctly.

    Also, GEnie.


    i never heard of the source or the forum but i heard of genie, compuserve, a and prodigy

    The source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Source_(online_service)
    Appears compuserve snatched themup then discontinued them.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_service_provider
    Another ok mention

    I can't find anything about The Forum but I disctinctly remember calling it in the early 80's. Wonder if it was a Chicagoland thing.









    Thanks,
    Zombie Mambo

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