• 9/11

    From Pparker@VERT/OUTWEST to Dumas Walker on Monday, September 23, 2019 03:03:04
    I don't know about not knowing at all, but the kids that are reaching
    voting age today were not alive when it happened. The ones that have been reaching 18 for the past couple of years now were not old enough to
    remember much, if anything, about it.

    Pretty soon it will be something that us "old people" are paranoid about.
    Damn... I don't remember much from 9/11, but I at least was almost 7 then. There are seriously people who are almost adults who weren't alive then? It doesn't feel like that long ago I was under 18...

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  • From Pparker@VERT/OUTWEST to Dumas Walker on Monday, September 23, 2019 03:14:33
    Oh, wait, I just remembered you meant people who are almost 21 lol. That's even more ridiculous.

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  • From Pparker@VERT/OUTWEST to Dumas Walker on Monday, September 23, 2019 03:16:34
    *Just realized. 'Doh!

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to PPARKER on Monday, September 23, 2019 19:40:00
    Damn... I don't remember much from 9/11, but I at least was almost 7 then. Th
    re are seriously people who are almost adults who weren't alive then? It doesn
    t feel like that long ago I was under 18...

    Well, 9/11/2019 was the 18th anniversary, so anyone who celebrates their
    18th birthday from that point forward was not alive on 9/11/2001. Hard for me to believe also.

    I did also mean older than 18, like 21 <grin>, with my barely old enough to remember comments. If they turn 21 today, they'd have been around 3 years old when it happened. They may remember the adults being upset about something
    but probably did not understand the significance of it.

    Something else that someone brought up the other day... anyone 30 years old
    or less was not alive when the Challenger shuttle blew up. I was in high school then. It is difficult to realize that was that long ago.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Pparker on Monday, September 23, 2019 06:39:00
    Pparker wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    I don't know about not knowing at all, but the kids that are reaching
    voting age today were not alive when it happened. The ones that have been
    rea
    ching 18 for the past couple of years now were not old enough to
    remember much, if anything, about it.

    Pretty soon it will be something that us "old people" are paranoid about.
    Damn... I don't remember much from 9/11, but I at least was almost 7 then. There are seriously people who are almost adults who weren't
    alive then? It doesn't feel like that long ago I was under 18...

    It'll be like trying to explain to my kids about crouching under my desk in elementary school drills to prepare for a nuclear strike.


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, September 24, 2019 09:48:00
    Re: 9/11
    By: Dumas Walker to PPARKER on Mon Sep 23 2019 07:40 pm

    Something else that someone brought up the other day... anyone 30 years old or less was not alive when the Challenger shuttle blew up. I was in high school then. It is difficult to realize that was that long ago.

    I was in 10th grade when Challenger blew up. I was in class, however some classes were able to watch it in the library, I also recall other major
    events such as the Three Mile Island incident, Chernobyl, and the Mir space station incident. Interesting thing about TMI is it was more a success than
    a disaster. Quick thinking prevented a worse scenario.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, September 24, 2019 09:40:43
    Re: 9/11
    By: Dumas Walker to PPARKER on Mon Sep 23 2019 07:40 pm

    Something else that someone brought up the other day... anyone 30 years old or less was not alive when the Challenger shuttle blew up. I was in high school then. It is difficult to realize that was that long ago.

    I was just 6 years old at that time, but I remember seeing news about it on TV and hearing about it.

    I was just thinking about this recently, that there are people graduating high school this year (or soon) who don't remember September 11, 2001. It doesn't seem like it was all that long ago.. And on the 11th this year, I heard the New York Times tweeted (initially) about September 11th that "airplanes took aim" at the towers.. As if the airplanes themselves were self-aware and went rogue.. I heard they later removed their tweet and put up a revised tweet.

    Nightfox

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Moondog on Tuesday, September 24, 2019 16:53:10
    Re: 9/11
    By: Moondog to Dumas Walker on Tue Sep 24 2019 09:48 am

    Something else that someone brought up the other day... anyone 30 years old or less was not alive when the Challenger shuttle blew up. I was in high school then. It is difficult to realize that was that long ago.

    I'm wondering if anyone understands how serious the situation is with Iran? Did anyone in BBS land serve in Iraq? I don't see how we cannot go to war.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to HusTler on Tuesday, September 24, 2019 20:18:00
    Re: 9/11
    By: HusTler to Moondog on Tue Sep 24 2019 04:53 pm

    Re: 9/11
    By: Moondog to Dumas Walker on Tue Sep 24 2019 09:48 am

    Something else that someone brought up the other day... anyone 30 year old or less was not alive when the Challenger shuttle blew up. I was high school then. It is difficult to realize that was that long ago.

    I'm wondering if anyone understands how serious the situation is with Iran?


    My concern is they're another one of those hornets nests we don't want to
    stir up, and stirring them up may trigger more trouble than we expect.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Tuesday, September 24, 2019 22:36:46
    Re: Re: 9/11
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Pparker on Mon Sep 23 2019 06:39 am

    Pparker wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    I don't know about not knowing at all, but the kids that are reaching voting age today were not alive when it happened. The ones that have bee
    rea
    ching 18 for the past couple of years now were not old enough to
    remember much, if anything, about it.

    Pretty soon it will be something that us "old people" are paranoid about.
    Damn... I don't remember much from 9/11, but I at least was almost 7 then. There are seriously people who are almost adults who weren't alive then? It doesn't feel like that long ago I was under 18... [0m

    It'll be like trying to explain to my kids about crouching under my desk in elementary school drills to prepare for a nuclear strike.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MOONDOG on Tuesday, September 24, 2019 18:49:00
    I was in 10th grade when Challenger blew up. I was in class, however some >classes were able to watch it in the library, I also recall other major >events such as the Three Mile Island incident, Chernobyl, and the Mir space >station incident. Interesting thing about TMI is it was more a success than >a disaster. Quick thinking prevented a worse scenario.

    I was also in the 10th grade. I do not remember Mir, but remember the
    other two.

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Moondog on Wednesday, September 25, 2019 13:19:00
    On 09-24-19 09:48, Moondog wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    I was in 10th grade when Challenger blew up. I was in class, however

    I was 19 and studying at university.

    some classes were able to watch it in the library, I also recall other major events such as the Three Mile Island incident, Chernobyl, and the

    I remember Three Mile Island as a kid and Cernobyl happened during my second year at university. I remember hearing the news reports on the radio, while I was on the train into the city.

    Mir space station incident. Interesting thing about TMI is it was more
    a success than a disaster. Quick thinking prevented a worse scenario.

    Yes, they managed to contain TMI well.


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, September 25, 2019 10:06:00
    Re: 9/11
    By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Tue Sep 24 2019 06:49 pm

    I was in 10th grade when Challenger blew up. I was in class, however some >classes were able to watch it in the library, I also recall other major >events such as the Three Mile Island incident, Chernobyl, and the Mir space >station incident. Interesting thing about TMI is it was more a success tha >a disaster. Quick thinking prevented a worse scenario.

    I was also in the 10th grade. I do not remember Mir, but remember the
    other two.

    The Mir incident I'm referring to was when the Russians crashed a used re-supp ly capsule into the station. I think this was in 1997. The Progress cargo module is the unmanned variant of the Soyuz capsule, and when they load them
    to launch into space, carefull consideration is put into proper balancing the internal weight/ mass. After they are docked and unloaded, all the stations trash gets thrown in and eventually undocked to de-orbit and mostly burn up.

    The remote docking system is very good and so far reliable. Much like in the case of Chernobyl, the Russians thought it would be fine to practice "what
    if" scenarios with people's lives. They wanted to cheapen the design of the supply capsule's docking system, so they were practicing docking with used supply capsules full of unbalanced trash. First Progress began to wobble and missed the station completely. The second Progress damaged several solar panels and punctured one of the modules, forcing them to sever power lines going into that module using a plastic butter knifes and permanently sealing off that module. They experienced power problems for weeks, sometimes
    complete outages would cause the station to drift.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MOONDOG on Wednesday, September 25, 2019 16:47:00
    The Mir incident I'm referring to was when the Russians crashed a used re-supp >ly capsule into the station. I think this was in 1997. The Progress cargo
    [...]
    missed the station completely. The second Progress damaged several solar panels and punctured one of the modules, forcing them to sever power lines going into that module using a plastic butter knifes and permanently sealing off that module. They experienced power problems for weeks, sometimes complete outages would cause the station to drift.

    OK I didn't rememeber the why but I do now remember them having issues on
    Mir and having to abandon a part of it.

    I do remember when Skylab crashed back into the atmosphere, although I
    could not tell you exactly when that was.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Thursday, September 26, 2019 09:29:00
    Re: 9/11
    By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Wed Sep 25 2019 04:47 pm

    The Mir incident I'm referring to was when the Russians crashed a used re-s >ly capsule into the station. I think this was in 1997. The Progress cargo
    [...]
    missed the station completely. The second Progress damaged several solar panels and punctured one of the modules, forcing them to sever power lines going into that module using a plastic butter knifes and permanently seali off that module. They experienced power problems for weeks, sometimes complete outages would cause the station to drift.

    OK I didn't rememeber the why but I do now remember them having issues on Mir and having to abandon a part of it.

    I do remember when Skylab crashed back into the atmosphere, although I
    could not tell you exactly when that was.


    1979 was when Skylab fell. It had been abandoned for awhile. IIRC most of
    the debris landed in the outback of Australia. Mir also had a fire, and the R ussians tried to downplay the danger and duration. The guest US astronaut
    said the fire burned for 14 minutes.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to HusTler on Thursday, September 26, 2019 13:30:48
    Re: 9/11
    By: HusTler to Moondog on Tue Sep 24 2019 04:53 pm

    I'm wondering if anyone understands how serious the situation is with Iran? Did anyone in BBS land serve in Iraq? I don't see how we cannot go to war.

    Maybe if we kept our promises we wouldn't be in this stupid position.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Thursday, September 26, 2019 16:38:16
    Re: 9/11
    By: Moondog to Dumas Walker on Thu Sep 26 2019 09:29 am

    the debris landed in the outback of Australia. Mir also had a fire, and the ussians tried to downplay the danger and duration. The guest US astronaut said the fire burned for 14 minutes.


    that's not a big deal when you are a russian cosmonaught
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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to DaiTengu on Thursday, September 26, 2019 19:49:12
    Re: 9/11
    By: DaiTengu to HusTler on Thu Sep 26 2019 01:30 pm

    I'm wondering if anyone understands how serious the situation is with Iran? Did anyone in BBS land serve in Iraq? I don't see how we cannot go to war.

    Maybe if we kept our promises we wouldn't be in this stupid position.

    Maybe. but that's a lot of money that went up in flames. Somebody is gonna pay. It's sad with all this stuff going in the world all the Dems want to do is focus on is some "he said/she said" phone call that may or may not have been made, depending on who you talk to.. It's sad...really sad. I feel bad for our younger citizens. Once again global warming will have to take a back seat.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Thursday, September 26, 2019 18:54:00
    Re: 9/11
    By: MRO to Moondog on Thu Sep 26 2019 04:38 pm

    Re: 9/11
    By: Moondog to Dumas Walker on Thu Sep 26 2019 09:29 am

    the debris landed in the outback of Australia. Mir also had a fire, and ussians tried to downplay the danger and duration. The guest US astronau said the fire burned for 14 minutes.


    that's not a big deal when you are a russian cosmonaught

    That's the main differnce between the US and Russian space programs. The Russian program falls under their military, so when some higher up brass has
    a hare-brained idea or theory, it's either follow orders or look for a new job .



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