• Re: Hi! // netrunner

    From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to all on Sunday, August 04, 2019 21:29:58
    Re: Re: Hi!
    By: Nightfox to Dr. What on Sun Aug 04 2019 05:14 pm

    Re: Re: Hi!
    By: Dr. What to Vk3jed on Sun Aug 04 2019 10:27 am

    I also found that Netrunner will automatically put you in RIP emulation if it gets the message from the BBS that it supports RIP. For some BBSs (like Particles), this causes problems because the Sysop didn't set up RIP on his BBS. And there was no way to disable this "feature" in Netrunner.

    Interesting.. I didn't know NetRunner supported RIP.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to all on Wednesday, August 07, 2019 15:50:31
    Re: Re: Hi!
    By: Denn to HusTler on Tue Aug 06 2019 11:26 pm

    Re: Re: Hi!
    By: HusTler to Immortal on Tue Aug 06 2019 08:00 pm

    [0m[36m Im> Netrunner supports all ports. bbsdomain.com:2400 etc

    Can you tell me where I can change the port in Netrunners phone book?



    what i dont like is how you cant paste a url into the quick connect bar.
    what is up with that
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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to All on Friday, August 09, 2019 18:39:29
    Re: Re: Hi!
    By: Calloway to MRO on Fri Aug 09 2019 12:30 pm

    rip sucks anyways, usually. i think i've only seen one cool rip bbs in
    my lifetime.

    Check out blackflag.acid.org:24 with your favorite Rip software. This is the way BBSin was supposed to be.

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  • From Milton@VERT/CRAZYW to HusTler on Friday, August 09, 2019 22:20:02
    Re: Re: Hi!
    By: HusTler to Dr. What on Tue Aug 06 2019 16:47:38

    Particles BBS runs on port 6400. Netrunner only supports port 23 so you couldn't have connected to Particles BBS with Netrunner anyway.

    Netrunner does support other ports. Just use the ":" + "poert#".
    example - bbs.net:6400

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  • From Bbsing.Bbs@VERT/EWBBS to HusTler on Monday, August 12, 2019 21:06:00
    HusTler wrote to All <=-

    Re: Re: Hi!
    By: Calloway to MRO on Fri Aug 09 2019 12:30 pm

    rip sucks anyways, usually. i think i've only seen one cool rip bbs in
    my lifetime.

    Check out blackflag.acid.org:24 with your favorite Rip software.
    This is the way BBSin was supposed to be.

    What is that address, port 24?
    Is this a video stream ?


    BBSING

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Bbsing.Bbs on Tuesday, August 13, 2019 09:41:02
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Bbsing.Bbs to HusTler on Mon Aug 12 2019 09:06 pm

    Check out blackflag.acid.org:24 with your favorite Rip software.
    This is the way BBSin was supposed to be.

    What is that address, port 24?
    Is this a video stream ?

    It's a very very nice Searchlight BBS running RIPScRIPT. You will need windows and Riptel software to connect.

    ... The brain is as strong as its weakest think.

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to HusTler on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 08:11:00
    On 08-13-19 09:41, HusTler wrote to Bbsing.Bbs <=-

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    Re: Re: rip
    By: Bbsing.Bbs to HusTler on Mon Aug 12 2019 09:06 pm

    Check out blackflag.acid.org:24 with your favorite Rip software.
    This is the way BBSin was supposed to be.

    What is that address, port 24?
    Is this a video stream ?

    It's a very very nice Searchlight BBS running RIPScRIPT. You will need windows and Riptel software to connect.

    Must check that out sometime. :)


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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Vk3jed on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 09:06:29
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Vk3jed to HusTler on Wed Aug 14 2019 08:11 am

    Check out blackflag.acid.org:24 with your favorite Rip software.
    This is the way BBSin was supposed to be.
    What is that address, port 24?
    Is this a video stream ?

    It's a very very nice Searchlight BBS running RIPScRIPT. You will
    need windows and Riptel software to connect.

    Must check that out sometime. :)

    I forgot to mention is has the worlds first and only LORD game in full Rip Script. Very Very cool. It brings a whole new meaning to "BBS". If you want to see what a nice Ansi board looks like check out blackflag.acid.org on port 23.
    Just tell Hawk Hubbard HusTler sent ya.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to HusTler on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 16:15:51
    Re: Re: rip
    By: HusTler to Vk3jed on Wed Aug 14 2019 09:06 am

    I forgot to mention is has the worlds first and only LORD game in full Rip Script. Very Very cool. It brings a whole new meaning to "BBS". If you want

    i wouldnt mention that because that's not true. anybody with lordico and a ripscript terminal can play lord in rip.
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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to HusTler on Thursday, August 15, 2019 13:55:00
    On 08-14-19 09:06, HusTler wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I forgot to mention is has the worlds first and only LORD game in full Rip Script. Very Very cool. It brings a whole new meaning to "BBS". If
    you want to see what a nice Ansi board looks like check out blackflag.acid.org on port 23. Just tell Hawk Hubbard HusTler sent ya.

    Interesting, as far as the tech and concept goes. I was never one for the games myself, but still think having them in RIP would enhance the experience.

    Now I need more time for BBSing. :D


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  • From Hustler@VERT/CBLISS to MRO on Thursday, August 15, 2019 09:11:51
    Re: Re: rip
    By: MRO to HusTler on Wed Aug 14 2019 16:15:51


    i wouldnt mention that because that's not true. anybody with lordico ripscript terminal can play lord in rip.

    Have you been a dick all your life?? Do you ever have anything nice to say?
    Regards,
    HusTler
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Thursday, August 15, 2019 09:53:26
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Vk3jed to HusTler on Thu Aug 15 2019 01:55 pm

    Interesting, as far as the tech and concept goes. I was never one for the games myself, but still think having them in RIP would enhance the experience.

    Lately I've felt a bit mixed about that. RIP is cool, but when I think about RIP ehnahcing the experience, RIP was basically just a next logical step, creating a GUI for a BBS user interface. Other things then came around to take that further - PC games (using the full graphics capability of the PC) added multi-player capability on networks, and then on the internet. So in a way, we've had a continuation of that technology already. But I still think BBS technology is interesting.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Hustler on Thursday, August 15, 2019 22:12:13
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Hustler to MRO on Thu Aug 15 2019 09:11 am

    Re: Re: rip
    By: MRO to HusTler on Wed Aug 14 2019 16:15:51


    i wouldnt mention that because that's not true. anybody with lordico ripscript terminal can play lord in rip.

    Have you been a dick all your life?? Do you ever have anything nice to say?
    Regards,


    what, are you captain fucking questions. is it your job to be a child who asks 20 questions a day?

    why dont you get rectal cancer and commit suicide.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Thursday, August 15, 2019 22:13:18
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Nightfox to Vk3jed on Thu Aug 15 2019 09:53 am

    Re: Re: rip
    By: Vk3jed to HusTler on Thu Aug 15 2019 01:55 pm

    Interesting, as far as the tech and concept goes. I was never one for t games myself, but still think having them in RIP would enhance the experience.

    Lately I've felt a bit mixed about that. RIP is cool, but when I think abou RIP ehnahcing the experience, RIP was basically just a next logical step,


    lets be honest here. rip is fucking ugly and people didnt use it that much because it sucks.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Thursday, August 15, 2019 21:02:57
    Re: Re: rip
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Aug 15 2019 10:13 pm

    lets be honest here. rip is fucking ugly and people didnt use it that much because it sucks.

    someone looks at it once and thinks it's different but they never stick to it.

    The vector format had some promise:
    http://wiki.synchro.net/history:museum:rip

    But by today's standards, looks aged.

    The choice of EGA resolution, colors and those horrible fonts cursed RIP, I think.

    digital man

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Friday, August 16, 2019 19:51:00
    On 08-15-19 09:53, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    @VIA: VERT/DIGDIST
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Vk3jed to HusTler on Thu Aug 15 2019 01:55 pm

    Interesting, as far as the tech and concept goes. I was never one for the games myself, but still think having them in RIP would enhance the experience.

    Lately I've felt a bit mixed about that. RIP is cool, but when I think about RIP ehnahcing the experience, RIP was basically just a next
    logical step, creating a GUI for a BBS user interface. Other things
    then came around to take that further - PC games (using the full
    graphics capability of the PC) added multi-player capability on
    networks, and then on the internet. So in a way, we've had a
    continuation of that technology already. But I still think BBS
    technology is interesting.

    BBS technology is certainly a different beast. One thing is because of its origins, it's very data efficient - a little data goes a long way, unlike today's web based technologies, which often transfer gobs of data to do some small thing.


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  • From Brokenmind@VERT/TIABBS to Vk3jed on Friday, August 16, 2019 12:58:31
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Fri Aug 16 2019 07:51 pm

    I remember Rip along time back but I don't have a client and i may be wrong i don't think syncterm or netrunner support rips but i remember a bbs software i played around with called Roboboard and it had some great features and the rip screens were really neat and for me seemed out of the future... if anyone knows of any rip terminal that support windows 10 64bit I would love to get ahold of it so i can check out synchronet with it's rip menus

    BrokenMind

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Friday, August 16, 2019 09:38:01
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Fri Aug 16 2019 07:51 pm

    BBS technology is certainly a different beast. One thing is because of its origins, it's very data efficient - a little data goes a long way, unlike today's web based technologies, which often transfer gobs of data to do some small thing.

    Yeah, that reminds me of how WYSIWYG web page editors would always produce a lot more HTML than was really necessary. I'm not sure if people still use WYSIWIG editors anymore for making web sites, or if they've gotten more efficient..

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Friday, August 16, 2019 10:13:51
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Thu Aug 15 2019 09:02 pm

    But by today's standards, looks aged.

    The choice of EGA resolution, colors and those horrible fonts cursed RIP, I think.

    I remember there being another GUI protocol for BBSes, called RoboBoard. I think RoboBoard was actually the name of a BBS software package, rather than a common BBS standard like RIP. And you had to use a special terminal program compatible with RoboBoard BBSes. I remember RoboBoard looking better than RIP.

    Wikipedia says RoboBoard used 1024x768 16/256-color SVGA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoboBOARD/FX

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Brokenmind on Friday, August 16, 2019 10:15:42
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Brokenmind to Vk3jed on Fri Aug 16 2019 12:58 pm

    I remember Rip along time back but I don't have a client and i may be wrong i don't think syncterm or netrunner support rips but i remember a bbs software i played around with called Roboboard and it had some great features and the rip screens were really neat and for me seemed out of the

    RoboBoard was its own BBS package and used its own GUI protocol. RoboBoard wasn't RIP.

    Nightfox

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Brokenmind on Saturday, August 17, 2019 06:53:00
    On 08-16-19 12:58, Brokenmind wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    @VIA: VERT/TIABBS
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Fri Aug 16 2019 07:51 pm

    I remember Rip along time back but I don't have a client and i may be wrong i don't think syncterm or netrunner support rips but i remember a bbs software i played around with called Roboboard and it had some
    great features and the rip screens were really neat and for me seemed
    out of the future... if anyone knows of any rip terminal that support windows 10 64bit I would love to get ahold of it so i can check out synchronet with it's rip menus

    I'm going to try RIPTerm in DOSBox, when I get a chance. My main desktop is also 64bit Windows, so I have similar issues running software that old.


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Saturday, August 17, 2019 06:54:00
    On 08-16-19 09:38, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    @VIA: VERT/DIGDIST
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Fri Aug 16 2019 07:51 pm

    BBS technology is certainly a different beast. One thing is because of its origins, it's very data efficient - a little data goes a long way, unlike today's web based technologies, which often transfer gobs of data to do some small thing.

    Yeah, that reminds me of how WYSIWYG web page editors would always
    produce a lot more HTML than was really necessary. I'm not sure if
    people still use WYSIWIG editors anymore for making web sites, or if they've gotten more efficient..

    Yep They sure did. I think a lot these days use a CMS based platform, for ease of use.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Friday, August 16, 2019 16:20:56
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Thu Aug 15 2019 09:02 pm

    The vector format had some promise: http://wiki.synchro.net/history:museum:rip

    But by today's standards, looks aged.

    The choice of EGA resolution, colors and those horrible fonts cursed RIP, I think.



    rip was something that looked like it could be used well, but didnt work out in the end. even now i see those rip graphics and they look pretty decent. but rip didnt go well with bbses. it could also be telegraffix and other factors that held it back.
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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Nightfox on Friday, August 16, 2019 17:44:25
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Nightfox to Brokenmind on Fri Aug 16 2019 10:15 am

    Here's two links that pretty much tell the story of Rip. Before the "Browser Wars" the entire industry was trying to "corner the market" with various image viewers web viewers etc. The inventor of RIP formed a company called Telegrafix Communications. More info is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_Imaging_Protocol

    This is a link explaining what RIP is and what it's not: http://www.bbsdocumentary.com/library/PROGRAMS/GRAPHICS/RIPSCRIPT/whitepap.htm

    Rip can be compared to Ansi screens. Both are made by "artists" there are good ansi artists and bad ones. Good ansi's and bad ones. Same with Rip screens. There are good Ripscript artists and bad ones. The great artists make great Ansi and Rip screens. You need to check out a Rip BBS done with great Rip art before you can say stupid shit like "rip sucks". (MRO) Rip was also developed when most BBS's were connected via phone lines. A good Rip screen was FAST compared to Ansi screens and also had mouse support. Not only that it all ran under DOS! All this over a phone line with a 2400 baud modem.

    HusTler

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  • From Arelor@VERT to All on Friday, August 16, 2019 15:15:14
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Nightfox to Vk3jed on Fri Aug 16 2019 09:38 am

    Re: Re: rip
    By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Fri Aug 16 2019 07:51 pm
    Yeah, that reminds me of how WYSIWYG web page editors would always produce a lot more HTML
    than
    was really necessary. I'm not sure if people still use WYSIWIG editors anymore for making
    web
    sites, or if they've gotten more efficient..

    Nightfox

    I am not big on web development by any means, but what I have seen so far is people being taught to run a CMS or use a framework (such as Angular). My own hobby sites are created by using static site generators and brutally tweaing the templates, which sort of count as CMSing.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Vk3jed on Friday, August 16, 2019 15:47:02
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Vk3jed to Brokenmind on Sat Aug 17 2019 06:53 am

    On 08-16-19 12:58, Brokenmind wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    @VIA: VERT/TIABBS
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Fri Aug 16 2019 07:51 pm

    I remember Rip along time back but I don't have a client and i may be wrong i don't think syncterm or netrunner support rips but i remember a bbs software i played around with called Roboboard and it had some great features and the rip screens were really neat and for me seemed out of the future... if anyone knows of any rip terminal that support windows 10 64bit I would love to get ahold of it so i can check out synchronet with it's rip menus

    I'm going to try RIPTerm in DOSBox, when I get a chance. My main desktop is also 64bit Windows, so I have similar issues running software that old.

    RIPtel seems to work fine on Win10-64.

    digital man

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Friday, August 16, 2019 16:18:08
    Re: Re: rip
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Fri Aug 16 2019 04:20 pm

    rip was something that looked like it could be used well, but didnt work out in the end. even now i see those rip graphics and they look pretty decent. but rip didnt go well with bbses. it could also be telegraffix and other factors that held it back.

    I always thought timing was a big factor. I think RIP was coming around when the internet was just barely starting to get popular. And I thought as people moved toward using the internet, there was more GUI-based internet software (for Windows and such) than text-based. I think a lot of people started abandoning BBSes around that time, so there wasn't much good RIP art produced.

    Nightfox

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Digital Man on Saturday, August 17, 2019 11:04:00
    On 08-16-19 15:47, Digital Man wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    RIPtel seems to work fine on Win10-64.

    Hmm, can't get it to install on 64 bit Windows 7. :(


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Saturday, August 17, 2019 11:12:00
    On 08-16-19 16:18, Nightfox wrote to MRO <=-

    I always thought timing was a big factor. I think RIP was coming
    around when the internet was just barely starting to get popular. And
    I thought as people moved toward using the internet, there was more GUI-based internet software (for Windows and such) than text-based. I think a lot of people started abandoning BBSes around that time, so
    there wasn't much good RIP art produced.

    Had RIP come around 5 years earlier, or the Internet became popular 5 years later, the RIP story could have had a very different outcome. I liked the idea, but at the time, the availability wasn't sufficient for me to invest time/money in RIP. :(


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to HusTler on Saturday, August 17, 2019 11:47:44
    Re: Re: rip
    By: HusTler to Vk3jed on Wed Aug 14 2019 09:06 am

    Re: Re: rip
    By: Vk3jed to HusTler on Wed Aug 14 2019 08:11 am

    Check out blackflag.acid.org:24 with your favorite Rip software.
    This is the way BBSin was supposed to be.

    Hmm, I tried to connect using RIPTerm under DOSBox (ATDT blackflag.acid.org:24 using the virtual modem in DOSBox). I got a message saying "portscanner detected" and got dumped. :(

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Saturday, August 17, 2019 00:00:04
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Fri Aug 16 2019 04:18 pm

    Re: Re: rip
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Fri Aug 16 2019 04:20 pm

    rip was something that looked like it could be used well, but didnt wor out in the end. even now i see those rip graphics and they look pretty decent. but rip didnt go well with bbses. it could also be telegraffix other factors that held it back.

    I always thought timing was a big factor. I think RIP was coming around whe the internet was just barely starting to get popular. And I thought as peop moved toward using the internet, there was more GUI-based internet software (for Windows and such) than text-based. I think a lot of people started abandoning BBSes around that time, so there wasn't much good RIP art produce



    the way the company did business wasnt the greatest. there was a lack of decent freeware rip drawers. and you needed a client that handled rip. these all played into it.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Vk3jed on Saturday, August 17, 2019 00:02:12
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Vk3jed to Digital Man on Sat Aug 17 2019 11:04 am

    On 08-16-19 15:47, Digital Man wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    RIPtel seems to work fine on Win10-64.

    Hmm, can't get it to install on 64 bit Windows 7. :(


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    i just installed some copy of it and it has black flag in the dialing dir and it works.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Vk3jed on Saturday, August 17, 2019 00:07:24
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Vk3jed to HusTler on Sat Aug 17 2019 11:47 am

    Re: Re: rip
    By: HusTler to Vk3jed on Wed Aug 14 2019 09:06 am

    Re: Re: rip
    By: Vk3jed to HusTler on Wed Aug 14 2019 08:11 am

    Check out blackflag.acid.org:24 with your favorite Rip software.
    This is the way BBSin was supposed to be.

    Hmm, I tried to connect using RIPTerm under DOSBox (ATDT blackflag.acid.org: using the virtual modem in DOSBox). I got a message saying "portscanner detected" and got dumped. :(


    your isp must be in the net2bbs shit list
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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to MRO on Saturday, August 17, 2019 18:33:00
    On 08-17-19 00:02, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    i just installed some copy of it and it has black flag in the dialing
    dir and it works.

    You ran the installer? Or was it in an archive format that could be unpacked with a separate archiver? The installer I have insisted on Windows, but being 16 bit, it wouldn't run under my Windows. :( Unless Windows 10 can run 16 but Windows installers that 7 can't.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Saturday, August 17, 2019 11:12:48
    Re: Re: rip
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Sat Aug 17 2019 12:00 am

    the way the company did business wasnt the greatest. there was a lack of decent freeware rip drawers. and you needed a client that handled rip. these all played into it.

    Did RIP have a license fee or something? It seemed like RIP was a standard across different software (similar to ANSI), and I remember there being a few different RIP clients available. I don't remember much about RIP drawing programs.. But even some of the best ANSI drawing programs (like TheDraw) was shareware.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Vk3jed on Saturday, August 17, 2019 13:20:03
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Vk3jed to MRO on Sat Aug 17 2019 06:33 pm

    On 08-17-19 00:02, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    i just installed some copy of it and it has black flag in the dialing dir and it works.

    You ran the installer? Or was it in an archive format that could be unpacke with a separate archiver? The installer I have insisted on Windows, but bei 16 bit, it wouldn't run under my Windows. :( Unless Windows 10 can run 16 b Windows installers that 7 can't.


    I have some msi. looks like i got it 3 years ago. http://bbses.info/_files/tmp.msi
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Saturday, August 17, 2019 13:57:16
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Sat Aug 17 2019 11:12 am

    Re: Re: rip
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Sat Aug 17 2019 12:00 am

    the way the company did business wasnt the greatest. there was a lack o decent freeware rip drawers. and you needed a client that handled rip. these all played into it.

    Did RIP have a license fee or something? It seemed like RIP was a standard across different software (similar to ANSI), and I remember there being a fe different RIP clients available. I don't remember much about RIP drawing programs.. But even some of the best ANSI drawing programs (like TheDraw) w shareware.


    i cant remember much , but the software was proprietary and the shareware software and free software they had wasnt so hot.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Saturday, August 17, 2019 14:02:46
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Vk3jed to MRO on Sat Aug 17 2019 06:33 pm

    Windows, but being 16 bit, it wouldn't run under my Windows. :( Unless Windows 10 can run 16 but Windows installers that 7 can't.

    Normally, 64-bit Windows won't run any 16-bit software. I don't think that changed with Windows 10.

    Nightfox

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to MRO on Sunday, August 18, 2019 07:38:00
    On 08-17-19 13:20, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I have some msi. looks like i got it 3 years ago. http://bbses.info/_files/tmp.msi

    Ahh OK, I haven't seen the MSI version before. The one I found online was a .exe. Thanks. :)


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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Vk3jed on Saturday, August 17, 2019 21:57:01
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Vk3jed to MRO on Sun Aug 18 2019 07:38 am

    Ahh OK, I haven't seen the MSI version before. The one I found online was a .exe. Thanks. :)

    You can Dl Riptel at http://blackflag.acid.org

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Saturday, August 17, 2019 10:35:00
    Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Yeah, that reminds me of how WYSIWYG web page editors would always
    produce a lot more HTML than was really necessary. I'm not sure if
    people still use WYSIWIG editors anymore for making web sites, or if they've gotten more efficient..

    I once knocked up a quick-and-dirty page for the BBS using Microsoft Word and Save-to-HTML. I was shocked at the amount of cruft I hacked out when I redid the page by hand...


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Vk3jed on Saturday, August 17, 2019 10:37:00
    Vk3jed wrote to Brokenmind <=-

    I'm going to try RIPTerm in DOSBox, when I get a chance. My main
    desktop is also 64bit Windows, so I have similar issues running
    software that old.

    There's a lot to be said for running a virtual machine inside of your
    machine for old OSes. VMWare Player is free, and VirtualBox is free
    (although newer versions won't support 32-bit guests...)

    Proxmox, QEMU, even DOSBOX can run Windows 3.11!


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to HusTler on Saturday, August 17, 2019 23:00:50
    Re: Re: rip
    By: HusTler to Vk3jed on Sat Aug 17 2019 09:57 pm

    Re: Re: rip
    By: Vk3jed to MRO on Sun Aug 18 2019 07:38 am

    Ahh OK, I haven't seen the MSI version before. The one I found online w a .exe. Thanks. :)

    You can Dl Riptel at http://blackflag.acid.org


    that link i gave him is the same thing
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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Sunday, August 18, 2019 12:42:00
    On 08-17-19 14:02, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Normally, 64-bit Windows won't run any 16-bit software. I don't think that changed with Windows 10.

    Going by MOR's reply to me, and the file he sent the link to, looks like someone packaged it into a .MSI. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to poindexter FORTRAN on Sunday, August 18, 2019 15:05:00
    On 08-17-19 10:37, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    There's a lot to be said for running a virtual machine inside of your machine for old OSes. VMWare Player is free, and VirtualBox is free (although newer versions won't support 32-bit guests...)

    Proxmox, QEMU, even DOSBOX can run Windows 3.11!

    Yeah, I was considering installing Windows 3.11 under DOSBox. Have to see if I have the installation files somewhere. :)


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Vk3jed on Sunday, August 18, 2019 07:39:00
    Vk3jed wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    Yeah, I was considering installing Windows 3.11 under DOSBox. Have to
    see if I have the installation files somewhere. :)

    They're available online. There was an interesting article about a photographer who wanted to be able to take photos to his clients and do some basic manipulations on-site. He used an Android tablet, DOSBOX, Windows for Workgroups and Photoshop 4.0. PS4 has quite a bit of the basic
    functionality; I used PS6 for a long time and didn't miss the advanced features with my limited skills.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Sunday, August 18, 2019 14:11:45
    Re: Re: rip
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Sat Aug 17 2019 10:35 am

    Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Yeah, that reminds me of how WYSIWYG web page editors would always produce a lot more HTML than was really necessary. I'm not sure if people still use WYSIWIG editors anymore for making web sites, or if they've gotten more efficient..

    I once knocked up a quick-and-dirty page for the BBS using Microsoft Word and Save-to-HTML. I was shocked at the amount of cruft I hacked out when I redid the page by hand...



    back before i was using freeware themes and changing them by hand, i used to use all that wysiwyg junk. so much garbage would build and build upon itself. it would go on until the program would be confused and not render correctly.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to all on Sunday, August 18, 2019 14:21:15
    Re: Re: rip
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Vk3jed on Sat Aug 17 2019 10:37 am

    Vk3jed wrote to Brokenmind <=-

    I'm going to try RIPTerm in DOSBox, when I get a chance. My main desktop is also 64bit Windows, so I have similar issues running software that old.

    There's a lot to be said for running a virtual machine inside of your machine for old OSes. VMWare Player is free, and VirtualBox is free (although newer versions won't support 32-bit guests...)

    Proxmox, QEMU, even DOSBOX can run Windows 3.11!



    i have electro's bbs termbox if anybody wants it. it has the old dos ripterm.

    it's not playing nice with blackflag though.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Vk3jed on Sunday, August 18, 2019 14:21:48
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Sun Aug 18 2019 12:42 pm

    On 08-17-19 14:02, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Normally, 64-bit Windows won't run any 16-bit software. I don't think that changed with Windows 10.

    Going by MOR's reply to me, and the file he sent the link to, looks like someone packaged it into a .MSI. :)



    the one i linked works on win10. it's windows
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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Nightfox on Sunday, August 18, 2019 21:29:54
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Nightfox to Vk3jed on Fri Aug 16 2019 09:38 am

    Yeah, that reminds me of how WYSIWYG web page editors would always produce a lot more HTML than was really necessary. I'm not sure if people still use WYSIWIG editors anymore for making web sites, or if they've gotten more efficient..


    I used to use wysiwyg in the late 90's but you're right it made the html to bulky.

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to poindexter FORTRAN on Monday, August 19, 2019 17:31:00
    On 08-18-19 07:39, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    @VIA: VERT/REALITY
    Vk3jed wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    Yeah, I was considering installing Windows 3.11 under DOSBox. Have to
    see if I have the installation files somewhere. :)

    They're available online. There was an interesting article about a

    Must grab a copy. If nothing else, it would be an interesting technical exercise. :)

    photographer who wanted to be able to take photos to his clients and do some basic manipulations on-site. He used an Android tablet, DOSBOX, Windows for Workgroups and Photoshop 4.0. PS4 has quite a bit of the
    basic functionality; I used PS6 for a long time and didn't miss the advanced features with my limited skills.

    Yeah PS4 would probably be all I need too. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to MRO on Monday, August 19, 2019 17:32:00
    On 08-18-19 14:21, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    the one i linked works on win10. it's windows

    Works on 64 bit Windows 7. It is a 32 bit Windows app. Had a lengthy RIP session last night. Thanks again. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to MRO on Monday, August 19, 2019 18:40:00
    On 08-18-19 14:21, MRO wrote to all <=-

    i have electro's bbs termbox if anybody wants it. it has the old dos ripterm.

    it's not playing nice with blackflag though.

    Yeah RIPTerm and blackflag wouldn't get along for me, but RIPTel works perfectly.


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Vk3jed on Monday, August 19, 2019 02:07:52
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Vk3jed to MRO on Mon Aug 19 2019 06:40 pm

    On 08-18-19 14:21, MRO wrote to all <=-

    i have electro's bbs termbox if anybody wants it. it has the old dos ripterm.

    it's not playing nice with blackflag though.

    Yeah RIPTerm and blackflag wouldn't get along for me, but RIPTel works perfectly.

    And RIPTerm was the staple, so that tells ya that they didn't achieve backwards compatibility very well - another problem for RIP. At least there's *one* good demo BBS of what was possible for a dedicated and talented sysop (or team)!

    digital man

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Digital Man on Tuesday, August 20, 2019 20:58:00
    On 08-19-19 02:07, Digital Man wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    And RIPTerm was the staple, so that tells ya that they didn't achieve backwards compatibility very well - another problem for RIP. At least there's *one* good demo BBS of what was possible for a dedicated and talented sysop (or team)!

    The issue I have with RIPTerm is the BBS complains that I'm running a portscanner when I connect (using DOSBox's virtual modem).


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  • From Brokenmind@VERT/TIABBS to Nightfox on Wednesday, August 21, 2019 11:57:55
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Nightfox to Brokenmind on Fri Aug 16 2019 10:15 am

    Re: Re: rip
    By: Brokenmind to Vk3jed on Fri Aug 16 2019 12:58 pm

    I remember Rip along time back but I don't have a client and i may be wrong i don't think syncterm or netrunner support rips but i remember a bbs software i played around with called Roboboard and it had some grea features and the rip screens were really neat and for me seemed out of

    RoboBoard was its own BBS package and used its own GUI protocol. RoboBoard wasn't RIP.

    Nightfox

    Thank you for correcting me that was my first experince with rip.

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  • From Brokenmind@VERT/TIABBS to Vk3jed on Wednesday, August 21, 2019 11:58:56
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Vk3jed to Brokenmind on Sat Aug 17 2019 06:53 am

    On 08-16-19 12:58, Brokenmind wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    @VIA: VERT/TIABBS
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Fri Aug 16 2019 07:51 pm

    I remember Rip along time back but I don't have a client and i may be wrong i don't think syncterm or netrunner support rips but i remember a bbs software i played around with called Roboboard and it had some great features and the rip screens were really neat and for me seemed out of the future... if anyone knows of any rip terminal that support windows 10 64bit I would love to get ahold of it so i can check out synchronet with it's rip menus

    I'm going to try RIPTerm in DOSBox, when I get a chance. My main desktop is also 64bit Windows, so I have similar issues running software that old.


    ... Money is better than poverty, if only for financial reasons.

    I will also see if i also can get that up and running useing ripterm

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  • From Brokenmind@VERT/TIABBS to Digital Man on Wednesday, August 21, 2019 11:59:49
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Digital Man to Vk3jed on Fri Aug 16 2019 03:47 pm

    Re: Re: rip
    By: Vk3jed to Brokenmind on Sat Aug 17 2019 06:53 am

    On 08-16-19 12:58, Brokenmind wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    @VIA: VERT/TIABBS
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Fri Aug 16 2019 07:51 pm

    I remember Rip along time back but I don't have a client and i may b wrong i don't think syncterm or netrunner support rips but i remembe bbs software i played around with called Roboboard and it had some great features and the rip screens were really neat and for me seeme out of the future... if anyone knows of any rip terminal that suppor windows 10 64bit I would love to get ahold of it so i can check out synchronet with it's rip menus

    I'm going to try RIPTerm in DOSBox, when I get a chance. My main desktop also 64bit Windows, so I have similar issues running software that old.

    RIPtel seems to work fine on Win10-64.

    digital man

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    Thanks DM i will download that and give it a spin

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Brokenmind on Wednesday, August 21, 2019 12:30:58
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Brokenmind to Nightfox on Wed Aug 21 2019 11:57 am

    RoboBoard was its own BBS package and used its own GUI protocol.
    RoboBoard wasn't RIP.

    Thank you for correcting me that was my first experince with rip.

    As I said, RoboBoard wasn't RIP.. :P

    Nightfox

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  • From Mickey@VERT/CENTRALO to Brokenmind on Wednesday, August 21, 2019 20:18:00
    On 21 Aug 2019, Brokenmind said the following...

    I'm going to try RIPTerm in DOSBox, when I get a chance. My main deskt also 64bit Windows, so I have similar issues running software that old.


    If you haven't yet, pick up RIPterm. I'm using it now.

    Mick

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Brokenmind on Thursday, August 22, 2019 09:51:00
    On 08-21-19 11:58, Brokenmind wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I will also see if i also can get that up and running useing ripterm

    Blackflag didn't lime me running RIPTerm in DOSBox. It complained that I was running a portscanner. But RIPTel works perfectly.


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  • From Thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to Vk3jed on Wednesday, August 21, 2019 10:02:00
    I remember Rip along time back but I don't have a client and i may be wrong i don't think syncterm or netrunner support rips but i remember a bbs software i played around with called Roboboard and it had some
    great features and the rip screens were really neat and for me seemed
    out of the future... if anyone knows of any rip terminal that support windows 10 64bit I would love to get ahold of it so i can check out synchronet with it's rip menus

    I'm going to try RIPTerm in DOSBox, when I get a chance. My main
    desktop is also 64bit Windows, so I have similar issues running
    software that old.

    I found RipTel on the Synchronet website that works fine on my 64 Bit
    Windows machine. http://wiki.synchro.net/resource:term


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  • From Brokenmind@VERT/TIABBS to Mickey on Thursday, August 22, 2019 21:28:45
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Mickey to Brokenmind on Wed Aug 21 2019 08:18 pm

    On 21 Aug 2019, Brokenmind said the following...

    I'm going to try RIPTerm in DOSBox, when I get a chance. My main de also 64bit Windows, so I have similar issues running software that o


    If you haven't yet, pick up RIPterm. I'm using it now.

    Mick

    I picked up a copy yesterday and created an account on BlackFlag.... it was an awsome experince it brought back a lot of memories. The SysOp really out did themselves

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Thumper on Friday, August 23, 2019 08:53:00
    On 08-21-19 10:02, Thumper wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I found RipTel on the Synchronet website that works fine on my 64 Bit Windows machine. http://wiki.synchro.net/resource:term

    MRO put me onto the 32 bit RIPTel, which works really well on Win64.


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Brokenmind on Friday, August 23, 2019 18:33:00
    On 08-22-19 21:28, Brokenmind wrote to Mickey <=-

    I picked up a copy yesterday and created an account on BlackFlag.... it was an awsome experince it brought back a lot of memories. The SysOp really out did themselves

    Yes, Blackflag looks great. Sysop's done a nice job with the RIP screens.


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  • From Jon Justvig@VERT/STEPPING to Vk3jed on Friday, September 20, 2019 16:27:26
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Vk3jed to HusTler on Wed Aug 14 2019 08:11 am

    On 08-13-19 09:41, HusTler wrote to Bbsing.Bbs <=-

    Check out blackflag.acid.org:24 with your favorite Rip software.

    Must check that out sometime. :)

    After all these years, downloaded RIPTel for the very first time on Win10/64, worked perfectly. Sound, visual effects, graphics...very good. Blackflag definately out did themselves on this one. Great work. +1

    -cr1mson

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Jon Justvig on Saturday, September 21, 2019 16:08:00
    On 09-20-19 16:27, Jon Justvig wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    @VIA: VERT/STEPPING
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Vk3jed to HusTler on Wed Aug 14 2019 08:11 am

    On 08-13-19 09:41, HusTler wrote to Bbsing.Bbs <=-

    Check out blackflag.acid.org:24 with your favorite Rip software.

    Must check that out sometime. :)

    After all these years, downloaded RIPTel for the very first time on Win10/64, worked perfectly. Sound, visual effects, graphics...very
    good. Blackflag definately out did themselves on this one. Great
    work. +1

    Yes, I found RIPTel to be quite good too, and Black Flag looks awesome.


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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Vk3jed on Saturday, September 21, 2019 07:54:15
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Vk3jed to Jon Justvig on Sat Sep 21 2019 04:08 pm

    Check out blackflag.acid.org:24 with your favorite Rip software.
    After all these years, downloaded RIPTel for the very first time on Win10/64, worked perfectly. Sound, visual effects, graphics...very good. Blackflag definately out did themselves on this one. Great work. +1

    Yes, I found RIPTel to be quite good too, and Black Flag looks awesome.

    Makes you wonder where BBSing might have been if the internet hadn't come along. ;-(

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to HusTler on Saturday, September 21, 2019 15:11:54
    Re: Re: rip
    By: HusTler to Vk3jed on Sat Sep 21 2019 07:54 am

    Re: Re: rip
    By: Vk3jed to Jon Justvig on Sat Sep 21 2019 04:08 pm

    Check out blackflag.acid.org:24 with your favorite Rip software.
    After all these years, downloaded RIPTel for the very first time on Win10/64, worked perfectly. Sound, visual effects, graphics...very good. Blackflag definately out did themselves on this one. Great work. +1

    Yes, I found RIPTel to be quite good too, and Black Flag looks awesome.

    Makes you wonder where BBSing might have been if the internet hadn't come along. ;-(


    you mean the WWW. the internet was still around for a long time.

    bigger and better would always happen. bbses were stagnant.
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to HusTler on Saturday, September 21, 2019 15:37:00
    HusTler wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Yes, I found RIPTel to be quite good too, and Black Flag looks awesome.

    Makes you wonder where BBSing might have been if the internet
    hadn't come along. ;-(

    I think everything happens for a reason. The RIP graphics BBSs do
    look nice, but to be honest I prefer the old-fashioned ANSI and
    traditional BBS look. It's what I knew back then and I'm glad
    it's still around.



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  • From MATTHEW MUNSON@VERT/IUTOPIA to HUSTLER on Saturday, September 21, 2019 05:19:00
    Yes, I found RIPTel to be quite good too, and Black Flag looks awesome.

    Makes you wonder where BBSing might have been if the internet hadn't come along. ;-(
    If telegrafix didnt fight against the bbs operators maybe we would of
    had more rip in our lives.

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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to MRO on Saturday, September 21, 2019 22:18:05
    Re: Re: rip
    By: MRO to HusTler on Sat Sep 21 2019 15:11:54

    Makes you wonder where BBSing might have been if the internet hadn't come along. ;-(

    you mean the WWW. the internet was still around for a long time.

    it wasn't the internet back then... it was ARPANET which was later commercialized... instead of access being only colleges. universities, military, and government... it was a way of accessing the brightest brains in the schools and military as a way to study and create new weaponry, delivery systems, navigation, and monitoring systems... a lot came of that collaboration that many didn't realize was actually going on...

    bigger and better would always happen. bbses were stagnant.

    to a point, yes... but if one or two of the graphical formats had taken off, things might be different... i remember that one of the BBS graphic formats wa kinda based on prodigy vector graphics instead of the raster graphics like AOL and similar were using... but, yeah, by then it was too late because there weren't enough BBSes active and coming online to stop the train or at least divert it...

    i'm pretty sure you know this so this is more aimed at others that may not be aware... i'm still surprised everyday when i meet someone that has no idea about 9/11 because they were born after it... kinda makes me feel like an old man but then i look at the wagon i'm sitting in riding down the hill and smile knowing they are still dragging their wagon up the hill :P ;) :)


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to HusTler on Sunday, September 22, 2019 09:34:00
    On 09-21-19 07:54, HusTler wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Yes, I found RIPTel to be quite good too, and Black Flag looks awesome.

    Makes you wonder where BBSing might have been if the internet hadn't come along. ;-(

    Yes, who knows. :)


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to MATTHEW MUNSON on Sunday, September 22, 2019 04:58:10
    Re: Re: rip
    By: MATTHEW MUNSON to HUSTLER on Sat Sep 21 2019 05:19 am

    Yes, I found RIPTel to be quite good too, and Black Flag looks awesome

    Makes you wonder where BBSing might have been if the internet hadn't co along. ;-(
    If telegrafix didnt fight against the bbs operators maybe we would of
    had more rip in our lives.


    well, we are all pirates. plus rip sucks.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Rampage on Sunday, September 22, 2019 05:01:19
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Rampage to MRO on Sat Sep 21 2019 10:18 pm

    Re: Re: rip
    By: MRO to HusTler on Sat Sep 21 2019 15:11:54

    Makes you wonder where BBSing might have been if the internet hadn't come along. ;-(

    you mean the WWW. the internet was still around for a long time.

    it wasn't the internet back then... it was ARPANET which was later commercialized... instead of access being only colleges. universities,


    well 1991 was the web. i dont know if they have determined when arpanet became the internet.
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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to MATTHEW MUNSON on Sunday, September 22, 2019 07:58:22
    Re: Re: rip
    By: MRO to MATTHEW MUNSON on Sun Sep 22 2019 04:58 am

    Makes you wonder where BBSing might have been if the internet hadn't co along. ;-(
    If telegrafix didnt fight against the bbs operators maybe we would of
    had more rip in our lives.

    What do you mean "fight"? You mean charging money for the technology? The way I remember it is they tried to corner the market with the software needed to create Rip Screens.

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  • From echto@VERT/ECHTOBBS to MATTHEW MUNSON on Sunday, September 22, 2019 06:22:58
    Re: Re: rip
    By: MATTHEW MUNSON to HUSTLER on Sat Sep 21 2019 05:19 am

    Yes, I found RIPTel to be quite good too, and Black Flag looks awesome.

    Makes you wonder where BBSing might have been if the internet hadn't come along.
    ;-(
    If telegrafix didnt fight against the bbs operators maybe we would of
    had more rip in our lives.

    IIRC around 1991 - 1993 HTML was being plastered on the cover of every computer related magazine cover in existance. It was downhill for BBSs from there. AOL swept the US. Gateway PC ads were everywhere and the 56.6K modem standard was tettering between two standards. Quite inreresting how 56.6K was figured out. Simply remove all the analog to digital and digital to analog converstions and boom! 56K.

    And MTV still played music videos and the band Stabbing Westward rocked!

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  • From echto@VERT/ECHTOBBS to MRO on Sunday, September 22, 2019 06:25:26
    Re: Re: rip
    By: MRO to MATTHEW MUNSON on Sun Sep 22 2019 04:58 am

    Re: Re: rip
    By: MATTHEW MUNSON to HUSTLER on Sat Sep 21 2019 05:19 am

    Yes, I found RIPTel to be quite good too, and Black Flag looks awesome

    Makes you wonder where BBSing might have been if the internet hadn't co along.
    ;-(
    If telegrafix didnt fight against the bbs operators maybe we would of
    had more rip in our lives.


    well, we are all pirates. plus rip sucks.

    My God, man. Shhhhhhhhh! No. No pirates here. hahaha :)

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to MRO on Sunday, September 22, 2019 06:55:00
    MRO wrote to Rampage <=-

    well 1991 was the web. i dont know if they have determined when arpanet became the internet.

    When was the first well-known *commercial* web site?



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Sunday, September 22, 2019 12:48:16
    Re: Re: rip
    By: MRO to Rampage on Sun Sep 22 2019 05:01 am

    well 1991 was the web. i dont know if they have determined when arpanet became the internet.

    From what I've heard, I thought arpanet slowly grew into the internet over time.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to HusTler on Sunday, September 22, 2019 18:12:22
    Re: Re: rip
    By: HusTler to MATTHEW MUNSON on Sun Sep 22 2019 07:58 am

    Re: Re: rip
    By: MRO to MATTHEW MUNSON on Sun Sep 22 2019 04:58 am

    Makes you wonder where BBSing might have been if the internet had co along. ;-(
    If telegrafix didnt fight against the bbs operators maybe we would of had more rip in our lives.

    What do you mean "fight"? You mean charging money for the technology? The I remember it is they tried to corner the market with the software needed to create Rip Screens.

    they took a hostile stance against bbs sysops.
    also, wanting to make money off of that scene was probably difficult.
    i'm sure the juvenile sysops didnt want to pay for anything.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to echto on Sunday, September 22, 2019 18:15:49
    Re: Re: rip
    By: echto to MATTHEW MUNSON on Sun Sep 22 2019 06:22 am

    IIRC around 1991 - 1993 HTML was being plastered on the cover of every compu related magazine cover in existance. It was downhill for BBSs from there. AO

    that's not my perspective on it. a lot of sysops adopted a bbs VS internet mindset and refused to move forward.

    i tried to give my users email and files from the internet but i did lose a few.

    the internet didnt and never replaced the local bbs community. people would meet eachother at late night restaurants and stuff like that.

    swept the US. Gateway PC ads were everywhere and the 56.6K modem standard wa tettering between two standards. Quite inreresting how 56.6K was figured ou Simply remove all the analog to digital and digital to analog converstions a boom! 56K.
    and boom! not 56k
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Sunday, September 22, 2019 18:16:25
    Re: Re: rip
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to MRO on Sun Sep 22 2019 06:55 am

    MRO wrote to Rampage <=-

    well 1991 was the web. i dont know if they have determined when arpanet became the internet.

    When was the first well-known *commercial* web site?

    i dont know, but some guy probably put something that may or may not be correct on wikipedia
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  • From Lupine Furmen@VERT/FURFOL to MRO on Sunday, September 22, 2019 19:30:04
    Re: Re: rip
    By: MRO to HusTler on Sat Sep 21 2019 15:11:54

    I think that the WWW and online forums were just the natural evolution of BBSs.


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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to MRO on Monday, September 23, 2019 08:49:46
    Re: Re: rip
    By: MRO to Rampage on Sun Sep 22 2019 05:01:19


    you mean the WWW. the internet was still around for a long time.

    it wasn't the internet back then... it was ARPANET which was later commercialized... instead of access being only colleges. universities,

    well 1991 was the web. i dont know if they have determined when arpanet became the internet.

    history.com says this...

    ----- snip -----
    ARPANET adopted TCP/IP on January 1, 1983, and from there researchers began to assemble the "network of networks" that became the modern Internet. The online world then took on a more recognizable form in 1990, when computer scientist Tim Berners-Lee invented the World Wide Web. Dec 18, 2013
    ----- snip -----

    the lead-in of the wikipedia article, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet, contains a lot of information, too... pretty accurate from what i can see...

    ----- snip -----
    The history of the Internet has its origin in the efforts of wide area networking that originated in several computer science laboratories in the United States, United Kingdom, and France.[1] The U.S. Department of Defense awarded contracts as early as the 1960s, including for the development of the ARPANET project, directed by Robert Taylor and managed by Lawrence Roberts. The first message was sent over the ARPANET in 1969 from computer science Professor Leonard Kleinrock's laboratory at University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA) to the second network node at Stanford Research Institute (SRI).

    Packet switching networks such as the NPL network, ARPANET, Merit Network, CYCLADES, and Telenet, were developed in the late 1960s and early 1970s using a variety of communications protocols.[2] Donald Davies first demonstrated packet switching in 1967 at the National Physics Laboratory (NPL) in the UK, which became a testbed for UK research for almost two decades.[3][4] The ARPANET project led to the development of protocols for internetworking, in which multiple separate networks could be joined into a network of networks. The design included concepts from the French CYCLADES project directed by Louis Pouzin.

    In the early 1980s the NSF funded the establishment for national supercomputing centers at several universities, and provided interconnectivity in 1986 with the NSFNET project, which also created network access to the supercomputer sites in the United States from research and education organizations. Commercial Internet service providers (ISPs) began to emerge in the very late 1980s. The ARPANET was decommissioned in 1990. Limited private connections to parts of the Internet by officially commercial entities emerged in several American cities by late 1989 and 1990,[5] and the NSFNET was decommissioned in 1995, removing the last restrictions on the use of the Internet to carry commercial traffic.

    In the 1980s, research at CERN in Switzerland by British computer scientist Tim Berners-Lee resulted in the World Wide Web, linking hypertext documents into an information system, accessible from any node on the network.[6] Since the mid-1990s, the Internet has had a revolutionary impact on culture, commerce, and technology, including the rise of near-instant communication by electronic mail, instant messaging, voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) telephone calls, two-way interactive video calls, and the World Wide Web with its discussion forums, blogs, social networking, and online shopping sites. The research and education community continues to develop and use advanced networks such as JANET in the United Kingdom and Internet2 in the United States. Increasing amounts of data are transmitted at higher and higher speeds over fiber optic networks operating at 1 Gbit/s, 10 Gbit/s, or more. The Internet's takeover of the global communication landscape was almost instant in historical terms: it only communicated 1% of the information flowing through two-way telecommunications networks in the year 1993, already 51% by 2000, and more than 97% of the telecommunicated information by 2007.[7] Today the Internet continues to grow, driven by ever greater amounts of online information, commerce, entertainment, and social networking. However, the future of the global internet may be shaped by regional differences in the world.[8]
    ----- snip -----

    i like this early map of ARPANET, too...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET#/media/File:Arpanet_map_1973.jpg


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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to poindexter FORTRAN on Monday, September 23, 2019 09:01:48
    Re: Re: rip
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to MRO on Sun Sep 22 2019 06:55:00

    well 1991 was the web. i dont know if they have determined when arpanet became the internet.

    When was the first well-known *commercial* web site?

    what do you mean by "commercial"? ones that charged $$$ for access or one that was created by/for a brand?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_founded_before_1995

    looking at the above link, i would guess bloomberg.com in 1993... but there were several others that came out in '83, too... i don't know if the list is chronological or not, though... it isn't alphabetical...


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Rampage on Monday, September 23, 2019 16:24:26
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Rampage to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Sep 23 2019 09:01 am

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_founded_before_1995

    looking at the above link, i would guess bloomberg.com in 1993... but there


    just remember, wikipedia is not always a reliable source and any idiot can edit it.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Monday, September 23, 2019 17:01:53
    Re: Re: rip
    By: MRO to Rampage on Mon Sep 23 2019 04:24 pm

    just remember, wikipedia is not always a reliable source and any idiot can edit it.

    I've noticed that mistakes on Wikipedia seem to get corrected after a short while. At least, I don't think articles there get left forever without any fact-checking by anyone.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Monday, September 23, 2019 22:44:55
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Mon Sep 23 2019 05:01 pm

    Re: Re: rip
    By: MRO to Rampage on Mon Sep 23 2019 04:24 pm

    just remember, wikipedia is not always a reliable source and any idiot edit it.

    I've noticed that mistakes on Wikipedia seem to get corrected after a short while. At least, I don't think articles there get left forever without any fact-checking by anyone.


    there's ways to put entirely false information on wikipedia without it being caught, too.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Monday, September 23, 2019 19:47:00
    From what I've heard, I thought arpanet slowly grew into the internet over time

    There was a bitnet in there somewhere, too.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Monday, September 23, 2019 19:49:00
    they took a hostile stance against bbs sysops.
    also, wanting to make money off of that scene was probably difficult.
    i'm sure the juvenile sysops didnt want to pay for anything.

    There was some graphic thing called max that came out after rip. They were
    ok until you had an issue, then they got real hostile and juvenile. It was
    too bad, too, as it looked promising.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Monday, September 23, 2019 19:51:00
    that's not my perspective on it. a lot of sysops adopted a bbs VS internet mindset and refused to move forward.

    i tried to give my users email and files from the internet but i did lose a few.

    I think it depends where you were maybe. I gave my users email accounts
    and usenet newsgroups, but could not offer any of the GUI bells and
    whistles the web could. Since I had also relocated to an area that was long-distance from where I started, and the new area never really had a bbs scene, that really killed my caller numbers.

    I switched to OS/2 and VMODEM hoping that some of my old callers would
    telnet in, but most of them were already moving on before I moved a couple
    of towns over.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to MRO on Monday, September 23, 2019 06:33:00
    MRO wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    i dont know, but some guy probably put something that may or may not be correct on wikipedia

    I remember a pizza hut taking orders online in 1993 or so; they were down
    the street from Santa Cruz Operation, so they had a vested interest in
    helping them get online... :)


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to MRO on Monday, September 23, 2019 06:42:00
    MRO wrote to echto <=-

    that's not my perspective on it. a lot of sysops adopted a bbs VS internet mindset and refused to move forward.

    i tried to give my users email and files from the internet but i did
    lose a few.

    My callership dropped off precipitously in 1996, but I think it also might have been that our othernet had run its course. &TOTSE was a good test - at one point in 1994, Jeff Hunter had 10 nodes. In 1997, 3.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Tuesday, September 24, 2019 22:35:53
    Re: Re: rip
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to MRO on Mon Sep 23 2019 06:33 am

    MRO wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    i dont know, but some guy probably put something that may or may not be correct on wikipedia

    I remember a pizza hut taking orders online in 1993 or so; they were down the street from Santa Cruz Operation, so they had a vested interest in helping them get online... :)

    i remember my uncle doing all kinds of stuff on qlink. i remember people were doing emoticons like ascii beers.

    it was cool when that stuff was all new to most of us.
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Tuesday, September 24, 2019 21:22:57
    Re: Re: rip
    By: MRO to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Sep 24 2019 10:35 pm

    Re: Re: rip
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to MRO on Mon Sep 23 2019 06:33 am

    MRO wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    i dont know, but some guy probably put something that may or may not be correct on wikipedia

    I remember a pizza hut taking orders online in 1993 or so; they were down the street from Santa Cruz Operation, so they had a vested interest in helping them get online... :)

    i remember my uncle doing all kinds of stuff on qlink. i remember people were doing emoticons like ascii beers.

    And coffee: c[]

    it was cool when that stuff was all new to most of us.

    It was underground, and we loved it. Now we're just struggling to stay *above* ground! :-)

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Wednesday, September 25, 2019 00:00:07
    Re: Re: rip
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Tue Sep 24 2019 09:22 pm


    it was cool when that stuff was all new to most of us.

    It was underground, and we loved it. Now we're just struggling to stay *abov ground! :-)


    i miss meeting new friends with bbses. i dont think it will ever be the same. maybe i feel that way because i'm older, too.
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  • From Lupine Furmen@VERT/FURFOL to poindexter FORTRAN on Thursday, September 26, 2019 12:57:42
    Re: Re: rip
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to MRO on Mon Sep 23 2019 06:33:00

    I remember a pizza hut taking orders online in 1993 or so; they were down

    I remember being able to order Domino's from within a Game. Can't remember which game,, I'm wanting to say "Everquest" but not sure if that is right or not.)

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