I never even bothered getting a driver's license. I took the written test years ago in, like, tenth grade or something, failed, and never touched the process again.
I never even bothered getting a driver's license. I took the written
test years ago in, like, tenth grade or something, failed, and never
touched the process again.
That would be highly unusual, at least here in the continental U.S.
Re: Since you're all talking about cars
By: Digital Man to Pparker on Tue Oct 09 2018 10:45 am
I never even bothered getting a driver's license. I took the written
test years ago in, like, tenth grade or something, failed, and never
touched the process again.
That would be highly unusual, at least here in the continental U.S.
I didn't bother to get my driver's license until I was almost 22. Before that, I usually took public transportation to where I needed to go. I almost forgot I could get my driver's permit when I was 15 and license when I was 16.. I guess it wasn't much of a priority for me at the time. I was in walking distance from my high school and walking distance from where I worked at the time, and when I started college, I happened to live on a street that was part of a bus line that went to my college.
Public transportation is great when it's available (saves the environment and saves you $$$), but in Southern California, at least, public transportation is pretty limited. There are conspiracy theories about how/why that came to be, but it's just a fact. We are a car culture, at least here in (most of) California.
On 10-09-18 00:31, Pparker wrote to All <=-
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I never even bothered getting a driver's license. I took the written
test years ago in, like, tenth grade or something, failed, and never touched the process again.
On 10-09-18 10:45, Digital Man wrote to Pparker <=-
I never even bothered getting a driver's license. I took the written test years ago in, like, tenth grade or something, failed, and never touched the process again.
That would be highly unusual, at least here in the continental U.S.
On 10-09-18 12:00, Nightfox wrote to Digital Man <=-
I didn't bother to get my driver's license until I was almost 22.
Before that, I usually took public transportation to where I needed to
go. I almost forgot I could get my driver's permit when I was 15 and license when I was 16.. I guess it wasn't much of a priority for me at
the time. I was in walking distance from my high school and walking distance from where I worked at the time, and when I started college, I happened to live on a street that was part of a bus line that went to
my college.
On 10-09-18 13:28, Digital Man wrote to Nightfox <=-
Public transportation is great when it's available (saves the
environment and saves you $$$), but in Southern California, at least, public transportation is pretty limited. There are conspiracy theories about how/why that came to be, but it's just a fact. We are a car
culture, at least here in (most of) California.
I never even bothered getting a driver's license. I took the written test years ago in, like, tenth grade or something, failed, and never touched the process again.
Re: Since you're all talking about cars
By: Pparker to All on Tue Oct 09 2018 12:31 am
I never even bothered getting a driver's license. I took the written test years ago in, like, tenth grade or something, failed, and never touched the process again.
That would be highly unusual, at least here in the continental U.S.
where my fiance's father lives [virginia], it's an hour or more drive to get to ANYTHING. and he lives in an affluent area.
On 10-09-18 00:31, Pparker wrote to All <=-
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I never even bothered getting a driver's license. I took the written test years ago in, like, tenth grade or something, failed, and never touched the process again.
Hmm, I never had any issues with the written proccess, even though the pass mark was very high (like > 90% to pass the test). The practical was a bit closer, but I still passed it and haven't looked back.
Re: Since you're all talking about cars
By: MRO to Digital Man on Tue Oct 09 2018 09:52 pm
where my fiance's father lives [virginia], it's an hour or more drive to get to ANYTHING. and he lives in an affluent area.
She should get a paternity test! :-P
I never even bothered getting a driver's license. I took the written test years ago in, like, tenth grade or something, failed, and never touched the process again.
That would be highly unusual, at least here in the continental U.S.
That would be highly unusual, at least here in the continental U.S.
Eh, I know quite a few people, in New York or Philly, that never bothered to get a license because they just didn't need one. I don't really agree with them on that, but I can see how you could get by without one, presuming you don't really go anywhere and have constant access to public transit.
I've never visited New York (I've only had a layover at the JFK airport once), but TV shows and movies tend to portray New York City as having a large number of taxis, and there's the subway system too. Seems to me that one could potentially get by in New York without a driver's license, if you don't mind paying taxi fees and paying for transit tickets a lot.. Not sure how true that would be though.
On 10-09-18 23:28, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
in my state you take a computer test and if you dont pass it you keep going through it. then you take a driving test. anybody can pass this shit.
I never even bothered getting a driver's license. I took the
written test years ago in, like, tenth grade or something, failed,
and never touched the process again.
That would be highly unusual, at least here in the continental U.S.
Similar in Australia, but I do know a number of people who never got their licence for one reason or another.
On 10-10-18 17:38, Zazz wrote to Vk3jed <=-
New York City as an example the majority do not own cars or have a license. If they cannot get to where you want them to via public transportation, then they don't want to go. I know, I was an employer
in a town just outside of the city they were not interested.
Re: Since you're all talking about cars
By: Nightfox to Derision on Wed Oct 10 2018 13:02:55
I've never visited New York (I've only had a layover at the JFK airport once), but TV shows and movies tend to portray New York City as having a large number of taxis, and there's the subway system too. Seems to me that one could potentially get by in New York without a driver's license, if you don't mind paying taxi fees and paying for transit tickets a lot.. Not sure how true that would be though.
I think that the cost of just owning a car in the city would far surpass the costs of relying on public transportation. There are very few places to park a vehicle, and if you can find a garage or something, there are generally exhorbitant fees just to keep the thing there.
Now, I don't like the feeling of being stuck, or not even having the option to use my car, so I don't think I could be without a license... but for people that spend 99% of the time in the middle of a city, where just about everything is within walking distance, it probably isn't that big a deal.
in my state you take a computer test and if you dont pass it you keep going through it. then you take a driving test. anybody can pass this shit.
I don't know how they do the test these days, but when I did it, you had to get 30 or more out of 32 right, or you didn't get your licence and would have to come back another time and re-sit the test. The practical was scored by an assessor, and your points had to add up to a certain value, and you also had to not make any major errors, which were instant failure (things like going through stop signs, red lights, dangerous turns (i.e. failing to give way to traffic), etc.
On 10-14-18 17:57, Derision wrote to Vk3jed <=-
A friend's daughter was recently taking the driving test here in
Jersey. The "written" portion of it definitely was an online test which was simple to pass. Even to cheat on if you really needed to (Google answers in a separate tab or something).
The road test depends largely on the assessor. When this girl took it, despite the fact that she did terribly, the fact that she was a cute blonde and flirted with the dude helped her pass, when someone else might've failed. I don't know if there're any "autofail" situations.
When I took the test, back in the 90s, I remember destroying several
cones because I wasn't used to the dimensions and clearances of the
land yacht Caprice Estate I was taking the test in. The assessor was
just like, "Meh, we've got more of those," and didn't mark me down for
any of it. And I'm not even a cute blonde girl.
When I took the test, back in the 90s, I remember destroying several cones because I wasn't used to the dimensions and clearances of the land yacht Caprice Estate I was taking the test in. The assessor was just like, "Meh, we've got more of those," and didn't mark me down for any of it. And I'm not even a cute blonde girl.
Nightfox wrote to Derision <=-
license, I think there was really only one thing I did 'wrong', I
turned into the far lane when making a turn onto a road with 2 lanes
going each way. But still, I only scored the bare minimum to pass. I
I think I passed my initial test with flying colors. I think I was 16.
I took my motorcycle test when I was in my 30's and failed the field test. I've always found that kind of humorous. The reason being, I only read the motorcycle manual to take my motorcycle test. I thought at the time, I've been driving since I was 15 1/2. I do not need to re-read the driving manual.
What she failed me on was when she had me pull over to the curb on a neighborhood street. I was then supposed to turn my blinker on, as I pulled away from the curb back on to the street. Nobody actually does that on neighborhood roads once they get their license, but it's the law, so I failed because of it.
I think there was really only one thing I did 'wrong', I turned into the far lane when making a turn onto a road with 2 lanes going each way. But still, I only scored the bare minimum to pass. I wasn't sure what else I got marked down for. I'm glad I at least got my license though.
Nightfox wrote to Chai <=-
I've never driven a motorcycle, but I imagine driving a motorcycle
would be a bit different from driving a car. Sometimes I've thought of
getting a motorcycle license and a motorcycle, but I'm not sure I'd
want to bother with having another vehicle to maintain and pay for. I suppose a motorcycle is better on gas, which would be good when the weather is good.
You're at much greater risk of a fatality on the highway with a motorcycle. It's not just that people are not looking out for you, but it is also things like debris in the road, sand leftover from winter de-icing, etc. You have to pay more attention to railroad crossings, as there is a right way and wrong way to drive over the tracks, given you are on a vehicle with two wheels. When it rains (and it hasn't rained in awhile), you have to be careful about the blackened parts of the road, as you're basically driving over an oil slick (especially pulling up to intersections).
expressways. I gave up riding a motorcycle after having a wreck on one. I'd much rather be in a steel cage in an accident.
Yeah, the idea of being at higher risk of injury makes me nervous about using a motorcycle. Aside from the risks you mentioned, I know someone who was badly hurt when he was riding his motorcycle on the highway and a deer jumped out and knocked him over.
Until recently we also had free access to the toll roads (simply because bikes dont have a front number plate and the toll road had a camera that only took/scanned from the front!) Sadly, they upgraded the toll infrastructure to scan from the rear as well.
I believe there are some states in the US where cars are only required to ha a rear license plate. And it seems that there are some cars that just weren designed with a front license plate in mind, and it seems you have to damage the front bumper somehow (by drilling screw holes or installing a mount of s kind) to install a license plate.
It really depends on the motorcycle. I have an uncle that has a Harley that gets around 40MPG. We have hybrids that can do that. Things like scooters tend to be much more fuel efficient, but can't be driven on the expressways. I gave up riding a motorcycle after having a wreck on one. I'd much rather be in a steel cage in an accident.
I do know that most southeastern states of the United States do not require a front tag. I moved to Missouri with a Dodge Stratus that already had a front tag mount already. After the Dodge broke down in the middle of nowhere Alabama (Dothen, I think) I ended up getting rid of the Dodge and getting a Toyota Carolla that was not designed to have a front tag. Once I got back to Missouri, I went to the Toyota dealership to get the front tag put on, the guy just took a "mount" and placed the tag on it, and just screwed the front tag on. Left two holes on the bumper. Once I moved back to South Carilina, I took the front tag off and it left two holes on the bumper becsuse the "mount" wasn't really mounted. Ended up trading the Carolla in with Scion xB that I have now, but it sucked turning it in with those two holes on the bumper.
I ride a motorcycle and this is one thing I don't get. In the sports bike scene, people tend to do everything the REDUCE the gas mileage of their bike. I purchased a used 2003 Yamaha FZ1 and stock, it should get around 50 MPG. The previous owner added several mods that reduced it down to 40 MPG. He added larger tires, changed the sprocket gear ratio, modified the fuel/air mixture, etc. I ended up undoing all of that.
Certainly riding a bike is a higher risk, but the plus side is that you become a better driver (IMHO). While a driver of a car can lose concentration and get away with it (sometimes), a bike rider needs to have the concentration for both themselves and the traffic on the road.
I've never driven a motorcycle, but I imagine driving a motorcycle would be a bit different from driving a car. Sometimes I've thought of
It is. You steer the steering wheel in the opposite direction from the turn. You actually push on the handlebar that's closest to the direction of the
turn, basically.
expressways. I gave up riding a motorcycle after having a wreck on one. I'd much rather be in a steel cage in an accident.
Yeah, the idea of being at higher risk of injury makes me nervous about using a motorcycle. Aside from the risks you mentioned, I know someone who was badly hurt when he was riding his motorcycle on the highway and a deer jumped out and knocked him over.
MRO wrote to Chai <=-
i was driving one in my city and hit a shitty road that had
construction and a hole but no markings as such. went flying and
ripped up my arm good.
went into the nearest bar and ordered 3 big long islands and that was
my last day on a motorcycle.
I believe there are some states in the US where cars are only required to have a rear license plate. And it seems that there are some cars that just weren't designed with a front license plate in mind, and it seems you have to damage the front bumper somehow (by drilling screw holes or installing a mount of some kind) to install a license plate.
Re: Re: Since you're all talk
By: Nightfox to Deon on Tue Oct 16 2018 09:43:50
I believe there are some states in the US where cars are only required to have a rear license plate. And it seems that there are some cars that just weren't designed with a front license plate in mind, and it seems you have to damage the front bumper somehow (by drilling screw holes or installing a mount of some kind) to install a license plate.
Somebody's probably addressed this and I haven't seen the post yet, but yeah... Delaware, Florida, Pennsylvania... most of the southeast, actually, don't require front plates.
Colorado is a state where you are required to have a front license plate. It sucks because I have a 1967 Camaro with no way to mount a front license plate. I could install a bracket, but it looks awful. Anyway, I ended up removing the front license plates from all of my vehicles over a decade ago and no one has complained yet. I'm definitely risking getting a ticket, but the risk is worth it to me. :D
Somebody's probably addressed this and I haven't seen the post yet, but yeah... Delaware, Florida, Pennsylvania... most of the southeast, actually, don't require front plates.
Colorado is a state where you are required to have a front license plate.
It sucks because I have a 1967 Camaro with no way to mount a front license plate. I could install a bracket, but it looks awful. Anyway, I ended up removing the front license plates from all of my vehicles over a decade ago and no one has complained yet. I'm definitely risking getting a ticket, but the risk is worth it to me. :D
The rear plate has more stringent requirements, in that it needs a light, etc. But I think that as long as the front is visible, it doesn't really matter where it's mounted.
The rear plate has more stringent requirements, in that it needs a light, etc. But I think that as long as the front is visible, it doesn't really
I've been pulled over by the police because my rear license plate lights were burned out. Twice. One time 2 police cars pulled me over for one of them to get out and tell me that, and to replace those lights..
I've been pulled over by the police because my rear license plate lights were burned out. Twice. One time 2 police cars pulled me over for one of them to get out and tell me that, and to replace those lights..
I've been pulled over by the police because my rear license plate
lights were burned out. Twice. One time 2 police cars pulled me over
for one of them to get out and tell me that, and to replace those
lights..
the police replaced your bulb?
the police replaced your bulb?
No, they told me to replace the bulbs.
Oh, so have I. I even got a ticket when I *KNEW* that it was working, and was just dirty. I asked to get out so that I could look closer and he wouldn't let me, most likely because he realized it worked the minute he looked closely.
Re: Re: Since you're all talk
By: Derision to Minex on Mon Oct 22 2018 09:15 pm
The rear plate has more stringent requirements, in that it needs a light, etc. But I think that as long as the front is visible, it doesn't really matter where it's mounted.
I've been pulled over by the police because my rear license plate lights were burned out. Twice. One time 2 police cars pulled me over for one of them to get out and tell me that, and to replace those lights..
I've been pulled over by the police because my rear license plate
lights were burned out. Twice. One time 2 police cars pulled me over
for one of them to get out and tell me that, and to replace those
lights..
Damn, that sucks. What state are you in? I've been pretty lucky so far.
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