• Re: Article: Family computers in the 90s

    From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 16:08:35
    Re: Re: Article: Family computers in the 90s
    By: Vk3jed to Jagossel on Thu Aug 16 2018 07:46 am

    Those traits are similar to some of mine. I've known for decades that I'm partiularly good at multiple choice exams, because of a combination of strong recognition abilities and logic. My recall, OTOH is pretty ordinary. I've also found rote learning is inefficient for me. I need to learn the fundamental "rules" for whatever it is that I'm learning, so I can form a mental model of it, before I really start to understand.

    I think that's why I never really was too interested in history classes in school (and things like geography, etc.). I suppose I was interested in learning about it to a point, but it seemed like a lot of it was just rote memorization of things. With math and science, at least there's (often) some amount of logic to it that you can work out (though it can sometimes need some creativity).

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Vk3jed on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 18:41:14
    Re: Re: Article: Family computers in the 90s
    By: Vk3jed to Jagossel on Thu Aug 16 2018 07:46 am

    Those traits are similar to some of mine. I've known for decades that I'm partiularly good at multiple choice exams, because of a combination of strong recognition abilities and logic. My recall, OTOH is pretty ordinary. I've also found rote learning is inefficient for me. I need to learn the fundamental "rules" for whatever it is that I'm learning, so I can form a mental model of it, before I really start to understand.



    i can pass multiple choice exams just by noticing patterns.
    i think multiple choice tests are just a lazy cop out. it's not really testing what a person knows.

    i also am good at cramming and passing tests but that doesnt really mean i retain much when i do it that way.

    so just saying i pretty much wasted my time in highschool and tech school because i was lazy.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 19:45:24
    Re: Re: Article: Family computers in the 90s
    By: Nightfox to Vk3jed on Wed Aug 15 2018 04:08 pm


    I think that's why I never really was too interested in history classes in school (and things like geography, etc.). I suppose I was interested in learning about it to a point, but it seemed like a lot of it was just rote memorization of things. With math and science, at least there's (often) some amount of logic to it that you can work out (though it can sometimes

    you just didnt have the right history teacher. i had the best one after i got out of highschool and he really showed us how interesting history is.
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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Thursday, August 16, 2018 19:39:00
    On 08-15-18 16:08, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I think that's why I never really was too interested in history classes
    in school (and things like geography, etc.). I suppose I was
    interested in learning about it to a point, but it seemed like a lot of
    it was just rote memorization of things. With math and science, at

    Oddly enough, for long and complicated reasons, I have actually got a lot out of history as I've got older. Humans are somewhat predictable, frighteningly so in some ways, and looking at historic trends shows up those patterns on a societal level. As I said, I am _extremely_ sensitive to patterms. :)

    least there's (often) some amount of logic to it that you can work out (though it can sometimes need some creativity).

    True, the patterns of maths and schence are usually more readily visible.


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to MRO on Thursday, August 16, 2018 19:41:00
    On 08-15-18 18:41, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    i can pass multiple choice exams just by noticing patterns.
    i think multiple choice tests are just a lazy cop out. it's not really testing what a person knows.

    I'm the same.

    i also am good at cramming and passing tests but that doesnt really
    mean i retain much when i do it that way.

    so just saying i pretty much wasted my time in highschool and tech
    school because i was lazy.

    I prefer to understand what I'm learning. For me, it's often easier, paradoxically. :)


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Thursday, August 16, 2018 06:34:49
    Re: Re: Article: Family computers in the 90s
    By: Nightfox to Vk3jed on Wed Aug 15 2018 09:44 am

    Yeah, everyone learns differently, and I'm not sure if there's a good one-size-fits-all approach.

    I don't see why there's a need to patent a teaching method, unless your plan is to push an agenda of licensing your *special* brand of teaching to make money
    - not to educate kids.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Thursday, August 16, 2018 09:47:48
    Re: Re: Article: Family computers in the 90s
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Wed Aug 15 2018 07:45 pm

    I think that's why I never really was too interested in history
    classes in school (and things like geography, etc.). I suppose I was
    interested in learning about it to a point, but it seemed like a lot
    of it was just rote memorization of things. With math and science, at
    least there's (often) some amount of logic to it that you can work out
    (though it can sometimes

    you just didnt have the right history teacher. i had the best one after i got out of highschool and he really showed us how interesting history is.

    Perhaps.. I'm not sure I ever had a history teacher that made it more interesting than I thought it was though. In college I took a class one term on the history of China, which I thought was interesting, but I thought it was still a lot of learning about events & people. Also, the teacher said as far as he was concerned, we didn't even have to show up for class if we didn't want to, we could just read from the textbook and come to take the tests if we wanted to do that.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Thursday, August 16, 2018 09:55:04
    Re: Re: Article: Family computers in the 90s
    By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Thu Aug 16 2018 07:39 pm

    Oddly enough, for long and complicated reasons, I have actually got a lot out of history as I've got older. Humans are somewhat predictable, frighteningly so in some ways, and looking at historic trends shows up those patterns on a societal level. As I said, I am _extremely_ sensitive to patterms. :)

    Yeah, I think that's the good thing about learning history. We need to be able to remember what humanity has done in the past.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to poindexter FORTRAN on Thursday, August 16, 2018 09:56:04
    Re: Re: Article: Family computers in the 90s
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Thu Aug 16 2018 06:34 am

    Yeah, everyone learns differently, and I'm not sure if there's a
    good one-size-fits-all approach.

    I don't see why there's a need to patent a teaching method, unless your plan is to push an agenda of licensing your *special* brand of teaching to make money - not to educate kids.

    Eh, patent a teaching plan? Do they actually do that?

    Nightfox

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Friday, August 17, 2018 15:30:00
    On 08-16-18 09:55, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Yeah, I think that's the good thing about learning history. We need to
    be able to remember what humanity has done in the past.

    Agree, otherwise we're doomed to repeat mistakes of the past.


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Friday, August 17, 2018 15:51:00
    On 08-16-18 09:47, Nightfox wrote to MRO <=-

    Perhaps.. I'm not sure I ever had a history teacher that made it more interesting than I thought it was though. In college I took a class
    one term on the history of China, which I thought was interesting, but
    I thought it was still a lot of learning about events & people. Also,

    While events and people have their place, to me the more important thing are the overal social conditions surrounding events. One well known example is the leadup to WWII, which was a direct result of the aftermath of WWI. With that sort of background information, the people and events stuff makes more sense - one can understand why certain people were involved in certain events at that time, because the conditions become known, and this explains why certain types of people feature.


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