• whoa... alive and kicking

    From Drakon@VERT/AMIGAC to Nightfox on Wednesday, June 20, 2018 16:39:00
    I can't remember when my bbs history has finished, but i think in the second half of the 90's.
    The bbs were a strong engine to exchange messages and stay in touch with people, before the internet era. Some bbs also permit to have one of the first email service during the first phase of the internet era.
    It was fantastic discover that there are still some bbs going and some people still usign it.
    You did a great job starting the bbs again, it is also in my mind but i think there are already too many bbs for the few users around ;-)
    In any case, thanks for thew reply and for your job on the bbs.
    I will go to give a look to your bbs.

    See you...

    Drakon

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    Re: whoa... alive and kicking
    By: Drakon to All on Thu Jun 14 2018 01:31 pm

    After taking my BBS down in 2000, I discovered (to my surprise) that
    BBSes were still around via telnet in 2007 and decided to start running one again.

    Welcome. :)

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Drakon on Wednesday, June 20, 2018 12:33:28
    Re: whoa... alive and kicking
    By: Drakon to Nightfox on Wed Jun 20 2018 04:39 pm

    The bbs were a strong engine to exchange messages and stay in touch with people, before the internet era. Some bbs also permit to have one of the first email service during the first phase of the internet era.

    Even before the internet was popular, BBSes allowed local email and email via FIDONet. If you knew someone's FIDONet email address (or knew which BBSes they used often), you could send them email to that BBS via FIDONet.

    Nightfox

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Wednesday, June 20, 2018 14:36:22
    Re: whoa... alive and kicking
    By: Nightfox to Drakon on Wed Jun 20 2018 12:33 pm

    Even before the internet was popular, BBSes allowed local email and email via FIDONet. If you knew someone's FIDONet email address (or knew which BBSes they used often), you could send them email to that BBS via FIDONet.


    Don't forget that a lot of people got their first internet email address through a fido gateway.

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  • From Dreamer@VERT to Drakon on Thursday, June 21, 2018 01:25:00
    Drakon wrote to Nightfox <=-

    I can't remember when my bbs history has finished, but i think in the second half of the 90's.
    The bbs were a strong engine to exchange messages and stay in touch
    with people, before the internet era. Some bbs also permit to have one
    of the first email service during the first phase of the internet era.
    It was fantastic discover that there are still some bbs going and some people still usign it.
    You did a great job starting the bbs again, it is also in my mind but i think there are already too many bbs for the few users around ;-)
    In any case, thanks for thew reply and for your job on the bbs.
    I will go to give a look to your bbs.

    Don't forget Fidonet. Well before the Internet was public, we had messages, including email, travelling all over the world. It could take up to three
    days to hop systems, but we had people exchanging information from Africa, Europe, France, etc. I've heard cases of lives being saved, thanks to
    doctors getting up to date information in and out of remote places in the 1980's.


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Thursday, June 21, 2018 20:50:00
    On 06-20-18 12:33, Nightfox wrote to Drakon <=-


    Even before the internet was popular, BBSes allowed local email and
    email via FIDONet. If you knew someone's FIDONet email address (or
    knew which BBSes they used often), you could send them email to that
    BBS via FIDONet.

    Yes, I used to participate in international echoes via Fidonet and othernets, and for one on one messaging, netmail worked as well as email does todat, just a LOT slower back then! :) Used to take a week or so to get international replies back, because mail only moved overnight (unless crashed through). :)


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to poindexter FORTRAN on Thursday, June 21, 2018 20:52:00
    On 06-20-18 14:36, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Nightfox <=-

    Don't forget that a lot of people got their first internet email
    address through a fido gateway.

    I ran one once, though I used my own subdomain from a provider. This BBS actually uses one of the domains I used many years ago. :)


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Thursday, June 21, 2018 08:43:04
    Re: Re: whoa... alive and kicking
    By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Thu Jun 21 2018 08:50 pm

    Yes, I used to participate in international echoes via Fidonet and othernets, and for one on one messaging, netmail worked as well as email does todat, just a LOT slower back then! :) Used to take a week or so to get international replies back, because mail only moved overnight (unless crashed through). :)

    I remember that. I never used Fidonet netmail much myself, but when I ran my original BBS in the 90s, I finally got it set up on FidoNet in 1998 (4 years after I started running my BBS). I remember seeing that it could take some time to get replies. I was excited that I finally got my BBS on FidoNet (the process always seemed a bit complicated to me). I think I was a little late at that time though, and I took my BBS down just 2 years later when it wasn't getting many callers anymore, and I didn't think anyone would want to use a BBS anymore due to the internet.

    Nightfox

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Friday, June 22, 2018 06:47:00
    On 06-21-18 08:43, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I remember that. I never used Fidonet netmail much myself, but when I

    I used a bit of netmail, it was a good place to go to have more in depth one on one chats. And later, it was also useful for Internet email.

    ran my original BBS in the 90s, I finally got it set up on FidoNet in
    1998 (4 years after I started running my BBS). I remember seeing that
    it could take some time to get replies. I was excited that I finally
    got my BBS on FidoNet (the process always seemed a bit complicated to
    me). I think I was a little late at that time though, and I took my
    BBS down just 2 years later when it wasn't getting many callers
    anymore, and I didn't think anyone would want to use a BBS anymore due
    to the internet.

    I got on Fidonet pretty much as soon as I had the BBS up and running. Fidonet was one of my high priority things. Yes, it was a complex process back in the day, as there were several pieces of software that had to talk - in my case, they were:

    RA (BBS)
    a tosser - that changed over the years as technology changed (Fmail and Fastecho were the ones I used the most)
    BinkleyTerm (mailer)
    NetMgr - nice little utility for tweaking netmail headers on the way in and
    ut.
    YABOM - Yet Another Binkley Outbound Manager - used for final preparation of outbound bundles
    Later, there was a TIC processor as well.

    And a big batch file to string it all together. :)

    And to think today it's basically Synchronet and binkd on one system, while on the other, Mystic does it all sungle handed. :)


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Thursday, June 21, 2018 16:45:55
    Re: Re: whoa... alive and kicking
    By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Fri Jun 22 2018 06:47 am

    I got on Fidonet pretty much as soon as I had the BBS up and running. Fidonet was one of my high priority things. Yes, it was a complex process back in the day, as there were several pieces of software that had to talk - in my case, they were:

    RA (BBS)
    Fastecho were the ones I used the most)
    BinkleyTerm (mailer)
    NetMgr - nice little utility for tweaking netmail headers on the way in YABOM - Yet Another Binkley Outbound Manager - used for final preparation Later, there was a TIC processor as well.

    I also ran RemoteAccess back in the day. I used FrontDoor for my FidoNet mailer front-end, and I don't remember offhand the name of the program I was using for my FidoNet tosser, but I believe it was a shareware program that I registered.

    I also remember some FidoNet BBS sysops being a bit hot-headed when it came to simple things like BBS availability. I remember one FidoNet feed I had for a short time who was frustrated at me because of something like my BBS wasn't always available when his BBS called mine to transfer packets. I didn't really see what the big deal was.. Sometimes a user was using my BBS or perhaps I was using the machine for something. I originally had a different FidoNet feed, who I eventually switched back to, after my 2nd feed was complaining to me about that.

    And to think today it's basically Synchronet and binkd on one system, while on the other, Mystic does it all sungle handed. :)

    Yeah, today it's fairly easy. :)

    Nightfox

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Vk3jed on Thursday, June 21, 2018 21:29:15
    Re: Re: whoa... alive and kicking
    By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Fri Jun 22 2018 06:47 am

    I used a bit of netmail, it was a good place to go to have more in depth one on one chats. And later, it was also useful for Internet email.

    I remember how pissed the gateway operators got when users discovered mailing lists!

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  • From Static@VERT/SUBCBBS to Nightfox on Friday, June 22, 2018 03:04:00
    On 06/21/18, Nightfox said the following...

    I also remember some FidoNet BBS sysops being a bit hot-headed when it cam simple things like BBS availability. I remember one FidoNet feed I had fo short time who was frustrated at me because of something like my BBS wasn' always available when his BBS called mine to transfer packets. I didn't r see what the big deal was.. Sometimes a user was using my BBS or perhaps using the machine for something. I originally had a different FidoNet fee

    That would really depend on when you were down or hosting a user. Being available for mail transfer during Fidonet's zone mail hour was (technically still is) mandatory, but outside of that you could do whatever you wanted
    with regard to availability. Still, most hosts were pretty reasonable if you
    at least polled promptly after a missed transfer to pick up your mail and free up their disk space.

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Friday, June 22, 2018 22:22:00
    On 06-21-18 16:45, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I also ran RemoteAccess back in the day. I used FrontDoor for my
    FidoNet mailer front-end, and I don't remember offhand the name of the program I was using for my FidoNet tosser, but I believe it was a shareware program that I registered.

    Cool. I'm not sure why I went to Bink first, either because it was the first mailer I found, or because it was free, but I liked it snd stuck with it. :)

    I also remember some FidoNet BBS sysops being a bit hot-headed when it came to simple things like BBS availability. I remember one FidoNet
    feed I had for a short time who was frustrated at me because of
    something like my BBS wasn't always available when his BBS called mine
    to transfer packets. I didn't really see what the big deal was..

    I never had issues. Everyone I took a feed from had a guaranteed timeslot overnight. If they wanted to poll or crash something through any other time, it was luck of the draw, and no one complained. :)

    And to think today it's basically Synchronet and binkd on one system, while on the other, Mystic does it all sungle handed. :)

    Yeah, today it's fairly easy. :)

    Yeah I was back on Fidonet almost before I knew it. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to poindexter FORTRAN on Friday, June 22, 2018 22:30:00
    On 06-21-18 21:29, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-

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    Re: Re: whoa... alive and kicking
    By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Fri Jun 22 2018 06:47 am

    I used a bit of netmail, it was a good place to go to have more in depth one on one chats. And later, it was also useful for Internet email.

    I remember how pissed the gateway operators got when users discovered mailing lists!

    I didn't have that problem, I ran my own gateway, chose my own subscriptions, and turned them into echomail. :)


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Static on Friday, June 22, 2018 08:05:00
    Static wrote to Nightfox <=-

    whatever you wanted with regard to availability. Still, most hosts were pretty reasonable if you at least polled promptly after a missed
    transfer to pick up your mail and free up their disk space.

    I've got one downlink who complains when my BBS is down, citing how many
    hours his users have been without his Fido feed. I've offered him a refund
    of all fees paid (none) and come close to telling him to go away on at
    least one occasion.


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