• Weather And Internet

    From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to NIGHTFOX on Sunday, February 25, 2018 12:09:00
    The only reason I haven't been on Facebook...or had the BBS up for
    that matter...is due to weather. Over 8 inches of rain has fallen here

    Does rain affect your power or internet service there?

    It can. Some parts of Arkansas have received over a foot of rain since
    last Tuesday...along with severe weather yesterday (there were several
    tornado warnings issued). If I lose power, I lose internet as well. Of
    course, if lightning is in the area, then everything gets shut down.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to JAGOSSEL on Sunday, February 25, 2018 12:10:00
    "... "La Quinta." Spanish for "Next to Denny's.""

    This tagline is the I remember the most; I can't drive by a Denny's without J>thinking about this tagline or to look for a La Quinta Inn. <g>

    In the Little Rock area, there is only one Denny's left...and there
    are very few, if any, LaQuintas, left in central Arkansas.

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  • From ispyhumanfly@VERT/EUPHORIA to Daryl Stout on Monday, February 26, 2018 09:35:14
    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: Daryl Stout to JAGOSSEL on Sun Feb 25 2018 12:10 pm

    In the Little Rock area, there is only one Denny's left...and there

    They're fading everywhere I've noticed. And by that I mean the south upwards of the north midweast united states. For unrelated reasons I don't even think I've eaten at one in 15+ years.


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  • From Nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to Daryl Stout on Monday, February 26, 2018 09:54:23
    On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 12:10:00 -0600, "Daryl Stout"
    <daryl.stout@VERT/TBOLT> wrote:

    "... "La Quinta." Spanish for "Next to Denny's.""

    This tagline is the I remember the most; I can't drive by a Denny's without >J>thinking about this tagline or to look for a La Quinta Inn. <g>

    In the Little Rock area, there is only one Denny's left...and there
    are very few, if any, LaQuintas, left in central Arkansas.

    When we did a bus tour of San Antonio this is exactly what the bus
    driver said, which was funny because we were staying the LaQuinta
    right next to Denny's.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to ispyhumanfly on Monday, February 26, 2018 09:12:04
    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: ispyhumanfly to Daryl Stout on Mon Feb 26 2018 09:35 am

    In the Little Rock area, there is only one Denny's left...and there

    They're fading everywhere I've noticed. And by that I mean the south upwards of the north midweast united states. For unrelated reasons I don't even think I've eaten at one in 15+ years.

    In the late 90's my wife and Myself had 3 bad experiences at 3 different Denny's in a row so we have for the most part boycotted Denny's since then.
    We did break that boycott 2 times Once out of state on a trip and once visiting my Mom.
    and there is a LaQuinta Inn near the Denny's by us lol.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Denn on Monday, February 26, 2018 12:42:44
    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: Denn to ispyhumanfly on Mon Feb 26 2018 09:12 am

    Denny's in a row so we have for the most part boycotted Denny's since then.
    We did break that boycott 2 times Once out of state on a trip and once visiting my Mom.

    I've generally enjoyed eating at Denny's when I've eaten there. It seems like Denny's are disappearing though.. There was one not too far from me that I recently noticed is gone now.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Monday, February 26, 2018 22:02:06
    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: Nightfox to Denn on Mon Feb 26 2018 12:42 pm

    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: Denn to ispyhumanfly on Mon Feb 26 2018 09:12 am

    Denny's in a row so we have for the most part boycotted Denny's since then.
    We did break that boycott 2 times Once out of state on a trip and once visiting my Mom.

    I've generally enjoyed eating at Denny's when I've eaten there. It seems like Denny's are disappearing though.. There was one not too far from me that I recently noticed is gone now.



    we have one in my city. i think denny's is still big in the mid west. they do a good job of getting people seated quick, getting them their food and getting them out on very busy days. really impressive.
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  • From Jagossel@VERT/MTLGEEK to Nightfox on Tuesday, February 27, 2018 07:20:45
    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: Nightfox to Denn on Mon Feb 26 2018 12:42:44

    I've generally enjoyed eating at Denny's when I've eaten there. It seems li Denny's are disappearing though.. There was one not too far from me that I recently noticed is gone now.

    It seems like that will depend on the location. Denny's recently opened a new location near the hospital. The Denny's I've seen here in this part of the state is still doing business.

    LaQuinta, though, not sure if I have seen any around here. I remember seeing a Denny's nearby a LaQuinta in Florida, just not in this state. ... Then again,
    a lot of people in this state seems to think and act differently than other states.

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to ISPYHUMANFLY on Tuesday, February 27, 2018 12:53:00
    In the Little Rock area, there is only one Denny's left...and there

    They're fading everywhere I've noticed. And by that I mean the south upwards I>the north midweast united states. For unrelated reasons I don't even think I' I>eaten at one in 15+ years.

    I fondly recall the Shoney's Big Boy restaurants. There may be one
    still in Harrison, Arkansas...and one in Branson, Missouri...and
    possibly some in Tennessee...but, I think that chain is practically gone
    as well.

    I used to go there after late week evening square dancing (another
    hobby of mine), then pig out on the buffet.

    Daryl

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DARYL STOUT on Wednesday, February 28, 2018 18:46:00
    I fondly recall the Shoney's Big Boy restaurants. There may be one
    still in Harrison, Arkansas...and one in Branson, Missouri...and
    possibly some in Tennessee...but, I think that chain is practically gone
    as well.

    IIRC, Friches's (sp?) is the "Big Boy." We still have one of those. It
    was built in the last 15-20 years. Our Shoney's closed down around 5 or so years go. The tore the building down not too long ago and put in a
    Popeye's.

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  • From ispyhumanfly@VERT/EUPHORIA to Daryl Stout on Wednesday, February 28, 2018 21:25:21
    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: Daryl Stout to ISPYHUMANFLY on Tue Feb 27 2018 12:53 pm

    I fondly recall the Shoney's Big Boy restaurants. There may be one
    still in Harrison, Arkansas...and one in Branson, Missouri...and

    I grew up with Big Boy's (Bob's) in California. There's only one or two left. Here in Detroit area where I life, where the Big Boy WHQ is, we have many.

    Still taste the same. Still the same menu. Still the same really good Blue Cheese dressing. ;)

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, February 28, 2018 21:58:00
    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: Dumas Walker to DARYL STOUT on Wed Feb 28 2018 06:46 pm

    IIRC, Friches's (sp?) is the "Big Boy." We still have one of those. It
    was built in the last 15-20 years. Our Shoney's closed down around 5 or so years go. The tore the building down not too long ago and put in a Popeye's.

    We just got a popeye's a couple of years ago, Way better than KFC.

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  • From Jagossel@VERT/MTLGEEK to Denn on Thursday, March 01, 2018 06:44:30
    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: Denn to Dumas Walker on Wed Feb 28 2018 21:58:00

    We just got a popeye's a couple of years ago, Way better than KFC.

    I used to like KFC in the past, and they used to have chicken wraps that they stop making for some odd reason. After that, their quality tanked. Never went back.

    I had Popeye's once when I lived near Springfield, MO amd they were horrible. Then we moved near Columbia, SC and had the Popeye's in some small town and they were WAY better than the one in Springfield, MO.

    I agree: Popeye's is FAR better than KFC; and I would put the Popeye's near my house (~12-13 minute drive) my second favorite chicken place, just below any Chic-Fil-A. :D I LOVE Chic-Fil-A, and I missed it when I lived in Missouri (only two Chic-Fil-A's in Springfield, and I lived about 30 minutes of a drive from Springfield).

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to ispyhumanfly on Thursday, March 01, 2018 09:39:31
    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: ispyhumanfly to Daryl Stout on Wed Feb 28 2018 09:25 pm

    I grew up with Big Boy's (Bob's) in California. There's only one or two left. Here in Detroit area where I life, where the Big Boy WHQ is, we have many.

    Still taste the same. Still the same menu. Still the same really good Blue Cheese dressing. ;)

    I never really liked blue cheese myself. Reminds me of cheese that has sat in the refrigerator a little too long.. :P

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Denn on Thursday, March 01, 2018 09:41:18
    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: Denn to Dumas Walker on Wed Feb 28 2018 09:58 pm

    We just got a popeye's a couple of years ago, Way better than KFC.

    I like Popeye's, except after a while I get a little tired that just about everything they have is spicy. The mild stuff is good but has a kick that slowly grows in intensity. Even their onion rings are spicy. Sometimes I'd prefer something from KFC. I remember when KFC used to have chicken nuggets a long time ago, which I really liked.. I wish they still had those.

    Nightfox

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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Nightfox on Thursday, March 01, 2018 13:25:15
    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: Nightfox to ispyhumanfly on Thu Mar 01 2018 09:39:31

    I never really liked blue cheese myself. Reminds me of cheese that has sat in the refrigerator a little too long.. :P

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  • From Mojo@VERT/MOJO to Nightfox on Thursday, March 01, 2018 16:10:37
    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: Nightfox to Denn on Thu Mar 01 2018 09:41 am

    I like Popeye's, except after a while I get a little tired that just about everything they have is spicy. The mild stuff is good but has a kick that slowly grows in intensity. Even their onion rings are spicy. Sometimes I'd prefer something from KFC. I remember when KFC used to have chicken nuggets a long time ago, which I really liked.. I wish they still had those.


    I do not know about in your area but here KFC has gotten real expensive and the portion size has gone done alot. I stay away fromt here because it is to expensive to eat there anymore. Plus I don't think the quality of the food is as good anymore. The same with Wendy's there prices have gone up and it is not as good anymore. There burgers are real dry. They use to be juicey long time ago. Pizza is about the only good value around here anymore and only from a couple of places. (Pizza Hut & Cottage Inn)


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  • From Jagossel@VERT/MTLGEEK to Mojo on Thursday, March 01, 2018 19:19:07
    Re: KFC
    By: Mojo to Nightfox on Thu Mar 01 2018 16:10:37

    Pizza is about the only good value around here anymore and only from a couple of places. (Pizza Hut & Cottage Inn)

    Ick. :p Not a fan of Pizza Hut, primaritly their pan pizza; so much butter. I like Papa John's more, and they (and Domino's) are the only ones that delivers to where I live. We do have two local pizza shops that I like the most, but we have to drive there to pick it up; we get either one of the two local shops on rare occasion.

    I never heard of Cottage Inn. Is that a local place or a small franchise that we don't have here in the state that I'm in?

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Mojo on Thursday, March 01, 2018 17:01:18
    Re: KFC
    By: Mojo to Nightfox on Thu Mar 01 2018 04:10 pm

    I do not know about in your area but here KFC has gotten real expensive and the portion size has gone done alot. I stay away fromt here because it is to expensive to eat there anymore. Plus I don't think the quality of the food is as good anymore. The same with Wendy's there prices have gone up and it is not as good anymore. There burgers are real dry. They use to be juicey long time ago. Pizza is about the only good value around here anymore and only from a couple of places. (Pizza Hut & Cottage Inn)

    I actually haven't eaten much at KFC in quite a while.. I think Wendy's here is still fairly good though.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Jagossel on Thursday, March 01, 2018 17:02:32
    Re: Pizza Places
    By: Jagossel to Mojo on Thu Mar 01 2018 07:19 pm

    Ick. :p Not a fan of Pizza Hut, primaritly their pan pizza; so much butter. I like Papa John's more, and they (and Domino's) are the only ones that delivers to where I live. We do have two local pizza shops that I like the most, but we have to drive there to pick it up; we get either one of the two local shops on rare occasion.

    There are a couple of local pizza chains where I am that I like as well. But as far as national/international chains, I also like Papa Murphy's and Round Table.

    Nightfox

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  • From Mojo@VERT/MOJO to Jagossel on Thursday, March 01, 2018 23:42:03
    Re: Pizza Places
    By: Jagossel to Mojo on Thu Mar 01 2018 07:19 pm

    Ick. :p Not a fan of Pizza Hut, primaritly their pan pizza; so much butter. I like Papa John's more, and they (and Domino's) are the only ones that delivers to where I live. We do have two local pizza shops that I like the most, but we have to drive there to pick it up; we get either one of the two local shops on rare occasion.


    Well Pizza Hut here is expensive so I do not order from them. I get my pizza from Cottage Inn (cottageinn.com) and I only loike pan or deep dish pizza as anything else is like eating a thin piece of cardboard. I do not drive anymore so I have to stay wiht a place that delivers so I can have pizza when I do want some.


    I never heard of Cottage Inn. Is that a local place or a small franchise that we don't have here in the state that I'm in?

    I have put there web address in the early part of this message so you can go to there web site and type in your zip code to see if they have one in your area.

    Mojo

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  • From Mojo@VERT/MOJO to Nightfox on Thursday, March 01, 2018 23:43:35
    Re: KFC
    By: Nightfox to Mojo on Thu Mar 01 2018 05:01 pm

    I actually haven't eaten much at KFC in quite a while.. I think Wendy's here is still fairly good though.



    Well you are lucky to have a Wendy's that is still good. The one we have here near me is a joke and I do not go there anymore. Plus they are getting expensive for the poor quality of food they have.


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Jagossel on Friday, March 02, 2018 16:28:00
    Jagossel wrote to Mojo <=-

    ones that delivers to where I live. We do have two local pizza shops
    that I like the most, but we have to drive there to pick it up; we get either one of the two local shops on rare occasion.

    While I don't mind Pizza Hut and Dominos is so-so, the best pizzas always seem to come from the little independent shops, rather than the big chains. I find the same with hamburgers. I don't go for McDonalds burgers at al. Hungry Jacks (our version of Burger King) aren't bad, but by far the best is a "Hamburger with the lot" from a local fish and chip shop. Don't do KFC at all either.




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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to DUMAS WALKER on Thursday, March 01, 2018 12:06:00
    Mike,

    IIRC, Friches's (sp?) is the "Big Boy." We still have one of those. It DW>was built in the last 15-20 years. Our Shoney's closed down around 5 or so DW>years go. The tore the building down not too long ago and put in a DW>Popeye's.

    In southwest Little Rock, there have been quite a few restaurant
    changes. A former Wendy's was converted to a Hardee's...a former
    Popeye's was moved to a new location across the street (that replaced a
    former Ryan's Cafeteria), and the original Popeye's was replaced by a
    Burger King...both inside a Shell Station convenience store. There are
    at least 3 area Burger King restaurants inside a gas station (Shell or
    Valero) convenience store.

    As an aside, I *LOVE* the flavor of their chicken tenders.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to DENN on Thursday, March 01, 2018 12:10:00
    We just got a popeye's a couple of years ago, Way better than KFC.

    Never have tried Popeye's -- loved KFC's Cole Slaw, but it doesn't
    agree with my digestive tract anymore (just like corn), so I can't eat
    either one <SOB!!>. I liked it when they had the "boneless deals", but
    that didn't last long...those were off the menu after a short time.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to JAGOSSEL on Thursday, March 01, 2018 12:11:00
    Chic-Fil-A. :D I LOVE Chic-Fil-A, and I missed it when I lived in Missouri J>(only two Chic-Fil-A's in Springfield, and I lived about 30 minutes of a driv J>from Springfield).

    Chick-Fil-A has good chicken...plus their peach milkshake
    (unfortunately, only available in the summer months) IS TO DIE FOR!!

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Daryl Stout on Thursday, March 01, 2018 22:34:04
    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: Daryl Stout to JAGOSSEL on Thu Mar 01 2018 12:11 pm

    Chick-Fil-A has good chicken...plus their peach milkshake
    (unfortunately, only available in the summer months) IS TO DIE FOR!!

    I'll have to try that.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to echicken on Thursday, March 01, 2018 22:26:33
    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: echicken to Nightfox on Thu Mar 01 2018 01:25 pm

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Mojo on Thursday, March 01, 2018 22:33:41
    Re: KFC
    By: Mojo to Nightfox on Thu Mar 01 2018 11:43 pm

    I actually haven't eaten much at KFC in quite a while.. I think
    Wendy's here is still fairly good though.

    Wendy's here is awfull, Tony's burgers and Burger Bar are ones in my area that I love.
    Subway is good now that they fired that asshat Jarred.
    Arby's is still pretty good.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Denn on Thursday, March 01, 2018 23:39:11
    Re: SUBWAY
    By: Denn to Mojo on Thu Mar 01 2018 10:33 pm

    Subway is good now that they fired that asshat Jarred.

    I know, his salami and mayo was total under-cooked!

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  • From Mojo@VERT/MOJO to Denn on Friday, March 02, 2018 09:26:00
    Re: SUBWAY
    By: Denn to Mojo on Thu Mar 01 2018 10:33 pm

    Wendy's here is awfull, Tony's burgers and Burger Bar are ones in my area that I love.

    I have found that local burger places are really the best for a good burger. Sadly we do not have any of those now all we have are the chain burger places. But there are a few bars around here that have good burgers if you don't mind going to a bar for one.


    Subway is good now that they fired that asshat Jarred.

    Subway here is the worst place you can go, there bread is stale and sometimes it is so hard you can hardly chew it. I am not much for subs anyway if I want a good sandwich I go to a local meat market here and they have good sandwiches for lunch time. They only server them during the week at lunch time. They are to busy to be able to do in on Saturday and they are closed on Sunday.


    Arby's is still pretty good.

    It has been a long time since I have been to Arby's but last time I was there the food was still good.


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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Mojo on Friday, March 02, 2018 09:38:28
    Re: SUBWAY
    By: Mojo to Denn on Fri Mar 02 2018 09:26 am

    Subway is good now that they fired that asshat Jarred.

    Subway here is the worst place you can go, there bread is stale and sometimes it is so hard you can hardly chew it. I am not much for subs anyway if I want a good sandwich I go to a local meat market here and they have good sandwiches for lunch time. They only server them during the week at lunch time. They are to busy to be able to do in on Saturday and they are closed on Sunday.

    The Subway near me is really good, I think I'll drop in there today and get me a 12" for dinner.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Mojo on Friday, March 02, 2018 09:37:35
    Re: Pizza Places
    By: Mojo to Jagossel on Thu Mar 01 2018 11:42 pm

    Well Pizza Hut here is expensive so I do not order from them. I get my pizza from Cottage Inn (cottageinn.com) and I only loike pan or deep dish pizza as anything else is like eating a thin piece of cardboard. I do not

    heh.. I'm the opposite, I tend to like thin crust pizza, because if the crust is too thick then the crust is almost all I taste.. It's hard to taste the toppings with so much crust. I also like it more crisp, and the thick crusts tend to be more doughy.

    Pizza Hut isn't my favorite either.. In fact I can't remember the last time I had a pizza from there.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Friday, March 02, 2018 09:39:58
    Re: Re: Pizza Places
    By: Vk3jed to Jagossel on Fri Mar 02 2018 04:28 pm

    While I don't mind Pizza Hut and Dominos is so-so, the best pizzas always seem to come from the little independent shops, rather than the big chains. I find the same with hamburgers. I don't go for McDonalds burgers at al. Hungry Jacks (our version of Burger King) aren't bad, but by far the best is a "Hamburger with the lot" from a local fish and chip shop. Don't do KFC at all either.

    Yeah, the independent places seem to do a fairly good job. For fast food chains, I think McDonalds hamburgers are probably the worst, although I don't mind them if I'm really hungry. I prefer Burger King over McDonalds, though there are others I like as well. I think Carl's Jr. (or Hardee's in other parts of the US, as they're owned by the same company now) are fairly good for hamburgers too, and I also think Dairy Queen and A&W make a decent hamburger.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Daryl Stout on Friday, March 02, 2018 09:41:37
    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: Daryl Stout to DUMAS WALKER on Thu Mar 01 2018 12:06 pm

    In southwest Little Rock, there have been quite a few restaurant
    changes. A former Wendy's was converted to a Hardee's...a former
    Popeye's was moved to a new location across the street (that replaced a former Ryan's Cafeteria), and the original Popeye's was replaced by a Burger King...both inside a Shell Station convenience store. There are
    at least 3 area Burger King restaurants inside a gas station (Shell or Valero) convenience store.

    We've had a few changes here lately.. There was a Jack-In-The-Box not too far from me that closed for some reason, and it was replaced by a Muchas Gracias (local fast food Mexican chain, which I'm not too fond of). There was also a local seafood restaurant that I heard was fairly good that closed a few years ago, and they put in a Chick-Fil-A in its place. I heard people rave about that place, and there were long lines after it opened.. I tried them a couple times and it didn't really seem that special to me. Just another chicken place.

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  • From Jagossel@VERT/MTLGEEK to Denn on Friday, March 02, 2018 13:35:01
    Re: SUBWAY
    By: Denn to Mojo on Thu Mar 01 2018 22:33:41

    Subway is good now that they fired that asshat Jarred.

    Man, I remember when I was a kid, my brother, neighbor friend, and I would get $5 from our parents, ride down hill on our bikes, and go to Subway to have lunch during our Summer breaks from school. Now as an adult, I rarely go and only do it to get a quick sandwich.

    Arby's is still pretty good.

    Ick, not really. To me, most of their food is too greasy for my tas. About
    the only thing I get from Arby's is a turkey gyro.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Jagossel on Friday, March 02, 2018 11:43:40
    Re: SUBWAY
    By: Jagossel to Denn on Fri Mar 02 2018 01:35 pm

    Arby's is still pretty good.

    Ick, not really. To me, most of their food is too greasy for my tas. About the only thing I get from Arby's is a turkey gyro.

    I like Arby's sometimes, but I find their gyros to be rather funny, as they don't seem to spice the meat the way gyro meat is typically spiced. From what I remember, they also offer their gyro with the traditional Arby's roast beef, which is not prepared the way gyro meat is typically prepared..

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Saturday, March 03, 2018 08:26:00
    Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Yeah, the independent places seem to do a fairly good job. For fast

    I always go for the small independent shop, especially if it's crowded by locals (a good sign!).

    food chains, I think McDonalds hamburgers are probably the worst,
    although I don't mind them if I'm really hungry. I prefer Burger King over McDonalds, though there are others I like as well. I think Carl's

    Yeah, Hungry Jacks (our Burger King) are fairly good, I will go there if I'm forced to use a chain. Here, they sell an "Aussie Burger", which is a rough approximation of what you get in the independent shops, and it's not bad.


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  • From Mojo@VERT/MOJO to Nightfox on Friday, March 02, 2018 16:08:13
    Re: SUBWAY
    By: Nightfox to Jagossel on Fri Mar 02 2018 11:43 am

    I like Arby's sometimes, but I find their gyros to be rather funny, as they don't seem to spice the meat the way gyro meat is typically spiced. From what I remember, they also offer their gyro with the traditional Arby's roast beef, which is not prepared the way gyro meat is typically prepared..


    It has been a long time since I have bene to Arby's, I am a big fan of there roast beef sandwiches. Now I do not know if they have changed since it has been over a year since I was last there. But one day soon I hope to go there again and have me some roast beef sandwiches and I also like the potato cakes.


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  • From HusTler@VERT/PHARCYDE to Nightfox on Friday, March 02, 2018 15:58:37
    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: Nightfox to Daryl Stout on Fri Mar 02 2018 09:41 am

    store. There are at least 3 area Burger King restaurants inside a
    gas station (Shell or Valero) convenience store.

    We've had a few changes here lately.. There was a Jack-In-The-Box not too far from me that closed for some reason, and it was replaced by a Muchas

    Jack in the Box?? After a night of drinking and chasing chickies on a Saturday night, Jack in Box was the only place you could find open after 11:00pm. Unless you went to a restaurant and paid a fortune for a burger. The last Jack in the Box closed down in the 80's here on Long Island. We were always drunk and broke so by the end of the night the drive threw at Jack in the Box was the only place to eat after hours. Their Onion rigs were great at 3:00am!
    Whoa..I'm
    having a flashback! Call the COPS. I'm gettin murdered! ;-)

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to HusTler on Friday, March 02, 2018 15:39:38
    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: HusTler to Nightfox on Fri Mar 02 2018 03:58 pm

    Jack in the Box?? After a night of drinking and chasing chickies on a Saturday night, Jack in Box was the only place you could find open after 11:00pm. Unless you went to a restaurant and paid a fortune for a burger. The last Jack in the Box closed down in the 80's here on Long Island. We were always drunk and broke so by the end of the night the drive threw at Jack in the Box was the only place to eat after hours. Their Onion rigs were great at 3:00am!

    Jack In The Box still has locations in my area. They've had a pretty funny string of commercials on TV, too.

    When I think of late-night fast food, usually Taco Bell is the place I think of. They're usually open late, and now a couple others are too (McDonald's and Burger King now have late drive-through hours).

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ISPYHUMANFLY on Friday, March 02, 2018 19:57:00
    Still taste the same. Still the same menu. Still the same really good Blue Cheese dressing. ;)

    When I was in college, a Freshman, I had a night class once a week. Would always stop into the Big Boy right next to campus and have a bacon cheeseburger, onion rings, a slice of pecan pie, and a lemonade before class.
    I don't remember the lemonade being great, but thinking of the rest of it
    still makes me hungry.

    And the waitress was named Michele. :) That was near 30 years ago, but I
    do remember that.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to JAGOSSEL on Friday, March 02, 2018 19:58:00
    Ick. :p Not a fan of Pizza Hut, primaritly their pan pizza; so much butter. I >like Papa John's more, and they (and Domino's) are the only ones that delivers >to where I live. We do have two local pizza shops that I like the most, but we >have to drive there to pick it up; we get either one of the two local shops on >rare occasion.

    I like Papa John's when I eat it, but it is a lot more likely to give me heartburn after. I think their sauce has more sodium in it or something.
    But that does not stop me from eating it. :)

    Here locally, we used to have a place called Bella Pizza that was great.
    The owners (brothers) finally retired. Linney's, another local place, is
    also good. The owner and namesake passed away a couple of years back but,
    so far, the restaurant has stayed open.

    Pizza Inn, which may be (or may have used to have been) a chain, is also
    not bad. Only place left here in town, that I know of, that has a buffet,
    and the buffet usually has a good variety of pizza flavors, some of which
    are not so common. The Pizza Huts all went to carry-out/delivery only.

    Little Cesar's is also here and also not bad.

    I wish we had a Hometown Pizza here.

    I like pizza, in case you cannot tell. :D

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to NIGHTFOX on Friday, March 02, 2018 10:24:00
    prefer something from KFC. I remember when KFC used to have chicken nuggets N>long time ago, which I really liked.. I wish they still had those.

    If you mean those boneless ones, I liked them as well. Unfortunately,
    they didn't last long on the menu.

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to MOJO on Friday, March 02, 2018 10:25:00
    I do not know about in your area but here KFC has gotten real expensive and t M>portion size has gone done alot. I stay away fromt here because it is to M>expensive to eat there anymore. Plus I don't think the quality of the food is M>as good anymore. The same with Wendy's there prices have gone up and it is no M>as good anymore. There burgers are real dry. They use to be juicey long time M>ago. Pizza is about the only good value around here anymore and only from a M>couple of places. (Pizza Hut & Cottage Inn)

    There's a local Pizza Hut that does a lunch buffet every day except
    Saturday, from 11am to 2pm -- their chicken alfredo is OK, but their
    lasagna is to die for!! They also have a wide selection of pizza, and
    their salad bar has iceberg lettuce, which I prefer.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to NIGHTFOX on Friday, March 02, 2018 10:26:00
    I actually haven't eaten much at KFC in quite a while.. I think Wendy's here N>is still fairly good though.

    Their premium cod fish sandwich (served only during Lent, to pick up
    the Catholic customers) is quite tasty, IMO.

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to JAGOSSEL on Friday, March 02, 2018 10:27:00
    like Papa John's more, and they (and Domino's) are the only ones that deliver J>to where I live. We do have two local pizza shops that I like the most, but w J>have to drive there to pick it up; we get either one of the two local shops o J>rare occasion.

    Papa John's no longer delivers where I am located, and it has been
    ages since I've ordered from them. I did enjoy the garlic cheese sticks,
    but I don't remember if they did them, or if those were from Little
    Caesar's.

    Daryl

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Mojo on Saturday, March 03, 2018 00:34:46
    Re: Pizza Places
    By: Mojo to Jagossel on Thu Mar 01 2018 11:42 pm

    Re: Pizza Places
    By: Jagossel to Mojo on Thu Mar 01 2018 07:19 pm

    Ick. :p Not a fan of Pizza Hut, primaritly their pan pizza; so much butter. I like Papa John's more, and they (and Domino's) are the only ones that delivers to where I live. We do have two local pizza shops that I like the most, but we have to drive there to pick it up; we get either one of the two local shops on rare occasion.



    i dont even consider that stuff pizza. it's just a premade crust and they put the toppings on and then it cooks for 5 mins. it's like fast food.
    i'm in wisconsin and we have some great pizza here.

    from Cottage Inn (cottageinn.com) and I only loike pan or deep dish pizza as anything else is like eating a thin piece of cardboard. I do not drive anymore so I have to stay wiht a place that delivers so I can have pizza when I do want some.


    even think crust shouldnt be like cardboard. it should be like a cracker and flavorful.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Denn on Saturday, March 03, 2018 00:37:00
    Re: SUBWAY
    By: Denn to Mojo on Thu Mar 01 2018 10:33 pm

    Subway is good now that they fired that asshat Jarred.


    never liked subway. tastes nasty and their bread is weird.
    also they never wash that knife they use to cut the sandwiches so it's a good way to get sick, which i do.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Mojo on Saturday, March 03, 2018 00:40:59
    Re: SUBWAY
    By: Mojo to Denn on Fri Mar 02 2018 09:26 am

    Arby's is still pretty good.

    It has been a long time since I have been to Arby's but last time I was there the food was still good.



    i think arby's still uses that meat glue. they have scraps of meat and use that enzyme to stick it all together when refrigerated.

    so that means there can be some bacteria inside that doesnt get the heat it needs to cook off.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Saturday, March 03, 2018 00:46:09
    Re: SUBWAY
    By: Nightfox to Jagossel on Fri Mar 02 2018 11:43 am

    I like Arby's sometimes, but I find their gyros to be rather funny, as they don't seem to spice the meat the way gyro meat is typically spiced. From what I remember, they also offer their gyro with the traditional Arby's roast beef, which is not prepared the way gyro meat is typically prepared..



    if you get a gyro where they shave off the meat, most of the time it is precooked and just heated up on their broiler.
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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to MRO on Saturday, March 03, 2018 07:55:23
    Re: SUBWAY
    By: MRO to Denn on Sat Mar 03 2018 12:37 am

    Subway is good now that they fired that asshat Jarred.


    never liked subway. tastes nasty and their bread is weird.
    also they never wash that knife they use to cut the sandwiches so it's a good way to get sick, which i do.

    at my Subway they use a clean knife for ea sandwich they make.
    and the Italian cheese bread is great.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to MRO on Saturday, March 03, 2018 09:03:32
    Re: SUBWAY
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Sat Mar 03 2018 12:46 am

    if you get a gyro where they shave off the meat, most of the time it is precooked and just heated up on their broiler.

    How often do they clean the gyro slicer blade? can you imagine all that tastey bacteria that builds up on that?


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Denn on Saturday, March 03, 2018 13:19:11
    Re: SUBWAY
    By: Denn to MRO on Sat Mar 03 2018 07:55 am

    Re: SUBWAY
    By: MRO to Denn on Sat Mar 03 2018 12:37 am

    Subway is good now that they fired that asshat Jarred.


    never liked subway. tastes nasty and their bread is weird.
    also they never wash that knife they use to cut the sandwiches so it's a good way to get sick, which i do.

    at my Subway they use a clean knife for ea sandwich they make.
    and the Italian cheese bread is great.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Denn on Saturday, March 03, 2018 13:19:55
    Re: SUBWAY
    By: Denn to MRO on Sat Mar 03 2018 09:03 am

    Re: SUBWAY
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Sat Mar 03 2018 12:46 am

    if you get a gyro where they shave off the meat, most of the time it is precooked and just heated up on their broiler.

    How often do they clean the gyro slicer blade? can you imagine all that tastey bacteria that builds up on that?



    i have seen a place dip it in old water like an ice cream scoup.
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  • From Jagossel@VERT/MTLGEEK to Dumas Walker on Saturday, March 03, 2018 16:35:54
    Re: Pizza Places
    By: Dumas Walker to JAGOSSEL on Fri Mar 02 2018 19:58:00

    Pizza Inn, which may be (or may have used to have been) a chain, is also
    not bad. Only place left here in town, that I know of, that has a buffet, and the buffet usually has a good variety of pizza flavors, some of which are not so common. The Pizza Huts all went to carry-out/delivery only.

    I believe it is a chain, and I thought that I saw a Pizza Inn or two in the southeastern US. I thought that I saw one years ago in the town that I grew up in. As far as buffet style pizza, we have a couple of Ci-Ci's in the area. They are decent.

    Little Cesar's is also here and also not bad.

    Little Ceaser's sauce is a little too sweet for my taste, but they are good for getting pizza for a really cheap price.

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to DIGITAL MAN on Saturday, March 03, 2018 01:57:00
    Rob,

    Chick-Fil-A has good chicken...plus their peach milkshake (unfortunately, only available in the summer months) IS TO DIE FOR!!

    I'll have to try that.

    It really tastes good on a hot summer day. It reminds me of the old
    Nehi Peach soda.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to NIGHTFOX on Saturday, March 03, 2018 01:59:00
    When I think of late-night fast food, usually Taco Bell is the place I think N>of. They're usually open late, and now a couple others are too (McDonald's a N>Burger King now have late drive-through hours).

    Some of the central Arkansas area McDonald's have 24 hour drive thru
    windows on weekends.

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to DENN on Saturday, March 03, 2018 01:59:00
    Subway is good now that they fired that asshat Jarred.

    Too bad about him...but their food is great. I usually get their
    Subway Club.

    Arby's is still pretty good.

    Their Chicken Cordon Bleu isn't bad.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to DENN on Saturday, March 03, 2018 02:00:00
    The Subway near me is really good, I think I'll drop in there today and get m D>a 12" for dinner.

    Darn...I'm reading BBS mail at 2am, and this thread is making me
    hungry. :P

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to NIGHTFOX on Saturday, March 03, 2018 02:01:00
    heh.. I'm the opposite, I tend to like thin crust pizza, because if the crus N>is too thick then the crust is almost all I taste.. It's hard to taste the N>toppings with so much crust. I also like it more crisp, and the thick crusts N>tend to be more doughy.

    Thin crust is easier for me to eat with full dentures.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to NIGHTFOX on Saturday, March 03, 2018 02:03:00
    Yeah, the independent places seem to do a fairly good job. For fast food N>chains, I think McDonalds hamburgers are probably the worst, although I don't N>mind them if I'm really hungry. I prefer Burger King over McDonalds, though N>there are others I like as well. I think Carl's Jr. (or Hardee's in other N>parts of the US, as they're owned by the same company now) are fairly good fo N>hamburgers too, and I also think Dairy Queen and A&W make a decent hamburger.

    I had worked for central Arkansas area Burger King's (2 different
    franchises) nearly 40 years ago, for a total of 5 years. However, one of
    the local franchisees is in trouble with the state. In giving the
    managers menu items at wholesale instead of retail, the franchisee now
    owes $33,000 in back taxes. I've seen the state go in, and close down restaurants and other businesses, who don't pay their sales taxes.

    Food wise, the burgers at Burger King are flame broiled, with the
    grease flowing into a drip pan. They're not "swimming in grease" like
    those at Wendy's, McDonald's, etc.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to DUMAS WALKER on Saturday, March 03, 2018 02:04:00
    I like pizza, in case you cannot tell. :D

    There is a local "hole in the wall" small restaurant in southwest
    Little Rock, called H.B.'s Bar-B-Q. First started in 1961, it's at the
    same location, and open 10am to 4pm Monday through Friday. Nice cozy
    place for lunch. Prices are moderate, but the food is scrumptious.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to MOJO on Saturday, March 03, 2018 02:05:00
    It has been a long time since I have bene to Arby's, I am a big fan of there M>roast beef sandwiches. Now I do not know if they have changed since it has be M>over a year since I was last there. But one day soon I hope to go there again M>and have me some roast beef sandwiches and I also like the potato cakes.

    I like the potato cakes myself...reminds me of "hash browns". For a
    sandwich, it's the Chicken Cordon Bleu, or a Turkey Club for me.

    Daryl

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Jagossel on Sunday, March 04, 2018 00:39:09
    Re: Pizza Places
    By: Jagossel to Dumas Walker on Sat Mar 03 2018 04:35 pm

    I believe it is a chain, and I thought that I saw a Pizza Inn or two in the southeastern US. I thought that I saw one years ago in the town that I grew up in. As far as buffet style pizza, we have a couple of Ci-Ci's in the area. They are decent.



    my friend's girlfriend works at a ci ci's down south.
    she told us one time a family picked up a table and put it right next to the buffet. right up against it.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to HUSTLER on Sunday, March 04, 2018 18:10:00
    Jack in the Box?? After a night of drinking and chasing chickies on a Saturday >night, Jack in Box was the only place you could find open after 11:00pm. Unless
    you went to a restaurant and paid a fortune for a burger. The last Jack in the >Box closed down in the 80's here on Long Island. We were always drunk and broke
    so by the end of the night the drive threw at Jack in the Box was the only >place to eat after hours. Their Onion rigs were great at 3:00am!

    In the area I grew up in, you could catch a Taco Bell drive-thru open but,
    if it got too late, your only option was White Castle. Some of them were
    24 hours. One we used to go to had some guy that would come in with a
    guitar and play while the late-nighters ate.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Sunday, March 04, 2018 18:14:00
    i dont even consider that stuff pizza. it's just a premade crust and they put >the toppings on and then it cooks for 5 mins. it's like fast food.
    i'm in wisconsin and we have some great pizza here.

    What part? Drove through there for the first time late last August. My impression overall was that it is a beautiful state. Spend a couple of
    nights in Ashland, rode a boat around the Apostles, and saw a bunch of waterfalls and lighthouses before heading on up the Minnesota coast to
    Canada.

    Did not have any pizza while I was there, but I did have a pastie.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sunday, March 04, 2018 20:10:11
    Re: Pizza Places
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sun Mar 04 2018 06:14 pm

    What part? Drove through there for the first time late last August. My impression overall was that it is a beautiful state. Spend a couple of nights in Ashland, rode a boat around the Apostles, and saw a bunch of waterfalls and lighthouses before heading on up the Minnesota coast to Canada.


    i think you had a more minnestota experience than a wisconsin experience up there.

    i'm in se wisconsin
    Did not have any pizza while I was there, but I did have a pastie.

    what the hell is a pastie? one of those gas station things?
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Monday, March 05, 2018 18:29:00
    i think you had a more minnestota experience than a wisconsin experience up there.

    i'm in se wisconsin

    Closest I got to SE Wisconsin was probably when I crossed the state line
    near Janesville. Went N a ways and then started heading NW.

    Got a more Lake Superior experience, for sure.

    Did not have any pizza while I was there, but I did have a pastie.
    what the hell is a pastie? one of those gas station things?

    I guess they could sell them at gas stations. It is a cornish/welsh thing,
    I think. It is like a whole meal folded inside a crust. Some are like pot pies, I guess, except you don't make them in a tin. Filled with meat and some veggies, usually potato... when done right, they are very tasty.

    There is an italian pastry that is similar, but I cannot remember what they
    are called. They are usually full of tomato sauce and peperoni or sausage
    and, of course, cheese.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Monday, March 05, 2018 16:39:53
    Re: Pizza Places
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Mon Mar 05 2018 06:29 pm

    what the hell is a pastie? one of those gas station things?

    I guess they could sell them at gas stations. It is a cornish/welsh thing, I think. It is like a whole meal folded inside a crust. Some are like pot pies, I guess, except you don't make them in a tin. Filled with meat and some veggies, usually potato... when done right, they are very tasty.

    There is an italian pastry that is similar, but I cannot remember what they are called. They are usually full of tomato sauce and peperoni or sausage and, of course, cheese.

    A calzone?

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Monday, March 05, 2018 20:12:07
    Re: Pizza Places
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Mon Mar 05 2018 06:29 pm

    Closest I got to SE Wisconsin was probably when I crossed the state line near Janesville. Went N a ways and then started heading NW.


    yeah that's out in the middle of nowhere, too.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Monday, March 05, 2018 20:12:49
    Re: Pizza Places
    By: Nightfox to Dumas Walker on Mon Mar 05 2018 04:39 pm

    There is an italian pastry that is similar, but I cannot remember what they are called. They are usually full of tomato sauce and peperoni or sausage and, of course, cheese.

    A calzone?


    no, they dont have a thick pastry. it's thin and crunchy. they are good.
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  • From Derision@VERT/AMIGAC to Denn on Tuesday, March 06, 2018 01:01:44
    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: Denn to Dumas Walker on Wed Feb 28 2018 21:58:00

    was built in the last 15-20 years. Our Shoney's closed down around 5 or so years go. The tore the building down not too long ago and put in a Popeye's.

    We just got a popeye's a couple of years ago, Way better than KFC.

    Popeye's is actually pretty good. Still nothing'll touch the raw majesty of Roy Rogers for fried chicken.

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  • From Derision@VERT/AMIGAC to Vk3jed on Tuesday, March 06, 2018 01:05:35
    Re: Re: Pizza Places
    By: Vk3jed to Jagossel on Fri Mar 02 2018 16:28:00

    While I don't mind Pizza Hut and Dominos is so-so, the best pizzas always seem to come from the little independent shops, rather than the big chains. I find the same with hamburgers. I don't go for McDonalds burgers at al. Hungry Jacks (our version of Burger King) aren't bad, but by far the best is a "Hamburger with the lot" from a local fish and chip shop. Don't do KFC at all either.

    I'm from New Jersey, so I'm kind of a pizza snob. Pizza Hut and Domino's are abominations. Papa John's isn't too far behind. The little mom-and-pop stores are where it's at, really, but even they're a bit questionable the further you move from the New York area.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Derision on Monday, March 05, 2018 22:50:45
    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: Derision to Denn on Tue Mar 06 2018 01:01 am

    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: Denn to Dumas Walker on Wed Feb 28 2018 21:58:00

    was built in the last 15-20 years. Our Shoney's closed down around 5 or so years go. The tore the building down not too long ago and put in a Popeye's.

    We just got a popeye's a couple of years ago, Way better than KFC.

    Popeye's is actually pretty good. Still nothing'll touch the raw majesty of Roy Rogers for fried chicken.


    it depends on how fresh it is.
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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to MRO on Monday, March 05, 2018 21:49:04
    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: MRO to Derision on Mon Mar 05 2018 10:50 pm

    0V6
    We just got a popeye's a couple of years ago, Way better than KFC.

    Popeye's is actually pretty good. Still nothing'll touch the raw
    majesty of Roy Rogers for fried chicken.


    it depends on how fresh it is.

    It's so fresh you can watch them kill the chicken...

    JK
    the $5 box is usually pretty good.
    KFC used to be good before Pepsi bought it.

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  • From Simulant@VERT/SIMULANT to Denn on Tuesday, March 06, 2018 06:37:06
    Re: SUBWAY
    By: Denn to Mojo on Thu Mar 01 2018 10:33 pm

    I actually haven't eaten much at KFC in quite a while.. I think
    Wendy's here is still fairly good though.

    Wendy's here is awfull, Tony's burgers and Burger Bar are ones in my area t
    hat
    I love.
    Subway is good now that they fired that asshat Jarred.
    Arby's is still pretty good.

    We have a ton of Pret-A-Manger's here. Expensive and healthy but MAN OH MAN it is the tastiest food and best coffee of any chain around in my opinion. They're always busy so people seem to love it!! Filter coffee is 99p and sometimes the staff just give free food and drink out too when they feel like it!

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to MRO on Tuesday, March 06, 2018 05:50:55
    Re: Pizza Places
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Sun Mar 04 2018 08:10 pm

    What part? Drove through there for the first time late last August.
    My impression overall was that it is a beautiful state. Spend a
    couple of nights in Ashland, rode a boat around the Apostles, and saw
    a bunch of waterfalls and lighthouses before heading on up the
    Minnesota coast to Canada.


    i think you had a more minnestota experience than a wisconsin experience up there.

    There's a lot of waterfalls in northern Wisconsin. There's far more in Upper Michigan, though.

    what the hell is a pastie? one of those gas station things?

    A Pasty is basically a pastry with a meat and vegetable filling (usually meat, potatoes, turnips & onions). Miners would pack these for lunch, as they stay hot for an incredibly long time, and northern WI/Upper Michigan had a lot of mines in the 1800's, so it became a regional thing.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Daryl Stout on Tuesday, March 06, 2018 08:54:07
    Re: Facebook
    By: Daryl Stout to ISPYHUMANFLY on Wed Feb 28 2018 02:16 pm

    þ OLX 1.53 þ If you live in Hawaii, where do you go on vacation??

    As if Hawaii is the only place people would want to go on vacation? ;)

    Nightfox

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to NIGHTFOX on Tuesday, March 06, 2018 13:51:00
    þ OLX 1.53 þ If you live in Hawaii, where do you go on vacation??

    As if Hawaii is the only place people would want to go on vacation? ;)

    Really. From what I understand, you can NOT bring pets from the
    mainland when you travel. There's a travel ban, basically to avoid
    spreading rabies, etc.

    Daryl

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Daryl Stout on Tuesday, March 06, 2018 17:05:38
    Re: Hawaii tagline
    By: Daryl Stout to NIGHTFOX on Tue Mar 06 2018 01:51 pm

    þ OLX 1.53 þ If you live in Hawaii, where do you go on vacation??

    As if Hawaii is the only place people would want to go on vacation? ;)

    Really. From what I understand, you can NOT bring pets from the
    mainland when you travel. There's a travel ban, basically to avoid spreading rabies, etc.

    I didn't know that, but I'm not too surprised. I would assume people have pets in Hawaii though?

    Nightfox

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  • From Robert Wolfe@VERT/OTHETA to DARYL STOUT on Tuesday, March 06, 2018 08:45:00
    DARYL STOUT wrote to DENN <=-

    Never have tried Popeye's -- loved KFC's Cole Slaw, but it doesn't
    agree with my digestive tract anymore (just like corn), so I can't eat either one <SOB!!>. I liked it when they had the "boneless deals", but that didn't last long...those were off the menu after a short time.

    I have not had KFC in quite some time.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Denn on Tuesday, March 06, 2018 22:04:45
    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: Denn to MRO on Mon Mar 05 2018 09:49 pm

    Popeye's is actually pretty good. Still nothing'll touch the raw
    majesty of Roy Rogers for fried chicken.


    it depends on how fresh it is.



    i have had some bad popeyes. i actually had some that had NO seasoning. that was pure disgusting.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Tuesday, March 06, 2018 20:26:00
    A calzone?

    THAT'S IT!!!! :D

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Tuesday, March 06, 2018 20:28:00
    yeah that's out in the middle of nowhere, too.

    I tend to like the middle of nowhere. The only time I was in Wisconsin
    that I was not in the middle of nowhere was probably when I was in
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  • From Simulant@VERT/SIMULANT to Denn on Wednesday, March 07, 2018 05:54:17
    Re: SUBWAY
    By: Denn to MRO on Sat Mar 03 2018 09:03 am

    How often do they clean the gyro slicer blade? can you imagine all that tas
    tey
    bacteria that builds up on that?

    Maybe it is worse because you're watching them make it. The gyro probably doesn't get a wipe in Pizza Hut or Doms or anywhere behind the scenes?

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  • From Simulant@VERT/SIMULANT to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, March 07, 2018 06:12:49
    Re: Pizza Places
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Mon Mar 05 2018 06:29 pm

    I guess they could sell them at gas stations. It is a cornish/welsh thing, I think. It is like a whole meal folded inside a crust. Some are like pot pies, I guess, except you don't make them in a tin. Filled with meat and so
    me
    veggies, usually potato... when done right, they are very tasty.

    Yeah we love a good pasty here in the UK. There are maybe 10 or more takeout Pasty places in York where I live. More so than Starbucks or MacDonalds etc. Most have a Cornish/Cornwall theme. They have every filling. Lamb and mint sauce. Curried Vegetavles. Stilton/Blue cheese. Pork and cranberry. Sweet, savoury you name it haha!

    And great to eat on the move while walking around. :)
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  • From Simulant@VERT/SIMULANT to Nightfox on Wednesday, March 07, 2018 06:15:48
    Re: Pizza Places
    By: Nightfox to Dumas Walker on Mon Mar 05 2018 04:39 pm

    There is an italian pastry that is similar, but I cannot remember what they are called. They are usually full of tomato sauce and peperoni or sausage and, of course, cheese.

    A calzone?

    A pasty is just like a Spanish Empanada. Except empanadas are deep fried rather than baked like Cornish pasties.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Simulant on Wednesday, March 07, 2018 09:32:23
    Re: Pizza Places
    By: Simulant to Nightfox on Wed Mar 07 2018 06:15 am

    There is an italian pastry that is similar, but I cannot remember
    what they are called. They are usually full of tomato sauce and
    peperoni or sausage and, of course, cheese.

    A calzone?

    A pasty is just like a Spanish Empanada. Except empanadas are deep fried rather than baked like Cornish pasties.

    You're responding to an earlier question which was not being discussed in the part of the message you quoted..

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Robert Wolfe on Wednesday, March 07, 2018 09:35:23
    Re: Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: Robert Wolfe to DARYL STOUT on Tue Mar 06 2018 08:45 am

    I have not had KFC in quite some time.

    There's a combined KFC-A&W location near where I live, and I've gone there a few times recently but most often I order A&W food..

    I wish KFC still had their chicken nuggets that they used to sell a long time ago. Those were fairly tasty. I also liked their barbecue pulled chicken sandwich - I don't think they sell that anymore either.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Daryl Stout on Wednesday, March 07, 2018 09:36:40
    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: Daryl Stout to NIGHTFOX on Fri Mar 02 2018 10:24 am

    prefer something from KFC. I remember when KFC used to have chicken
    nuggets long time ago, which I really liked.. I wish they still had
    those.

    If you mean those boneless ones, I liked them as well. Unfortunately,
    they didn't last long on the menu.

    I've only ever had boneless chicken nuggets. I've never actually seen any chicken nuggets with bones..

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to NIGHTFOX on Wednesday, March 07, 2018 13:03:00
    As if Hawaii is the only place people would want to go on vacation? ;)

    Really. From what I understand, you can NOT bring pets from the
    mainland when you travel. There's a travel ban, basically to avoid spreading rabies, etc.

    I didn't know that, but I'm not too surprised. I would assume people have pe N>in Hawaii though?

    I would think so...but my question is, how do they get them there??

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to NIGHTFOX on Wednesday, March 07, 2018 13:07:00
    I've only ever had boneless chicken nuggets. I've never actually seen any N>chicken nuggets with bones..

    Or like the joke about frog legs...a bunch of frogs in wheelchairs and
    on crutches, as their legs are gone. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Daryl Stout on Wednesday, March 07, 2018 12:33:53
    Re: Hawaii tagline
    By: Daryl Stout to NIGHTFOX on Wed Mar 07 2018 01:03 pm

    Really. From what I understand, you can NOT bring pets from the
    mainland when you travel. There's a travel ban, basically to
    avoid spreading rabies, etc.

    I didn't know that, but I'm not too surprised. I would assume people
    have pe in Hawaii though?

    I would think so...but my question is, how do they get them there??

    Perhaps their pets were already there before the travel ban went into effect. And if they already had a population of pets, I'd suppose they could breed there too.

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  • From Jagossel@VERT/MTLGEEK to Nightfox on Wednesday, March 07, 2018 15:22:01
    Re: Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: Nightfox to Robert Wolfe on Wed Mar 07 2018 09:35:23

    There's a combined KFC-A&W location near where I live, and I've gone there a few times recently but most often I order A&W food..

    Is the A&W resturant not doing well? I only saw one, and that was a couple of years when I was traveling out-of-state somewhere.

    I wish KFC still had their chicken nuggets that they used to sell a long tim ago. Those were fairly tasty. I also liked their barbecue pulled chicken sandwich - I don't think they sell that anymore either.

    I guess they took off all of the good things off of their menu. Like I said, I miss their chicken wrap. I guess their customers are more interested in fried chicken more than anything else. <shrugs>

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to JAGOSSEL on Wednesday, March 07, 2018 15:45:00
    Is the A&W resturant not doing well? I only saw one, and that was a couple of J>years when I was traveling out-of-state somewhere.

    Not sure. The only one that was still in Arkansas that was in Hot
    Springs closed several years ago. I think there's still one in the
    Ravenna/Kent Ohio area...one of the area ham radio clubs has a
    "cruise-in" there each August.

    I guess they took off all of the good things off of their menu. Like I said, J>miss their chicken wrap. I guess their customers are more interested in fried J>chicken more than anything else. <shrugs>

    They are rebuilding one location in west Little Rock that burned to
    the ground last year. I think there might be one in North Little Rock,
    and one in Bryant. But, for all practical purposes, KFC is GONE from
    central Arkansas.

    Daryl

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Jagossel on Wednesday, March 07, 2018 14:57:41
    Re: Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: Jagossel to Nightfox on Wed Mar 07 2018 03:22 pm

    There's a combined KFC-A&W location near where I live, and I've gone
    there a few times recently but most often I order A&W food..

    Is the A&W resturant not doing well? I only saw one, and that was a couple of years when I was traveling out-of-state somewhere.

    I actually had the impression A&W might be growing.. A long time ago, I used to only see A&W restaurants when traveling out of state (as you said), but it seems A&W has been putting more locations in my area. And it seems they're usually combined with KFCs.

    Nightfox

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DAITENGU on Wednesday, March 07, 2018 18:23:00
    There's a lot of waterfalls in northern Wisconsin. There's far more in Upper >Michigan, though.

    Been to both. Would visit both again, when I get a chance. I love Lake Superior.

    A Pasty is basically a pastry with a meat and vegetable filling (usually meat,
    potatoes, turnips & onions). Miners would pack these for lunch, as they stay >hot for an incredibly long time, and northern WI/Upper Michigan had a lot of >mines in the 1800's, so it became a regional thing.

    Yes. Supposedly, it was brought over from folks in Corwall and/or Wales
    who were also miners.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to SIMULANT on Wednesday, March 07, 2018 18:35:00
    Yeah we love a good pasty here in the UK. There are maybe 10 or more takeout Pasty places in York where I live. More so than Starbucks or MacDonalds etc.

    One of my all-time favorite television programs, "Last of the Summer Wine,"
    was filmed in Yorkshire. Looks like a beautiful place.

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  • From Simulant@VERT/AMSTRAD to Nightfox on Wednesday, March 07, 2018 21:50:43
    Re: Pizza Places
    By: Nightfox to Simulant on Wed Mar 07 2018 09:32 am

    A calzone?

    A pasty is just like a Spanish Empanada. Except empanadas are deep frie
    d
    rather than baked like Cornish pasties.

    You're responding to an earlier question which was not being discussed in th
    e
    part of the message you quoted..

    Sorry about that, just thought the Empanada was much more like a Pasty than a Calzone. I love a good Empanada (my folks live in Spain). Apologies for misquoting.

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  • From Mickey@VERT/OXFORDMI to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, March 07, 2018 23:05:12
    Re: Pizza Places
    By: Dumas Walker to SIMULANT on Wed Mar 07 2018 06:35 pm

    One of my all-time favorite television programs, "Last of the Summer Wine," was filmed in Yorkshire. Looks like a beautiful place.


    It is. I was married there, back when the James Harriot books were popular. Beautiful countryside and villages.

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  • From Ed Vance@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Daryl Stout on Wednesday, March 07, 2018 22:51:00
    03-07-18 13:03 Daryl Stout wrote to NIGHTFOX about Hawaii tagline
    Howdy! Daryl and Nightfox,

    @VIA: VERT/TBOLT
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    As if Hawaii is the only place people would want to go on vacation? ;)

    Really. From what I understand, you can NOT bring pets from the mainland when you travel. There's a travel ban, basically to avoid spreading rabies, etc.

    I didn't know that, but I'm not too surprised. I would assume people have
    e
    in Hawaii though?

    I would think so...but my question is, how do they get them there??

    I think newly brought animals are quarinteened(sp) for a period and then released to their owners in Hawaii.

    My mind says I heard or saw on TV something about that many many Years ago.

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  • From Jagossel@VERT/MTLGEEK to Nightfox on Thursday, March 08, 2018 06:35:20
    Re: Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: Nightfox to Jagossel on Wed Mar 07 2018 14:57:41

    I actually had the impression A&W might be growing.. A long time ago, I use to only see A&W restaurants when traveling out of state (as you said), but i seems A&W has been putting more locations in my area. And it seems they're usually combined with KFCs.

    Did a quick search of A&W, and it appears that there are a few in this state, and it's all on the north-west side, near our neighboring states. Maybe I am way off bsse on how they are doing.

    The only thing I see KFC combine with around here is Long John Silvers.

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to NIGHTFOX on Thursday, March 08, 2018 09:51:00
    I actually had the impression A&W might be growing.. A long time ago, I used N>to only see A&W restaurants when traveling out of state (as you said), but it N>seems A&W has been putting more locations in my area. And it seems they're N>usually combined with KFCs.

    I love their root beer and root beer floats.

    Daryl

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  • From Nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to Mojo on Friday, March 09, 2018 16:14:21
    On Fri, 2 Mar 2018 16:08:13 -0500, "Mojo" <mojo@VERT/MOJO> wrote:

    Re: SUBWAY
    By: Nightfox to Jagossel on Fri Mar 02 2018 11:43 am

    I like Arby's sometimes, but I find their gyros to be rather funny, as they don't seem to spice the meat the way gyro meat is typically spiced. From what I remember, they also offer their gyro with the traditional Arby's roast beef, which is not prepared the way gyro meat is typically prepared..


    It has been a long time since I have bene to Arby's, I am a big fan of there >roast beef sandwiches. Now I do not know if they have changed since it has been
    over a year since I was last there. But one day soon I hope to go there again >and have me some roast beef sandwiches and I also like the potato cakes.


    I've not been to Arby's for ages and usually forgot about it as a fast
    food option because I don't think it's that good really. Maybe I
    should try it again sometime.

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  • From thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to Daryl Stout on Friday, March 09, 2018 10:18:38
    I actually had the impression A&W might be growing.. A long time ago, I used N>to only see A&W restaurants when traveling out of state (as you said), but it N>seems A&W has been putting more locations in my area. And it seems they're N>usually combined with KFCs.

    I love their root beer and root beer floats.


    Mmmmmm.... Root Beer Freeze!

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nelgin on Friday, March 09, 2018 16:56:26
    Re: Re: Arby's
    By: Nelgin to Mojo on Fri Mar 09 2018 04:14 pm

    it has been
    over a year since I was last there. But one day soon I hope to go there again >and have me some roast beef sandwiches and I also like the potato cakes.


    I've not been to Arby's for ages and usually forgot about it as a fast
    food option because I don't think it's that good really. Maybe I
    should try it again sometime.



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Nelgin on Friday, March 09, 2018 15:13:54
    Re: Re: Arby's
    By: Nelgin to Mojo on Fri Mar 09 2018 04:14 pm

    I've not been to Arby's for ages and usually forgot about it as a fast food option because I don't think it's that good really. Maybe I
    should try it again sometime.

    I like Arby's, but I suppose one negative I can think about it is that since their sandwiches are mainly just roast beef sandwiches, they're just meat and bun and don't have any vegetables on them.. With a hamburger, you at least also get some vegetables (may or may not include things like lettuce, tomato, pickles, onion, etc.).

    Nightfox

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to THUMPER on Friday, March 09, 2018 17:53:00
    I love their root beer and root beer floats.

    Mmmmmm.... Root Beer Freeze!

    Had a root beer float at Sonic the other day. It wasn't too bad, but
    I've had better.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to NELGIN on Friday, March 09, 2018 17:54:00
    I've not been to Arby's for ages and usually forgot about it as a fast
    food option because I don't think it's that good really. Maybe I
    should try it again sometime.

    I like their potato cakes, and both their chicken cordon bleu
    and turkey sandwiches aren't too bad -- although I like the Subway
    Club sandwich (turkey, ham, roast beef) much better.

    Daryl

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to thumper on Friday, March 09, 2018 17:03:46
    Re: Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: thumper to Daryl Stout on Fri Mar 09 2018 10:18 am

    I love their root beer and root beer floats.

    Mmmmmm.... Root Beer Freeze!

    If you put root beer in a square mug, does it become beer?

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Daryl Stout on Friday, March 09, 2018 17:05:44
    Re: Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: Daryl Stout to THUMPER on Fri Mar 09 2018 05:53 pm

    Had a root beer float at Sonic the other day. It wasn't too bad, but
    I've had better.

    I've had some of Sonic's shakes. They're not bad, but they taste like they're probably made from powder mixed with water rather than using real ice cream (similar to McDonald's shakes). I tend to prefer Dairy Queen shakes, as they're (probably still) made with real soft-serve ice cream.

    Nightfox

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to NIGHTFOX on Friday, March 09, 2018 22:29:00
    If you put root beer in a square mug, does it become beer?

    Sounds like a QWK tagline candidate. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Derision@VERT/AMIGAC to MRO on Monday, March 12, 2018 02:27:02
    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: MRO to Derision on Mon Mar 05 2018 22:50:45

    Popeye's is actually pretty good. Still nothing'll touch the raw majesty of Roy Rogers for fried chicken.

    it depends on how fresh it is.

    Oh lord, yes. Not talking any Turnpike rest area Roy Rogers... real stuff only!

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  • From Derision@VERT/AMIGAC to Nightfox on Monday, March 12, 2018 02:30:31
    Re: Hawaii tagline
    By: Nightfox to Daryl Stout on Wed Mar 07 2018 12:33:53

    Really. From what I understand, you can NOT bring pets from the DS>> mainland when you travel. There's a travel ban, basically to
    avoid spreading rabies, etc.

    I didn't know that, but I'm not too surprised. I would assume people
    have pe in Hawaii though?

    I would think so...but my question is, how do they get them there??

    Perhaps their pets were already there before the travel ban went into effect. And if they already had a population of pets, I'd suppose they could breed there too.

    I always thought that you could bring pets, but hey had to be in quaranteen for six months or so. So for most vacationers, it isn't worth it because you'll be back before they're even out of quaranteen. If you're moving there, though, you just have to hand them over for six months.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Derision on Monday, March 12, 2018 09:52:10
    Re: Hawaii tagline
    By: Derision to Nightfox on Mon Mar 12 2018 02:30 am

    Perhaps their pets were already there before the travel ban went into
    effect. And if they already had a population of pets, I'd suppose
    they could breed there too.

    I always thought that you could bring pets, but hey had to be in quaranteen for six months or so. So for most vacationers, it isn't worth it because you'll be back before they're even out of quaranteen. If you're moving there, though, you just have to hand them over for six months.

    I haven't known many people who bring their pets on vacation.. I don't even really like thinking about how pets would be treated on an airplane. I think they get stored in the cargo area for the flight?

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Derision on Monday, March 12, 2018 13:14:21
    Re: Hawaii tagline
    By: Derision to Nightfox on Mon Mar 12 2018 02:30 am

    I always thought that you could bring pets, but hey had to be in quaranteen for six months or so. So for most vacationers, it isn't worth it because you'll be back before they're even out of quaranteen. If you're moving there, though, you just have to hand them over for six months.

    Certain things have to be done, multiple rabies vaccines have to be given, The pet has to be microchipped, has to have a blood titer test, and needs to be treated for ticks, all at least 2-weeks to 3 months ahead of time. They also need documentation and health guarantees from a licensed veterinarian.

    Even after the above is done, the pet can be quarantined for up to 5 days. If the above is not done, the pet can be quarantined for up to 120 days. Most pets are released from the quarantine center within hours, however, assuming everything is in order.

    So, basically, yes you can take your pet on vacation to hawaii.

    DaiTengu

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Monday, March 12, 2018 19:56:07
    Re: Hawaii tagline
    By: Nightfox to Derision on Mon Mar 12 2018 09:52 am


    I haven't known many people who bring their pets on vacation.. I don't even really like thinking about how pets would be treated on an airplane. I think they get stored in the cargo area for the flight?



    mit romney did! some people dont want to go through the pain of having a house/pet sitter when they vacation. it's difficult for me and i vacationed 3x last year [they all sucked and it was the gf's idea]
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  • From HusTler@VERT/PHARCYDE to Daryl Stout on Tuesday, March 13, 2018 03:08:53
    Re: Re: Pizza Places
    By: Daryl Stout to NIGHTFOX on Sat Mar 03 2018 02:03 am

    Food wise, the burgers at Burger King are flame broiled, with the
    grease flowing into a drip pan. They're not "swimming in grease" like those at Wendy's, McDonald's, etc.


    How come I never see any flames when I'm in Burger King ??

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  • From HusTler@VERT/PHARCYDE to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, March 13, 2018 03:12:53
    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: Dumas Walker to HUSTLER on Sun Mar 04 2018 06:10 pm

    In the area I grew up in, you could catch a Taco Bell drive-thru open but, if it got too late, your only option was White Castle. Some of them were 24 hours. One we used to go to had some guy that would come in with a guitar and play while the late-nighters ate.

    Loved them "Belly Bombers"!!!

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to HUSTLER on Tuesday, March 13, 2018 18:56:00
    In the area I grew up in, you could catch a Taco Bell drive-thru open but, >DW> if it got too late, your only option was White Castle. Some of them were >DW> 24 hours. One we used to go to had some guy that would come in with a
    guitar and play while the late-nighters ate.

    Loved them "Belly Bombers"!!!

    We called 'em "sliders," but I have also heard that nickname for them. :)

    They hit the spot at 3AM. :D

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to HUSTLER on Tuesday, March 13, 2018 23:04:00
    Food wise, the burgers at Burger King are flame broiled, with the
    grease flowing into a drip pan. They're not "swimming in grease" like those at Wendy's, McDonald's, etc.

    How come I never see any flames when I'm in Burger King ??

    They are within the broiler itself. Take it from someone who worked
    for them for 5 years in central Arkansas nearly 40 year ago.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to HUSTLER on Tuesday, March 13, 2018 23:26:00
    In the area I grew up in, you could catch a Taco Bell drive-thru open bu if it got too late, your only option was White Castle. Some of them were 24 hours. One we used to go to had some guy that would come in with a guitar and play while the late-nighters ate.

    Loved them "Belly Bombers"!!!

    AKA "Gut Grenades". :) When I went to visit family in Nashville a
    couple of years ago, we went to White Castle for lunch. I ate a half
    dozen of them, an order of fries, and a large Coca-Cola to wash it all
    down. Then, I was full as a tick. :P

    But, I do love the sauteed onions.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to DUMAS WALKER on Wednesday, March 14, 2018 09:40:00
    Mike,

    Loved them "Belly Bombers"!!!

    We called 'em "sliders," but I have also heard that nickname for them. :)

    They hit the spot at 3AM. :D

    That they do. :) Which proves the saying "If they don't want us to
    have midnight snacks, why are there lights inside the
    refrigerator/freezer??". <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, March 14, 2018 09:46:59
    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: Dumas Walker to HUSTLER on Tue Mar 13 2018 06:56 pm

    Loved them "Belly Bombers"!!!

    We called 'em "sliders," but I have also heard that nickname for them. :)

    I hadn't heard the term "sliders" until relatively recently. And then when I heard that term, I always thought of the TV show..

    Nightfox

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to NIGHTFOX on Wednesday, March 14, 2018 19:04:00
    Loved them "Belly Bombers"!!!

    We called 'em "sliders," but I have also heard that nickname for them. :

    I hadn't heard the term "sliders" until relatively recently. And then when I N>heard that term, I always thought of the TV show..

    Arby's has "sliders" on their menu now, as well...but they're
    obviously different than what the White Castle ones are.

    Daryl

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  • From John Guillory@VERT/MAINLINE to MRO on Wednesday, March 14, 2018 19:33:00
    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: Derision to MRO on Mon Mar 12 2018 02:27 am

    Popeye's is actually pretty good. Still nothing'll touch the raw majesty of Roy Rogers for fried chicken.
    Assuming the under-paid girls who only care about talking to their boyfriends on their cellphones actually properly blended the chicken and seasoning together.... Otherwise you get a piece of chicken that taste like pure salt cubes, or red pepper, if you ordered the spicy chicken, then the rest of the chicken taste bland as can be, with absolutely no seasoning what soever!


    it depends on how fresh it is.

    Oh lord, yes. Not talking any Turnpike rest area Roy Rogers... real stuff only!
    Actually, I prefer Popeyes chicken not being so fresh.... It's easier to eat it quickly.... Doesn't burn your toung and lips with the fire -hot heat...

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Wednesday, March 14, 2018 23:23:01
    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: Nightfox to Dumas Walker on Wed Mar 14 2018 09:46 am

    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: Dumas Walker to HUSTLER on Tue Mar 13 2018 06:56 pm

    Loved them "Belly Bombers"!!!

    We called 'em "sliders," but I have also heard that nickname for them. :)

    I hadn't heard the term "sliders" until relatively recently. And then when I heard that term, I always thought of the TV show..



    in my region they didnt call them anything except white castle. the slider term became a buzzword maybe 10 years ago or so.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to John Guillory on Wednesday, March 14, 2018 23:29:27
    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: John Guillory to MRO on Wed Mar 14 2018 07:33 pm

    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: Derision to MRO on Mon Mar 12 2018 02:27 am

    Popeye's is actually pretty good. Still nothing'll touch the raw majesty of Roy Rogers for fried chicken.
    Assuming the under-paid girls who only care about talking to their boyfriends on their cellphones actually properly blended the chicken and seasoning together.... Otherwise you get a piece of chicken that taste like pure salt cubes, or red pepper, if you ordered the spicy chicken, then the rest of the chicken taste bland as can be, with absolutely no seasoning what soever!


    it depends on how fresh it is.

    Oh lord, yes. Not talking any Turnpike rest area Roy Rogers... real stuff only!
    Actually, I prefer Popeyes chicken not being so fresh.... It's easier to eat it quickly.... Doesn't burn your toung and lips with the fire -hot heat...


    i have had a couple bad runs with popeyes and considering it's not cheap, i think i am done with them. we had one ran by all black people and they knew their shit and the food was great but that one got fucked up too when they replaced staff.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DARYL STOUT on Wednesday, March 14, 2018 18:44:00
    That they do. :) Which proves the saying "If they don't want us to
    have midnight snacks, why are there lights inside the refrigerator/freezer??". <G>

    LOL, ain't that the truth! :D

    Mike

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Thursday, March 15, 2018 09:47:26
    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Wed Mar 14 2018 11:23 pm

    I hadn't heard the term "sliders" until relatively recently. And then
    when I heard that term, I always thought of the TV show..

    in my region they didnt call them anything except white castle. the slider term became a buzzword maybe 10 years ago or so.

    Ah.. We don't have any White Castles in my area, so maybe that's why I hadn't heard it until recently. I started seeing frozen White Castle burgers in stores a while ago though.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to John Guillory on Thursday, March 15, 2018 09:51:19
    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: John Guillory to MRO on Wed Mar 14 2018 07:33 pm

    Actually, I prefer Popeyes chicken not being so fresh.... It's easier to eat it quickly.... Doesn't burn your toung and lips with the fire -hot heat...

    Fresh still may be a bit better, after you let it cool down a bit. When I worked at Dairy Queen, in order to get fried chicken foods out fast (chicken sandwich, chicken strips), we actually "pre-cooked" it. The breaded chicken stuff was raw, so the fried chicken breasts took about 4 and a half minutes to cook and the chicken strips took about 3 and a half minutes to cook. We'd cook batches of those ahead of time and refrigerate them, so when someone ordered some, to re-heat them, we'd cook them (again) for only a minute and a half. For my lunch breaks, occasionally I had a fresh-cooked (first-cook 4 and a half minute) chicken sandwich, and it was more tender than when it was re-heated later for a minute and a half.

    Nightfox

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to DUMAS WALKER on Thursday, March 15, 2018 17:56:00
    Mike,

    That they do. :) Which proves the saying "If they don't want us to
    have midnight snacks, why are there lights inside the
    refrigerator/freezer??". <G>

    LOL, ain't that the truth! :D

    I saw a YouTube Video of these 2 cats, Cole (black) and Marmalade
    (orange and white)...and while Cole has mellowed out, Marmalade is still
    rather rambunctious. He figures that any human food is better than
    what's in his dish!!

    Anyway, his humans were prepping a turkey for dinner, and of course, Marmalade wanted a snack. He was told "No"...and the turkey was put in
    the icebox. In the dead of night, you see as if Cole and Marmalade have
    donned night vision goggles, they open the refrigerator door, and the
    caption is "Target Sighted!!". <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Chris@VERT/DMINE to Nightfox on Friday, March 16, 2018 10:17:11
    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: Nightfox to Dumas Walker on Wed Mar 14 2018 09:46 am

    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: Dumas Walker to HUSTLER on Tue Mar 13 2018 06:56 pm

    Loved them "Belly Bombers"!!!

    We called 'em "sliders," but I have also heard that nickname for them.

    I hadn't heard the term "sliders" until relatively recently. And then when heard that term, I always thought of the TV show..

    Nightfox


    I hadn't heard the term sliders until the Harold and Kumar White Castle movie came out. Never knew they were even a thing.

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to CHRIS on Saturday, March 17, 2018 18:27:00
    Chris,

    I hadn't heard the term sliders until the Harold and Kumar White Castle movie C>came out. Never knew they were even a thing.

    Besides "White Castle", I think Arby's and Chick-Fil-A has some sort
    of "sliders" on their menu.

    Daryl

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Daryl Stout on Saturday, March 17, 2018 22:24:41
    Re: Dennys And LaQuinta
    By: Daryl Stout to CHRIS on Sat Mar 17 2018 18:27:00

    Chris,

    I hadn't heard the term sliders until the Harold and Kumar White
    Castle movie came out. Never knew they were even a thing.

    Besides "White Castle", I think Arby's and Chick-Fil-A has some sort
    of "sliders" on their menu.

    The restrant is Krystal around here,, and we call them Gut Bombs..

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to KK4QBN on Sunday, March 18, 2018 21:52:00
    Tim,

    Besides "White Castle", I think Arby's and Chick-Fil-A has some sort
    of "sliders" on their menu.

    The restrant is Krystal around here,, and we call them Gut Bombs..

    Yep...have eaten them as well. But, there aren't any more Krystals in Arkansas.

    Daryl

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Android8675 on Wednesday, March 21, 2018 21:32:34
    Re: Facebook
    By: Android8675 to Nightfox on Wed Mar 21 2018 01:51 pm

    I remember the Palace chat where pictures were rooms and you could choose, steal or make your own avatar.
    I used to make avatars that blended in perfectly with the scenery and use a non printable character as my name then I would spoof people into thinking I was a wizard.
    I wonder if that is still around, BRB I'll go google it.
    Wow It's still around.
    http://www.thepalace.com/

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  • From Rockapella@VERT to VK3JED on Friday, March 23, 2018 13:04:00
    Rockapella wrote to VK3JED <=-

    Basically slow responsiveness and clumsy navigation, and on some road trips VK>(where I'm on a bus and have time to do stuff), no Internet access. There a VK>many roads not far from here with no 3G/4G Internet coverage.

    Makes sense. I definitely understand the advantage of having offline capabilities in these messages. In fact, even with the ability to telnet
    into Vert and read/respond there, I prefer downloading them and using
    SLMR simply because the navigation and workflow is a lot easier.

    Here is where something like Reddit gets more interesting as well: it is
    not only a web forum (though most users interact with it in that way).
    It is also a very robust web service. Because of this, there are a
    number of different applications that can communicate with Reddit, that
    were developed by third parties (for example, "Reddit is Fun" which is
    an alternative Android/iOS app for Reddit which some people prefer over
    the standard "Reddit" app).

    One could potentially use Reddit's API to write an offline reader for it
    that would work exactly like a more modern version of a QWK or USENET
    reader.

    Of course, the problem with doing that is that you would probably need a
    good way to either filter out the threads you want. Reddit subscription
    could help, but even within your subscriptions would be a metric
    fuck-ton of data you would have to store offline. Probably not a problem
    for PC-based offline access, but you might not want that much storage
    taken up on your phone or tablet.

    And the assumption is they won't mind the ingerent latency and generally slo VK>performance of these systems. One thing I used to like about offline mail w VK>that it consolidated all those data transfer delays into one block of severa VK>minutes or more, where you could go and make a coffee or do something else, VK>while that download was happening, unlike today where there's 5 seconds here VK>10 there and you just have to sit through it. :/

    Well, you're kind of comparing apples to oranges here, too. Any given
    web forum, at the very least, populates the entire page (or more) of information in one transfer. Web technology has done a pretty good job
    of adapting to the latency that is the inherent design of the internet.
    While the latency can be annoying if the web software is designed poorly
    and needs to constantly refresh, yeah, that's a problem. In the case of
    Reddit, most threads load the first 200 or 500 comments in whatever sort
    order you want when you open them. Once the page is loaded, it is
    essentially an offline-read because all the data is loaded (I've done
    exactly this with the Reddit app in the past - loaded a few threads that
    I was interested in, then went offline while travelling to read them.
    The only thing I couldn't do was reply to them).

    The thing is, the time to load a few hundred articles/comments is
    measured in seconds, not minutes (unless, again, you have a very
    particularly flaky connection), which is part of the reason why the idea
    of "offline reading" isn't really considered in the design these days.

    The design of most web forums is a big thing, a lot are crap to navigate.

    Absolutely agree, but in the same token, some BBS messaging systems are
    crap to navigate, as are some offline readers. That's a failing of the
    design of that particular software, not a necessarily a failing of the technology behind the software itself.

    I'll play with it more, but remain to be convinced. :)

    Absolutely - ultimately the beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I'm
    just speaking from my own impression of how the one major web forum I participate in compares to the BBS world. There are a couple of web
    forums that I participate in that are *absolutely* horrendous (for us
    Canadian Football League fans, 3Downnation.com is a particularly shitty
    one).

    Except back in the day, the waiting was in one big block and didn't have to VK>attended. Today it's a few seconds here and there. Multiply by hundreds of VK>messages...

    But that's not how it works with most web forums. A single load is not
    just one message after one message (unless it is an absolutely
    *horrendous* design). Almost all web forums I've ever seen load pages of comments in one load.

    Now, depending on the forum, you may be right in that it's seconds to
    reload because you've gone to a completely different *article* (again,
    that would be like a "To: All" message in BBS-land where it is an
    entirely new topic that someone started), but again there is an apples-to-oranges comparison that needs to be reconciled somewhat if you
    really want to make a fair comparison.

    On the flip side, on Reddit I can see a *lot* more threads, sorted by
    Threading is of limited use (see "thread drift").

    What I am referring to as "threading" in the Reddit/Web Forum sense
    isn't so much the continuation of a topic, but the track of replies to
    an original commenter who may have strayed into a different topic. This
    is particularly one area where I have never seen BBS messaging (or even
    Offline readers, though some do a better job than others here) do a good
    job of tracking that kind of "thread drift". Even here (which, I'd
    argue, is a good example of thread-drift, given that this whole
    conversation started as a discussion about Facebook), there's really no
    good way to see, at-a-glance, where you and I are continuing our
    conversation about Reddit and web technology vs. others continuing the discussion of Facebook's latest fiasco. Most BBS readers are very linear
    in how they present these messages, so you have to read (or at least
    scan) all of the messages in order to be able to track the conversation.

    At least some Newsreaders did a somewhat good job of presenting a
    reply-tree so that such threads could be tracked more easily, and I'm
    sure there are QWK readers that do this as well. SLMR (which I'll admit,
    I'm only using for nostalgic reasons because I used it back in my BBSing hayday), only shows groups of similar subjects.

    Reddit, however, groups and trees replies within their threads, so you
    can scan very easily (without jumping from reply to reply) to see the
    text within those reply trees so you can see more easily when a thread
    has drifted and whether you want to continue to follow it. Also, if you
    see a reply to one of your comments, or try to follow other "linked"
    comments, you can select to jump to the "Context" of that thread in its
    forum and see the tree that it sits in, as well as any other branches of
    the conversation that have happened (for example, someone else jumps
    into the conversation and starts their own "sub-thread"). There is
    really nothing in any BBS messaging system (offline or otherwise) that
    offers this.

    I don't pay mmuch attention to icons, some are hard to interpret.

    Well and that's fine - it is not a mandatory tool you have to use, it is
    just one that is there to make navigation easier for those who do choose
    to use it.

    have participated. I can expand some articles on the front page and give them a quick read, before deciding if I want to read further. I
    And I skim messages in probably less time! :)

    Very unlikely, as you would have to course through each message
    one-by-one (in a list of 50 to 200 at a time) in order to do so. All I
    have to do is roll the mouse wheel to scroll down the page and then
    click on whatever article I want to read.

    I managed to scan around 1000 messages/day routinely. :)
    Continued to next message
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    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Rockapella@VERT to VK3JED on Friday, March 23, 2018 13:04:00
    Continued from previous message
    But again, remember that those 1000 messages are inclusive of all the
    replies to threads that you're following. When I talk about "articles",
    I am referring to what the BBS world would have been a whole new subject
    (To: ALL). Each article could have as little as one or two comments
    (which each would be a separate message on a BBS), or the article could
    have several thousand comments.

    I'm basing it on my Fidonet experiences od 20+ years ago, when there WERE hi VK>traffic echoes. Today, other than the messages I actually reply to, the res VK>takes only a couple of minutes to read/scan (and that's 50-a few hundred VK>messages, usually.

    As am I. I used to run a BBS with Fidonet and was a hub for about a
    dozen different FTNs at the time and I was a heavy participant in a lot
    of echomail areas. I thought that GoldEd was the cats' ass at the time.
    I'm actually considering setting up a "point" on this machine just so
    that I can have my JAMbase back up and do my reading on GoldEd once
    again.

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    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Rockapella on Sunday, March 25, 2018 08:43:00
    Rockapella wrote to VK3JED <=-

    Makes sense. I definitely understand the advantage of having offline capabilities in these messages. In fact, even with the ability to
    telnet into Vert and read/respond there, I prefer downloading them and using SLMR simply because the navigation and workflow is a lot easier.

    We agree on that one. That's the same reason I use an offline reader. :)

    One could potentially use Reddit's API to write an offline reader for
    it that would work exactly like a more modern version of a QWK or
    USENET reader.

    Now this is the sort of thing I like to see, having an API exposed that would allow for alternative interfaces and clients to be developed.

    Of course, the problem with doing that is that you would probably need
    a good way to either filter out the threads you want. Reddit
    subscription could help, but even within your subscriptions would be a metric fuck-ton of data you would have to store offline. Probably not a problem for PC-based offline access, but you might not want that much storage taken up on your phone or tablet.

    Would be interesting to see how much. I'm not a developer, but I can certainly test if someone comes up with something like that, and with unlimited Internet at home, I won't care how much data there is initially. Will be good for assessing the feasibility of a mobule version. :) And I'd like to see more forum developers exposing an API for this sort of thing, perhaps some sort of standard might eventually evolve (one can only hope). At least that would allow mobile app developers.

    Well, you're kind of comparing apples to oranges here, too. Any given
    web forum, at the very least, populates the entire page (or more) of information in one transfer. Web technology has done a pretty good job
    of adapting to the latency that is the inherent design of the internet. While the latency can be annoying if the web software is designed
    poorly and needs to constantly refresh, yeah, that's a problem. In the case of Reddit, most threads load the first 200 or 500 comments in

    Yeah most forums I've used tend to have many short threads than fewer long ones, so yes, loading all of a thread is a huge advantage, and I like it, but in practice, that has been of relatively limited value, because the threads I tend to be interested in a numerous and short, and the long threads tend to go like those in Fidonet sysop echoes. :D Or if there are long threads that I am interested in, they are still numerous, and the read posts add to the latency, following multiple long threads. :)

    whatever sort order you want when you open them. Once the page is
    loaded, it is essentially an offline-read because all the data is
    loaded (I've done exactly this with the Reddit app in the past - loaded
    a few threads that I was interested in, then went offline while
    travelling to read them. The only thing I couldn't do was reply to
    them).

    I would need offline reply capability, because otherwise I'd probably forget (another of my quirks). :)

    The thing is, the time to load a few hundred articles/comments is
    measured in seconds, not minutes (unless, again, you have a very particularly flaky connection), which is part of the reason why the
    idea of "offline reading" isn't really considered in the design these days.

    Again, if the structure of the threads is conducive to that.

    The design of most web forums is a big thing, a lot are crap to navigate.

    Absolutely agree, but in the same token, some BBS messaging systems are crap to navigate, as are some offline readers. That's a failing of the design of that particular software, not a necessarily a failing of the technology behind the software itself.

    Yes, I certainly concede that point. Software design is critical - I wonder how a developer would handle me as a test subject, I am rather unusual in a few ways. :D

    I'll play with it more, but remain to be convinced. :)

    Absolutely - ultimately the beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I'm
    just speaking from my own impression of how the one major web forum I participate in compares to the BBS world. There are a couple of web
    forums that I participate in that are *absolutely* horrendous (for us Canadian Football League fans, 3Downnation.com is a particularly shitty one).

    I usually avoid them, because it's not worth the effort. The other problem I have with web forums is the proliferation of them, meaning having to remember to log into a gazillion web forums - what I call "login fatigue", and something that doesn't play nicely with the ADHD side of my nature. BBSs solved that problem too - setup a point or node to aggregate all feeds into one store, then either read on the system (telnet or GoldEd), or use an offline reader from there for the portability. :) If I enjoy a message net I simply join that network, add it to my system and read with the rest of my mail. :) Now if there was a way of aggregating web forums, that would be nice too! :)

    Except back in the day, the waiting was in one big block and didn't have to
    attended. Today it's a few seconds here and there. Multiply by hundreds
    f
    messages...

    But that's not how it works with most web forums. A single load is not just one message after one message (unless it is an absolutely *horrendous* design). Almost all web forums I've ever seen load pages
    of comments in one load.

    Again, are those the posts you need to read or are they "old hat"? Is there a forum that can only load "unread posts in a thread" by default, but give an option to load older comments?

    Now, depending on the forum, you may be right in that it's seconds to reload because you've gone to a completely different *article* (again, that would be like a "To: All" message in BBS-land where it is an
    entirely new topic that someone started), but again there is an apples-to-oranges comparison that needs to be reconciled somewhat if
    you really want to make a fair comparison.

    Depends on traffic (see above).

    On the flip side, on Reddit I can see a *lot* more threads, sorted by
    Threading is of limited use (see "thread drift").

    What I am referring to as "threading" in the Reddit/Web Forum sense
    isn't so much the continuation of a topic, but the track of replies to
    an original commenter who may have strayed into a different topic. This
    is particularly one area where I have never seen BBS messaging (or even Offline readers, though some do a better job than others here) do a

    On that I agree, and that's what I tend to track well. I'm not your average brain there. I'm particularly good at seeing patterns and have unusually strong recognition, which has allowed me to keep ahead of things like Internet scams, spam, hoaxes, etc, even ones I had never seen before, because of the attempts at deception required to pull off the scams. Pity there's no way to incorporate it into a spam filter. :) But yes, I haven't seen a machine based way to deal with threading or any of of the things I've mentioned in this paragraph that comes close (which is my limit of acceptability).

    It's a human issue, and I think it needs a human to read the posts. :)

    At least some Newsreaders did a somewhat good job of presenting a reply-tree so that such threads could be tracked more easily, and I'm
    sure there are QWK readers that do this as well. SLMR (which I'll
    admit, I'm only using for nostalgic reasons because I used it back in
    my BBSing hayday), only shows groups of similar subjects.

    Multimail groups subject by default, which is easy for skipping those threads that have hopelessly drifted. :) As I pointed out above, nothing's perfect, this is the vagueness of people. :D

    Very unlikely, as you would have to course through each message
    one-by-one (in a list of 50 to 200 at a time) in order to do so. All I have to do is roll the mouse wheel to scroll down the page and then
    click on whatever article I want to read.

    And scrolling is a pet hate, tends to be the biggest thing to give me RSI. :) I preferred the old fashioned page up/page down keys for scrolling. :)


    ... See if you can guess which drink will make me love you.
    --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.au
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Rockapella on Sunday, March 25, 2018 08:45:00
    Rockapella wrote to VK3JED <=-

    @VIA: VERT
    Continued from previous message
    But again, remember that those 1000 messages are inclusive of all the replies to threads that you're following. When I talk about "articles",
    I am referring to what the BBS world would have been a whole new
    subject (To: ALL). Each article could have as little as one or two comments (which each would be a separate message on a BBS), or the
    article could have several thousand comments.

    True (see long thread vs short thread in the previous post :) ).

    I'm basing it on my Fidonet experiences od 20+ years ago, when there WERE
    i
    traffic echoes. Today, other than the messages I actually reply to, the
    es
    takes only a couple of minutes to read/scan (and that's 50-a few hundred
    messages, usually.

    As am I. I used to run a BBS with Fidonet and was a hub for about a
    dozen different FTNs at the time and I was a heavy participant in a lot
    of echomail areas. I thought that GoldEd was the cats' ass at the time. I'm actually considering setting up a "point" on this machine just so
    that I can have my JAMbase back up and do my reading on GoldEd once
    again.

    If I had a BBS or point on this machine, I'd use GoldEd too. I used to like it. But the fact the BBS is headless, and also I tend to use multiple devices makes offline mail a better fit at this time. :)


    ... Apathy Error: Strike any key...or none, for that matter.
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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to NIGHTFOX on Tuesday, March 27, 2018 18:10:00
    That's true. But I think user validation is more for preventing abuse via N>creating multiple accounts (though I suppose a person could easily create N>multiple email addresses and use those for validation).

    Well, if I see dupe accounts, all of them will get locked out. The
    only account where I allow simultaneous logons is "Guest".

    Over 30 years ago, one Sysop had just finished creating a bulletin
    called "The Thankless Job -- The Life Of A Sysop". Basically, he
    wondered "why do I keep doing this, and getting all the abuse??". It
    finished with the rare exceptions of a few users who THANKED THEM
    PROFUSELY for what they were providing.

    Sadly, 24 hours after he wrote that, he found out that a close friend,
    with higher than normal access, had shared their logon. He lamented
    "That's forbidden...but it hurts even more, because a trusted friend who
    knew better, went ahead and did it". He then shut his system down, and I
    think got rid of his computer, and never logged on to a BBS again.

    I agree. I think part of the fun of running a BBS is creating it yourself. N>someone else does all the work, I don't think it's really your BBS that you'r N>running. Also, in a way, if you're just going to run a BBS that someone else N>has done all the work for, that's similar to just setting up a stock BBS and N>running it as-is. It's good to put in the work to make the BBS your own.

    Exactly. If someone does the work, it's THEIR setup, and NOT yours.
    Now, if someone does assist in an area of the BBS, I will gladly and
    eagerly "give credit to where credit is due"...as long as I know who to
    give it to. I have a bulletin on the BBS about the "Donations
    Policy"...which also has "A Note Of Thanks"...to many folks over the
    users, who made the BBS what it is today. Many of them are either no
    longer on BBS's, or they've passed away.

    Daryl

    ---
    þ OLX 1.53 þ Is there ever a day when mattresses are NOT on sale?
    þ Synchronet þ DoveNet: The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to NIGHTFOX on Tuesday, March 27, 2018 18:10:00
    Well I'm not sure I'm in the camp that believes that letting someone use your N>BBS is equivalent to letting them into your home. Some people don't even hos N>their BBS at home.. These days, I've heard of people hosting their BBS on N>cloud services. But aside from that, if someone uses your BBS, they still ha N>fairly limited power, especially if you're using a dedicated BBS machine.

    I've always run my BBS as a hobby...and as a labor of love. After my
    wife and Co-Sysop passed away nearly 11 years ago, I continue it in her
    memory.

    I think a BBS package like Synchronet has fairly good protections against N>someone accessing something outside the BBS on your network. For instance, N>I've seen a lot of instances where bots try to repeatedly log in as 'root', b N>since there's no user named root, they just won't be able to log into the BBS N>And if there did happen to be a user called root, they'd just be a regular BB N>user and wouldn't have any special power.

    Kudos to Digital Man and all the others who work with Synchronet, and
    taking care of the security aspects. I saw one comment from him in
    relation to that, which noted "When we are alerted to a security issue,
    we fix it quickly, and quietly". :)

    Daryl

    ---
    þ OLX 1.53 þ It usually takes weeks to prepare an impromptu speech.
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  • From Rockapella@VERT to Vk3jed on Sunday, April 01, 2018 11:02:00
    Vk3jed wrote to Rockapella <=-

    Happy Easter!

    Sorry for the late replies to you - been burning the midnight oil at
    work the last couple of weeks, so have been intentionally ignoring my
    computers at home and all the messages.

    Now this is the sort of thing I like to see, having an API exposed that would allow for alternative interfaces and clients to be developed.

    It would be interesting to see if it could be done. Theoretically it
    shouldn't be too hard (relatively speaking) as most modern programming languages nowadays have an extensive JSON library available. I'm not really much of a developer, either, but I am a bit familiar with Java and C#
    and did take some CompSci classes a decade ago. I am much more of a
    database nerd than a programming nerd. :)

    Would be interesting to see how much. I'm not a developer, but I can certainly test if someone comes up with something like that, and with unlimited Internet at home, I won't care how much data there is
    initially. Will be good for assessing the feasibility of a mobule version. :) And I'd like to see more forum developers exposing an API
    for this sort of thing, perhaps some sort of standard might eventually evolve (one can only hope). At least that would allow mobile app developers.

    I was thinking more along the lines of limitations of storage rather
    than bandwidth in downloading the content. Mobile devices would
    definitely feel the pinch of such an offline system if it were just to bulk-download everything new in a day for a particularly busy forum.

    Not sure what a standard would look like for something like this, other
    than the existing standard of the libraries behind the web service
    (JSON and HTTP). For better or worse, most web forums are unique to the
    point that I don't think a standard interface would be particularly
    useful or desirable. The problem with "standards" is always that they
    are a compromise and make extensibility difficult.

    Yeah most forums I've used tend to have many short threads than fewer
    long ones, so yes, loading all of a thread is a huge advantage, and I
    like it, but in practice, that has been of relatively limited value, because the threads I tend to be interested in a numerous and short,
    and the long threads tend to go like those in Fidonet sysop echoes. :D
    Or if there are long threads that I am interested in, they are still numerous, and the read posts add to the latency, following multiple
    long threads. :)

    That makes sense, and I can definitely see where downloading multiple
    short threads offline would be very useful to reduce the latency that
    comes with loading every new thread.

    The only thing I couldn't do was reply to them.
    I would need offline reply capability, because otherwise I'd probably forget (another of my quirks). :)

    Same here - would also be nice if the original linked article (for
    threads that start with a link rather than text, which many Reddit
    articles do) would be pre-loaded somehow so that you could have some
    background to refer to on the thread.

    Yes, I certainly concede that point. Software design is critical - I wonder how a developer would handle me as a test subject, I am rather unusual in a few ways. :D

    If my work writing reports and dashboards is any indication, the picky
    test subjects are often the most fun to work with (as long as they
    are open to change and experimentation). The most interesting projects
    I've had to undergo were customizations to satisfy "unusual"
    requirements.

    Again, are those the posts you need to read or are they "old hat"? Is there a forum that can only load "unread posts in a thread" by default, but give an option to load older comments?

    That is definitely a negative, and that's a very good point you bring
    up. There is no real good way to filter out "read" comments, even on
    Reddit, so if you leave a thread and come back later, you really have to
    browse through all the comments that you may have already read to find
    anything new. I've thought about how this particular issue could be
    resolved (without the inefficiency of you, as a reader, having to "mark" threads as read manually), and haven't really been able to think of a
    solution that doesn't involve "linear" reading a'la BBS messaging forums
    or newsreaders.

    At least some Newsreaders did a somewhat good job of presenting a reply-tree so that such threads could be tracked more easily, and I'm
    sure there are QWK readers that do this as well. SLMR (which I'll
    admit, I'm only using for nostalgic reasons because I used it back in
    my BBSing hayday), only shows groups of similar subjects.

    (funnily enough, I've switched to MultiMail for these replies because
    SLMR has a line-limit per message that this thread has now reached).

    Multimail groups subject by default, which is easy for skipping those threads that have hopelessly drifted. :) As I pointed out above, nothing's perfect, this is the vagueness of people. :D

    Very, very nod.

    And scrolling is a pet hate, tends to be the biggest thing to give me
    RSI. :) I preferred the old fashioned page up/page down keys for scrolling. :)

    I do the PgUp/PgDown thing often, too. I got a particularly good
    scrolling mouse a few months ago though (Logitech MX Master - fantastic
    mouse), so I find I'm using the scroll wheel a lot more nowadays than I
    used to.

    --- MultiMail/MS-DOS v0.49
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Rockapella@VERT to Vk3jed on Sunday, April 01, 2018 11:05:00
    Vk3jed wrote to Rockapella <=-

    If I had a BBS or point on this machine, I'd use GoldEd too. I used to like it. But the fact the BBS is headless, and also I tend to use multiple devices makes offline mail a better fit at this time. :)

    I remember when TimEd came out as freeware and a lot of people running
    point systems started using it and liking it a lot. I wasn't a huge fan
    of it, but it definitely had a following, especially with some of the
    older people who were using it on some of the networks in which I
    participated.

    GoldEd was one of the few pieces of shareware I actually paid to
    register as a teenager (was a pain at the time because I didn't have a
    chequing account, so had to ask my parents to write cheques for things
    like that). I was stoked when my registration came in, even though I
    recall that I used literally zero "registered" features.

    ... The number you have dailed...Nine-one-one...has been changed.
    --- MultiMail/MS-DOS v0.49
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Rockapella on Monday, April 02, 2018 07:37:00
    Rockapella wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Happy Easter!

    Happy Easter back! :D

    Sorry for the late replies to you - been burning the midnight oil at
    work the last couple of weeks, so have been intentionally ignoring my computers at home and all the messages.

    Understandable. ;)

    Now this is the sort of thing I like to see, having an API exposed that would allow for alternative interfaces and clients to be developed.

    It would be interesting to see if it could be done. Theoretically it shouldn't be too hard (relatively speaking) as most modern programming languages nowadays have an extensive JSON library available. I'm not really much of a developer, either, but I am a bit familiar with Java
    and C# and did take some CompSci classes a decade ago. I am much more
    of a database nerd than a programming nerd. :)

    Yeah, I'm not much of a programmer either. Was quite good in the DOS days, but then discovered it wasn't good for my head, and walked away from it. Life's change a lot since then, and it's a lot harder to get the focus up to take up occasional coding as a hobby. :/ I'm more a networking nerd (when I'm not a jock! - yes, I am heavily involved in sport these days :) ).

    I was thinking more along the lines of limitations of storage rather
    than bandwidth in downloading the content. Mobile devices would
    definitely feel the pinch of such an offline system if it were just to bulk-download everything new in a day for a particularly busy forum.

    Yeah, that could be an issue. Wonder how much content a particularly busy forum generates. Has anyone measured it in MB/day or GB/day?

    Not sure what a standard would look like for something like this, other than the existing standard of the libraries behind the web service
    (JSON and HTTP). For better or worse, most web forums are unique to the point that I don't think a standard interface would be particularly
    useful or desirable. The problem with "standards" is always that they
    are a compromise and make extensibility difficult.

    Well, it seems a lot of web forums can have code added to present a standardised web services interface. That seems to be how Tapatalk (a mobile forum reading app) does it - the forum administrator adds some scripts (forum package specific) that allow Tapatalk to work with their forum. Tapatalk isn't bad, except for me it's still online and still feels like sucking treacle through a straw when accessing content (like web forums usually do :D ). But that might give some hints as to how it could be done.

    That makes sense, and I can definitely see where downloading multiple short threads offline would be very useful to reduce the latency that comes with loading every new thread.

    It's the same on here, this is one of many threads, but in this QWK packet, it's only a post or two. A lot of my forum activity has been (currently, my head's not in place to deal with them ;) ) similar. )

    Same here - would also be nice if the original linked article (for
    threads that start with a link rather than text, which many Reddit articles do) would be pre-loaded somehow so that you could have some background to refer to on the thread.

    Yes, that would be nice, though I can understand why it might not be done.

    Yes, I certainly concede that point. Software design is critical - I wonder how a developer would handle me as a test subject, I am rather unusual in a few ways. :D

    If my work writing reports and dashboards is any indication, the picky test subjects are often the most fun to work with (as long as they
    are open to change and experimentation). The most interesting projects I've had to undergo were customizations to satisfy "unusual"
    requirements.

    I admit I do enjoy testing software. :)

    Again, are those the posts you need to read or are they "old hat"? Is there a forum that can only load "unread posts in a thread" by default, but give an option to load older comments?

    That is definitely a negative, and that's a very good point you bring
    up. There is no real good way to filter out "read" comments, even on Reddit, so if you leave a thread and come back later, you really have
    to browse through all the comments that you may have already read to
    find anything new. I've thought about how this particular issue could
    be resolved (without the inefficiency of you, as a reader, having to "mark" threads as read manually), and haven't really been able to think
    of a solution that doesn't involve "linear" reading a'la BBS messaging forums or newsreaders.

    And that's a major pain. Some web forums (e.g. SMF) at least allow you to show newest posts first, which can save a lot of scrolling and I don't mmind that order, but that means the system for tracking last reads must be spot on, and some aren't - I've had one where you mark a board as read, and it marks all the theads as read, but all the posts get marked unread within each thread! (arrrgh!).

    At least some Newsreaders did a somewhat good job of presenting a reply-tree so that such threads could be tracked more easily, and I'm
    sure there are QWK readers that do this as well. SLMR (which I'll
    admit, I'm only using for nostalgic reasons because I used it back in
    my BBSing hayday), only shows groups of similar subjects.

    Agree re newsreaders, some do a reasonable job, and for me, offline newsreaders have a nicer "feel" (again, lack of network lag - it _really_ bugs me!). I used an offline newsreader on iOS for a while, was nice, except having to kep downloaded articles and last read pointers in sync with my main (QWK) reading was a pain. :)

    I started with SLMR and quite liked it, but fairly soon I switched to Bluewave and used Bluewave format packets. I did like SLME better than Ted, so I used SLME as my editor in Bluewave.

    (funnily enough, I've switched to MultiMail for these replies because
    SLMR has a line-limit per message that this thread has now reached).

    Haha, I'm already using Multimail, so I never noticed the limit. :D

    I do the PgUp/PgDown thing often, too. I got a particularly good
    scrolling mouse a few months ago though (Logitech MX Master - fantastic mouse), so I find I'm using the scroll wheel a lot more nowadays than I used to.

    Might have to look that mouse up. :)


    ... No user-serviceable parts inside (or outside).
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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Rockapella on Monday, April 02, 2018 07:41:00
    Rockapella wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I remember when TimEd came out as freeware and a lot of people running point systems started using it and liking it a lot. I wasn't a huge fan
    of it, but it definitely had a following, especially with some of the older people who were using it on some of the networks in which I participated.

    I never used Timed, but I do remember seeing it in tearlines.

    GoldEd was one of the few pieces of shareware I actually paid to
    register as a teenager (was a pain at the time because I didn't have a chequing account, so had to ask my parents to write cheques for things like that). I was stoked when my registration came in, even though I recall that I used literally zero "registered" features.

    I was unemployed for the first few years of my BBSing, so paying for shareware wasn't high on my priority list at the time, but yes, there was a buzz when registration came through. I used to use postal money orders to pay for things by mail back in those days. It's so much easier now. :)

    ... The number you have dailed...Nine-one-one...has been changed.

    Oh dear. :D


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