In all this talk about the early days where BBSes were overtaken by the internet in 1995, has anyone thought about the fact that you could log in once to your ISP, then never have to deal with control freaks asking for real names, birthdays, mailing addresses, callback verifiers, no swearing rules, and complaining about you being a guest in their "house"?
In all this talk about the early days where BBSes were overtaken by the internet in 1995, has anyone thought about the fact that you could log in once to your ISP, then never have to deal with control freaks asking for real names, birthdays, mailing addresses, callback verifiers, no swearing rules, and complaining about you being a guest in their "house"?
In all this talk about the early days where BBSes were overtaken by the >internet in 1995, has anyone thought about the fact that you could log in once >to your ISP, then never have to deal with control freaks asking for real names,
birthdays, mailing addresses, callback verifiers, no swearing rules, and >complaining about you being a guest in their "house"?
In all this talk about the early days where BBSes were overtaken by
the internet in 1995, has anyone thought about the fact that you
could log in once to your ISP, then never have to deal with control
freaks asking for real names, birthdays, mailing addresses, callback
verifiers, no swearing rules, and complaining about you being a
guest in their "house"?
You called some shitty BBSes if that was your experience.
i do however think that sysops not adapting and meeting up with some of what the web and internet offered contributed to bbses' downfall.
Quoting Nightfox to DaiTengu <=-
discussion on Dove-Net recently about whether sysops really need to ask peoples' real names, birthdays, etc. particularly with an internet BBS,
I this he was possibly being sarcastic. There has been some discussion on Dove-Net recently about whether sysops really need to ask peoples' real names, birthdays, etc. particularly with an internet BBS, as well as mention of BBS users being a "guest in their house".
I ask for "A Real Name" - anything that sounds like a real name, but only if you want access to fightonet. If you don't, you don't have to provide it. I could care less. ;)
No sarcasm this time, although you'd be safe to bet on sarcasm with my posts.
In the 80s and 90s, BBSes in 415 fell into a couple of buckets. There were the "My House" boards with callback verifiers, rules, and authoritarian sysops. Some of those were multi-line subscription BBSes. There were the deep underground boards with NUPs, and the stealthy boards where you'd have an upright looking BBS with messages and shareware - unless you knew the 1337 password.
The BBSes that were trying to be a business, and BBSes with callback verifiers and "not in my house" sysops went first.
Quoting poindexter FORTRAN to Tiny <=-
Then, he wanted the net to pay for a dedicated PC and high-speed modem "for the network".
I don't think we ever broke the news to him that they were the same person.
In the 80s and 90s, BBSes in 415 fell into a couple of buckets.
There were the "My House" boards with callback verifiers, rules, and
authoritarian sysops. Some of those were multi-line subscription
I can sort of understand the "my house" argument, but at the same time, I don't. They haven't actually entered your house, they're basically just
Re: BBSes, the internet and control?
By: Hustler to Nightfox on Sat Dec 09 2017 10:29:55
You know that makes me think of something. Maybe if ISP`s could incorporate some kind of "handle" for each person that goes on social media, maybe the Internet would get less shit, hatred, trolling, harrasement or in other words you wouldn't see stuff in front of others like you do on the Internet.
I can imagine the "freedom of speech" arguement kicking in really easily but last I heard in china thats what they kinda doing right now. you have to give in your real personal info when you go on social media and you have no choice. That way it gives the authority some kind of power when you shit all over the place.
I can imagine the "freedom of speech" arguement kicking in really easily but last I heard in china thats what they kinda doing right now. you have to give in your real personal info when you go on social media and you have no choice. That way it gives the authority some kind of power when you shit all over the place.
You know that makes me think of something. Maybe if ISP`s couldincorporate
some kind of "handle" for each person that goes on social media, maybethe
Internet would get less shit, hatred, trolling, harrasement or in other words you wouldn't see stuff in front of others like you do on the Internet.but
I can imagine the "freedom of speech" arguement kicking in really easily
last I heard in china thats what they kinda doing right now. you have to give in your real personal info when you go on social media and youhave no
choice. That way it gives the authority some kind of power when youshit
all over the place.
The book/movie The Circle (the book moreso) described a world where The Circle was a company that was a combination of Google, PayPal and Facebook. Since your payments and social networking was tied to a real identity, the author figured people would act less like cocks.
DAITENGU wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-
In all this talk about the early days where BBSes were overtaken by the internet in 1995, has anyone thought about the fact that you could log in once to your ISP, then never have to deal with control freaks asking for real names, birthdays, mailing addresses, callback verifiers, no swearing rules, and complaining about you being a guest in their "house"?
You called some shitty BBSes if that was your experience.
While yes, some did insist on callback verifiers, real names, etc, but them were the rules. All the Sysops in my area were friendly and happy
to chat with their users. They went out of their way to accomodate
them, making changes and implementing things when asked.
NIGHTFOX wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-
I can sort of understand the "my house" argument, but at the same time,
I don't. They haven't actually entered your house, they're basically
just using a server machine you have set up. These days especially, a
BBS doesn't really even need to be physically located in your house -
It could be hosted somewhere. You never hear about people with web
sites talking about the visitirs being in their house.
MRO wrote to BIGBANGNET <=-
i'd like to see people to stop being such cry babies. nobody forces
them to look at shit or get into conflicts with people.
Same here - I don't remember any around me that did that, and the two multi-line BBS's locally went WAY out of their way to be accomodating!
Even for 'non paid' users!
JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to DAITENGU <=-
While yes, some did insist on callback verifiers, real names, etc, but them were the rules. All the Sysops in my area were friendly and happy
to chat with their users. They went out of their way to accomodate
them, making changes and implementing things when asked.
Same here - I don't remember any around me that did that, and the two multi-line BBS's locally went WAY out of their way to be accomodating! Even for 'non paid' users!
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
I was in a pretty busy area - the San Francisco bay area nodelist had close to 250 systems in 1993. I ran into a handful of control freak boards, a good selection of more easy-going non-commercial boards, a handful of commercial multi-line systems and 3 or 4 good pirate
systems.
We nevr had paid users, the system was free, though occasiolnally, someone would donate a few dollars to help with expenses.
Ennev wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Back in the 1980's mine was paying, but I was a teenager with little resource, so just to being able to pay the phone bill I had to resort
to that. Price was fair people knew the money was going. And it was
like THE bbs in that area, none other. It was a rural area so it's not like the populations required more.
When I moved to the larger city area I didn't started one because
others where up already and I woudln't have filled a gap. Was already using CompuServe ( 70745,1142 ) so I was less attracted to look out for bbses, bbses I've forsaken you in the 90's :-(
there was an active pirate community too, though only known through word of mouth. Some of the pirates from thos part of the world did achieve notoriety in the hacking/phreaking scene.
where up already and I woudln't have filled a gap. Was already using CompuServe ( 70745,1142 ) so I was less attracted to look out for bbses,
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I loved the Forum pirate BBSes that had a facade -- it would look like
a G-rated shareware BBS until you hit the secret menu. Then, the file areas and the menus changed... take the Red Pill!
75300,1375. Isn't it funny how those IDs stick in your head? I worked for a company with a support forum on Compuserve, so we got 3 unmetered accounts. I was a Netware admin at the time and all of Novell's support was on CIS back then...
I think I hear sometime Leo Laporte say his from time to time on his network. It got really in our heads. Usernames? you where a number :-)
It's true that for support it was the place, it was usenet before it got widely accessible, then they managed to give access to usenet, but the forums where great, faster and more interactive.
JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to DAITENGU <=-
While yes, some did insist on callback verifiers, real names, etc, but them were the rules. All the Sysops in my area were friendly and happy to chat with their users. They went out of their way to accomodate them, making changes and implementing things when asked.
I did occasionally call users, mainly for access to adult areas. Real names were preferred for the system records, though the bulk of message areas used handles and aliases, and users were welcome to use those where permitted.
Same here - I don't remember any around me that did that, and the two multi-line BBS's locally went WAY out of their way to be accomodating! Even for 'non paid' users!
We nevr had paid users, the system was free, though occasiolnally, someone would donate a few dollars to help with expenses.
... Straighten up the house? When did it become tilted?
Articulas wrote to All <=-
Back in the day I had a BBS with a very large Adult section. If you
wanted access to the adult section I needed two things (cause NY is
very strict), 1 to see our ID and 2 a waiver of that you are
responsible for logs on to your account. You are responsible for what
you upload. Never charged a fee but posted name and address with a
request for donations. It paid the phone bill.
No point really, just a cruise down memory lane.
request for donations. It paid the phone bill.Sounds like a good arrangement.
No point really, just a cruise down memory lane.Nothing wrong with that. :-)
Hawkeye wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Aren't we all here for the memories! I love to share those and read
those!
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