• Retro gaming

    From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to All on Thursday, November 30, 2017 09:52:12
    Is anyone here into retro gaming? A few years ago, I bought one of these GCW Zero handheld game systems:
    http://www.gcw-zero.com
    The GCW Zero is an open-source handheld console (it runs a customized distribution of Linux), with the idea that you can customize it how you want. There's a selection of games available for it, including emulators for various older game consoles as well as some native games written for it. There don't seem to be very many developers who have written apps/games for it, so the selection of apps isn't huge (relative to the time the GCW Zero has been available), but if you're into emulation, I think there's a decent amount of emulators to make it worth it at least for that. The gcw-zero.com site has a list of apps available in the Downloads section.

    I like the GCW Zero, but I've noticed there are plenty of other options out there as well, in addition to just running an emulator on your PC. I think having a handheld system designed specifically for gaming adds more of a retro feel though. I've also seen handheld emulators that can use actual game cartridges for NES, SNES, etc.

    Recently I played a few games on an actual Super Nintendo, and it seemed like the controls were more responsive than some of the more modern emulation devices I've used (such as the Wii's Virtual Console), although I'm not sure if they were really more responsive or if it was just my imagination.. I've wondered if the Wii's wireless controllers have a delay, although when playing Wii games, it seems there isn't a real noticeable delay.

    Nightfox

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Nightfox on Thursday, November 30, 2017 16:28:44
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Nightfox to All on Thu Nov 30 2017 09:52 am

    Is anyone here into retro gaming? A few years ago, I bought one of these

    Every time I try to set up an emulator, or play some of my favorite "retro" games, They're just nowhere near as fun as I remember them being. I would feed quarters into SmashTV and the TMNT arcade games, but playing them at home just isn't the same. Maybe it's because I'm on a PC, maybe I need the full arcade machine experience, I don't know.

    I keep thinking of building a full-sized MAME arcade machine, because it would be something cool to have in my basement. Maybe someday....

    I bought the Nintendo Wii years ago and picked up some of the classic SNES games for it. I enjoyed playing some of the classic Mario games, but I tired of it quickly. Games I would sit in front of and waste hours playing didn't seem as fun as they were back then.

    I dunno, maybe it's me. As I get older I play fewer and fewer games. I have a Steam library that most people would be jealous of, and I've barely played 1/4 of the games I own. The only game that has held my attention recently is Horizon: Zero Dawn on the PS4. I put hours and hours into that game, I love it. I'm currently working my way through the expansion that was released about a month ago.

    So, as much as I love the idea of retro-gaming, actually playing retro games is a bit of a let-down for me.

    DaiTengu

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to DaiTengu on Thursday, November 30, 2017 17:01:38
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: DaiTengu to Nightfox on Thu Nov 30 2017 04:28 pm

    Every time I try to set up an emulator, or play some of my favorite "retro" games, They're just nowhere near as fun as I remember them being. I would feed quarters into SmashTV and the TMNT arcade games, but playing them at home just isn't the same. Maybe it's because I'm on a PC, maybe I need the full arcade machine experience, I don't know.
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    So, as much as I love the idea of retro-gaming, actually playing retro games is a bit of a let-down for me.

    In the 80s, arcade games were only one experience. With home game consoles like the NES, Atari, etc. becoming popular, video games at home became its own experience. I tended to play video games more often at home than in an arcade, so I've enjoyed using emulators. Particularly when using a PC game pad, it feels much the same to me as playing a console, without actually having the console.

    I've seen some emulators do some fairly cool stuff - Many emulators have the ability to save the state of the game, so you can save it and continue right where you left off later. And I saw at least one NES emulator that would allow multi-player ability over the internet - so you would basically connect to a friend's machine running the same emulator and play a 2-player game that way. I never actually tried that, but I thought that was a cool feature. I haven't seen that in a lot of emulators though.

    Nightfox

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  • From Roadhog@VERT/OUTWEST to DaiTengu on Friday, December 01, 2017 23:27:45
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: DaiTengu to Nightfox on Thu Nov 30 2017 04:28 pm

    Is anyone here into retro gaming? A few years ago, I bought one of
    these

    Every time I try to set up an emulator, or play some of my favorite "retro" games, They're just nowhere near as fun as I remember them being.

    I have a raspberry PI 2 B set up as a retro gaming machine that has atari, SNES, and a few other emulators and allot of retro games, I also bought 2 nintendo style controllers off of ebay, the Grand kids love it.

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  • From Jagossel@VERT/MTLGEEK to Roadhog on Saturday, December 02, 2017 08:09:15
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Roadhog to DaiTengu on Fri Dec 01 2017 23:27:45

    "... Why haven't we seen a Headline that says "psychic WINS Lottery?""

    TRUTH! :D

    Yes, I did read your message about your Raspberry Pi with all the emulstors and you buying the SNES-style controller that your grandkids love. Just thought your tagline was pretty clever!

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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to NIGHTFOX on Friday, January 19, 2018 12:00:00
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    Is anyone here into retro gaming? A few years ago, I bought one of
    these GCW Zero handheld game systems:
    http://www.gcw-zero.com

    Not really into it much, but I've played around with MAME on an
    old PC and have it on my laptop too. I thought about building
    an emulator for my sons for Christmas 2016 but didn't get around
    to it, then my oldest son got one from a friend, so I'm glad
    I didn't do it. :-)

    But anyway, cool stuff out there! I REALLY love finding old
    pinball machines to drop quarters into!!!




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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to DAITENGU on Friday, January 19, 2018 12:04:00
    DAITENGU wrote to NIGHTFOX <=-

    Every time I try to set up an emulator, or play some of my favorite "retro" games, They're just nowhere near as fun as I remember them
    being. I would feed quarters into SmashTV and the TMNT arcade games,
    but playing them at home just isn't the same. Maybe it's because I'm
    on a PC, maybe I need the full arcade machine experience, I don't know.

    Agreed. :-)

    I dunno, maybe it's me. As I get older I play fewer and fewer games. I have a Steam library that most people would be jealous of, and I've

    I've been spending time on Tabletop Simulator! No, it's not retro, but
    since you mentioned Steam... :-) Me and a buddy are actually creating
    mods for it.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to JIMMY ANDERSON on Friday, January 19, 2018 09:30:00
    Re: Re: Retro gaming
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to NIGHTFOX on Fri Jan 19 2018 12:00 pm

    But anyway, cool stuff out there! I REALLY love finding old
    pinball machines to drop quarters into!!!

    In Alameda, CA, there's a pinball museum with over 90 machines from the 1940s to present day - free play is $20 or so, so no quarters. It's a great time, though.

    https://www.pacificpinball.org/

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to JIMMY ANDERSON on Friday, January 19, 2018 09:33:11
    Re: Re: Retro gaming
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to DAITENGU on Fri Jan 19 2018 12:04 pm

    Every time I try to set up an emulator, or play some of my favorite
    "retro" games, They're just nowhere near as fun as I remember them
    being.

    My favorite game was defender - finding a cabinet or a way to emulate the controls would be tough.

    On a side note, I bought an arcade joystick controller for my prius' shift knob, makes me think of video games every time I shift. Looks something like this:

    https://priuschat.com/attachments/imageuploadedbytapatalk1397146512-995639-jpg. 63665/

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to JIMMY ANDERSON on Friday, January 19, 2018 09:31:47
    Re: Re: Retro gaming
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to NIGHTFOX on Fri Jan 19 2018 12:00 pm

    Not really into it much, but I've played around with MAME on an
    old PC and have it on my laptop too. I thought about building
    an emulator for my sons for Christmas 2016 but didn't get around
    to it, then my oldest son got one from a friend, so I'm glad
    I didn't do it. :-)

    I think one of the reasons people like emulators is for the nostalgia and being able to play our old favorite games again (and sometimes more easily). I wonder if kids these days really like those old games.

    Nightfox

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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to Nightfox on Friday, January 19, 2018 15:28:58
    I think one of the reasons people like emulators is for the nostalgia and being able to play our old favorite games again (and sometimes more
    easily). I wonder if kids these days really like those old games.

    Oddly my 21 years old son can't get enough of emulation, he's even play Atari 2600 ! a thing that I'll only manage to do for 5min :-)

    I guess in the end it's all about gameplay.

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Friday, January 19, 2018 18:18:00
    But anyway, cool stuff out there! I REALLY love finding old
    pinball machines to drop quarters into!!!

    In Alameda, CA, there's a pinball museum with over 90 machines from the 1940 PF>to present day - free play is $20 or so, so no quarters. It's a great time, PF>though.

    https://www.pacificpinball.org/

    Oh, wow. I played many a pinball machine years ago.

    My favorites included Paragon, Space Invaders, Silverball Mania, Fire
    Power, and The Black Knight, among others.

    Daryl

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  • From Vaclav@VERT/DIGDIST to Nightfox on Sunday, January 28, 2018 14:14:00
    Nightfox wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    I think one of the reasons people like emulators is for the nostalgia
    and being able to play our old favorite games again (and sometimes more easily). I wonder if kids these days really like those old games.

    My 4 year old daughter loves the Famicom Disk System versions of Pac-Man and Dig Dug! Of course, that will probably change when she's older...



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vaclav on Sunday, January 28, 2018 19:49:02
    Re: Re: Retro gaming
    By: Vaclav to Nightfox on Sun Jan 28 2018 02:14 pm

    I think one of the reasons people like emulators is for the
    nostalgia and being able to play our old favorite games again (and
    sometimes more easily). I wonder if kids these days really like
    those old games.

    My 4 year old daughter loves the Famicom Disk System versions of Pac-Man and Dig Dug! Of course, that will probably change when she's older...

    I might have to try to set up an emulator for those. I never played any Famicom Disk System games, though I heard those were popular in Japan.

    Nightfox

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  • From naga@VERT/ABINARY to Vaclav on Monday, January 29, 2018 08:10:00
    Nightfox wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    I think one of the reasons people like emulators is for the nostalgia and being able to play our old favorite games again (and sometimes mo easily). I wonder if kids these days really like those old games.

    My 10 year old nephew certainly does not like older games. He is a sucker for the fancy colours and graphics. I am probably an anomaly in that I prefer
    older games myself (me being in my 20s).

    My son is under a year old now, and I plan on starting him with a Gameboy, and maybe he won't even know new games exist until he's old enough to appreciate the differences. I think I will not be cruel, though. He can have a GBC, not just a Gameboy.
  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to VACLAV on Monday, January 29, 2018 09:13:00
    My 4 year old daughter loves the Famicom Disk System versions of Pac-Man and V>Dig Dug! Of course, that will probably change when she's older...

    Those were 2 of my favorite video games. :)

    I loved the characters of Pooka and Fygar in "Dig Dug", then the
    others with Pac-Man. I have a door on my BBS called Chomper...which is
    Pac-Man, but more challenging, as it has no power pellets.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to naga on Monday, January 29, 2018 09:33:30
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: naga to Vaclav on Mon Jan 29 2018 08:10 am

    I think one of the reasons people like emulators is for the
    nostalgia and being able to play our old favorite games again
    (and sometimes mo easily). I wonder if kids these days really
    like those old games.

    You quoted my text but you were replying to someone else..

    My 10 year old nephew certainly does not like older games. He is a sucker for the fancy colours and graphics. I am probably an anomaly in that I prefer older games myself (me being in my 20s).

    That reminds me of someone I know who said he doesn't understand why people play Minecraft (a relatively newer game) because Minecraft doesn't have good graphics (according to him). IMO, video games isn't all about the graphics.. I think the graphics should look good enough, but most importantly, a video game should be fun to play. And as for Minecraft, its graphics are part of its style.

    Nightfox

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  • From Marisag@VERT/AMIGAC to Nightfox on Monday, January 29, 2018 21:09:16
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Nightfox to naga on Mon Jan 29 2018 09:33:30

    importantly, a video game should be fun to play. And as for Minecraft, its graphics are part of its style.
    You might want to check out Minetest. It is a FOSS sandbox game like Minecraft. If you want a hosted version I offer that at https://MineCity.online for just $14/month, first month free, and $5 to your paypal for signing up ;)

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Marisag on Monday, January 29, 2018 15:53:53
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Marisag to Nightfox on Mon Jan 29 2018 09:09 pm

    You might want to check out Minetest. It is a FOSS sandbox game like Minecraft. If you want a hosted version I offer that at https://MineCity.online for just $14/month, first month free, and $5 to your paypal for signing up ;)

    Interesting.. Looks a lot like Minecraft. I have a Minecraft server that I've played with off and on for quite a while, and one thing that has frustrated me now is that some of the plugins I was using on it seem to be abandoned now and don't work with the latest versions of Minecraft. One of said plug-ins is a teleportation add-on that lets you set up gateways in various spots on your world (or multiple worlds, if you have more than one world) and teleport between those spots. I used that quite a bit, so it's a bummer that it seems to be no longer supported.

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  • From Vaclav@VERT/DIGDIST to Nightfox on Monday, January 29, 2018 18:44:00
    Nightfox wrote to Vaclav <=-

    My 4 year old daughter loves the Famicom Disk System versions of Pac-Man and Dig Dug! Of course, that will probably change when she's older...

    I might have to try to set up an emulator for those. I never played
    any Famicom Disk System games, though I heard those were popular in
    Japan.

    I have two, and they're prone to failure. These days I use a flash device called an FDStick with my Famicom, much more reliable than the old quickdisks. Metroid and the first two Castlevania games were originally released on the FDS.



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  • From Vaclav@VERT/DIGDIST to naga on Monday, January 29, 2018 18:54:00
    naga wrote to Vaclav <=-

    My 10 year old nephew certainly does not like older games. He is a
    sucker for the fancy colours and graphics. I am probably an anomaly in that I prefer older games myself (me being in my 20s).

    Some of my younger coworkers don't care for the older games, either. I was playing Atari 2600 games (Stella emulator) on my lunchbreak and got to listen to comments about my "cheap-ass welfare games".

    Until I introduced them to Wall Jump Ninja, a recent 2600 game. They shut up once they'd played it for a while and had fun :)



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  • From Vaclav@VERT/DIGDIST to Daryl Stout on Monday, January 29, 2018 18:56:00
    Daryl Stout wrote to VACLAV <=-

    My 4 year old daughter loves the Famicom Disk System versions of Pac-Man and
    Dig Dug! Of course, that will probably change when she's older...

    Those were 2 of my favorite video games. :)

    I loved the characters of Pooka and Fygar in "Dig Dug", then the
    others with Pac-Man. I have a door on my BBS called Chomper...which is Pac-Man, but more challenging, as it has no power pellets.

    My kid does too. Bought her Japanese plushies of Pooka, Fygar, and the blue ghosts for Christmas this year, absolutely loves them!



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vaclav on Monday, January 29, 2018 17:23:12
    Re: Re: Retro gaming
    By: Vaclav to naga on Mon Jan 29 2018 06:54 pm

    Some of my younger coworkers don't care for the older games, either. I was playing Atari 2600 games (Stella emulator) on my lunchbreak and got to listen to comments about my "cheap-ass welfare games".

    haha.. Some people just don't understand.

    Until I introduced them to Wall Jump Ninja, a recent 2600 game. They shut up once they'd played it for a while and had fun :)

    That's cool. :)
    A friend of mine once had an X-Box (original) that he modded and put a bunch of emulators on it. I thought it was funny to see games going back to Atari 2600 being played on an X-Box.

    Nightfox

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  • From Ljayo1@VERT/AMIGAC to Vaclav on Tuesday, January 30, 2018 11:04:53
    Re: Re: Retro gaming
    By: Vaclav to naga on Mon Jan 29 2018 18:54:00

    naga wrote to Vaclav <=-

    My 10 year old nephew certainly does not like older games. He is a sucker for the fancy colours and graphics. I am probably an anomaly in that I prefer older games myself (me being in my 20s).

    Some of my younger coworkers don't care for the older games, either. I was playing Atari 2600 games (Stella emulator) on my lunchbreak and got to liste to comments about my "cheap-ass welfare games".

    Until I introduced them to Wall Jump Ninja, a recent 2600 game. They shut u once they'd played it for a while and had fun :)



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    I love the older games. I can sit for hours playing on a SNES, NES or SEGA Megadrive. Place me infront of Minecraft or COD and I'll be board in 5-10 mins.

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to VACLAV on Tuesday, January 30, 2018 10:24:00
    My kid does too. Bought her Japanese plushies of Pooka, Fygar, and the blue V>ghosts for Christmas this year, absolutely loves them!

    I bookmarked a YouTube video with the DigDug....the background music
    and sound effects during the game was neat as well.

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  • From Vaclav@VERT/DIGDIST to Nightfox on Tuesday, January 30, 2018 18:01:00
    Nightfox wrote to Vaclav <=-

    Until I introduced them to Wall Jump Ninja, a recent 2600 game. They shut up once they'd played it for a while and had fun :)

    That's cool. :)
    A friend of mine once had an X-Box (original) that he modded and put a bunch of emulators on it. I thought it was funny to see games going
    back to Atari 2600 being played on an X-Box.

    We did the same thing on the Dreamcast, once we discovered the Utopia boot disk!



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  • From Vaclav@VERT/DIGDIST to Ljayo1 on Tuesday, January 30, 2018 18:10:00
    Ljayo1 wrote to Vaclav <=-
    I love the older games. I can sit for hours playing on a SNES, NES or
    SEGA Megadrive. Place me infront of Minecraft or COD and I'll be board
    in 5-10 mins.

    LOL, I still have my old 8- and 16-bitters, been into my PC Engine Duo lately. My wife told me I can't buy any new games until I finish all my old ones.

    I don't think I'll be seeing any new games in this lifetime...



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vaclav on Tuesday, January 30, 2018 16:41:54
    Re: Re: Retro gaming
    By: Vaclav to Ljayo1 on Tue Jan 30 2018 06:10 pm

    LOL, I still have my old 8- and 16-bitters, been into my PC Engine Duo lately. My wife told me I can't buy any new games until I finish all my old ones.

    I used to have a TurboGrafX-16 (which was known as PC Engine in other countries). I bought it new at a store for $30 when the store was trying to get rid of their TGX-16 inventory (it was December 1993, and the TurboGrafX-16 was regarded as a commercial failure in the US at that time). I thought the TurboGrafX-16 was fun, and was interesting that the game cartridges were small enough that the same cartridges were used for the TV console and their portable handheld version. I think that downside to that, though, was that the cartridges were so small that I doubt they had room for any extra processor chips, which were used on some games for other systems (for instance, Starfox for Super Nintendo used an additional processor chip in its game cartridge to help render the 3D polygons).

    Nightfox

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  • From Deusx@VERT/DECAFBAD to Nightfox on Wednesday, January 31, 2018 07:09:50
    Re: Re: Retro gaming
    By: Nightfox to Vaclav on Mon Jan 29 2018 05:23 pm

    A friend of mine once had an X-Box (original) that he modded and put a bunch of emulators on it. I thought it was funny to see games going back to Atari 2600 being played on an X-Box.

    Hell, I still have an original XBox in my basement that I occasionally boot up with emulators. Found this 4 or 5 DVD set on Usenet called Big Ass Emulator Disc and dumped it onto the hard drive. Works to this day! Not quite as nice as the RetroPie I threw together last summer, but occasionally a fun recursive sort of nostalgia indulgence

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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to Vaclav on Wednesday, January 31, 2018 07:05:03
    We did the same thing on the Dreamcast, once we discovered the Utopia boot disk!

    Felt weird emulating Sega genesis/mega drive and mame on the Dreamcast :-)

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  • From Ljayo1@VERT/AMIGAC to Vaclav on Wednesday, January 31, 2018 13:38:51
    Re: Re: Retro gaming
    By: Vaclav to Ljayo1 on Tue Jan 30 2018 18:10:00

    Ljayo1 wrote to Vaclav <=-
    I love the older games. I can sit for hours playing on a SNES, NES or SEGA Megadrive. Place me infront of Minecraft or COD and I'll be board in 5-10 mins.

    LOL, I still have my old 8- and 16-bitters, been into my PC Engine Duo latel My wife told me I can't buy any new games until I finish all my old ones.

    I don't think I'll be seeing any new games in this lifetime...



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  • From Vaclav@VERT/DIGDIST to Nightfox on Wednesday, January 31, 2018 18:20:00
    Nightfox wrote to Vaclav <=-

    I used to have a TurboGrafX-16 (which was known as PC Engine in other countries). I bought it new at a store for $30 when the store was
    trying to get rid of their TGX-16 inventory (it was December 1993, and
    the TurboGrafX-16 was regarded as a commercial failure in the US at
    that time). I thought the TurboGrafX-16 was fun, and was interesting
    that the game cartridges were small enough that the same cartridges
    were used for the TV console and their portable handheld version. I
    think that downside to that, though, was that the cartridges were so
    small that I doubt they had room for any extra processor chips, which
    were used on some games for other systems (for instance, Starfox for
    Super Nintendo used an additional processor chip in its game cartridge
    to help render the 3D polygons).

    The Japan only release of Street Fighter II' was a 24 megabit HuCard (unfortunately the only one). It was surprisingly good! Late in the PC Engine CD's lifspan, they released the Arcade Card which upped the system's memory to 2 megabit (IIRC) which allowed for decent (for the hardware) ports of Fatal Fury Special and Art of Fighting, as well as the system's magnum opus Ginga Fukei Densetsu Sapphire.

    Kinda wish NEC's SuperGrafx console would have caught on...



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  • From Vaclav@VERT/DIGDIST to Ennev on Wednesday, January 31, 2018 18:24:00
    Ennev wrote to Vaclav <=-

    We did the same thing on the Dreamcast, once we discovered the Utopia boot disk!

    Felt weird emulating Sega genesis/mega drive and mame on the Dreamcast
    :-)

    Not as weird as emulating an MSX! ;)


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  • From Vaclav@VERT/DIGDIST to Ljayo1 on Wednesday, January 31, 2018 18:25:00
    Ljayo1 wrote to Vaclav <=-

    I don't think I'll be seeing any new games in this lifetime...

    LOL! Emulators and ROMs for you!

    Heh, waaaay ahead of you!


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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to Vaclav on Thursday, February 01, 2018 12:41:53
    Not as weird as emulating an MSX! ;)

    Have to use the DreamCast keyboard ?

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Friday, February 09, 2018 10:36:53
    Re: Retro gaming
    By: Nightfox to Marisag on Mon Jan 29 2018 03:53 pm

    Interesting.. Looks a lot like Minecraft. I have a Minecraft server that I've played with off and on for quite a while, and one thing that has

    I need to resurrect my Minecraft account, which my son had taken over. He's pretty much over MC now, so I should clear out his worlds and get it ready for my daughter.

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