• Petty argument

    From Elaek@VERT/CPUGOD to All on Wednesday, November 22, 2017 20:11:20
    Your english sucks
    So does your posting

    Lets not start petty BS. I use BBS's to get away from all of that on twitter and whatnot.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Elaek on Wednesday, November 22, 2017 22:31:39
    Re: Petty argument
    By: Elaek to All on Wed Nov 22 2017 08:11 pm

    Your english sucks
    So does your posting

    Lets not start petty BS. I use BBS's to get away from all of that on twitter and whatnot.



    newsflash. we all have facebook and twitter accounts.
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  • From Ed Vance@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Thursday, November 23, 2017 23:04:00
    11-22-17 22:31 MRO wrote to Elaek about Petty argument
    Howdy! MRO,

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    Re: Petty argument
    By: Elaek to All on Wed Nov 22 2017 08:11 pm


    newsflash. we all have facebook and twitter accounts.

    I don't have an account with either of those two websites.

    I can truly say, it never happened Captain!.

    I have used a BBS since the Middle 1980's.
    I'm not bragging - You probably were running a BBS before I owned a PC.

    Several Years before I got My first PC (a Commodore 64) I used Radio
    Teletype (RTTY and ASCII) to a few Local Amateur Radio BBS's with a
    Video Terminal & Keyboard made by Netronics.

    Later I got on a BBS using Digicom 2.0 with My C=64 for Amateur Radio Packet.

    Having a BBS Account and a Email Account is all I need, so far........


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ed Vance on Friday, November 24, 2017 00:49:08
    Re: Re: Petty argument
    By: Ed Vance to MRO on Thu Nov 23 2017 11:04 pm

    newsflash. we all have facebook and twitter accounts.

    I don't have an account with either of those two websites.


    you are the only guy.
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  • From Tiny@VERT/PHARCYDE to Ed Vance on Friday, November 24, 2017 20:15:44
    Quoting Ed Vance to MRO <=-

    Having a BBS Account and a Email Account is all I need, so far........

    All B.S. Aside and this is not an insult. You are a hero to me man.
    I tried so many times to leave social media and I can't do it.

    Shawn

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tiny on Friday, November 24, 2017 19:51:03
    Re: Petty argument
    By: Tiny to Ed Vance on Fri Nov 24 2017 08:15 pm

    Quoting Ed Vance to MRO <=-

    Having a BBS Account and a Email Account is all I need, so far........

    All B.S. Aside and this is not an insult. You are a hero to me man.
    I tried so many times to leave social media and I can't do it.

    Shawn


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Tiny on Friday, November 24, 2017 19:46:17
    Re: Petty argument
    By: Tiny to Ed Vance on Fri Nov 24 2017 08:15 pm

    All B.S. Aside and this is not an insult. You are a hero to me man.
    I tried so many times to leave social media and I can't do it.

    Ditto. I keep thinking I need my FB account for the realitycheckBBS page, but it's pretty minimal impact on the BBS.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Saturday, November 25, 2017 00:21:16
    Re: Petty argument
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Tiny on Fri Nov 24 2017 07:46 pm

    Re: Petty argument
    By: Tiny to Ed Vance on Fri Nov 24 2017 08:15 pm

    All B.S. Aside and this is not an insult. You are a hero to me man.
    I tried so many times to leave social media and I can't do it.

    Ditto. I keep thinking I need my FB account for the realitycheckBBS page, but it's pretty minimal impact on the BBS.



    LETS GO LIVE IN THE WOODS AND EAT BARK LIKE THE FUCKING UNABOMBER
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to TINY on Saturday, November 25, 2017 10:11:00
    Having a BBS Account and a Email Account is all I need, so far........
    All B.S. Aside and this is not an insult. You are a hero to me man.
    I tried so many times to leave social media and I can't do it.

    Me also. Never had a twitter account, but I do use FB some. Mostly for messenger, but I do have some family that only communicates well with the
    rest of us via FB posts (pictures of the kids, etc.), so it is difficult to
    get rid of.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Saturday, November 25, 2017 13:07:23
    Re: Petty argument
    By: Dumas Walker to TINY on Sat Nov 25 2017 10:11 am

    Having a BBS Account and a Email Account is all I need, so far........
    All B.S. Aside and this is not an insult. You are a hero to me man.
    I tried so many times to leave social media and I can't do it.

    Me also. Never had a twitter account, but I do use FB some. Mostly for messenger, but I do have some family that only communicates well with the rest of us via FB posts (pictures of the kids, etc.), so it is difficult to get rid of.




    why would you want to get rid of it? all you do is use it how you want.
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  • From Roadhog@VERT/OUTWEST to MRO on Saturday, November 25, 2017 23:29:32
    Re: Petty argument
    By: MRO to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Nov 25 2017 12:21 am

    LETS GO LIVE IN THE WOODS AND EAT BARK LIKE THE FUCKING UNABOMBER

    is that how he became barking mad?

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Roadhog on Sunday, November 26, 2017 01:27:06
    Re: Petty argument
    By: Roadhog to MRO on Sat Nov 25 2017 11:29 pm

    Re: Petty argument
    By: MRO to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Nov 25 2017 12:21 am

    LETS GO LIVE IN THE WOODS AND EAT BARK LIKE THE FUCKING UNABOMBER

    is that how he became barking mad?

    No, they did this experiment on him with other people where people were negative to him about his views and other shit and it fucked him in the head
    by humiliation.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Sunday, November 26, 2017 07:13:00
    Me also. Never had a twitter account, but I do use FB some. Mostly for
    messenger, but I do have some family that only communicates well with the
    rest of us via FB posts (pictures of the kids, etc.), so it is difficult to >> get rid of.

    why would you want to get rid of it? all you do is use it how you want.

    If you don't use it often enough, by FB's standards, it will start sending
    you pester e-mails. Sort of like the notification emails that you can turn off, except you cannot (apparently) turn these off and they often notify
    you about people/things that you have otherwise specifically asked it not
    to notify you about... like maybe the activity of someone who is a "friend"
    but that you do not "follow."

    It is pretty annoying. I have found if I log on once a day and check my notifications, it usually won't do that. However, if I have all
    notifications turned off I should not have to do that.

    That is one reason I might want to get rid of it as it is one way I cannot
    use it how I want.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sunday, November 26, 2017 15:08:25
    Re: Petty argument
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sun Nov 26 2017 07:13 am

    Me also. Never had a twitter account, but I do use FB some. Mostly for >> messenger, but I do have some family that only communicates well with the >> rest of us via FB posts (pictures of the kids, etc.), so it is difficult to >> get rid of.

    why would you want to get rid of it? all you do is use it how you want.

    If you don't use it often enough, by FB's standards, it will start sending you pester e-mails. Sort of like the notification emails that you can turn off, except you cannot (apparently) turn these off and they often notify
    you about people/things that you have otherwise specifically asked it not
    to notify you about... like maybe the activity of someone who is a "friend" but that you do not "follow."

    maybe you dont have it turned off. i dont get any notifications.
    sometimes facebook makes changes and toggles shit back on so you might want to look.
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  • From Roadhog@VERT/OUTWEST to Dumas Walker on Sunday, November 26, 2017 23:53:20
    Re: Petty argument
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sun Nov 26 2017 07:13 am

    Me also. Never had a twitter account, but I do use FB some. Mostly
    for messenger, but I do have some family that only communicates well

    I signed up for twitter sent one message and have never been back on it.
    I tried to delete my facebook but could not so i erased everything and put it in the holding tank.
    I hate social media (except for BBSes).

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Roadhog on Monday, November 27, 2017 09:14:07
    Re: Petty argument
    By: Roadhog to Dumas Walker on Sun Nov 26 2017 11:53 pm

    I signed up for twitter sent one message and have never been back on it.

    I'm the same way, I created a Twitter account but I never use it. I don't really see much point in Twitter.

    I tried to delete my facebook but could not so i erased everything and put it in the holding tank.

    What is the "holding tank"? I thought Facebook had an option to delete your account..

    Nightfox

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Monday, November 27, 2017 17:48:00
    maybe you dont have it turned off. i dont get any notifications.
    sometimes facebook makes changes and toggles shit back on so you might want to >look.

    True that. I tell it to always show me the most recent stuff first but,
    within a week or so, it defaults back to "most popular." When you are
    driven by advertising...

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ROADHOG on Monday, November 27, 2017 17:49:00
    I hate social media (except for BBSes).

    I think part of what turned me towards social media was that I figured
    BBSing was not going to be around much longer and somehow was not as much
    fun. I am glad I got over that. :)

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Roadhog on Monday, November 27, 2017 19:44:30
    Re: Petty argument
    By: Roadhog to Dumas Walker on Sun Nov 26 2017 11:53 pm

    Re: Petty argument
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sun Nov 26 2017 07:13 am

    Me also. Never had a twitter account, but I do use FB some. Mostly
    for messenger, but I do have some family that only communicates well

    I signed up for twitter sent one message and have never been back on it.
    I tried to delete my facebook but could not so i erased everything and put it in the holding tank.
    I hate social media (except for BBSes).



    you can delete your facebook account or you can deactivate it.
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  • From Roadhog@VERT/OUTWEST to Nightfox on Monday, November 27, 2017 23:01:38
    Re: Petty argument
    By: Nightfox to Roadhog on Mon Nov 27 2017 09:14 am

    What is the "holding tank"? I thought Facebook had an option to delete your account..


    There is a complicated way to Delete it I just gave up trying,
    you can deactivate it but then if you ever relog in it will be activated again.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Roadhog on Tuesday, November 28, 2017 20:43:05
    Re: Petty argument
    By: Roadhog to Nightfox on Mon Nov 27 2017 11:01 pm

    Re: Petty argument
    By: Nightfox to Roadhog on Mon Nov 27 2017 09:14 am

    What is the "holding tank"? I thought Facebook had an option to delete your account..


    There is a complicated way to Delete it I just gave up trying,
    you can deactivate it but then if you ever relog in it will be activated again.


    they will hold it for like 14 days then delete the account. they also will suspend it and you can come back. you used to be able to get it deleted right on the spot but not anymore.
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  • From Hustler@VERT/DMINE to Roadhog on Saturday, December 09, 2017 10:16:27
    Re: Petty argument
    By: Roadhog to Dumas Walker on Sun Nov 26 2017 11:53 pm

    Me also. Never had a twitter account, but I do use FB some. Mostly

    I tried to delete my facebook but could not so i erased everything and put I hate social media (except for BBSes).

    I enjoy using Twitter but Facebook is a nightmare for me. Just tooooo much nonsense. And it gets worse each year. BBS's is where social media got it's start. IRC, BBS Telnet. Then came the WWW. It's been all downhill for BBS users ever since. Not me. I'm still here. As long as someone wants to keep a board going I'm all in!

    HusTler

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  • From Hustler@VERT/DMINE to Nightfox on Saturday, December 09, 2017 10:21:10
    Re: Petty argument
    By: Nightfox to Roadhog on Mon Nov 27 2017 09:14 am

    What is the "holding tank"? I thought Facebook had an option to delete your account..

    Nightfox

    Nah.. You can close your account on Facebook but not delete it. Just in case you change your mind. Unlike BBS's where your account is deleted and you have to fill out a new user application. When that happens to me I just delete the board from my phone book. I can feel out a new application anywhere.

    HusTler

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Hustler on Saturday, December 09, 2017 11:52:46
    Re: Petty argument
    By: Hustler to Nightfox on Sat Dec 09 2017 10:21 am

    Nah.. You can close your account on Facebook but not delete it. Just in case you change your mind. Unlike BBS's where your account is deleted and you have to fill out a new user application. When that happens to me I just


    you can suspend your account OR delete it. when you delete it it is gone in 15 days or something like that.

    https://www.facebook.com/help/delete_account?refid=69
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  • From Ray Quinn@VERT/US99 to MRO on Thursday, November 30, 2017 11:52:00
    MRO wrote to Elaek <=-




    newsflash. we all have facebook and twitter accounts.

    Not true. I have neither.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ray Quinn on Monday, December 11, 2017 19:08:20
    Re: Petty argument
    By: Ray Quinn to MRO on Thu Nov 30 2017 11:52 am

    MRO wrote to Elaek <=-




    newsflash. we all have facebook and twitter accounts.

    Not true. I have neither.


    yes you do
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  • From Roadhog@VERT/OUTWEST to Hustler on Monday, December 11, 2017 23:38:55
    Re: Petty argument
    By: Hustler to Nightfox on Sat Dec 09 2017 10:21 am

    What is the "holding tank"? I thought Facebook had an option to
    delete your account..

    Nightfox

    Nah.. You can close your account on Facebook but not delete it. Just in case you change your mind. Unlike BBS's where your account is deleted and you have to fill out a new user application. When that happens to me I

    You can Delete your facebook but it's complicated.

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  • From Ray Quinn@VERT/US99 to MRO on Wednesday, December 27, 2017 11:36:00
    MRO wrote to Ray Quinn <=-

    Re: Petty argument
    By: Ray Quinn to MRO on Thu Nov 30 2017 11:52 am

    MRO wrote to Elaek <=-




    newsflash. we all have facebook and twitter accounts.

    Not true. I have neither.


    yes you do

    How do you figure?

    I have not created Facebook nor Twitter account for myself or anyone else. I do not use Facebook, Twitter, Pinterest, or any other such social media with one exception: I do have a Google+ account that I never use. As far as "social media" is converned, I have been using BBSes since the late 1980s and have been listed in Fidonet since 1990. (1:205/222, then 1:214/222, followed by 1:214/22)

    Even this born and raised California boy knows not to eat yellow snow...


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ray Quinn on Thursday, December 28, 2017 23:22:06
    Re: Petty argument
    By: Ray Quinn to MRO on Wed Dec 27 2017 11:36 am

    yes you do

    How do you figure?

    I have not created Facebook nor Twitter account for myself or anyone else. I do not use Facebook, Twitter, Pinterest, or any other such social media with


    i saw you on fb
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  • From thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to Ray Quinn on Friday, December 29, 2017 11:29:00
    Ray Quinn wrote to MRO <=-

    newsflash. we all have facebook and twitter accounts.

    Not true. I have neither.


    yes you do

    How do you figure?

    I have not created Facebook nor Twitter account for myself or anyone
    else. I do not use Facebook, Twitter, Pinterest, or any other such
    social media with one exception: I do have a Google+ account that I
    never use. As far as "social media" is converned, I have been using
    BBSes since the late 1980s and have been listed in Fidonet since 1990. (1:205/222, then 1:214/222, followed by 1:214/22)

    Even this born and raised California boy knows not to eat yellow
    snow...


    Net 205!? I was in that net originally. 1:205/18. There was Stingray, Zorch and quite a
    few others that escape me.


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  • From Ray Quinn@VERT/US99 to thumper on Tuesday, January 09, 2018 14:29:00
    thumper wrote to Ray Quinn <=-

    Net 205!? I was in that net originally. 1:205/18. There was
    Stingray, Zorch and quite a
    few others that escape me.

    Yeah, Net 205 was quite large then. When I joined, there were just a small number of nodes here in Visalia. I am not sure at what point we were split off from Net 205 to form Net 214, where we originally kept our node number. Then they were truncated and had the "2" removed off the front. (1:214/222 became 1:214/22)

    I remember the names, especially Zorch Fresburg, obviously an alias. Now Net 214 has myself and one other node, ironically in Fresno - 1:214/559.

    We used to meet once a month at a local pizza place and had quite a turnout. First just the SYSOPs, then the users started showing up. This went on for years and was a lot of fun placing the face with the name.

    This is similar to amateur radio. I had talked to a ham (N6SMU) from Bakersfield, 75 miles south of Visalia, for years during his commute on a local repeater (began on the last day we had measurable snow here 6" 25 Jan 1999). Then one day, while visiting the International DX convention here, I recognized his voice and walked over and introduced myself. Definately not what I
    xpected.

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    I believe I was first nodelisted in 1991, One can check the history. I did, however, have a C=64 (Commodore) BBS at 300 baud in 1988 or 1989 and then was a cosysop with my younger brother on a C=128.

    My, how things have changed!


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  • From Ray Quinn@VERT/US99 to MRO on Tuesday, January 09, 2018 14:30:00
    MRO wrote to Ray Quinn <=-

    Re: Petty argument
    By: Ray Quinn to MRO on Wed Dec 27 2017 11:36 am

    yes you do

    How do you figure?

    I have not created Facebook nor Twitter account for myself or anyone else. I do not use Facebook, Twitter, Pinterest, or any other such social media with


    i saw you on fb

    My question remains unanswered...


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Ray Quinn on Tuesday, January 16, 2018 06:21:18
    Re: Net 205 - was:Petty argument
    By: Ray Quinn to thumper on Tue Jan 09 2018 02:29 pm

    We used to meet once a month at a local pizza place and had quite a turnout. First just the SYSOPs, then the users started showing up. This went on for years and was a lot of fun placing the face with the name.

    That was a big part of NIRVANAnet, the othernet that I was in back in the '90s. We were a cooler bunch than the Fidonet sysops of the time (handles preferred, no censorship, valuing the freedom of information) and we had some pretty intense individuals that flocked to it. We'd get together once a quarter in one of the sysops home towns - San Francisco, San Jose, Oakland, Walnut Creek. It kept things civil, but also made them more "real" when you'd seen the person on the other end of the modem.

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  • From thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to Ray Quinn on Tuesday, January 16, 2018 10:41:00
    Ray Quinn wrote to thumper <=-


    Net 205!? I was in that net originally. 1:205/18. There was
    Stingray, Zorch and quite a
    few others that escape me.

    Yeah, Net 205 was quite large then. When I joined, there were just a
    small number of nodes here in Visalia. I am not sure at what point we
    were split off from Net 205 to form Net 214, where we originally kept
    our node number. Then they were truncated and had the "2" removed off
    the front. (1:214/222 became 1:214/22)

    I remember the names, especially Zorch Fresburg, obviously an alias.
    Now Net 214 has myself and one other node, ironically in Fresno - 1:214/559.

    We used to meet once a month at a local pizza place and had quite a turnout. First just the SYSOPs, then the users started showing up. This went on for years and was a lot of fun placing the face with the name.

    This is similar to amateur radio. I had talked to a ham (N6SMU) from Bakersfield, 75 miles south of Visalia, for years during his commute on
    a local repeater (began on the last day we had measurable snow here 6"
    25 Jan 1999). Then one day, while visiting the International DX
    convention here, I recognized his voice and walked over and introduced myself. Definately not what I xpected.

    þ Synchronet þ -=The Wastelands BBS=- wastelands-bbs.net -=Since
    1990=-

    I believe I was first nodelisted in 1991, One can check the history. I did, however, have a C=64 (Commodore) BBS at 300 baud in 1988 or 1989
    and then was a cosysop with my younger brother on a C=128.

    My, how things have changed!


    Lots of fun back in those days. We had a big BBQ & meeting at Woodward one year. It
    was a blast. Zorch made some killer Chili and we had an auction for parts and software.
    I didn't join Fidonet for a couple of years after setting up, if I remember right. I was just
    trying to get my system together and smooth out the software for quite some time.



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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to poindexter FORTRAN on Wednesday, January 17, 2018 07:45:00
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Ray Quinn <=-

    That was a big part of NIRVANAnet, the othernet that I was in back in
    the '90s. We were a cooler bunch than the Fidonet sysops of the time (handles preferred, no censorship, valuing the freedom of information)
    and we had some pretty intense individuals that flocked to it. We'd get together once a quarter in one of the sysops home towns - San
    Francisco, San Jose, Oakland, Walnut Creek. It kept things civil, but
    also made them more "real" when you'd seen the person on the other end
    of the modem.

    Sysop meets were great back in the 90s. Some of the niche nets in Melbourne used to have meets too.


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  • From Ray Quinn@VERT/US99 to poindexter FORTRAN on Saturday, January 20, 2018 18:59:00
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Ray Quinn <=-

    and we had some pretty intense individuals that flocked to it. We'd get together once a quarter in one of the sysops home towns - San
    Francisco, San Jose, Oakland, Walnut Creek. It kept things civil, but

    Occasionally, we would have someone come from Fresno, but mostly from
    Visalia, Tulare, and other communities in Tulare County.

    also made them more "real" when you'd seen the person on the other end
    of the modem.

    I do miss those days. The closest thing we have here now is the local
    amateur radio clubs. We meet once a month for a "general" meeting and presentation. The board also meets once a month and is a dinner event at a local Denny's. Occasionally we have special events, including Field Day in June.


    ---

    If the right side of the brain controls the left side of the
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    ______
    , |[][]|
    ,__| ______| |
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    |__!___!!`--'L_______\ |__________|() ___________
    "(_)[___]====(_)(_)=| \_(___________)_/__/=(_)===(_)~'

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  • From Ray Quinn@VERT/US99 to thumper on Saturday, January 20, 2018 19:03:00
    thumper wrote to Ray Quinn <=-

    Lots of fun back in those days. We had a big BBQ & meeting at Woodward one year. It
    was a blast. Zorch made some killer Chili and we had an auction for
    parts and software.
    I didn't join Fidonet for a couple of years after setting up, if I remember right. I was just
    trying to get my system together and smooth out the software for quite some time.

    We never had BBQ's or much more than pizza, but we occasionally moved to another parlor. The local amateur radio club (WA6BAI) will have other
    events, as I mentioned to poindexter FORTRAN, including pot luck at our December meeting and an occastional one at a local park.

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    ---

    If the right side of the brain controls the left side of the
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    ______
    , |[][]|
    ,__| ______| |
    ,__/__]|| ________ | D8 |
    |__!___!!`--'L_______\ |__________|() ___________
    "(_)[___]====(_)(_)=| \_(___________)_/__/=(_)===(_)~'

    73 de Ray Quinn W6RAY
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  • From Thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to Ray Quinn on Monday, January 22, 2018 08:28:01
    thumper wrote to Ray Quinn <=-

    Lots of fun back in those days. We had a big BBQ & meeting at
    Woodward
    one year. It
    was a blast. Zorch made some killer Chili and we had an auction for parts and software.
    I didn't join Fidonet for a couple of years after setting up, if I remember right. I was just
    trying to get my system together and smooth out the software for
    quite
    some time.

    We never had BBQ's or much more than pizza, but we occasionally moved to another parlor. The local amateur radio club (WA6BAI) will have other events, as I mentioned to poindexter FORTRAN, including pot luck at our December meeting and an occastional one at a local park.

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    Where are you these days?

    I'm up in Copperopolis, CA. next to Tulloch Reservoir. Much slower way of
    life :)

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to RAY QUINN on Monday, January 22, 2018 17:41:00
    Ray,

    I do miss those days. The closest thing we have here now is the local RQ>amateur radio clubs. We meet once a month for a "general" meeting and RQ>presentation. The board also meets once a month and is a dinner event at a RQ>local Denny's. Occasionally we have special events, including Field Day in RQ>June.

    I got so sick of the politics with the local area clubs, that I'm not
    a paying member of ANY Arkansas Ham Radio Club. However, I'm involved
    with:

    1) American Radio Relay League (ARRL) -- Life Member, and a Volunteer
    Examiner through the ARRL/VEC.

    2) Courage Kenny Handi-Hams -- Life Member -- they help folks with
    disabilities get and upgrade their ham radio licenses, plus work with
    the hobby. I used to check into their midday nets, but with being
    caregiver for my elderly Mom during the day, that has gone by the
    boards, and I don't do much else with them.

    3) Portage County Amateur Radio Service (PCARS) -- Located in Ravenna,
    Ohio...I went up to the Cleveland area for the ARRL Great Lakes Division Convention in 2007, and got to meet several folks. I pay my yearly dues
    with them (their monthly club newsletter is one of the best you'll ever read...Tom "Parky" Parkinson, KB8UUZ, is the editor)...but I've had
    trouble checking into their nets on Echolink, due to various issues.

    4) Philadelphia Digital Radio Association (PDRA) -- Located in the
    DelMarVa region, I got a lot of info on D-Star and D-Rats from one of
    their members, Patrick Connor, N3TSZ...he also has a packet node in the
    area. I pay my yearly dues, and check into their D-Star and D-Rats Nets
    each Monday...except the 1st Monday, when the club has their meeting.

    5) Memphis Digital Amateur Radio Club (MDARC) -- Located in the Memphis
    area, they quip "it's the darc side of D-Star" (hi hi). I help with
    their Friday night D-Star and D-Rats Net (they are originally who I got
    my D-Star authorization through...now you get that taken care of at www.dstarinfo.com)...and, sometimes, help with the C.E.R.T. D-Star Net
    on Thursday nights.

    There are 2 ham radio things I'm still part of in central Arkansas:

    A) VE Testing. I'm the VE Team Liaison for the University Of Arkansas
    At Little Rock Ham Radio Club (membership is for students, but I am an alumnus). I help another area group with their testing...and their VE's
    come help with mine. With the License Class Question Pools changing
    (Technician this July, General in July, 2019, and Amateur Extra in
    2020), we're rather busy right now.

    B) Webmaster for the Cabot Nightflyers Net. They used to hold a weekly
    net every Sunday, but the Net Control Station got so busy with work,
    etc., and we lost the resources to do a weekly net. Now, on occasion,
    they'll do a "Hammin' In The Park" Mini Field Day, or a "Special Format
    Net" just before Halloween, with an appropriate theme presentation.

    Daryl, WX1DER

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to RAY QUINN on Monday, January 22, 2018 17:41:00
    Ray,

    We never had BBQ's or much more than pizza, but we occasionally moved to RQ>another parlor. The local amateur radio club (WA6BAI) will have other RQ>events, as I mentioned to poindexter FORTRAN, including pot luck at our RQ>December meeting and an occastional one at a local park.

    Remember...if you eat ham, you're cannibalistic. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Daryl Stout on Tuesday, January 23, 2018 23:03:00
    Daryl Stout wrote to RAY QUINN <=-

    Remember...if you eat ham, you're cannibalistic. <G>

    That's not the only interpretation, but as they say in the classics... "I'm not touching that one!" :D


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Ray Quinn on Tuesday, January 23, 2018 07:24:46
    Re: Net 205
    By: Ray Quinn to thumper on Sat Jan 20 2018 07:03 pm

    We never had BBQ's or much more than pizza

    We had a gettogether at Kublai Khan's All-You-Can-Eat Mongolian BBQ in San Francisco back in 1992 or so. Came for the name, stayed for the BBQ noodles and meat and street theater. Lots of interesting goings-on to watch while you ate - from drug deals, to drunken frat boys, to guardian angels patrolling the streets (and getting chased on foot by a much larger gang)

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to VK3JED on Tuesday, January 23, 2018 10:08:00
    Tony,

    Remember...if you eat ham, you're cannibalistic. <G>

    That's not the only interpretation, but as they say in the classics... "I'm V>not touching that one!" :D

    Remember...dirty old hams need love, too. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Daryl Stout on Wednesday, January 24, 2018 17:01:00
    Daryl Stout wrote to VK3JED <=-

    Remember...dirty old hams need love, too. <G>

    LOL true. :D


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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to VK3JED on Wednesday, January 24, 2018 16:15:00
    Tony,

    Remember...dirty old hams need love, too. <G>

    LOL true. :D

    ... Almost everything in life is easier to get into than out of.

    Fitness: Working my butt off to fitness pair of pants.

    Or, your pants won't be tight after a big meal if you don't wear any.
    :P Ironically, there is a naturists (nudists) ham radio club in Austin,
    Texas, with the callsign of NU5DE. Their QSL card is "tastefully
    done"...but, I don't know if we want to discuss things like buttons,
    knobs, plus horizontal and vertical polarization...never mind amateur
    TV. <BG>

    Daryl

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Daryl Stout on Friday, January 26, 2018 07:27:00
    Daryl Stout wrote to VK3JED <=-

    ... Almost everything in life is easier to get into than out of.

    Fitness: Working my butt off to fitness pair of pants.

    Haha, no problems here in that department.

    Or, your pants won't be tight after a big meal if you don't wear any.
    :P Ironically, there is a naturists (nudists) ham radio club in Austin,
    Texas, with the callsign of NU5DE. Their QSL card is "tastefully done"...but, I don't know if we want to discuss things like buttons, knobs, plus horizontal and vertical polarization...never mind amateur
    TV. <BG>

    I suggest you have a _very_ close look at their QSL card on the website - you might notice something. :P


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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to VK3JED on Friday, January 26, 2018 22:12:00
    Tony,

    I suggest you have a _very_ close look at their QSL card on the website - you V>might notice something. :P

    Now, you've got me curious. :P

    Daryl

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Daryl Stout on Sunday, January 28, 2018 06:08:00
    Daryl Stout wrote to VK3JED <=-

    I suggest you have a _very_ close look at their QSL card on the website -
    ou
    might notice something. :P

    Now, you've got me curious. :P

    Well, go to their website and look at the QSL card and the description of the card. All will be, err, revealed. :D


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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to VK3JED on Saturday, January 27, 2018 19:48:00
    Tony,

    I suggest you have a _very_ close look at their QSL card on the website -
    ou
    might notice something. :P

    Now, you've got me curious. :P

    Well, go to their website and look at the QSL card and the description of the V>card. All will be, err, revealed. :D

    OK, I just looked on QRZ -- not the website itself.

    I'd probably make a lousy nudist...I don't do well with stinging
    insects outside, and I am so fair complected that I can sunburn within
    10 minutes. I've also had heat exhaustion several times, which came
    perilously close to heat stroke. Every summer, the Emergency Rooms
    around here get more than their share of heat illness victims.

    No matter what the weather or situation...you can rant on safety rules
    until you are blue in the face...but some have what I call "apathetic invincibility". They feel that "it won't happen to me", and "it's not
    going to do much". Guess whose place gets hit dead center??

    Daryl

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Daryl Stout on Sunday, January 28, 2018 17:02:37
    Re: Re: Revealing Things
    By: Daryl Stout to VK3JED on Sat Jan 27 2018 07:48 pm

    I'd probably make a lousy nudist...I don't do well with stinging
    insects outside, and I am so fair complected that I can sunburn within
    10 minutes. I've also had heat exhaustion several times, which came perilously close to heat stroke. Every summer, the Emergency Rooms
    around here get more than their share of heat illness victims.


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  • From Ray Quinn@VERT/US99 to Thumper on Saturday, January 27, 2018 14:28:00
    Thumper wrote to Ray Quinn <=-

    Where are you these days?

    I'm up in Copperopolis, CA. next to Tulloch Reservoir. Much slower way
    of life :)

    Well, I am still in Visalia, which has grown exponentially. Traffic is becoming a nightmare. New lanes being built on CA 99 (formerly
    known as US 99) getting it ready to change it to Interstate 7 or 9. It no longer has traffic lights or at-grade crossings.

    Visalia is near Sequoia and Kings Canyon National Parks (SEKI). CA 198 is
    an east-weat highway starting at US 101 and is freeway from NAS Lemoore to
    CA 245 northeast of Exeter enroute to Sequoia, passing Lake Kaweah with its terminus at the Sequoia Park entrance east of Three Rivers.

    Visalia has well over 125,000 people and is likely over 150,000. In other words, no longer slow way of life compared to then. :-(

    I looked up Copperopolis on Google maps to see where that is. I have been
    on fires near there. The Rim fire, (one of the fire camps was in
    Tulomne City), and the Butte fire (fire camps were in
    Plymouth and Angels Camp). I was on another one later and camp was also at
    the fairgrounds in Angels Camp. ribbitt

    Visalia, New California



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    ,__| ______| |
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    |__!___!!`--'L_______\ |__________|() ___________
    "(_)[___]====(_)(_)=| \_(___________)_/__/=(_)===(_)~'

    73 de Ray Quinn W6RAY
    Visalia, CA USA DM06ii


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  • From Ray Quinn@VERT/US99 to Daryl Stout on Saturday, January 27, 2018 14:51:00
    Daryl Stout wrote to RAY QUINN <=-

    Ray,

    I got so sick of the politics with the local area clubs, that I'm not
    a paying member of ANY Arkansas Ham Radio Club. However, I'm involved with:

    True. There was a disagreement in the past and part of the local club
    started one of their own in another part of the county. Now days, the two clubs share resources and do things together. I like it that way.

    1) American Radio Relay League (ARRL) -- Life Member, and a Volunteer Examiner through the ARRL/VEC.

    Sad to say, I have let my membership lapse. However, I am a VE as well. The local club has testing sessions before every monthly meeting with the exception of December as the pot luck dinner is held at that time. We also offer classes once or twice a year if there is enough interest.

    2) Courage Kenny Handi-Hams -- Life Member -- they help folks with disabilities get and upgrade their ham radio licenses, plus work with
    the hobby. I used to check into their midday nets, but with being caregiver for my elderly Mom during the day, that has gone by the
    boards, and I don't do much else with them.

    Good. We have some blind members. They aren't able to attend much any more
    as they are becomming less mobile. I used to check into the daily nets as well, but I no longer have a radio in my work truck (A 2015 Kenworth). I
    have yet to put one in my "new" pickup. I don't want to drill holes and I haven't figured out how else to do it...

    Taking care of your mother is important. Kind of like returning the favor.

    4) Philadelphia Digital Radio Association (PDRA) -- Located in the DelMarVa region, I got a lot of info on D-Star and D-Rats from one of their members, Patrick Connor, N3TSZ...he also has a packet node in the area. I pay my yearly dues, and check into their D-Star and D-Rats Nets each Monday...except the 1st Monday, when the club has their meeting.

    I monitor the K6VIS D-STAR repeaters often. I guess I should; I am one of
    its administrators and was responsible for getting them set up before they went up to the site some years ago.

    5) Memphis Digital Amateur Radio Club (MDARC) -- Located in the Memphis area, they quip "it's the darc side of D-Star" (hi hi). I help with
    their Friday night D-Star and D-Rats Net (they are originally who I got
    my D-Star authorization through...now you get that taken care of at www.dstarinfo.com)...and, sometimes, help with the C.E.R.T. D-Star Net
    on Thursday nights.

    I check into, maybe, two nets a week. The Monday Tulare County ARES net
    and the Tuesday Club net, both at 19:30 local time. I used to check into a "local" HF net on 80m and a "Noontime" net along the west coast. But we
    moved last year and haven't really put any antennas up. Getting help is not always successful as people have their own things to do, as do I.

    There are 2 ham radio things I'm still part of in central Arkansas:

    A) VE Testing. I'm the VE Team Liaison for the University Of Arkansas
    At Little Rock Ham Radio Club (membership is for students, but I am an

    B) Webmaster for the Cabot Nightflyers Net. They used to hold a weekly
    net every Sunday, but the Net Control Station got so busy with work,
    etc., and we lost the resources to do a weekly net. Now, on occasion, they'll do a "Hammin' In The Park" Mini Field Day, or a "Special Format Net" just before Halloween, with an appropriate theme presentation.

    I used to do a lot more, too. Now I still maintain the D-STAR computers and the mailing list on Yahoo! groups. Also, their domain services...

    Visalia, New California ???

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    body, then only left-handed people are in their right minds.

    ______
    , |[][]|
    ,__| ______| |
    ,__/__]|| ________ | D8 |
    |__!___!!`--'L_______\ |__________|() ___________
    "(_)[___]====(_)(_)=| \_(___________)_/__/=(_)===(_)~'

    73 de Ray Quinn W6RAY
    Visalia, CA USA DM06ii


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  • From Ray Quinn@VERT/US99 to Daryl Stout on Saturday, January 27, 2018 14:52:00
    Daryl Stout wrote to RAY QUINN <=-

    Ray,

    We never had BBQ's or much more than pizza, but we occasionally moved to
    another parlor. The local amateur radio club (WA6BAI) will have other
    events, as I mentioned to poindexter FORTRAN, including pot luck at our
    December meeting and an occastional one at a local park.

    Remember...if you eat ham, you're cannibalistic. <G>

    HAM....Yummmmmmmm. Some women say that men are pigs...



    ---

    If the right side of the brain controls the left side of the
    body, then only left-handed people are in their right minds.

    ______
    , |[][]|
    ,__| ______| |
    ,__/__]|| ________ | D8 |
    |__!___!!`--'L_______\ |__________|() ___________
    "(_)[___]====(_)(_)=| \_(___________)_/__/=(_)===(_)~'

    73 de Ray Quinn W6RAY
    Visalia, CA USA DM06ii


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  • From Ray Quinn@VERT/US99 to poindexter FORTRAN on Saturday, January 27, 2018 14:58:00
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Ray Quinn <=-

    We had a gettogether at Kublai Khan's All-You-Can-Eat Mongolian BBQ in
    San Francisco back in 1992 or so. Came for the name, stayed for the BBQ noodles and meat and street theater. Lots of interesting goings-on to watch while you ate - from drug deals, to drunken frat boys, to
    guardian angels patrolling the streets (and getting chased on foot by a much larger gang)

    I have made deliveries in downtown San Francisco, but the last time I was
    near San Francisco for pleasure was at Candlestick Park for a Giant-Dodger game - August 17, 1985. I believe the final was Dodgers 6, Giants 3. (That score could be from another game at Dodger Stadium)

    Sorry, no desire to visit there. Almost as bad as NYC. ;-)



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    body, then only left-handed people are in their right minds.

    ______
    , |[][]|
    ,__| ______| |
    ,__/__]|| ________ | D8 |
    |__!___!!`--'L_______\ |__________|() ___________
    "(_)[___]====(_)(_)=| \_(___________)_/__/=(_)===(_)~'

    73 de Ray Quinn W6RAY
    Visalia, CA USA DM06ii


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Daryl Stout on Monday, January 29, 2018 20:53:00
    Daryl Stout wrote to VK3JED <=-

    Well, go to their website and look at the QSL card and the description of
    he
    card. All will be, err, revealed. :D

    OK, I just looked on QRZ -- not the website itself.

    www.nu5de.com . ;)

    I'd probably make a lousy nudist...I don't do well with stinging
    insects outside, and I am so fair complected that I can sunburn within
    10 minutes. I've also had heat exhaustion several times, which came perilously close to heat stroke. Every summer, the Emergency Rooms
    around here get more than their share of heat illness victims.

    I'm pretty heat tolerant, proved that on the weekend at the track ,eet, not only surviving, but bringing home several medals. :)

    No matter what the weather or situation...you can rant on safety
    rules until you are blue in the face...but some have what I call "apathetic invincibility". They feel that "it won't happen to me", and "it's not going to do much". Guess whose place gets hit dead center??

    Yep, always the way.


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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to RAY QUINN on Monday, January 29, 2018 09:10:00
    Ray,

    True. There was a disagreement in the past and part of the local club RQ>started one of their own in another part of the county. Now days, the two RQ>clubs share resources and do things together. I like it that way.

    They need to...because in the event of a disaster, everyone needs to
    work together.

    Sad to say, I have let my membership lapse. However, I am a VE as well. The RQ>local club has testing sessions before every monthly meeting with the RQ>exception of December as the pot luck dinner is held at that time. We also RQ>offer classes once or twice a year if there is enough interest.

    Several years ago, I had to let mine lapse, as I couldn't afford to
    renew. But, in doing so, I lost my appointment as an Official Bulletin
    Station. To add to that, that "appointment" has long since been
    eliminated.

    Good. We have some blind members. They aren't able to attend much any more RQ>as they are becomming less mobile. I used to check into the daily nets as RQ>well, but I no longer have a radio in my work truck (A 2015 Kenworth). I RQ>have yet to put one in my "new" pickup. I don't want to drill holes and I RQ>haven't figured out how else to do it...

    What gets me about these blind hams, is that if you can't figure out
    how to program a certain brand of HT, in most cases, they'll ask you
    what brand it is. When you tell them, more often than not, it's "Shoot!!
    Let me see that!!", and they start working with it. A few minutes later,
    it's done and it works!! It's like WTH??!! :P

    Taking care of your mother is important. Kind of like returning the favor.

    The roles are reversed now. It's like Jeff (You Might Be A Redneck)
    Foxworthy said in a skit..."You've got the young ones coming out of
    diapers, and the parents going into diapers". He added it's like "Ed!!
    Did you...??"...and Ed is shaking his head from left to right!! <G>

    I monitor the K6VIS D-STAR repeaters often. I guess I should; I am one of RQ>its administrators and was responsible for getting them set up before they RQ>went up to the site some years ago.

    Patrick Connor, N3TSZ, is a real guru with D-Star and D-Rats. He also
    has a nice packet setup.

    I check into, maybe, two nets a week. The Monday Tulare County ARES net RQ>and the Tuesday Club net, both at 19:30 local time. I used to check into a RQ>"local" HF net on 80m and a "Noontime" net along the west coast. But we RQ>moved last year and haven't really put any antennas up. Getting help is not RQ>always successful as people have their own things to do, as do I.

    HF propagation lately has been, for the most part...horrible. Rarely
    have the bands been open.

    I used to do a lot more, too. Now I still maintain the D-STAR computers and RQ>the mailing list on Yahoo! groups. Also, their domain services...

    Good for you. I'm not a big fan of the Yahoo Groups...I get the
    "digest", and sometimes, it takes 3 days after it was posted in a group,
    to get to my email.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to RAY QUINN on Monday, January 29, 2018 09:11:00
    Ray,

    We never had BBQ's or much more than pizza, but we occasionally moved to RQ>another parlor. The local amateur radio club (WA6BAI) will have other RQ>events, as I mentioned to poindexter FORTRAN, including pot luck at our RQ>December meeting and an occastional one at a local park.

    Remember...if you eat ham, you're cannibalistic. <G>

    HAM....Yummmmmmmm. Some women say that men are pigs...

    One group in Champaign, Illinois has a daily lunch net. They get on
    the repeater (likely D-Star), and ask "where do we want to eat lunch
    today??". <G>

    Daryl

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Ray Quinn on Monday, January 29, 2018 13:50:00
    Re: Net 205
    By: Ray Quinn to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Jan 27 2018 02:58 pm

    Sorry, no desire to visit there. Almost as bad as NYC. ;-)

    realitycheckBBS got its start in San Francisco - I went to SFSU, started calling BBSes in 1988 or so, co-sysoped Just Say Yes in 1990, and started realitycheckBBS in 1991 out of a studio apartment in Pacific Heights.

    This was more of a one-room apartment with a separate kitchen and breakfast nook separated from the main room by a door - no cooking smells or dishes in the main room. Walk-in closet that doubled as the home of the BBS, and a nice entrance hallway so you didn't walk right into the main room.

    The cost? $575/month.

    I spent 10 years living in San Francisco and another 15 working in the city. Money has changed it -- rents have skyrocketed, families have moved out, tradespeople can't afford to live there any more, and that changes the
    culture and the feel. You need to look hard to find neighborhoods that aren't full of chain stores - you could be anywhere in the bay area based on the surroundings.

    I'm happy I had the time in my youth there - it was inexpensive enough if you played your cards right to afford living and entertainment on a entry-level salary. That city is gone, though.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Monday, January 29, 2018 22:52:00
    Re: Net 205
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Ray Quinn on Mon Jan 29 2018 01:50 pm


    This was more of a one-room apartment with a separate kitchen and breakfast nook separated from the main room by a door - no cooking smells or dishes in the main room. Walk-in closet that doubled as the home of the BBS, and a nice entrance hallway so you didn't walk right into the main room.

    The cost? $575/month.


    that's too much even for THAT
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Tuesday, January 30, 2018 09:40:07
    Re: Net 205
    By: MRO to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Jan 29 2018 10:52 pm

    This was more of a one-room apartment with a separate kitchen and
    breakfast nook separated from the main room by a door - no cooking

    The cost? $575/month.

    that's too much even for THAT

    It depends on where you live. The San Francisco area has very high rent prices, and I'm sure such an apartment there would go for much more than that these days. Several years ago I had a one-bedroom apartment and was paying around $900/month where I live (it started out at around $700/month and the rent went up every year).

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Tuesday, January 30, 2018 20:04:23
    Re: Net 205
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Tue Jan 30 2018 09:40 am

    that's too much even for THAT

    It depends on where you live. The San Francisco area has very high rent prices, and I'm sure such an apartment there would go for much more than

    yeah , he was showing how cheap it was back then.
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  • From Ray Quinn@VERT/US99 to Daryl Stout on Saturday, February 03, 2018 19:55:00
    Daryl Stout wrote to RAY QUINN <=-

    What gets me about these blind hams, is that if you can't figure out
    how to program a certain brand of HT, in most cases, they'll ask you
    what brand it is. When you tell them, more often than not, it's
    "Shoot!! Let me see that!!", and they start working with it. A few
    minutes later, it's done and it works!! It's like WTH??!! :P

    Sounds familiar.

    The roles are reversed now. It's like Jeff (You Might Be A Redneck) Foxworthy said in a skit..."You've got the young ones coming out of diapers, and the parents going into diapers". He added it's like "Ed!!
    Did you...??"...and Ed is shaking his head from left to right!! <G>

    I lost both my grandmothers in 2016 (one (paternal) was 95 and the other (maternal) was 94+1 day) My paternal grandmother was in a home and the
    other was at home with 24 hour care by her children (at least those that live in the area. Two do not). One came from for a visit and stayed with her so
    her siblings could take a break, and ended up staying for the funeral.

    I hope my parents live to at least that age. (76 and soon to be 74) I don't feel so young any more, with 3 grandchildren (2 adopted), neices and
    nephews and now grand-nephews and a grand-neice.

    HF propagation lately has been, for the most part...horrible. Rarely have the bands been open.

    I noticed. It's hardly worth turning on the HF rig these days.

    I used to do a lot more, too. Now I still maintain the D-STAR computers and
    the mailing list on Yahoo! groups. Also, their domain services...

    Good for you. I'm not a big fan of the Yahoo Groups...I get the "digest", and sometimes, it takes 3 days after it was posted in a
    group, to get to my email.

    We used to host our own list, but the issues with bounced emails due to systems security made it more than it was worth. Personally, I am on about 15 Yahoo! groups, two of which I moderate.

    Planning to visit northcentral (Salem, Ash Flat) Arkansas maybe October, around my son's birthday. I have grandchildren I haven't met.


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  • From Ray Quinn@VERT/US99 to Daryl Stout on Saturday, February 03, 2018 19:57:00
    Daryl Stout wrote to RAY QUINN <=-

    Ray,

    We never had BBQ's or much more than pizza, but we occasionally moved
    to
    another parlor. The local amateur radio club (WA6BAI) will have other RQ>events, as I mentioned to poindexter FORTRAN, including pot luck at our RQ>December meeting and an occastional one at a local park.

    Remember...if you eat ham, you're cannibalistic. <G>

    HAM....Yummmmmmmm. Some women say that men are pigs...

    One group in Champaign, Illinois has a daily lunch net. They get on
    the repeater (likely D-Star), and ask "where do we want to eat lunch today??". <G>

    They must be off work during the week or retired.



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    |__!___!!`--'L_______\ |__________|() ___________
    "(_)[___]====(_)(_)=| \_(___________)_/__/=(_)===(_)~'

    73 de Ray Quinn W6RAY
    Visalia, CA USA DM06ii



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  • From Ray Quinn@VERT/US99 to poindexter FORTRAN on Saturday, February 03, 2018 20:24:00
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Ray Quinn <=-

    Re: Net 205
    By: Ray Quinn to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Jan 27 2018 02:58 pm

    Sorry, no desire to visit there. Almost as bad as NYC. ;-)

    realitycheckBBS got its start in San Francisco - I went to SFSU,
    started calling BBSes in 1988 or so, co-sysoped Just Say Yes in 1990,
    and started realitycheckBBS in 1991 out of a studio apartment in
    Pacific Heights.

    US 99 BBS actually started on a Commodore 64 in about 1989 with a 300 baud modem. (No mistake three hundred baud). I actually had a few callers (more than today, even) at that speed. I can't remember the name, but I could look at the old Fidonet nodelists online and see what I named them after that. Once, it was named Visalia Vois (the phone number spelled VOIS - 559-636-8647) and ran on a PC. For a while, I ran a two-line BBS running Wildcat 4.20 for DOS (I was a tester) under OS/2 and had other nodes available via Ray Gwinn's VMODEM.

    It became "The Interstate" and now US 99, for the highway that runs through Visalia (now CA 99).

    Now, It runs on a Debian 9.x server that also hosts some VMs, which then host a ham radio packet BBS - SJVBBS running JNOS.

    This was more of a one-room apartment with a separate kitchen and breakfast nook separated from the main room by a door - no cooking
    smells or dishes in the main room. Walk-in closet that doubled as the
    home of the BBS, and a nice entrance hallway so you didn't walk right
    into the main room.

    Sounds familiar, only I shared a studio apartment with my EX-wife.

    The cost? $575/month.

    Wow! that is still more than my mortgage for a two-bedroom one bath, with converted 2-car garage.

    I spent 10 years living in San Francisco and another 15 working in the city. Money has changed it -- rents have skyrocketed, families have
    moved out, tradespeople can't afford to live there any more, and that changes the culture and the feel. You need to look hard to find neighborhoods that aren't full of chain stores - you could be anywhere
    in the bay area based on the surroundings.

    I have heard that, too. My travels were mostly in trucks - commercial trucks, eighteen wheelers with 53 foot dry vans. NOT FUN. Don't take it personal - I don't like any big city. I am getting to where I despise driving in Visalia. People are inconsiderate everywhere (I travel).

    I'm happy I had the time in my youth there - it was inexpensive enough
    if you played your cards right to afford living and entertainment on a entry-level salary. That city is gone, though.

    Our youth is gone. So is some of our freedoms.

    Speaking of money: I am in the process of renewing my commercial driver license. I have, or will spend the following amount:

    $ 59.95 -copy of my birth certificate - CA now requires me to prove I belong
    here to renew my commercial license. I gave them a copy of it when I
    got my original license - age 16 - in 1979. Also for Homeland Security
    and/or DOJ
    $ 86.50 -to be fingerprinted AGAIN for Homeland Security and/or DOJ.
    $ 58.00 -eye exam
    $318.00 -glasses (still need to purchase a spare pair)
    $ 65.00 -Department of Transportation medical exam - my own doctor can no
    longer do these exams unless they take a special class
    $ 45.00 -license renewal fee - may be more for a soon to be required REAL ID. -------
    $632.45

    I also have to provide proof of redidency using a utility bill or similiar in my name with my address on it, proof of my Social Security number. - I may have to haul the paperwork to the DMV in a semi truck. ;-)

    Yet "undocumented" persons can walk into the DMV and apply for a driver license without anything. This state is backwards...

    Sorry for the rant.


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    "(_)[___]====(_)(_)=| \_(___________)_/__/=(_)===(_)~'

    73 de Ray Quinn W6RAY
    Visalia, CA USA DM06ii



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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to RAY QUINN on Sunday, February 04, 2018 12:25:00
    Ray,

    Sounds familiar.

    I had to "get their help" to "get out of a hamfest parking lot several
    years ago". <G>

    Basically, I was severely nearsighted, and in the early stages of
    cataracts. I was chairman of the Talk-In and Packet station at the
    hamfest, but I got 3 blind hams (one of whom became a Silent Key just
    after Christmas) to help on Talk-In. While I had to escort them to the restroom, and get their food, their being at the rig allowed me to look
    around.

    But, the joke was "Talk-In is being run by 4 hams who can't see a darn thing...and they're giving directions to and from the hamfest!!" <G>.

    The kicker, though...it was a Friday night and Saturday day event.
    They had sealed off the exits on the west side of the complex...the
    overhead lighting was off...and the parking lot had just been re-paved,
    but not yet striped. I groaned "I'm lost!! I can't find my way out of
    this parking lot!!".

    Seizing the opportunity, and the mic, one blind ham keyed up the wide
    area coverage repeater, and announced "This is a Talk-Out Net, for the
    Talk-In Station, who can't find his way out of the parking lot!!" :P

    I then asked about using his seeing eye dog, and he said, laughing sarcastically "Well, he's tied to the front bumper right now!!".

    To this day, people ask me if I need help getting out of parking
    lots...I'll never live it down!! <BG>. At the local hamfest over 2 years
    ago, I saw the blind hams at a table (I had done the license exams that
    morning there), and I asked "Excuse me, sir?? Can you help me get out of
    this hamfest parking lot??"...and the one blind ham yelled "DARYL!! YOU RASCAL!!"...everyone within earshot busted out laughing!! <G>.

    I lost both my grandmothers in 2016 (one (paternal) was 95 and the other RQ>(maternal) was 94+1 day) My paternal grandmother was in a home and the RQ>other was at home with 24 hour care by her children (at least those that liv RQ>in the area. Two do not). One came from for a visit and stayed with her so RQ>her siblings could take a break, and ended up staying for the funeral.

    Yesterday (Feb. 3) was the 11th anniversary of my Dad's passing. Not 3
    months after he died, I lost my wife, 3 weeks shy of our 4th wedding anniversary, and I never re-married.

    I noticed. It's hardly worth turning on the HF rig these days.

    You'll soon get to add all the static crashes from springtime
    thunderstorms.

    We used to host our own list, but the issues with bounced emails due to RQ>systems security made it more than it was worth. Personally, I am on about 1 RQ>Yahoo! groups, two of which I moderate.

    Some are thinking of going to Google Groups instead.

    Planning to visit northcentral (Salem, Ash Flat) Arkansas maybe October, RQ>around my son's birthday. I have grandchildren I haven't met.

    Yeah, I know where they are. I'm in Little Rock, in the central part
    of the state.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to RAY QUINN on Sunday, February 04, 2018 12:26:00
    Ray,

    One group in Champaign, Illinois has a daily lunch net. They get on the repeater (likely D-Star), and ask "where do we want to eat lunch today??". <G>

    They must be off work during the week or retired.

    I think both are retired...but they try to pick up local hams on their
    lunch hour.

    Daryl

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  • From Ray Quinn@VERT/US99 to Daryl Stout on Sunday, February 11, 2018 18:16:00
    Daryl Stout wrote to RAY QUINN <=-

    You'll soon get to add all the static crashes from springtime thunderstorms.

    We rarely have thunderstorms and with the lack of rain here, even less often.

    We used to host our own list, but the issues with bounced emails due to
    systems security made it more than it was worth. Personally, I am on about 1
    Yahoo! groups, two of which I moderate.

    Some are thinking of going to Google Groups instead.

    Some of the lists I am on are migrating to groups.io.

    Planning to visit northcentral (Salem, Ash Flat) Arkansas maybe October,
    around my son's birthday. I have grandchildren I haven't met.

    Yeah, I know where they are. I'm in Little Rock, in the central part
    of the state.

    Been there, too. I used to drive truck all across this country. I attended a Wildland Fire Safety Class for Hired Vendors today for the upcoming fire season... Yaayy :-(



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    "(_)[___]====(_)(_)=| \_(___________)_/__/=(_)===(_)~'

    73 de Ray Quinn W6RAY
    Visalia, CA USA DM06ii



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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Ray Quinn on Wednesday, February 14, 2018 08:23:00
    Ray Quinn wrote to Daryl Stout <=-

    We rarely have thunderstorms and with the lack of rain here, even less often.

    Get the occasional one here. Dry storms are particularly troublesome.

    Some are thinking of going to Google Groups instead.

    Some of the lists I am on are migrating to groups.io.

    Groups.io is becoming quite popular. I like it, similar to Yahoo, but has a better feature set.


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  • From Ray Quinn@VERT/US99 to Vk3jed on Wednesday, February 28, 2018 14:25:00
    Vk3jed wrote to Ray Quinn <=-

    Ray Quinn wrote to Daryl Stout <=-

    We rarely have thunderstorms and with the lack of rain here, even less often.

    Get the occasional one here. Dry storms are particularly
    troublesome.


    We actually had spome rain on Monday, about 1/2 inch (1.27 cm), and the snow level got down to 1500 feet (457.2 meters) above sea level. (Visalia is about 300 feet or approximately 91 meters). We are expecting up to 48 inches (122 cm) at 7000 feet(2133 meters). Rain is expected tomorrow morning, Thursday 01 March through Saturday morning, March 03.

    Some are thinking of going to Google Groups instead.

    Some of the lists I am on are migrating to groups.io.

    Groups.io is becoming quite popular. I like it, similar to Yahoo,
    but has a better feature set.

    I may migrate the local radio club's list there as I am responsible for it, but I will put it to the membership first.


    ... What do you mean off topic??!!! There's a topic?

    It certainly doesn't match the "Subject"...


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Ray Quinn on Sunday, March 04, 2018 18:15:00
    Ray Quinn wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    We actually had spome rain on Monday, about 1/2 inch (1.27 cm), and
    the snow level got down to 1500 feet (457.2 meters) above sea level. (Visalia is about 300 feet or approximately 91 meters). We are
    expecting up to 48 inches (122 cm) at 7000 feet(2133 meters). Rain is expected tomorrow morning, Thursday 01 March through Saturday morning, March 03.

    Hmm, a bit of precipitation there. ;)

    Groups.io is becoming quite popular. I like it, similar to Yahoo,
    but has a better feature set.

    I may migrate the local radio club's list there as I am responsible for it, but I will put it to the membership first.

    Yes, best to do that. Groups.io also has easy migration features for group admins.


    ... What do you mean off topic??!!! There's a topic?

    It certainly doesn't match the "Subject"...

    LOL, that's normal. ;)


    ... It requires a very unusual mind to make an analysis of the obvious.

    True! :D But sometimes the obvious turns out to be not so obvious.


    ... "All men are ignorant, just in different fields." -- Einstein
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