Hello, all. I'm a long time retro tech enthusiast and while thinking
of a creative way to serve useful files to older systems that don't
have modern web browser, hit upon the idea of running a BBS. To that
end, I've gone and signed up for a $5/month VPS from Amazon and am looking at what software to run. Synchronet and Mystic appear to be
the heavy hitters here. It would appear that Synchronet offers much richer non-Telnet functionality, while Mystic provides a simpler interface for editing the look and feel of the Telnet interface. Are there any other big differences that might steer me to one package or
the other? Otherwise, I'll simply install them both and see what
feels best to me.
Also, does anybody have experience running BBS software in the cloud
or will I be a trailblazer here?
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Hello, all. I'm a long time retro tech enthusiast and while thinking
of a creative way to serve useful files to older systems that don't
have modern web browser, hit upon the idea of running a BBS. To that
end, I've gone and signed up for a $5/month VPS from Amazon and am
looking at what software to run. Synchronet and Mystic appear to be
the heavy hitters here. It would appear that Synchronet offers much
richer non-Telnet functionality, while Mystic provides a simpler
interface for editing the look and feel of the Telnet interface. Are
there any other big differences that might steer me to one package or
the other? Otherwise, I'll simply install them both and see what
feels best to me.
Also, does anybody have experience running BBS software in the cloud
or will I be a trailblazer here?
Also, does anybody have experience running BBS software in the cloud
or will I be a trailblazer here?
There's a few systems running in the cloud. I'm doing the next best thing, I run Mystic and Synchronet, each on a headless Pi, so they might as well be in the cloud.
Hello, all. I'm a long time retro tech enthusiast and while thinking
of a creative way to serve useful files to older systems that don't
have modern web browser,
Hello, all. I'm a long time retro tech enthusiast and while thinking
of a creative way to serve useful files to older systems that don't
have modern web browser, hit upon the idea of running a BBS. To that
end, I've gone and signed up for a $5/month VPS from Amazon and am looking at what software to run. Synchronet and Mystic appear to be
the heavy hitters here. It would appear that Synchronet offers much richer non-Telnet functionality, while Mystic provides a simpler interface for editing the look and feel of the Telnet interface. Are there any other big differences that might steer me to one package or
the other? Otherwise, I'll simply install them both and see what
feels best to me.
Also, does anybody have experience running BBS software in the cloud
or will I be a trailblazer here?
Why not just a FTP or something likethat if your main purpose is to serve
files to older systems..Realistically BBS scene needs more users
Sysops..
i would love it if people would stop referring to the internet as 'the cloud'
Re: Re: Thinking about starting a BBS.
By: MRO to Vk3jed on Tue Sep 19 2017 07:43 pm
i would love it if people would stop referring to the internet as 'the cloud'
How about 'information superhighway'? ;)
Nightfox wrote to MRO <=-
i would love it if people would stop referring to the internet as 'the cloud'
How about 'information superhighway'? ;)
Also, does anybody have experience running BBS software in the cloud
or will I be a trailblazer here?
i would love it if people would stop referring to the internet as 'the cloud'They are two very different things. "the cloud" is part of The Internet.
that and podcasting are terms i really think are stupid.
How about 'information superhighway'? ;)
yeah i hate that too!
Nightfox wrote to MRO <=-
i would love it if people would stop referring to the internet as 'the cloud'
How about 'information superhighway'? ;)
Hahahahaha! :D
Also, does anybody have experience running BBS software in the cloud or will I be a trailblazer here?
My BBS runs on a $20 a month Linode (www.linode.com) (2 CPU, 4GB RAM, 48GB Storage). They don't offer Windows machines, however, so that may be a
I prefer Linode because AWS does restrict e-mail sending/receiving on their EC2 instances. They have VMs starting at $5 a month (1 CPU, 1GB RAM, 20GB storage) as well.
If you decide to give a shot, my referral URL is:
i would love it if people would stop referring to the internet as 'the cloud'They are two very different things. "the cloud" is part of The Internet.
When it comes down to it, however, "The Cloud" is simply someone else's computer.
that and podcasting are terms i really think are stupid.
I get "podcasting". It is a mix of "iPod" and "broadcast". The name came about when iPods were the thing, and people would record radio shows to
i would love it if people would stop referring to the internet as 'the cloud'
How about 'information superhighway'? ;)
If that is what Wikipedia says about it, they're quite correct. I did not bother to go check. The information I relayed to you is from my own knowledge.I get "podcasting". It is a mix of "iPod" and "broadcast". The name
came about when iPods were the thing, and people would record radio
shows to
i know wikipedia says that, but it's not something i remember and i know wikipedia can have false and misleading information.
either way, it's a ridiculious word. people werent using ipods to record them or listen to them.
I get "podcasting". It is a mix of "iPod" and "broadcast". The name came about when iPods were the thing, and people would record radio shows to listen to later. As far as buzzwords go, "podcasting" is one I'm OK with.
MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
more like information super parking lot
Nightfox wrote to DaiTengu <=-
I'm generally okay with "podcast" as well, but at the same time I think there could be a better term for it. A podcast is really just a
recorded show (as you mentioned) in a file that you listen to later.
So what you're listening to is really just a file and not a live broadcast. Also, even when iPods were the thing (and I think still are
to an extent), iPods weren't the only audio player on the market.
Re: Re: Thinking about starting a BBS.
By: DaiTengu to MRO on Wed Sep 20 2017 05:47 pm
I get "podcasting". It is a mix of "iPod" and "broadcast". The name came about when iPods were the thing, and people would record radio shows to listen to later. As far as buzzwords go, "podcasting" is one I'm OK with.
I'm generally okay with "podcast" as well, but at the same time I think there could be a better term for it. A podcast is really just a recorded show (as you mentioned) in a file that you listen to later. So what you're listening to is really just a file and not a live broadcast. Also, even when iPods were the thing (and I think still are to an extent), iPods weren't the only audio player on the market.
Here, smartphones have mostly taken over from iPods. In my case, my second phone - an old iPhone 4S, spends more of its time as a glorified iPod than anything else nowadays. :)
i never heard of someone listening to a podcast on their 'ipod', and i had a bunch of maclover friends. usually they listened to them streaming on their computer.
Here, smartphones have mostly taken over from iPods. In my case, my second phone - an old iPhone 4S, spends more of its time as a glorified iPod than anything else nowadays. :)
Same here. However, even when iPods were more popular, there were a couple of other brands of MP3 players I had used. I also had a CD player that could play MP3 files burned onto CD.
Re: Re: Thinking about starting a BBS.
By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Sep 21 2017 05:01 pm
i never heard of someone listening to a podcast on their 'ipod', and i had a bunch of maclover friends. usually they listened to them streaming on their computer.
I'm surprised you never heard of people listening to them on their ipod. People do listen to them on their computer, but I've heard of people often listening to podcasts on their ipod (or other portable media device) while they go for a walk, exercise, drive somewhere, do yardwork, etc..
i never heard of someone listening to a podcast on their 'ipod', and i had a bunch of maclover friends. usually they listened to them streaming on their computer.
MikeK wrote to Deepend <=-I run my own cloud. I like being counter-culture.
Re: Re: Thinking about starting a BBS.
By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Sep 21 2017 05:01 pm
i never heard of someone listening to a podcast on their 'ipod', and i had a bunch of maclover friends. usually they listened to them streaming on their computer.
iPods were for people that left their house.
i would listen to them on my computer and people i knew did. i did however listen to audiobooks while walking and exercising. i didnt think podcasts were THAT special that people did more than stream them at the desktop.
yeah, me too. i had ones that took a memory card early in the day of digital music players. and my cd mp3 player was great. i could really take as many songs as i liked to work. ipod was limited.
Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Same here. However, even when iPods were more popular, there were a couple of other brands of MP3 players I had used. I also had a CD
player that could play MP3 files burned onto CD.
MRO wrote to Nightfox <=-
i never heard of someone listening to a podcast on their 'ipod', and i
had a bunch of maclover friends. usually they listened to them
streaming on their computer.
Nightfox wrote to MRO <=-
I'm surprised you never heard of people listening to them on their
ipod. People do listen to them on their computer, but I've heard of
people often listening to podcasts on their ipod (or other portable
media device) while they go for a walk, exercise, drive somewhere, do yardwork, etc..
Nightfox wrote to MRO <=-
Listening to a podcast is also something to do for those who take
public transit to work & back.
True, there were alternatives, but the iPod had the popular attention in the early 2000s. It's not the first time a brand name has entered common language.
Other examples include "hoover" (meaning to vacuum), from the Hoover brand name, and doona (an old Australian brand of duvet), and we all know about Googling. ;)
Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I know the Hoover brand, but I've never heard anyone use "hoover" as a verb ("I'm going to hoover my room"?). Also, even though the iPod is
well-known, I don't remember anyone using iPod as a generic term for a music player. And I had to google "duvet" because I've never heard
that before.. :P
True, there were alternatives, but the iPod had the popular attention in the early 2000s. It's not the first time a brand name has entered common language.
Other examples include "hoover" (meaning to vacuum), from the Hoover brand name, and doona (an old Australian brand of duvet), and we all know about Googling. ;)
MRO wrote to Nightfox <=-
i never heard of someone listening to a podcast on their 'ipod', and i had a bunch of maclover friends. usually they listened to them streaming on their computer.
I'm a bit surprised. I know a number of people who use either a phone or portable media player in the car, for instance, to listen to podcasts while driving. Probably better than a lot of what passes for "radio" these days.
I know the Hoover brand, but I've never heard anyone use "hoover" as a verb >("I'm going to hoover my room"?). Also, even though the iPod is well-known, I >don't remember anyone using iPod as a generic term for a music player. And I >had to google "duvet" because I've never heard that before.. :P
I know the Hoover brand, but I've never heard anyone use "hoover" as a verb >("I'm going to hoover my room"?). Also, even though the iPod is well-known, I >don't remember anyone using iPod as a generic term for a music player. And I >had to google "duvet" because I've never heard that before.. :P
I have read and heard hoover many times from British sources. I don't
think we use it much as a verb in the USA.
Jagossel wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Huh... Never heard of "hoovering" before. I've always known it as "vacuuming".
MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
i'm talking about ipods back in that time period.
Re: Re: Thinking about starting a BBS.
By: MRO to Vk3jed on Tue Sep 19 2017 07:43 pm
How about 'information superhighway'? ;)
Huh... Never heard of "hoovering" before. I've always known it as
"vacuuming".
I think it originated in the UK.
Huh... Never heard of "hoovering" before. I've always known it as
"vacuuming".
I think it originated in the UK.
Hoover was a popular Vacuum brand that was a huge seller, I remeber hoover salesman going door to door selling them when I was a kid.
big heavy beast of a vacuum.
Nightfox wrote to Roadhog <=-
I thought Hoover was still a fairly popular brand of vacuum. But there are other brands that are popular and have been for a long time, so I think that's why the term "hoovering" probably didn't take off in the
US. Too many brands, so people always just said "vacuuming".
I remember another brand called Electrolux which was relatively
popular. I heard Electrolux is based in a country where English isn't
the first language, and a while ago, they tried to come up with the
slogan "Nothing sucks like an Electrolux", and of course, that would be
a rather unfortunate slogan in English-speaking countries (at least in
the US).
I remember another brand called Electrolux which was relatively popular. I heard Electrolux is based in a country where English isn't the first languag and a while ago, they tried to come up with the slogan "Nothing sucks like a Electrolux", and of course, that would be a rather unfortunate slogan in English-speaking countries (at least in the US).
Hoover was a popular Vacuum brand that was a huge seller, I remeber
hoover salesman going door to door selling them when I was a kid.
big heavy beast of a vacuum.
I thought Hoover was still a fairly popular brand of vacuum. But there are
Yea, that's like trying to sell a car called, "Nova" in Spanish-speaking countries (not sure if this really happened or not).
International, cross-lingual, marketing is a challenge, I suppose.
listening to is really just a file and not a live broadcast. Also, even when iPods were the thing (and I think still are to an extent), iPods weren't the only audio player on the market.
I listen to Zunecasts.
Nope Done itover 2 years ago.
You might want to check out Vultr.com for a good VPS, I pay $2.50 per month for it. 512mb mem and 25GB HD. been using them for several years now to run my game servers.
Nope Done itover 2 years ago.
You might want to check out Vultr.com for a good VPS, I pay $2.50 per month for it. 512mb mem and 25GB HD. been using them for several years now to run my game servers.
sound really interesting, i'm actually self hosting but my bbs is virtualized, so the image could run anywhere. So if I have an hardware failure or tired to run it at home that sound like a great alternative.
Virtual is the way to go for sure! Nothing like riding on a real server with all the good stuff like RAID/SMP and in a real data centre, and all that jazz.
Where's the fun in that? I just rebooted my BBS laptop and had to blow into the fan outlet to kick start the fan. Good times!
Where's the fun in that? I just rebooted my BBS laptop and had to blow into the fan outlet to kick start the fan. Good times!
If you don't see that exposed motherboard your not 1337 :-D
Where's the fun in that? I just rebooted my BBS laptop and had to blow into the fan outlet to kick start the fan. Good times!
If you don't see that exposed motherboard your not 1337 :-D
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Neozeed <=-
Where's the fun in that? I just rebooted my BBS laptop and had to blow into the fan outlet to kick start the fan. Good times!
Argon wrote to Ennev <=-
If you don't see that exposed motherboard your not 1337 :-D
Ahh yes, the good ole days. >:D
I've had many like that. LOL
If you don't see that exposed motherboard your not 1337 :-D
Ahh yes, the good ole days. >:D
I've had many like that. LOL
LOL me too. :D
I had a PII motherboard nailed to the wall, made for some nice techno art - and was my primary desktop!
If you don't see that exposed motherboard your not 1337 :-D
gotta have the side open with a box fan on it.
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
LOL me too. :D
I had a PII motherboard nailed to the wall, made for some nice techno
art - and was my primary desktop!
If you don't see that exposed motherboard your not 1337 :-D
gotta have the side open with a box fan on it.
If you need the side open with a box fan on it, then the PC has a significant cooling problem that should be addressed..
I had a PII motherboard nailed to the wall, made for some nice
techno art - and was my primary desktop!
Now that's neat, and also good for natural convective cooling, if aligned correctly. :)
If you need the side open with a box fan on it, then the PC has a
significant cooling problem that should be addressed..
my videocard got hot all the time.
nothing wrong with it, just the way it is. cpu got a bit hot too. that's older computers for you. my newcomputer is nice and cool
It remind me of a few years ago on the podcast show Hak5 that one of the project was to mount a working motherboard on a ikea frame. Nice for machine used as a server.
cooler (a thin strip of material that was powered that transfered heat from one side to the other) - One time I opened up that computer to clean it out and I pulled the CPU out and saw that some of the pins were rusted. Apparently it had gotten cold enough at some point to cause some condensation on the pins..
I had a video card like that once, which was getting hot. I rigged a case fan to hang on an expansion slot cover and hung it inside my PC case to blow at the video card. That was still not quite good enough though. It was hot enough that the video output got glitchy when playing video games etc.. I think I eventually RMA'd that video card and returned/exchanged it.
Re: Re: Thinking about starting a BBS.
By: Vk3jed to Argon on Thu Oct 05 2017 10:09 pm
If you don't see that exposed motherboard your not 1337 :-D
Ahh yes, the good ole days. >:D
I've had many like that. LOL
LOL me too. :D
I had a PII motherboard nailed to the wall, made for some nice techno art - and was my primary desktop!
Re: Re: Thinking about starting a BBS.
By: MRO to Ennev on Wed Oct 04 2017 07:48 pm
If you don't see that exposed motherboard your not 1337 :-D
gotta have the side open with a box fan on it.
If you need the side open with a box fan on it, then the PC has a significant cooling problem that should be addressed..
Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I had some PCs in the past that would start to beep in the summer due
to excessive heat (apparently the cooler wasn't good enough). You have
to make sure it has good cooling. That PC I had even had a peltier
plate on its CPU cooler (a thin strip of material that was powered that transfered heat from one side to the other) - One time I opened up that computer to clean it out and I pulled the CPU out and saw that some of
the pins were rusted. Apparently it had gotten cold enough at some
point to cause some condensation on the pins..
Where's the fun in that? I just rebooted my BBS laptop and had to blow into the fan outlet to kick start the fan. Good times!
:)
i wish Hak5 would come back.
Have you ever seen a Lack Rack? IKEA makes a plastic end table called the Lack that has the cool benefit of the legs being 19" apart. Drill holes in the legs and you have a $19 rack that holds about 12U of equipment.
I work in a store and you should see the filth in those dekstops and laptops. its more than disgusting. I did hear stories about cockroaches in the xbox consoles in new york though. I didn't see it but only heard about it. Those critters do love heat so I'm not surprised about that.Where's the fun in that? I just rebooted my BBS laptop and had to blow in the fan outlet to kick start the fan. Good times!
If you don't see that exposed motherboard your not 1337 :-D
cooler (a thin strip of material that was powered that transfered heat
from one side to the other) - One time I opened up that computer to
clean it out and I pulled the CPU out and saw that some of the pins
were rusted. Apparently it had gotten cold enough at some point to
cause some condensation on the pins..
gold doesnt rust. it was probably some type of crud.
If you need the side open with a box fan on it, then the PC has a
significant cooling problem that should be addressed..
That's what the box fan was for. LOL
dunno, maybe it is a case by case basis but i thought they were gold plated. ---gold doesnt rust. it was probably some type of crud.
I thought the CPU pins were copper.. And the rust was green, and I know copper rust is green.
Nightfox
If you need the side open with a box fan on it, then the PC has a
significant cooling problem that should be addressed..
That's what the box fan was for. LOL
That's not the proper cooling solution. :P
Re: Re: Thinking about starting a BBS.
By: Argon to Nightfox on Thu Oct 05 2017 10:37 pm
If you need the side open with a box fan on it, then the PC has a
significant cooling problem that should be addressed..
That's what the box fan was for. LOL
That's not the proper cooling solution. :P
significant cooling problem that should be addressed..
That's what the box fan was for. LOL
That's not the proper cooling solution. :P
But it sure is useful when you need it :D
I thought the CPU pins were copper.. And the rust was green, and I
know copper rust is green.
dunno, maybe it is a case by case basis but i thought they were gold plated.
Plated maybe, but I'm fairly sure they were copper. If they're gold plated then maybe the gold could wear off a bit and expose the copper. I'm not sure why they'd need to use gold anyway as it's a more expensive metal and is a relatively soft metal that can be worn down easily. I imagine copper would work just fine.
I thought the CPU pins were copper.. And the rust was green, and I
know copper rust is green.
dunno, maybe it is a case by case basis but i thought they were gold
plated.
Plated maybe, but I'm fairly sure they were copper. If they're gold plated then maybe the gold could wear off a bit and expose the copper. I'm not sure why they'd need to use gold anyway as it's a more expensive metal and is a relatively soft metal that can be worn down easily. I imagine copper would work just fine.
Re: Thinking about starting a BBS.
By: MikeK to All on Tue Sep 19 2017 10:54 am
Also, does anybody have experience running BBS software in the cloud
or will I be a trailblazer here?
My BBS runs on a $20 a month Linode (www.linode.com) (2 CPU, 4GB RAM, 48GB Storage). They don't offer Windows machines, however, so that may be a dealbreaker.
I prefer Linode because AWS does restrict e-mail sending/receiving on their EC2 instances. They have VMs starting at $5 a month (1 CPU, 1GB RAM, 20GB storage) as well.
I prefer Linode because AWS does restrict e-mail sending/receiving on
their EC2 instances. They have VMs starting at $5 a month (1 CPU, 1GB
RAM, 20GB storage) as well.
We send lots of email through AWS at work so I am not sure your information is current.
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