Like it or lump it, Microsoft is making damn sure you're going to be running Windows 10 in the next 12 months.

By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols of Computer World

I was a windows 8 Beta Tester and a Windows 10 Beta tester, I really hated Windows 8 untill they made 8.1 wich I'm ok with on my laptop.
For me Windows 10 was ok but I still prefer windows 7 pro and if they Force me to upgrade I may just switch all my Computers to Linux.
Been considering switching my BBS to Linux anyway, I already run my Game servers on a Linux VPS for the past 5 years .
Microsoft has lost a good share of the server business now they may be pushing PC users away.

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Denn wrote to All <=-

Like it or lump it, Microsoft is making damn sure you're going to be running Windows 10 in the next 12 months.

Hmm, OK. Yeah I just never got around to it, perhaps I should. :)

By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols of Computer World

I was a windows 8 Beta Tester and a Windows 10 Beta tester, I really
hated Windows 8 untill they made 8.1 wich I'm ok with on my laptop.
For me Windows 10 was ok but I still prefer windows 7 pro and if they Force me to upgrade I may just switch all my Computers to Linux.
Been considering switching my BBS to Linux anyway, I already run my
Game servers on a Linux VPS for the past 5 years .
Microsoft has lost a good share of the server business now they may be pushing PC users away.

I hardly used Windows 8/8.1, but the little I did use it was fine. Windows 10 I don't mind, though I still prefer the interface of Windows 7. I've run my server stuff on Linux for many years, I only had one Windows server to play with, which now lives on a VM, and hasn't been fired up in years. A couple of server applications that required Windows are either no longer used, or Linux equivalents have been found.

"... "640K ought to be enough for anybody." Bill Gates '81"

:)


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Re: Microsoft Windows 10 Upgrade
By: Denn to All on Sun Aug 13 2017 21:23:21

Like it or lump it, Microsoft is making damn sure you're going to be running Windows 10 in the next 12 months.

I really don't why Microsoft has been agressively pushing Windows 10 onto every one who does use Windows on their PC; and forcing updates onto users. They, also, have begun to have more of their software to run other platforms like Mac OSX, and Linux (Visual Studio Code and SQL Server). They added the ability to run Linux software on Windows with Linux Subsystem for Windows. It makes wonder what the plan is. I've rumors that they may make Windows open source, and I heard rumors that they may do a subscription service for Windows; not sure what to believe at this point. Just seems like Microsoft took a really weird turn of direction with their software, and opened up some of their .NET framework (.MET Core). Ack, who knows?

By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols of Computer World

I was a windows 8 Beta Tester and a Windows 10 Beta tester, I really hated Windows 8 untill they made 8.1 wich I'm ok with on my laptop.
For me Windows 10 was ok but I still prefer windows 7 pro and if they Force

me

to upgrade I may just switch all my Computers to Linux.
Been considering switching my BBS to Linux anyway, I already run my Game servers on a Linux VPS for the past 5 years .
Microsoft has lost a good share of the server business now they may be push

ing

PC users away.

That seems to be the case with a lot of computer savvy people: switching over to Linux because of being forced to use Windows 10.

"... "640K ought to be enough for anybody." Bill Gates '81"

Really? Do you guys pick tag lines or is there some sort of randomize selection based on the content? :D

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Re: Microsoft Windows 10 Upgrade
By: jagossel to Denn on Mon Aug 14 2017 07:07 am

"... "640K ought to be enough for anybody." Bill Gates '81"

Really? Do you guys pick tag lines or is there some sort of randomize selection based on the content? :D

I pick the tagline I want, I use slyedit (ext editor).

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Re: Microsoft Windows 10 Upgrade
By: jagossel to Denn on Mon Aug 14 2017 07:07 am

I really don't why Microsoft has been agressively pushing Windows 10 onto every one who does use Windows on their PC; and forcing updates onto

I've heard that Windows 10 tracks a lot of information.. There are settings that let you turn off some of its tracking (which interestingly enough, disables Cortana, which is one of their main selling points in Windows 10). But I've heard there might be tracking that you can't turn off.. I'm not sure if there's truth to that or if it's just a conspiracy theory.

users. They, also, have begun to have more of their software to run other platforms like Mac OSX, and Linux (Visual Studio Code and SQL Server). They added the ability to run Linux software on Windows with Linux Subsystem for Windows. It makes wonder what the plan is. I've rumors that they may make Windows open source, and I heard rumors that they may do a subscription service for Windows; not sure what to believe at this point. Just seems like Microsoft took a really weird turn of direction with their software, and opened up some of their .NET framework (.MET Core). Ack, who knows?

Perhaps Microsoft has finally admitted that there are other platforms out there and are opening up to them.. I'm not sure if I really trust them, but I suppose what they're doing seems like a good sign so far. If they do make Windows a subscription service, I might just switch to Linux.

That seems to be the case with a lot of computer savvy people: switching over to Linux because of being forced to use Windows 10.

The Windows 10 upgrade was free for a while.. I'm really not sure what the uproar was all about with being given a free OS upgrade. And what's funny is if you look at Mac OS X users vs. Windows users, OS X users are always happy to have an OS upgrade, but when Windows users get offered an upgrade, they're pissed off..

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Re: Microsoft Windows 10 Upgrade
By: Denn to All on Sun Aug 13 2017 09:23 pm

Like it or lump it, Microsoft is making damn sure you're going to be running Windows 10 in the next 12 months.

By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols of Computer World

I was a windows 8 Beta Tester and a Windows 10 Beta tester, I really hated Windows 8 untill they made 8.1 wich I'm ok with on my laptop.
For me Windows 10 was ok but I still prefer windows 7 pro and if they Force me to upgrade I may just switch all my Computers to Linux.
Been considering switching my BBS to Linux anyway, I already run my Game servers on a Linux VPS for the past 5 years .
Microsoft has lost a good share of the server business now they may be pushing PC users away.

not much info there.

anyways, i like windows 10
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Roadhog wrote to jagossel <=-

"... "640K ought to be enough for anybody." Bill Gates '81"

Really? Do you guys pick tag lines or is there some sort of randomize selection based on the content? :D

I pick the tagline I want, I use slyedit (ext editor).

Mine are mostly random, because with Multimail, picking a tagline is very tedious. Bluewave makes manual selection much easier.


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Nightfox wrote to jagossel <=-

I've heard that Windows 10 tracks a lot of information.. There are settings that let you turn off some of its tracking (which
interestingly enough, disables Cortana, which is one of their main
selling points in Windows 10). But I've heard there might be tracking
that you can't turn off.. I'm not sure if there's truth to that or if it's just a conspiracy theory.

Yeah I'm probably one who's not likely to use Cortana, like I never used Siri on the iPhone.

The Windows 10 upgrade was free for a while.. I'm really not sure what the uproar was all about with being given a free OS upgrade. And
what's funny is if you look at Mac OS X users vs. Windows users, OS X users are always happy to have an OS upgrade, but when Windows users
get offered an upgrade, they're pissed off..

You can still get a free upgrade through other Microsoft channels.


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Mro wrote to Denn <=-

not much info there.

anyways, i like windows 10

I don't mind it, though I find the categorisation of their start menu gets in the way a bit, because I now have to guess what categories apps are in, instead of simply looking through the list alphabetically.


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Re: Re: Microsoft Windows 10 Upgrade
By: Vk3jed to Mro on Tue Aug 15 2017 09:23 am

Mro wrote to Denn <=-

not much info there.

anyways, i like windows 10

I don't mind it, though I find the categorisation of their start menu gets in the way a bit, because I now have to guess what categories apps are in, instead of simply looking through the list alphabetically.

i use classic shell.
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Re: Re: Microsoft Windows 10 Upgrade
By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Tue Aug 15 2017 09:19 am

You can still get a free upgrade through other Microsoft channels.

I actually downloaded the windows 10 iso so if I change my mind I can go back to using windows 10, I just like the windows 7 interface better and I hate being forced to chande OS's by MS.
I have been also using Linux for years so going to linux for me would be easy. I just have allot invested in windows programs and some cannot be run using wine.

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Re: Re: Microsoft Windows 10 Upgrade
By: Roadhog to Vk3jed on Tue Aug 15 2017 07:57 am

Re: Re: Microsoft Windows 10 Upgrade
By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Tue Aug 15 2017 09:19 am

You can still get a free upgrade through other Microsoft channels.

I actually downloaded the windows 10 iso so if I change my mind I can go back to using windows 10, I just like the windows 7 interface better and I hate being forced to chande OS's by MS.
I have been also using Linux for years so going to linux for me would be easy. I just have allot invested in windows programs and some cannot be run using wine.

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mike ehlert told me that if you turn on your disability stuff you get the notification to download win10. it worked for me but the install bombed.
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Mro wrote to Vk3jed <=-

i use classic shell.

That would probably help.


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Roadhog wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I actually downloaded the windows 10 iso so if I change my mind I can
go back to using windows 10, I just like the windows 7 interface better and I hate being forced to chande OS's by MS.

Windows 7 is one of the better Windows interfaces. No doubt, I will get used to Windows 10 as I use it more.

I have been also using Linux for years so going to linux for me would
be easy. I just have allot invested in windows programs and some cannot
be run using wine.

Yeah, I'm in the same boat as you. Used Linux for many years (use it heavily as a server OS), have occasionally run a Linux desktop, but have a lot of Windows programs, not all of which will run under WINE.


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Re: Re: Microsoft Windows 10 Upgrade
By: Roadhog to Vk3jed on Tue Aug 15 2017 07:57 am

I actually downloaded the windows 10 iso so if I change my mind I can go back to using windows 10, I just like the windows 7 interface better and I hate being forced to chande OS's by MS.

I prefer the Windows 7 interface too. The user interfaces in Windows and OS X have both gotten more flat and monotone, which I think is uglier.. I'm not really sure why they wanted to go that direction.

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Re: Microsoft Windows 10 Upgrade
By: Nightfox to Roadhog on Tue Aug 15 2017 06:45 pm

I prefer the Windows 7 interface too. The user interfaces in Windows and OS X have both gotten more flat and monotone, which I think is uglier.. I'm not really sure why they wanted to go that direction.

i like win7 and there's some good things about winblows 10.
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Mro wrote to Roadhog <=-

mike ehlert told me that if you turn on your disability stuff you get
the notification to download win10. it worked for me but the install bombed. ---

You don't even need to do that, there's a spot on the Microsoft site where you just need to make a declaration.


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Nightfox wrote to Roadhog <=-

I prefer the Windows 7 interface too. The user interfaces in Windows
and OS X have both gotten more flat and monotone, which I think is uglier.. I'm not really sure why they wanted to go that direction.

I don't notice that stuff, I'm talking more about general functionality. They have dumbed down Windows 10 in subtle ways that have removed a couple of shortcuts I use in Win 7.


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Re: Re: Microsoft Windows 10 Upgrade
By: Vk3jed to Roadhog on Wed Aug 16 2017 09:09 am

Windows 7 is one of the better Windows interfaces. No doubt, I will get used to Windows 10 as I use it more.

Windows interfaces get more complicated, and I like the earlier, more streamlined interfaces. When XP came out, I liked the sparseness of my Windows 95 VM. Now that I'm running Windows 10 on my systems, my son's laptop running Windows 7 feels like 95 used to feel.

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poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Windows interfaces get more complicated, and I like the earlier, more streamlined interfaces. When XP came out, I liked the sparseness of my Windows 95 VM. Now that I'm running Windows 10 on my systems, my son's laptop running Windows 7 feels like 95 used to feel.

95 was a significant improvement when it came out, though I think I'd have to give the points to XP and 7 for various reasons. Vista was similar, though 7 was an improvement in subtle ways.


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Re: Re: Microsoft Windows 10 Upgrade
By: Vk3jed to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Aug 18 2017 07:10 am

95 was a significant improvement when it came out, though I think I'd have to give the points to XP and 7 for various reasons. Vista was similar, though 7 was an improvement in subtle ways.

I think peoples' big complaint about Vista was that it used too much memory and hard drive space. I think Windows 7 improved on that a bit.

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Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I think peoples' big complaint about Vista was that it used too much memory and hard drive space. I think Windows 7 improved on that a bit.

Yes, but Vista did run well if you threw hardware at it. :)


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Re: Re: Microsoft Windows 10 Upgrade
By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Fri Aug 18 2017 08:05 pm

I think peoples' big complaint about Vista was that it used too much
memory and hard drive space. I think Windows 7 improved on that a
bit.

Yes, but Vista did run well if you threw hardware at it. :)

Vista always needed a fresh install after about 3 months.
it just seemed to get erratic after awhile, it looked good but windows 7 fixed alot of things that were so bad in Vista.

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Re: Re: Microsoft Windows 10 Upgrade
By: Roadhog to Vk3jed on Fri Aug 18 2017 05:37 am

Vista always needed a fresh install after about 3 months.
it just seemed to get erratic after awhile, it looked good but windows 7 fixed alot of things that were so bad in Vista.

I call it Windows Hasta La Vista..

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Re: Re: Microsoft Windows 10 Upgrade
By: Roadhog to Vk3jed on Fri Aug 18 2017 05:37 am

Vista always needed a fresh install after about 3 months.
it just seemed to get erratic after awhile, it looked good but windows 7 fixed alot of things that were so bad in Vista.

well that's a big harsh. i ran vista for a bit and didnt have any problems other than it was a tad slower compared to win7.
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Roadhog wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Vista always needed a fresh install after about 3 months.
it just seemed to get erratic after awhile, it looked good but windows
7 fixed alot of things that were so bad in Vista.

I still have my original Vista installation from 9 years ago on another PC. Still works fine. I do agree, Windows 7 was an improvement. :) My Vista installation was a fresh 64 bit installation on a new PC. I know people who upgraded from XP had the most problems, far more than a clean installation had.


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Mro wrote to Roadhog <=-

well that's a big harsh. i ran vista for a bit and didnt have any
problems other than it was a tad slower compared to win7.

Pretty much my experience as well. I couldn't see what the problems with Vista were, except for being a bit heavy on RAM. I had more (minor, annoying) issues with XP than Vista.


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Re: Re: Microsoft Windows 10 Upgrade
By: Vk3jed to Roadhog on Sat Aug 19 2017 07:40 am

Vista always needed a fresh install after about 3 months.
it just seemed to get erratic after awhile, it looked good but windows 7 fixed alot of things that were so bad in Vista.

I still have my original Vista installation from 9 years ago on another PC. Still works fine. I do agree, Windows 7 was an improvement. :) My Vista installation was a fresh 64 bit installation on a new PC. I know people who upgraded from XP had the most problems, far more than a clean installation had.

i guess windows vista had some problems with hardware drivers. i got vista as a new install on a dual core republic of gamers laptop. i didnt really suffer any issues.
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Mro wrote to Vk3jed <=-

i guess windows vista had some problems with hardware drivers. i got
vista as a new install on a dual core republic of gamers laptop. i
didnt really suffer any issues.

Yeah I did hear a lot of issues were caused by using old (XP) drivers, so for those of us who started with a fresh installation on new hardware, especiallt 64 bit, problems were few.


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