I ended up testing the modem on Earthlink's dialup test server using minicom. The modem works, but it would have been significantly more interesting testing the modem on a live BBS.
I ended up testing the modem on Earthlink's dialup test server using
minicom. The modem works, but it would have been significantly more interesting testing the modem on a live BBS.
DUMAS WALKER wrote to GANDOLF <=-
Congrats. My BBS still has dial-up. I have been hoping that someone
will call it & let me know if it is still working since the change from OS/2 to dosemu under debian. :)
I miss the days of dialup, but the home my father bought gave up their copper line where I cant do dialup anymore.
Those were interesting times. We take the internet and modern computers for granted.
Running a 35,000 node BBS network using dialup modems for user access and store-and-forward networking using DOS kind of boggles the mind when you think about it.
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Matthew Munson <=-
I miss the days of dialup, but the home my father bought gave up their copper line where I cant do dialup anymore.
Those were interesting times. We take the internet and modern computers for granted.
Running a 35,000 node BBS network using dialup modems for user access
and store-and-forward networking using DOS kind of boggles the mind
when you think about it.
I miss the days of dialup, but the home my father bought gave up their copper >line where I cant do dialup anymore.
DUMAS WALKER wrote to GANDOLF <=-
Congrats. My BBS still has dial-up. I have been hoping that someone will call it & let me know if it is still working since the change from OS/2 to dosemu under debian. :)
I miss the days of dialup, but the home my father bought gave up their copper line where I cant do dialup anymore.
It is odd, in a way... I bought a house a few years back that was built in 1968. It does not appear that it was originally wired for phone service...
In 1997, when I bought my first house, I'd have thought it weird if it was not wired, as built or post-market, for a phoneline.
So basically, over < 50 years time, we've gone from houses being built where having a phoneline was not considered a necessity to a time where that is again true. :)
Nightfox wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
The telephone was invented long before 1968. I would have thought
phone jacks would have been fairly standard at the time. And back
then, when there were no cell phones or internet, I would have thought most people would have had telephones.. I'd think it would have been common to call people on the phone back then? Or was even local phone service too expensive?
In 1997, when I bought my first house, I'd have thought it weird if it was not wired, as built or post-market, for a phoneline.
So basically, over < 50 years time, we've gone from houses being built
where having a phoneline was not considered a necessity to a time where
that is again true. :)
We never had a phone until 1976. Sure, they were commonly available, but I guess my parents didn't think the cost justified getting one.
I guess landline phones are on their way out as cell phones are the norm now-a-days.
Running a 35,000 node BBS network using dialup modems for user access
and store-and-forward networking using DOS kind of boggles the mind
when you think about it.
I was thinking about that recently.. I thought it was pretty cool back in the day when I got my BBS on FidoNet, and thinking about how it all worked.
Yes, there was something special about the dialup days. Sure, we have some awesome technology at our disposal today, but there's a vibe that seems largely missing. A bit of it has come back on the revived BBS networks, but sadly, the users, who contributed a lot as well are mostly gone now. :(
So basically, over < 50 years time, we've gone from houses being built where having a phoneline was not considered a necessity to a time where that is again true. :)
I guess landline phones are on their way out as cell phones are the norm now-a-days.
I was thinking about that recently.. I thought it was pretty cool
back in the day when I got my BBS on FidoNet, and thinking about how
it all worked.
The first time my batch file ran Frontdoor, exited on the proper errorlevels for modem callers, updated my nodelist when a diff arrived and ran all the maintenance steps was a moment I remember - I couldn't believe it all worked!
I guess landline phones are on their way out as cell phones are the nor now-a-days.
Land lines always had the advantage that even if the power went out, they'd still work, so you could call emergency lines (such as 911) if you had to, etc.. If your cell phone battery dies and the power is out, then you might out of luck if you can't find a working phone.
I guess landline phones are on their way out as cell phones are the norm now-a-days.
Copper cable plants cost too much to maintain - their customers are people i rural areas without much of a voice, and credit card machines, more and more which are moving to wifi.
When Hurricane Sandy hit a few years back, some areas in New York, Roosevelt island in particular, took serious damage to their cable plant. Verizon deci to chuck it all and install home cell phone adapters - basically an analog terminal adapter with a sim card and a GSM radio - they claimed it was too expensive to fix the copper. Alarm systems, credit card machines, faxes and modems didn't work. At least fixed devices like these have E911
location services. If you have enough bars, that is.
Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
If your parents wanted to talk to a friend, or your school, etc., what
did they do? Send a letter, or drive over there?
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I am in touch with some of my callers from the dialup days, I don't
think any of them have called the new incarnation. For my BBS and my primary network, nirvanaNET, we kept it local for the most part.
Political discussions had a local bent, and we got together at least
once a quarter to meet face-to-face, share drinks, and see the people behind the text. It kept things topical, and kept things polite, for
the most part.
Some of my callers made lifelong friends, hooked up and/or met their significant others on the boards back then.
Jagossel wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
I guess landline phones are on their way out as cell phones are the
norm now-a-days.
Nightfox wrote to Jagossel <=-
Land lines always had the advantage that even if the power went out, they'd still work, so you could call emergency lines (such as 911) if
you had to, etc.. If your cell phone battery dies and the power is
out, then you might be out of luck if you can't find a working phone.
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Nightfox <=-
The first time my batch file ran Frontdoor, exited on the proper errorlevels for modem callers, updated my nodelist when a diff arrived
and ran all the maintenance steps was a moment I remember - I couldn't believe it all worked!
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
In Silicon Valley, people are building houses with Cat 6 and/or fiber
to each room!
I just want an ethernet backbone running from my cable modem to my upstairs office. My wife gets 140 mbps down next to the modem, up in my office I get 40!
I guess landline phones are on their way out as cell phones are the norm now-a-days.
That or VoIP.
Visit or walk down to a phone booth and use the payphone. :)
Jagossel wrote to Vk3jed <=-
True, I completely forgot about VoIP. Hard to believe that even cable providers are able to do phone services using VoIP (I believe, don't
quote me on it).
I always run cable for fixed systems. I have an Ethernet cable running right through the middle of the house to feed the shack PCs and other ham stuff. :) Over the next few years, I am going to have to upgrade to 1Gbps on the LAN, now that I have 100/40 Internet. Next Internet upgrade will exceed LAN bandwidth, though that is years off.
I guess landline phones are on their way out as cell phones are the
norm now-a-days.
Land lines always had the advantage that even if the power went out, they'd still work, so you could call emergency lines (such as 911) if you had to, etc.. If your cell phone battery dies and the power is out, then you might be out of luck if you can't find a working phone.
True, I completely forgot about VoIP. Hard to believe that even cable providers are able to do phone services using VoIP (I believe, don't quote me on it).
Why not? IP is IP. :)
Gandolf wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I wonder how the phone company would respond if I asked them to install
a pay-phone in my house....??????
Mro wrote to Vk3jed <=-
i put everything in the basement and drill holes in the floor to run
cable up into the rooms. works nice.
Jagossel wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Why not? IP is IP. :)
Internet protocol is intectual proprty? Of whom? :D
Roadhog wrote to Nightfox <=-
thats why the tech gods invented battery charge packs, I have a cheap
one that will charge up to 70% and a good one that can chare a phone 4 times.
thats why the tech gods invented battery charge packs, I have a
cheap one that will charge up to 70% and a good one that can chare a
phone 4 times.
And I have an 8000 mAh one that has a solar panel on the back, so it can slowly charge by being left in the sun. :)
Why not? IP is IP. :)
Internet protocol is intectual proprty? Of whom? :D
Internet protocol is Internet protocol. ;)
Land lines always had the advantage that even if the power went out, they'd still work, so you could call emergency lines (such as 911) if you had to, etc.. If your cell phone battery dies and the power is out, then you might be out of luck if you can't find a working phone.
see that people were calling. And when I left the house to go somewhere, I looked forward to seeing how many callers my BBS might have received while I was away, and seeing my BBS still running and doing its thing when I got back home.
well as through policies. When you get a landline, you must be listed in the national phone directory. However, you can have a silent or unlisted number. The catch is the dominant telco charges an extra monthly listing for a silent number.
And I have an 8000 mAh one that has a solar panel on the back, so it can slowly charge by being left in the sun. :)
I wonder how the phone company would respond if I asked them to
install a pay-phone in my house....??????
Haha they used to be on a lot of street corners back in the 1970s. :)
And I have an 8000 mAh one that has a solar panel on the back, so it can slowly charge by being left in the sun. :)
Nice, I will look into those.
The telephone was invented long before 1968. I would have thought phone jacks >would have been fairly standard at the time. And back then, when there were no
cell phones or internet, I would have thought most people would have had >telephones.. I'd think it would have been common to call people on the phone >back then? Or was even local phone service too expensive?
I just want an ethernet backbone running from my cable modem to my upstairs >office. My wife gets 140 mbps down next to the modem, up in my office I get 40!
Roadhog wrote to Vk3jed <=-
And I have an 8000 mAh one that has a solar panel on the back, so it can slowly charge by being left in the sun. :)
Nice, I will look into those.
Hustler wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Internet protocol is Internet protocol. ;)
It all belongs to me. All of it! It's mine, mine, mine!
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
The telcos do that in the US, too -- charging for a non-existent
service seemed normal to them.
I remember reading an April Fools' day article in one of my telco magazines about the phone companies running out of the "imaginary" 555-XXXX numbers used in movies and television in the States. They were coming up with a plan to backhaul a "new" batch of imaginary numbers,
as soon as they could get a tariff established for charging for non-existent services. Since they charged people for not publishing
their numbers they felt confident they could get it done.
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
And I have an 8000 mAh one that has a solar panel on the back, so it can slowly charge by being left in the sun. :)
I have a Prius plug-in Hybrid and a 110v inverter. :)
Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I still see a few pay phones around my area.
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Nightfox <=-
Most cable modems with VOIP have the option for a battery backup on
them - hook up a regular old corded phone in a power outage and they
work for about 8 hours.
Mro wrote to Roadhog <=-
i had one, takes forever to charge. i even put it on the roof at work
and didnt do much.
I just want an ethernet backbone running from my cable modem to my
upstairs office. My wife gets 140 mbps down next to the modem, up in my
office I get 40!
Mro wrote to Roadhog <=-
i had one, takes forever to charge. i even put it on the roof at work and didnt do much.
I found solar charging useful when spending long hours outdoors. It's slow, but gets there... eventually.
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Visit or walk down to a phone booth and use the payphone. :)
I wonder how the phone company would respond if I asked them to install
a pay-phone in my house....??????
Mro wrote to Vk3jed <=-
you should get a hand crank charger. it would probably generate more juice. ---
Denn wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
I just want an ethernet backbone running from my cable modem to my
upstairs office. My wife gets 140 mbps down next to the modem, up in my
office I get 40!
I assume you're on a WiFi connection?
Some of my callers made lifelong friends, hooked up and/or met their significant others on the boards back then.
We had a core of close sysops and users back then, and had a couple of BBS meets, which were great events. There was a similar thing going on CB radio too, where we'd get a couple of dozen people out for an evening of foxhunting. :)
In the Detroit area circa.... (gets pen and paper) ... 1995, we had a BBS that had 20+ phone lines going into it. It was incredible. This was right before home internet access became the norm, back in the days of free AOL cds.
upstairs office. My wife gets 140 mbps down next to the modem, up in my >>office I get 40!
That hardly seems fair. :)
I just want an ethernet backbone running from my cable modem to my >>>upstairs office. My wife gets 140 mbps down next to the modem, up in my >>>office I get 40!
I assume you're on a WiFi connection?
I liked it better when they sent all the free floppies, I just drilled holes in the upper corner and had free 1.44 floppies to reformat and use, the CD's were useless.
Mro wrote to Vk3jed <=-
you should get a hand crank charger. it would probably generate more juice. ---
If you have the time to crank it, while solar will do its thing without intervention.
Leregard wrote to Vk3jed <=-
In the Detroit area circa.... (gets pen and paper) ... 1995, we had a
BBS that had 20+ phone lines going into it. It was incredible. This
was right before home internet access became the norm, back in the days
of free AOL cds.
They had all these lines, and a chatroom... and because it was dialup, EVERYONE there was in your area code. You could meet them face to face
in less than a 20 minute drive. We met at a coffee shop on Sundays,
LOTS of us. It was incredible.
Mro wrote to Vk3jed <=-
a hand crank generates more power. i've had several of those solar
banks. not impressed.
Roadhog wrote to Leregard <=-
I liked it better when they sent all the free floppies, I just drilled holes in the upper corner and had free 1.44 floppies to reformat and
use, the CD's were useless.
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
True, but I'm old school. I remember being excited about a 1.5 mbps DSL line, so I try to temper my impatience with that.
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Denn <=-
No, I'm using powerline ethernet adapters to extend my ethernet over
the house power. They work for the most part, although it all depends
on how your house is wired. The BBS is on the same floor at the cable modem and gets 80 mbps. My office is on another floor and on a
different circuit and gets 20.
Roadhog wrote to Leregard <=-
I liked it better when they sent all the free floppies, I just drilled holes in the upper corner and had free 1.44 floppies to reformat and use, the CD's were useless.
Yeah, AOL even tried to expand into Australia. I probably have a couple of their floppies, repurposed, in a box somewhere around here. ;)
Mro wrote to Vk3jed <=-
this may surprise you but i was banned from aol.
i said SHIT.
so after that, i opened up a new acct and go another 10 free hours or whatever. ---
Mro wrote to Vk3jed <=-
this may surprise you but i was banned from aol.
i said SHIT.
That's a bit anal retentive of them. :D
Mro wrote to Vk3jed <=-
really. all i said was shit.
so after that, i opened up a new acct and go another 10 free hours or whatever.
Mro wrote to Vk3jed <=-
really. all i said was shit.
Exactly, big deal, they were a bit oversensitive.
I may not remember this right, but I think sometimes the numbers on the CD began with a "10" and sometimes an "11", and the ones with "11" could be reu over and over again for some reason. So it was highly coveted to have a few those. And then they had simple dos programs that could fake credit card numbers. They weren't real, but they used the right algorithm or whatever s AOL was fooled. It took them maybe a WEEK to eventually notice, and ban you Then you did it again with exactly the same serial number.
AOL had warez channels back in the day.
Mro wrote to Vk3jed <=-
well they had underage people sometimes as the 'guides'. these were regular members that had extra time provided to them for policing
everyone else.
one time a guide went into a urologist room and started banning the doctors for saying the penis and urine and prostate.
MATTHEW MUNSON wrote to DUMAS WALKER <=-
I miss the days of dialup, but the home my father bought gave up their copper line where I cant do dialup anymore.
VK3JED wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-
Yes, there was something special about the dialup days. Sure, we have some awesome technology at our disposal today, but there's a vibe that seems largely missing. A bit of it has come back on the revived BBS networks, but sadly, the users, who contributed a lot as well are
mostly gone now. :(
DUMAS WALKER wrote to MATTHEW MUNSON <=-
It is odd, in a way... I bought a house a few years back that was built
in 1968. It does not appear that it was originally wired for phone service... all of the phone jacks (2) were installed by drilling holes
in the floor and running the lines through the basement to a
post-market jack that is attached to the baseboard.
I added a third jack for my modem. :)
In 1997, when I bought my first house, I'd have thought it weird if it
was not wired, as built or post-market, for a phoneline.
So basically, over < 50 years time, we've gone from houses being built where having a phoneline was not considered a necessity to a time where that is again true. :)
NIGHTFOX wrote to DUMAS WALKER <=-
The telephone was invented long before 1968. I would have thought
phone jacks would have been fairly standard at the time. And back
then, when there were no cell phones or internet, I would have thought most people would have had telephones.. I'd think it would have been common to call people on the phone back then? Or was even local phone service too expensive?
NIGHTFOX wrote to JAGOSSEL <=-
I guess landline phones are on their way out as cell phones are the norm now-a-days.
Land lines always had the advantage that even if the power went out, they'd still work, so you could call emergency lines (such as 911) if
you had to, etc.. If your cell phone battery dies and the power is
out, then you might be out of luck if you can't find a working phone.
VK3JED wrote to NIGHTFOX <=-
If your parents wanted to talk to a friend, or your school, etc., what
did they do? Send a letter, or drive over there?
Visit or walk down to a phone booth and use the payphone. :)
VK3JED wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-
We had a core of close sysops and users back then, and had a couple of
BBS meets, which were great events. There was a similar thing going on
CB radio too, where we'd get a couple of dozen people out for an
evening of foxhunting. :)
GANDOLF wrote to VK3JED <=-
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Visit or walk down to a phone booth and use the payphone. :)
I wonder how the phone company would respond if I asked them to install
a pay-phone in my house....??????
POINDEXTER FORTRAN wrote to VK3JED <=-
I remember reading an April Fools' day article in one of my telco magazines about the phone companies running out of the "imaginary" 555-XXXX numbers used in movies and television in the States. They were coming up with a plan to backhaul a "new" batch of imaginary numbers,
as soon as they could get a tariff established for charging for non-existent services. Since they charged people for not publishing
their numbers they felt confident they could get it done.
VK3JED wrote to MRO <=-
i had one, takes forever to charge. i even put it on the roof at work
and didnt do much.
I found solar charging useful when spending long hours outdoors. It's slow, but gets there... eventually.
ED VANCE wrote to GANDOLF <=-
One time I tried reducing my telephone bill by asking the Telephone Company to change my service to a Limited Call account.
Anyone could call Me as often as they wanted.
I could make a certain number of Outgoing Calls each Month and if I exceeded the Limit I would see a charge on My next Telephone Bill for
each call over the limit. (A few pennies for each extra call)
I tried the Limited Service plan for a few Months and changed back to Regular Telephone service.
ROADHOG wrote to LEREGARD <=-
before home internet access became the norm, back in the days of free AOL cds.
I liked it better when they sent all the free floppies, I just drilled holes in the upper corner and had free 1.44 floppies to reformat and
use, the CD's were useless.
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VK3JED wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-
True, but I'm old school. I remember being excited about a 1.5 mbps DSL line, so I try to temper my impatience with that.
I remember being excited when I got my first 14.4k modem! :D
LOL - very true! I remember a short time when it was 'normal' to consider Cat 5 wiring in a new home. Now that everything is WiFi that's not even nessasary. :-D
VERY true, but I'll admit we don't have a landline any more... Well
we have the line, but I don't have a phone plugged in. Local TELCO
that up until LAST WEEK would not sell me DSL without a phone number
being sold as well. Now they are changing that and I'm finally getting
rid of the phone number as well! Also upping my download and upload
speed at home AND saving about $25 a month!
JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-
Agreed. I think HAM radio is that way, as well, though I wasn't around
in it until last year. Now with all the digital this and digital
that... :-) I can see why some people get disenchanted with it today.
I still think of Geocaching that way. In the old days you had to look
up the cache page, then 'punch in' the coordinates in the handhelp
GPSr and then go find it! No smart phones - and if you did want to
upload to the GPSr you had to either have one of the expensive units
or do like me and build your own cable. :-) That was cool.
Of course IRQ's were cool, too, but I don't know that I want to go
back to that either. LOL
I do wish we had had HAM license back when we were group hunting
geocaches with friends! Had we all had them we could have had a
good ole' time. :-) Especially when we went camping where there
was no cell service...
JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-
Visit or walk down to a phone booth and use the payphone. :)
THIS! And wasn't it absurb when a call went from a dime to a
QUARTER! Oh Em Gee ! :-)
JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-
And yeah it was analogous to CB's. Is it any wonder that your alias on
a BBS is called your "handle?" :-)
JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-
I found solar charging useful when spending long hours outdoors. It's slow, but gets there... eventually.
And it's free and if it's out there anyway, why not? :-)
I may have to look into one of those...
JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-
I remember being excited when I got my first 14.4k modem! :D
Same here - upgraded from a 2400. :-)
JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to MATTHEW MUNSON <=-
I miss the days of dialup, but the home my father bought gave up their copper line where I cant do dialup anymore.
I miss it too, sometimes, in a nostalgic way of course.
I also enjoy having the Internet at my fingertips (literraly)
on my smart phone. I wouldn't want to give that up just to
have dialup back, but it was cool. :-)
JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to DUMAS WALKER <=-
LOL - very true! I remember a short time when it was 'normal' to
consider Cat 5 wiring in a new home. Now that everything is WiFi that's not even nessasary. :-D
JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to NIGHTFOX <=-
Land lines always had the advantage that even if the power went out, they'd still work, so you could call emergency lines (such as 911) if
you had to, etc.. If your cell phone battery dies and the power is
out, then you might be out of luck if you can't find a working phone.
VERY true, but I'll admit we don't have a landline any more... Well
we have the line, but I don't have a phone plugged in. Local TELCO
that up until LAST WEEK would not sell me DSL without a phone number
being sold as well. Now they are changing that and I'm finally getting
rid of the phone number as well! Also upping my download and upload
speed at home AND saving about $25 a month!
Nightfox wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
I've never seen a house that was fully wired with cat5 networking. It always seemed to me that people added it afterward. I've been looking
at houses recently and I saw one that had cat5 ethernet ports in 2
rooms, and it had a smart thermostat, which I thought was cool.
Obviously the people who lived there before were into tech stuff. But that seems to be the exception. And these days I'm not sure I'd feel
like wiring a house for ethernet if wifi works well enough. There are also powerline ethernet adapters (devices with an ethernet port that
plug into power outlets that you can use to connect computers in 2
parts of your house). Powerline ethernet isn't always totally reliable though, and speed can vary.
JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to DUMAS WALKER <=-
LOL - very true! I remember a short time when it was 'normal' to consider Cat 5 wiring in a new home. Now that everything is WiFi that's not even nessasary. :-D
I still consider cabling a necessity. I only use wifi for portable/mobile devices. The desktops, BBSs, etc are all on Cat 5/6
always seemed to me that people added it afterward. I've been looking at houses recently and I saw one that had cat5 ethernet ports in 2 rooms, and it had a smart thermostat, which I thought was cool.
I have seen houses pre-cabled, most often built by forward thinking tech geeks. :)
Interesting.. When I moved into my current house, I dropped Comcast in favor of Fronter (formerly Verizon) fios internet, and it looks like part of my account number is a phone number, even though we don't have phone service with them. I wonder if they actually use up a phone number even if a customer doesn't hae phone service..
MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
yeah i want the speed so i go with ethernet. even streaming videos in
the living room off the home media server is faster with ethernet.
MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
yeah but then the cable is obsolete because they make something faster.
spacesst wrote to Nightfox <=-
it's Name Dry-loop
VK3JED wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
Of course IRQ's were cool, too, but I don't know that I want to go
back to that either. LOL
I was good at assinging IRQs. ;)
I do wish we had had HAM license back when we were group hunting
geocaches with friends! Had we all had them we could have had a
good ole' time. :-) Especially when we went camping where there
was no cell service...
Last time I took the radio outback, I was running email over WinLink on HF, with no nearby Internet. :)
VK3JED wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
Visit or walk down to a phone booth and use the payphone. :)
THIS! And wasn't it absurb when a call went from a dime to a
QUARTER! Oh Em Gee ! :-)
LOL, we don't have those here. :D
VK3JED wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
I couldn't get DSL here without a phone number either, so there was a (mostly) unused landline. That ended a few months ago, when I upgraded
to VDSL. No more landline, which isn't a big issue. All it did was attract telemarketers.
VK3JED wrote to NIGHTFOX <=-
Ethernet is still better than both wifi and powerline, especially if
you use a decent switch in the heart of the network. Wifi is a shared medium, so it's best left for mobile/portable devices, where Ethernet would be annoying or impossible. Powerline adapters don't always work
as advertised. As an example, I used to run a powerline link to the
back of the house, but was only getting around 3Mbps (out of 85). If
the two ends are on different circuits, it's not so good. For my
fixed systems, give me good Ethernet anyday. :)
VK3JED wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
I couldn't get DSL here without a phone number either, so there was a (mostly) unused landline. That ended a few months ago, when I upgraded to VDSL. No more landline, which isn't a big issue. All it did was attract telemarketers.
I assume we're getting calls every day to it from telemarkers, but with
no phone plugged in we never hear a ring!
Ethernet is still better than both wifi and powerline, especially if you use a decent switch in the heart of the network. Wifi is a shared medium, so it's best left for mobile/portable devices, where Ethernet would be annoying or impossible. Powerline adapters don't always work as advertised. As an example, I used to run a powerline link to the back of the house, but was only getting around 3Mbps (out of 85). If the two ends are on different circuits, it's not so good. For my fixed systems, give me good Ethernet anyday. :)
Better, yes, but with a laptop and an iPad as my primary connectivity devices at home? No thanks! LOL The iPad doesn't have Ethernet and my MacBook Air only has it if I plug in a USB to Ethernet adapter.
I also use Apple TV. It has an ethernet port, but wireless works just
fine.
JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-
Of course IRQ's were cool, too, but I don't know that I want to go
back to that either. LOL
I was good at assinging IRQs. ;)
Me too, but I don't want to go back to that. LOL
I do wish we had had HAM license back when we were group hunting
geocaches with friends! Had we all had them we could have had a
good ole' time. :-) Especially when we went camping where there
was no cell service...
Last time I took the radio outback, I was running email over WinLink on HF, with no nearby Internet. :)
Cool. :-)
Speaking of which - I have a friend wanting a welfare check to PR -
local HAMS have been no help - ARRL website gives me the form, but not
the contact info...
JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-
THIS! And wasn't it absurb when a call went from a dime to a
QUARTER! Oh Em Gee ! :-)
LOL, we don't have those here. :D
Well we don't either - not anymore!
JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-
I assume we're getting calls every day to it from telemarkers, but with
no phone plugged in we never hear a ring!
JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-
Better, yes, but with a laptop and an iPad as my primary connectivity devices at home? No thanks! LOL The iPad doesn't have Ethernet and my MacBook Air only has it if I plug in a USB to Ethernet adapter.
I also use Apple TV. It has an ethernet port, but wireless works just fine.
VK3JED wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
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JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-
I was good at assinging IRQs. ;)
Me too, but I don't want to go back to that. LOL
Hahaha, did you ever have to do it with a knife, wire and soldering
iron? ;)
Speaking of which - I have a friend wanting a welfare check to PR -
local HAMS have been no help - ARRL website gives me the form, but not
the contact info...
Hmm, yeah I'm not sure of the contacts for that. I don't have many
direct contacts for the health and welfare side of things.
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JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-
THIS! And wasn't it absurb when a call went from a dime to a
QUARTER! Oh Em Gee ! :-)
LOL, we don't have those here. :D
Well we don't either - not anymore!
We have 5c, 10c, 20c, 50c, $1 and $2 coins. :)
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JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-
I assume we're getting calls every day to it from telemarkers, but with
no phone plugged in we never hear a ring!
I left an answering machine on it. Was tempted to put up a modem, but never got around to it. :)
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JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-
I also use Apple TV. It has an ethernet port, but wireless works just fine.
That I'd be more inclined to put on a fixed connection. :)
We have coins, just no pay phones for them. :-)
Re: Re: New modem.
By: JIMMY ANDERSON to VK3JED on Wed Oct 11 2017 01:20 am
We have coins, just no pay phones for them. :-)
I've seen a few pay phones around my area lately..
JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-
Hahaha, did you ever have to do it with a knife, wire and soldering
iron? ;)
no - :-) just jumpers
That has been resolved, thankfully. Darly put me in touch with someone
in Texas, but by then the person had received a phone call from their loved one - all is well.
It is something to keep in mind though, for the future... It's also
fall here, so potentially stormy weather. Maybe some chasing in our
near future. :-)
JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-
Well we don't either - not anymore!
We have 5c, 10c, 20c, 50c, $1 and $2 coins. :)
We have coins, just no pay phones for them. :-)
No pinball machines locally either. :-(
JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-
I was tempted to setup a machine running DOS and put in a modem - 10 minutes later I was on to something else and never thought about it
again. :-)
I did spend almost an hour setting up DOS in Parallels on my Mac so I could run OLX - boy that was a wasted effort! LOL
JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-
That I'd be more inclined to put on a fixed connection. :)
So far it's been no problem for it or the xBox One right beside it
to remain wireless. :-)
But the option is there... ;-)
I've had to go the whole hog, when I could only get boards with only IRQ4
or 3 selectable, both of which were already used by COM1 and COM2. On the PC specs, COM3 and COM4 used the same IRQs ad COM1 and COM2. Obviously,
the designers assumed no more than 2 COM ports would be used at the same time. That assumption falls down when one has multiple modems connected,
or a mouse, dialup modem, packet modem and some other serial gadget all working at the same time. :)
VK3JED wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
It is something to keep in mind though, for the future... It's also
fall here, so potentially stormy weather. Maybe some chasing in our
near future. :-)
Spring here, weather is all over the place as usual, but the first real burst of heat coming next week. :)
VK3JED wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
No pinball machines locally either. :-(
Probably some around here. I still bump into them occasionally.
VK3JED wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
I did spend almost an hour setting up DOS in Parallels on my Mac so I could run OLX - boy that was a wasted effort! LOL
LOL, why not use Multimail? ;)
JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-
VK3JED wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
I did spend almost an hour setting up DOS in Parallels on my Mac so I could run OLX - boy that was a wasted effort! LOL
LOL, why not use Multimail? ;)
That's exactly what I did - had to load Parallels to run it in
Windoze, until my sysop pointed me to a MAC native build. Only
had to learn a few commands for the text editor. :-)
... It it ain't broke, let me have a shot at it.
--- MultiMail/Darwin v0.49
JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-
Had to turn on the heater for the first time this morning, just to
lose the chill in the air as my wife and I dressed for work.
JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-
Careful - they'll TILT. :-)
JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-
LOL, why not use Multimail? ;)
That's exactly what I did - had to load Parallels to run it in
Windoze, until my sysop pointed me to a MAC native build. Only
had to learn a few commands for the text editor. :-)
Re: Re: New modem.
By: JIMMY ANDERSON to DUMAS WALKER on Mon Sep 18 2017 02:28 am
LOL - very true! I remember a short time when it was 'normal' to consider Cat 5 wiring in a new home. Now that everything is WiFi that's not even nessasary. :-D
I've never seen a house that was fully wired with cat5 networking. It always seemed to me that people added it afterward.
Digital Man wrote to Nightfox <=-
My last two houses (both built after 2003) were fully cat5 wired.
Whether you use that wiring for phones or Ethernet or whatever, is up
to you. The second house came with RJ-45 jacks in most rooms. The first did not, but it was easy to add them. And then there's the matter of adding a switch to the wiring closet and finding any bad cables or
ports, but it's worth the effort.
Most definitely. Nothing like moving into a new house or office and finding it's already cabled. :)
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I'm tempted to cut the cable cord; there are powerline-type adapter
that run over cable, I bet you could do a pretty decent "home backbone" over cable.
I've never seen a house that was fully wired with cat5 networking. It
always seemed to me that people added it afterward.
My last two houses (both built after 2003) were fully cat5 wired. Whether you use that wiring for phones or Ethernet or whatever, is up to you. The second house came with RJ-45 jacks in most rooms. The first did not, but it was easy to add them. And then there's the matter of adding a switch to the wiring closet and finding any bad cables or ports, but it's worth the effort.
I'm tempted to cut the cable cord; there are powerline-type adapter
that run over cable, I bet you could do a pretty decent "home
backbone" over cable. [0m
I'm not quite sure what you mean, I'm getting contradictory interpretations of what you said here. :/
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I was thinking about getting rid of cable TV and using the cable with
MOCA adapters to extend my network using the old cable TV cabling.
MOCA is like powerline Ethernet for coax cable.
I was thinking about getting rid of cable TV and using the cable with MOCA adapters to extend my network using the old cable TV cabling.
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