When I have guests in my home I don't give them a list of rules when
they walk in the door. I just expect them to behave like humans, if they T>don't they are not invited back.

The thing is, you are catering to "the lowest common denominator" with
many people. The newspaper is wriitten at a LOW elementary school level.
Just look in the newspaper or on Facebook, and look at the "stupidity"
that abounds.

With having it "in writing" (even if in a bulletin), they see it
there, and can't say "they weren't warned on how to act". Common sense
has gone the way of the dinosaur in so many areas...and without rules,
there's anarchy. And, I have the statement that "Your continued use of
the BBS is your AGREEMENT with everything that is in the BBS Disclaimer
(which is REQUIRED READING for all users)...whether you read it or not".

I also REQUIRE New User Feedback, telling where they heard about the
BBS, and what they're looking for in it...plus, they have to
successfully complete the Telnet Email Verifier within 48 hours, or
their account is DELETED WITHOUT COMMENT. I figure if they don't
complete the process, they're not really interested in being a user on
the BBS.

However, I have picked up several users via amateur radio, and have
several amateur radio file areas and doors on the BBS that are
EXCLUSIVELY for them...they have to provide proof of a valid amateur
radio license before access is granted.

That's the reason I can't call your BBS, you have un reasonable rules you
force on GUESTS IN YOUR HOME. (Shouting like you)

Well, that's your choice. I am NOT forcing you or anyone else to logon
to my BBS...and I logon to other BBS's, or have them in my "selected
telnet BBS's" screen because I WANT to...NOT because I HAVE to...and
prefer users who logon to my BBS because they WANT to...and NOT because
they HAVE to. I know several are driven away from the BBS by how I run
it...but there are plenty of other BBS's around that may be more to
their liking. While ALL CAPS is considered SHOUTING, I'm doing it for
EMPHASIS.

The same thing applied to the U.S. Amateur Radio Hobby. After the
Federal Communications Commission DROPPED the Morse Code requirement for
a ham radio license over 10 years ago...now, people are learning the
Morse Code because they WANT to...NOT because they HAVE to. The same
also applies to ham radio traffic nets, clubs, etc. If one doesn't like
a certain traffic net format, club, etc., there are plenty of others
that may be more to ones liking.

Basically, I would rather have a SMALL group of QUALITY users who are
going to play by the rules I've laid down, than a LARGE group of
quantity users who choose not to do likewise. Every Sysop runs their BBS
the way they want it, and I run my BBS the way I want it.

The same applies to when I do amateur radio traffic nets. I certainly
am not going to lose any sleep if I don't get a large number of checkins
(I'll just shut the net down early), and I don't lose any sleep if I'm
the only logon on my BBS for a week...let alone that I don't have a
large number of users. At one time, I automatically purged users who had
not logged on at least once every 3 months...and I knew one Sysop who
purged users who didn't logon at least once a week.

I also purge messages every 30 days, because after that, to me they
are no longer timely. And, the BBS is OFFLINE whenever there's a threat
of thunderstorms. I am a 2 time lightning strike survivor, and know that
no amount of surge protection will protect you from a direct or even a
nearby lightning strike. I know that no one is going to pay me a large
sum of money to keep the system online during thunderstorms.

Besides, with a large number of "users", you have no idea if a
particular user is still alive or not...and ALL of us have a meeting
with "The Grim Reaper" one day. I have kept one slot in place for my
late wife, even though she has been gone for over 10 years, as a
memorial to her. We met through a BBS at the local college...and she was Co-Sysop before we married, and during our marriage until the day she
died of a massive heart attack. So, I run the BBS in memory of my late
wife (as each of us had promised to do, in case the other one died
first), plus it's one of the few hobbies that I can still do, because of

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declining health. And, none of us is getting any younger.

Could you post a screen shot of the list of rules and regulations you hand
out to people who are actually GUESTS IN YOUR HOME for me to see?

I rarely have company come by...either fellow residents or ham radio operators...and it's not because of "these rules". I have plenty to do
with the BBS and ham radio traffic nets to keep me busy.

But, since you must know, here are "my rules":

1) No smoking due to electronic equipment. Kissing a smoker is like
licking an ash tray. Chewing tobacco is just as nasty...and both cause cancer...never mind the cigarette/cigar smoking making your clothes reek
of the stench...which makes me ill.

2) No alcoholic beverages -- I don't want or need drunkards in here. I
lost a close friend in college to a drunk driver...these are the ones
causing "whiskey orphans" nowadays.

3) No taking of The Lord's Name in vain. Besides, intelligent people
don't need to curse to express themselves...because they have enough of
a command of the English Language, where they don't have to use
profanity. My late wife was such a person.

4) No admittance, except for:

A) Management/Staff, especially for monthly inspections.
B) Those doing cleaning, or spraying for insects.
C) Emergency Medical or Law Enforcement Personnel.
D) Family or Friends, via prior arrangement (to be sure I'm here).

If I don't know or "trust" them, I don't let them in. There are too
many "low lifes" out here, who are nosey and sticky fingered (which is
why I obtained a Post Office Box)...looking to steal stuff for alcoholic beverages, tobacco, or illicit drugs. They have found instances of meth
labs out here in the past; and one night, there was a stabbing. When you
hear a police officer outside the bedroom window saying "This one is not breathing", that's not good. But, there's hardly "a safe place" anymore.

I had an alarm system installed the day my late wife died, and feel
better with it. To me, if you let a total, unknown stranger into your
home in this day and age...whether for the BBS or otherwise, you have a
death wish.

I am also part time caregiver for my Mom, who turns 91 this fall, and
she does NOT go out, unless I'm doing the driving...which is the case
for doctors appointments, etc. I usually take her out on errands once a week...plus, I do all of her grocery shopping.

I have plenty to do with the BBS, ham radio, and square dancing, plus
a few websites, to keep me busy. So, during these times, I'm content to
be alone, without company. While I'm busier than I was when I was
married, some days, admittedly it gets awfully lonely.

Also, while I have a fondness for dachshunds, I re-homed the one I had
the day my wife died. And, with the surgeries, hospitalizations, and
emergency room trips this year, I can't afford the extra expense of a
pet. Plus, you have to agree to the pet policy at the apartment complex
(they must have their shots current, be spayed or neutered, and either
only a small animal, or a certified service animal), and pay a yearly
pet fee.

The only way you can live here is being either elderly or disabled.
Your rent is based on 30% of your income, and you must go through an
annual rent recertification, or you face eviction...as you would for
failing an inspection. From what I understand, compared to some of the
other apartments out here, "my apartment is immaculate".

Daryl

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Re: Flame wars 2/2
By: Daryl Stout to TINY on Sat Jul 29 2017 08:40 am

But, since you must know, here are "my rules":

1) No smoking due to electronic equipment. Kissing a smoker is like
licking an ash tray.

you are going to make out with all your house visitors?

Chewing tobacco is just as nasty...and both cause
cancer...never mind the cigarette/cigar smoking making your clothes reek
of the stench...which makes me ill.

chewing tobacco can get you high if you get the right type.
also i know people who smoke a lot and dont smell like smoke. they always smoke outside.

2) No alcoholic beverages -- I don't want or need drunkards in here. I
lost a close friend in college to a drunk driver...these are the ones causing "whiskey orphans" nowadays.

i drink every week but i dont get drunk.

3) No taking of The Lord's Name in vain. Besides, intelligent people

jesus christ!
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Re: Flame wars 2/2
By: Mro to Daryl Stout on Sat Jul 29 2017 08:18 pm

also i know people who smoke a lot and dont smell like smoke. they always smoke outside.

The smell seems to follow you though. I know people who smoke outside, but I can always smell it on them after they come back in.

Nightfox

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Re: Smoking
By: Nightfox to Mro on Sat Jul 29 2017 07:09 pm

Re: Flame wars 2/2
By: Mro to Daryl Stout on Sat Jul 29 2017 08:18 pm

also i know people who smoke a lot and dont smell like smoke. they always smoke outside.

The smell seems to follow you though. I know people who smoke outside, but I can always smell it on them after they come back in.

maybe they are standing in the wrong direction. also some people smoke inside too
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you are going to make out with all your house visitors?

Don't be stupid. I used that expression to show how gross it is.

chewing tobacco can get you high if you get the right type.
also i know people who smoke a lot and dont smell like smoke. they always smo M>outside.

I used to participate in a bowling league, where "the smoke in there
was so thick, you thought you were getting cancer of the eyeballs". I
start coughing and gagging violently if I'm in or near a smoke filled
room, or with people whose clothing smells of it. On one trip to a BBS gathering in Louisiana, the hotel put me in a smoking room overnight,
instead of a NON-SMOKING room like I had requested. I thought I was
going to have to call 911, as I was having trouble breathing.

i drink every week but i dont get drunk.

Everyone's system is different...but I have more holsum things to
spend my money on, than vices of tobacco or alcohol.

3) No taking of The Lord's Name in vain. Besides, intelligent people

jesus christ!

You will answer for that on Judgment Day.

Daryl

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also i know people who smoke a lot and dont smell like smoke. they alway smoke outside.

The smell seems to follow you though. I know people who smoke outside, but I N>can always smell it on them after they come back in.

You are correct on that. And, if ones sense of smell is seemingly
acute as a dog's (they can smell one part of urine in 60 million parts
of water), it's even more pronounced.

Daryl

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Re: Flame wars 2/2
By: Daryl Stout to MRO on Sun Jul 30 2017 09:36 am

i drink every week but i dont get drunk.

Everyone's system is different...but I have more holsum things to
spend my money on, than vices of tobacco or alcohol.

i dont consider drinking once a week a vice.

You will answer for that on Judgment Day.

i will see YOU in hell!
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Re: Flame wars 2/2
By: Daryl Stout to MRO on Sun Jul 30 2017 09:36:00

I used to participate in a bowling league, where "the smoke in there
was so thick, you thought you were getting cancer of the eyeballs". I start coughing and gagging violently if I'm in or near a smoke filled room, or with people whose clothing smells of it. On one trip to a BBS gathering in Louisiana, the hotel put me in a smoking room overnight, instead of a NON-SMOKING room like I had requested. I thought I was
going to have to call 911, as I was having trouble breathing.

I cannot stand the smell of stale smoke, or really smoke at all.. kinda weird considering I still *do* smoke.

I actually laid it down for a couple months then picked back up on it when I went back to driving 12 hours a day.. It's still one addiction I have'nt been able to kick.. and I really don't know why because I despise it.

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Re: Flame wars 2/2
By: Mro to Daryl Stout on Sun Jul 30 2017 15:05:29

Everyone's system is different...but I have more holsum things to
spend my money on, than vices of tobacco or alcohol.

i dont consider drinking once a week a vice.

I cannot drink, but I agree fully, (1) if you can afford what you are drinking and (2) do not get drunk, how can it be a vice.. for most of modern mans history their drink came in form of alcohol. so it truly is a staple, its up there with bread..

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Re: Flame wars 2/2
By: KK4QBN to Mro on Sun Jul 30 2017 06:04 pm

Everyone's system is different...but I have more holsum things to
spend my money on, than vices of tobacco or alcohol.

i dont consider drinking once a week a vice.

I cannot drink, but I agree fully, (1) if you can afford what you are drinking and (2) do not get drunk, how can it be a vice.. for most of modern mans history their drink came in form of alcohol. so it truly is a staple, its up there with bread..

yep, back in the old days ale and whatever was the only safe thing to drink.

last weekend we were out on a company picnic with my gf's company and her coworker's boyfriend was an alcoholic. he was putting many free beers down but he didnt get affected at all. he must have an expensive habit.

he also proposed to her in a bar which she found very tacky. he is a great guy and better than her ex husband who lived off of her and gave her STDS and was packing heat.

my gf's coworkers make US look normal.
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You will answer for that on Judgment Day.

i will see YOU in hell!

No, you will NOT...for 2 reasons.

1) I accepted God's Free Love Gift in the Person of His Son, Jesus
Christ, nearly 30 years ago...because someone told me that I was a lost
sinner, on my way to Hell.

The Holy Spirit broke my heart, I saw the Truth, then prayed, and
asked The Lord Jesus Christ to save my soul, and cleanse me of all my
sins, by His Precious Shed Blood on the Old Rugged Cross of Calvary. I
also believe, and accept by faith that "He rose from the dead on the
Third Day, according to The Scriptures", and that He is coming back to
rule and reign on the Earth...and all of His Enemies will be destroyed,
and cast into The Lake Of Fire, with Satan and his demonic hordes, to be tormented forever.

God's Standard is PERFECTION...and I can NEVER meet that standard.
Besides, I have seen numerous instances of God and His Son Jesus Christ
working in my life over the last 29 years, that it trumps the claims of
those who refuse to believe He exists, or remarks of those who use His
Name as "a swear word"...thinking it's "a joke"...and that "God will let
them into Heaven regardless of their life". That's a lie out of the
Pit Of Hell...to go with the other lies from The Devil (Satan), which
are that he has people believing that he himself doesn't exist...and
that "there is no God, Judgment, Heaven, or Hell".

2) Speaking of Hell, sulphur has a thick, dark flame, and has the smell
of rotten eggs. Hell is far hotter than the combination of a molten
volcano, and the heat of a lightning bolt...which in itself, is 5 times
hotter than the surface of the sun.

Jesus Christ is the MOST IMPORTANT PERSON that you, and anyone else
who has ever lived, will meet. What you do with Him will determine
whether you go to Heaven, or to Hell...so the choice is yours, on
whether to accept His Free Love Gift, or to reject it.

For if the believers ON Jesus Christ (and not just IN Him) are WRONG,
we won't lose much when we die...except for a few petty sins, that don't
make one happy, anyway. I am still a SINNER, in this mortal corruptible flesh...but I'm a SINNER SAVED BY THE GRACE of God.

And, you have to admit that one day, we WILL know WHO IS RIGHT.

Everyone gets at least one chance to hear The Gospel. Yet, the
majority of people on Earth do NOT want to hear the word REPENT (to
change their mind about sin, and accept God's Free Love Gift). True
believers ON The Lord Jesus Christ are COMMANDED by Him to witness to
those who do NOT know Him as Lord and Saviour. What their decision is concerning the Gospel, is THEIR INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY. If the
Christians didn't care about the eternity of others, we'd keep our
mouths shut.

I guarantee you that those who are NOW in the torments of Hell,
are screaming with being tormented by demons...plus they are cursing
God, because "all hope is gone"...and they *WISH* they could hear that
word one more time. But, His Offer of Grace and Salvation EXPIRES when
you die...and there is no second chance after death.

All I can do is pray that those who consider "The Preaching Of The
Cross" as "offensive, foolishness, and stupid" will REPENT before it's
too late. Those who "wish the Bible Thumping Jesus Freaks would just
vanish from the Earth" will sooner more than later get their wish...in
The Rapture Of The Church, which is closer by the second.

It is obvious to me that you want no more discussion on this...in
short, "your blood is off my hands".

If you want no more posts from me, just put my name into the user.can
file (or whatever your user trash can file is) -- you will never see a
post to or from me again. But, bear in mind, that others can do likewise
to you or to anyone else...whether they are using a real name, or an
alias.

Daryl


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Re: Flame wars 1/2
By: Daryl Stout to MRO on Sun Jul 30 2017 05:56 pm

2) Speaking of Hell, sulphur has a thick, dark flame, and has the smell
of rotten eggs. Hell is far hotter than the combination of a molten
volcano, and the heat of a lightning bolt...which in itself, is 5 times

according to the bible hell is colder than heaven.

Jesus Christ is the MOST IMPORTANT PERSON that you, and anyone else
who has ever lived, will meet. What you do with Him will determine

he was probably an alien.

I guarantee you that those who are NOW in the torments of Hell,
are screaming with being tormented by demons...plus they are cursing
God, because "all hope is gone"...and they *WISH* they could hear that
word one more time. But, His Offer of Grace and Salvation EXPIRES when

if good was a real good person he would take them into heaven.

All I can do is pray that those who consider "The Preaching Of The
Cross" as "offensive, foolishness, and stupid" will REPENT before it's
too late. Those who "wish the Bible Thumping Jesus Freaks would just
vanish from the Earth" will sooner more than later get their wish...in

the more i hear people say 'i'm going to heaven and you arent' the more i am happy to not be included with that group of people.

infact, i wouldnt be surprised if there's a spot in hell reserved for people like that.

too late. Those who "wish the Bible Thumping Jesus Freaks would just
vanish from the Earth" will sooner more than later get their wish...in

there is no such thing as people vanishing from the earth.
why would they need to? they could just die and go to heaven that way.

If you want no more posts from me, just put my name into the user.can
file (or whatever your user trash can file is)

i'm not the kind of person who disagrees with someone so much that if they have opposing views they have to be entirely removed from my sight. i'm happy to co-exist with people with different views. i dont have the false belief that something that i dont agree with needs to be removed from the internet (or in your views, those people should burn in hell)

-- you will never see a
post to or from me again. But, bear in mind, that others can do likewise
to you or to anyone else...whether they are using a real name, or an
alias.

thanks for the tips, i just started running synchronet last week and i know nothing about it.

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KK4QBN wrote to Daryl Stout <=-

I actually laid it down for a couple months then picked back up on it
when I went back to driving 12 hours a day.. It's still one addiction I have'nt been able to kick.. and I really don't know why because I
despise it.

Hmm, that is odd. In that state of mind, it was easy for me to quit and never return. :) Now my habits are of a more sporting nature. ;)


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KK4QBN wrote to Mro <=-

i dont consider drinking once a week a vice.

I cannot drink, but I agree fully, (1) if you can afford what you are drinking and (2) do not get drunk, how can it be a vice.. for most of modern mans history their drink came in form of alcohol. so it truly is
a staple, its up there with bread..

I now drink so little I might as well not drink, but yeah I agree, if one's level of drinking is not interfering with normal life or health, then there is no problem, once a week is definitely not a vice, unless it's a binge every week.


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Mro wrote to KK4QBN <=-

my gf's coworkers make US look normal.

.... we sure know you two 'aint normal so wow.

Shawn

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Re: Flame wars 2/2
By: Tiny to Mro on Mon Jul 31 2017 10:52 am

Mro wrote to KK4QBN <=-

my gf's coworkers make US look normal.

.... we sure know you two 'aint normal so wow.

i'm pretty normal compared to the other people i know. i work, sleep and eat. i dont have any skeletons and nobody will find those hookers i buried 10 years ago.
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Re: Flame wars 2/2
By: Mro to Tiny on Mon Jul 31 2017 04:21 pm

my gf's coworkers make US look normal.

.... we sure know you two 'aint normal so wow.

i'm pretty normal compared to the other people i know. i work, sleep and eat. i dont have any skeletons and nobody will find those hookers i buried 10 years ago.

I'm not crazy, I'm scary.

"... This just in, Police find body's of missing hookrs in Mro's basment."

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Quoting Mro to Tiny <=-

i'm pretty normal compared to the other people i know. i work, sleep
and eat. i dont have any skeletons and nobody will find those hookers i buried 10 years ago.

Should run for politics. That's why I have friends with pig farms, those damn hookers.

Shawn

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according to the bible hell is colder than heaven.

I don't know what translation you read, but it likely was inspired by
Satan. The Devil and his demon hordes are laughing uncontrollably at
you, for the chains you let him put on you.

Hell will eventually be cast into The Lake Of Fire...and everyone who
rejects Christ...along with Satan and his demonic hordes...will be there forever.

Jesus Christ is the MOST IMPORTANT PERSON that you, and anyone else
who has ever lived, will meet. What you do with Him will determine

he was probably an alien.

Blasphemer!! You will answer to God for that.

if good was a real good person he would take them into heaven.

WRONG!! If only ONE SIN was recorded in your life...ever...in
thought, word, or deed, you can NOT enter Heaven. Romans 3:10 says
"There is NONE RIGHTEOUS", and Romans 3:23 says "For ALL have sinned,
and come short of The Glory Of God". Isaiah 64:3 says "all our
righteousness is as filthy rags"...literally, bloody menstrual cloths.
The only hope for mankind is to accept God's Free Love Gift, and be
covered by The Blood of Jesus. Satan can NOT cross that "Blood Line".

the more i hear people say 'i'm going to heaven and you arent' the more i am M>happy to not be included with that group of people.

May God have mercy on your unrepentant soul.

infact, i wouldnt be surprised if there's a spot in hell reserved for people M>like that.

If the individual's name is NOT in The Book Of Life, they won't go to Heaven...no matter how good they think they are.

there is no such thing as people vanishing from the earth.
why would they need to? they could just die and go to heaven that way.

Because in Revelation 3:10, Jesus Christ promised the true believers
that "Because you have kept The Word Of My Patience, I will keep you
from the Tribulation that is coming upon the world to try all flesh". It
will be like the world has never seen, with the following 21 plagues:

1) The Antichrist is revealed -- literally Satan incarnate. He will at
first appear to be "the saviour of the world", but his mass genocide of
Jews and Christians will make the regimes of Hitler, Mao, and Stalin,
pale by comparison. He signs a peace treaty with Israel, but breaks it 3
1/2 years later.

2) Peace is taken completely away from the Earth. You can forget about
calling the police to protect you from thugs.

3) Famine will become global, and it will take one days wages to buy one
meal for one person...many will starve to death.

4) Death on a massive scale.

5) Mass murder of Christians.

6) Worldwide earthquake, with the sun, moon, and stars darkened, by all
the smoke, likely from fires, and nuclear war. Rulers of the world will
flee to the mountains, pleading for the mountains to fall on them.

7) Silence in Heaven for a half hour, in preparation for the next set of judgments/plagues:

8) One third of the trees, and all green grass on Earth is burned up.
That means no more crops for food...let alone grass to feed the animals.
They will become vicious, attacking and killing humans.

9) One third of the oceans is turned to blood, one third of the life in
the sea dies, and one third of the ships are destroyed.

10) One third of the fresh water supply is poisoned, and people die from

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drinking it, because it has become bitter.

11) Light from the sun, moon, and stars, is reduced by one third. Night
is longer than daylight.

12) Demonic hordes of locusts, with scorpion like stings, attack
everyone on Earth. The only ones IMMUNE will be those who have accepted
Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour (including The Two Witnesses, and
144,000 Jews -- the world will despise The Two Witnesses, but anyone
trying to kill them will die). All the pain killers in the world
(hydrocodone, oxycodone, etc.) won't even dull the pain. Those trying to
commit suicide will be unable to do so.

13) The four living beings bound at the Euphrates River are released to
kill 1/3 of the remaining population of the Earth...at least 1/4 to 1/3
of the population will have already died or been murdered. So, at this
point, nearly, or just over half of the world's population, will have
been destroyed.

14) The Kingdom Of God on Earth, is proclaimed in Heaven. The 144,000
Jews have been martyred by this time, and the Antichrist (#1 above)
kills The Two Witnesses, triggering a worldwide celebration (he
leaves their bodies in the street, and the whole world sees them).
But, they rise from the dead 3 days later, and rise up to Heaven...and a
huge earthquake hits Jerusalem, killing 7000 people instantly.

The Antichrist is assassinated, but rises from the dead in a Satanic
Counterfit of The Resurrection. He goes into the Temple in Jerusalem,
and declares himself to be God. The believing remnant of Jews (1/3) flee
to the Mountains of Israel (Petra), where God supernaturally protects
them. The remaining Jews (2/3) are murdered.

The False Prophet now requires everyone to take "The Mark Of The Beast"
if they want to buy, sell, hold a job, or get benefits. Refusal to do so results in arrest, torture, and beheading.

15) Everyone who takes The Mark Of The Beast, has literally "sold their
soul to Satan"...and is afflicted with painful, grievous, loathsome,
cancerous sores, all over their bodies...top to bottom, front to back...including their genitals and buttocks. Sleep is all but
impossible.

16) All the oceans are turned to blood, all life in the oceans dies, and
all the ships are destroyed.

17) All the water on the Earth is turned to blood, for the murder of
Christ's followers.

18) The sun goes super nova, setting people and everything on fire.
Daytime temperatures approach or exceed the boiling point of water, and
night time temperatures don't fall below 100 degrees.

19) The sun, moon, and stars, PERMANENTLY go dark.

20) The Euphrates River is dried up, allowing armies to cross to head
for the Plains of Megiddo for the Battle Of Armageddon. In reality,
these are assembled by Satan, in anticipation of The Second Coming Of
Christ. Satan is so depraved and deluded in his thinking, that he feels
that he can destroy Almighty God and The Heavenly Host...which include
Jesus Christ, God In The Flesh, and all the Christians who were raptured
7 years earlier.

21) A huge earthquake rocks the entire planet. Mountains disappear back
into the Earth, and hailstones at 100 pounds or greater, smash everyone
and everything in their path. The believing remnant of Jews, seeing the
armies of the Antichrist close in on them, experience "spiritual
regeneration", and recognize Jesus Christ as their Messiah. They call on
Him to save them from destruction, and He does. With just a Word, all of
the armies fall to the ground as one, dead...their bodies devoured by
the birds of the air (hawks, vultures, etc.).

Christ steps on to the Mount Of Olives (from where he ascended back to
Heaven over 2000 years ago), and a huge earthquake splits the mountain, creating "The Valley Of Decision". The surviving members of the last 7
years are gathered before Him. Those who helped and befriended the
Jews, and accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour, will be welcomed
into The Millenial Kingdom, a 1000 years of peace, where life on Earth
will be as it was meant to be. Those who persecuted the Jews will be

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sentenced to Eternal Fire, and cast off of the planet into outer
darkness and eternal torment.

your views, those people should burn in hell)

God's Will is that no one should die in their sins, but that all
shoudl come to repentance. But, for those who REFUSE Him (He Made The
Rules), then He has no choice but to cast them into Hell, and eventually
to The Lake Of Fire.

You obviously have been blinded by Satan, the god of this world (which
is the way he wants it), so that trying to witness to you is like
throwing pearls before swine.

I have turned you over to The Lord, to let Him deal with you. I will
NOT respond to any more of your messages, until you are convicted by The
Holy Spirit, as to what I've posted is true. But, I warn you that you
can only say NO to God so many times. After that, since He is the Giver
Of Life, He has the right to take it.

If you choose to remain the way as you are in these posts (thinking
just like the Saducees of ancient Israel, and the athiests, that there
is no life after death, no Heaven, no Hell, and no judgment)...right
before you die, you will experience the sight of horrifying demons
grabbing on to you, and you will feel your body catch on fire. The heat
of Hell will be worse than any you've ever experienced. I can assure you
that there are no athiests or agnostics in Hell. They believe the Gospel
Truth now, but God's Offer of Grace and Forgiveness EXPIRES the moment
you die...and Hell is the one place where prayer has no effect.

It's like the individual who said "I wish God would give me what I
deserve". The preacher said "You better watch it...He just might do it".
If ALL of us really got WHAT WE DESERVE, ALL of us would have been cast
into Eternal Torment in The Lake Of Fire long ago. Romans 5:8 says that
"God commanded His Love toward us, in that while we were sinners, Christ
died for us".

He did NOT have to do what He did...but I'm thankful that He did. When
I heard the hymn "The Old Rugged Cross" 40 years ago, I literally broke
down and cried...realizing that I wasn't saved, and that I was a lost
sinner, on my way to Hell. By accepting God's Free Love Gift, I and all
the others who have done so, of our own free will and choice, have an
eternal home in Heaven.

John 3:18 notes that "He who believes on Him (Jesus Christ) is not condemned...but he who does not beleive on Him is CONDEMNED ALREADY".
In other words, it takes no decision on your part to go to Hell. God
does NOT want anyone to go to Hell, but if they laugh at what He did,
and consider everything I've posted here to be nothing but a joke,
wanting NOTHING of God, Jesus Christ, or Christianity in their
lives...one day, He will give them what they wanted. And, it will give
the term "hot under the collar" a whole new meaning.

thanks for the tips, i just started running synchronet last week and i know M>nothing about it.

You also validate 2 of the Scriptures by your posts.

1) "The Preaching Of The Cross is to them who die in their sins,
foolishness. But, to the saved, it is the Power of God". - 1 Corinthians
1:18

2) "The natural (unsaved) person does not receive the things of the
Spirit Of God, for they are foolishness to him. Neither can he know
them, because they are spiritually discerned".

In other words, there is no further need to discuss these things with
you. Your blood is off my hands...and the same for all those reading
this. You may think that God is FORCING you to choose Him...but He
leaves that choice to you...to ACCEPT Him or REJECT Him. On Judgment
Day, you won't be able to say you weren't warned. As Joshua in the Old Testament said "As for me and my house, we will serve The Lord".

As I said before, if I, and the other believers ON Jesus Christ, and
NOT just IN Him are WRONG...we won't lose much when we die.

Tragically, those who REFUSE to believe ON Him, will lose far
more...cursing God because once in Hell, "all hope is gone".

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And, one day, we will KNOW who is right.

Laugh all you want...but I guarantee you, that 2500 years from now,
you'll remember these messages.

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Re: Spiritual Witness 1/4
By: Daryl Stout to MRO on Tue Aug 01 2017 09:57:00

he was probably an alien.

Blasphemer!! You will answer to God for that.

No one truly *knows* who or WHAT God is. the Bible does not tell you. Maybe in your heart you feel I will go to hell for wondering the same. But who's to say that God is NOT an alien who seeded humans on this planet, created us in his image. even the bible speaks of chariots of fire flying in the air.

Don't ask me. ask ezekial (sp). Why damn someone to hell for being a bit open minded. Just because he does'nt think the same as you does not mean he's wrong.

and I believe that most "ancient" to modern time monotheistic religions all end up speaking of the SAME God. the word has been changed to reflect cultural differences. because most scripture especially all the ones that have derived from the abrahamic texts are all pretty much the same.

This is the major problem with the world in history on until today. "You don't worship God the way I worship God and you will go to hell, and I will give you the opportunity to get there"

just saying.

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Re: Spiritual Witness 3/4
By: Daryl Stout to MRO on Tue Aug 01 2017 09:57:00

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I'm sorry... please move this endless ranting to the religion echo..

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KK4QBN wrote to Daryl Stout <=-

he was probably an alien.

Blasphemer!! You will answer to God for that.

No one truly *knows* who or WHAT God is. the Bible does not tell you. Maybe in your heart you feel I will go to hell for wondering the same.
But who's to say that God is NOT an alien who seeded humans on this planet, created us in his image. even the bible speaks of chariots of
fire flying in the air.

And this is the problem I have with organised religion. Sure, it may have been founded on purely spiritual principles, but it has been subverted (perverted) by political interests to be used as a means of mass control. Stop the people from thinking independently, and you have them under your control. The Roman Catholic Church is also the last remnant of the Roman Empire, and sprang up after Emperor Constantine converted to Christianity. That speaks volumes about its inner workings.

Does God exist? As someone with a leaning towards the scientific, I don't believe it is possible to know if God truly exists, from our perspective within the Universe. Can the created ever get to know and understand the creator? Guess that question will get some answers if artificial intelligence develops to the point of sentience. So the question of the existence of God then becomes one of purely belief, which to me is a personal thing.

My own view is there is something that connects everything in the Universe. I don't see it as a traditional "God", but it could be interpreted as such by others, given the immensity of the Universe.

Don't ask me. ask ezekial (sp). Why damn someone to hell for being a
bit open minded. Just because he does'nt think the same as you does not mean he's wrong.

and I believe that most "ancient" to modern time monotheistic religions all end up speaking of the SAME God. the word has been changed to
reflect cultural differences. because most scripture especially all the ones that have derived from the abrahamic texts are all pretty much the same.

Except for the mistranslations along the way. No matter how well scholars translated things, the translations would be coloured by personal biases, and on top of that, who's to say there weren't deliberate, but subtle mistranslations for political purposes?


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Except for the mistranslations along the way. No matter how well scholars translated things, the translations would be coloured by personal biases, and on top of that, who's to say there weren't deliberate, but subtle mistranslations for political purposes?

Let us not forget the historical context and cultural references that was well understood at the time the original works were written. Some of it may seem foreign to us when we read it in today's context, but it made a lot of sense back then when it was spoken or written.

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Re: Spiritual Witness 1/4
By: Daryl Stout to MRO on Tue Aug 01 2017 09:57 am

I don't know what translation you read, but it likely was inspired by Satan. The Devil and his demon hordes are laughing uncontrollably at

wouldn't this be a better topic for the religon section?

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Except for the mistranslations along the way. No matter how well scholars translated things, the translations would be coloured by personal biases,

nd

on top of that, who's to say there weren't deliberate, but subtle mistranslations for political purposes?

Let us not forget the historical context and cultural references that
was well understood at the time the original works were written. Some
of it may seem foreign to us when we read it in today's context, but it made a lot of sense back then when it was spoken or written.

That too, historical context is very important in this.


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Re: Spiritual Witness 1/4
By: KK4QBN to Daryl Stout on Tue Aug 01 2017 08:00 pm

Blasphemer!! You will answer to God for that.

No one truly *knows* who or WHAT God is. the Bible does not tell you. Maybe

This is the major problem with the world in history on until today. "You don't worship God the way I worship God and you will go to hell, and I will give you the opportunity to get there"

I'm making a major effort to not be rude about this, but if this is the kind of thing people are into I have some ISIS videos I can show you.

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Re: Re: Spiritual Witness 1/4
By: Vk3jed to KK4QBN on Wed Aug 02 2017 11:57 am

creator? Guess that question will get some answers if artificial intelligence develops to the point of sentience. So the question of the existence of God then becomes one of purely belief, which to me is a personal thing.

As it stands, we have a poor understanding of *natural* intelligence.

Would anyone like to take a guess about what a soul is? You know, soul, like "psyche", like the object of the science known as "psychology".

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Re: Spiritual Witness 1/4
By: KK4QBN to Daryl Stout on Tue Aug 01 2017 08:00 pm

This is the major problem with the world in history on until today. "You don't worship God the way I worship God and you will go to hell, and I will give you the opportunity to get there"

Yep. And there are many different religions in the world.. Hindu in particular seems fairly different than Christianity. And sometimes it seems like everyone thinks everyone who believes differently than them is going to go to hell.

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Re: Spiritual Witness 1/4
By: Leregard to KK4QBN on Wed Aug 02 2017 07:37:34

I'm making a major effort to not be rude about this, but if this is the kind of thing people are into I have some ISIS videos I can show you.

Just because someone is'nt beheading another over religion does'nt make the fact that they are attempting to force their beliefs on another any better.. There is more killing and hate "In the name of God" than anything.. with Oil and politics pulling up the rear..

I can love God all the same without being caught up in organized religion. and I know God loves me all the same.

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Re: Re: Spiritual Witness 1/4
By: Leregard to Vk3jed on Wed Aug 02 2017 07:48:07

Would anyone like to take a guess about what a soul is? You know, soul, like "psyche", like the object of the science known as "psychology".
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Soul = Sentient mass of energy.. Us without the flesh and bone.. After we leave our mortal vessels our energy become one with all other energy, but is still self aware.

I have a feeling my soul will be placed into a piece of limburger cheese when I die.

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Re: Spiritual Witness 1/4
By: KK4QBN to Leregard on Wed Aug 02 2017 01:08 pm

There is more killing and hate "In the name of God" than anything.. with Oil and politics pulling up the rear..

I can love God all the same without being caught up in organized religion. and I know God loves me all the same.

I think we have a small misunderstanding about what I meant by that. But that's ok.

Any time anyone draws a circle on their cognitive world map and says "EVERYONE INSIDE THIS CIRCLE IS GOOD AND EVERYONE OUTSIDE OF IT IS BAD" is a fool and the end result, maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but eventually, is going to be intolerance and violence.

That said, most people don't fully appreciate the fact that "Allah" is just "God" in Arabic. Arabic language Bibles just say "Allah", exactly how Spanish Bibles say "Dios", or German Bibles say "Gott".

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Re: Re: Spiritual Witness 1/4
By: KK4QBN to Leregard on Wed Aug 02 2017 01:12 pm

Soul = Sentient mass of energy.. Us without the flesh and bone.. After we leave our mortal vessels our energy become one with all other energy, but is still self aware.

That's a pretty good answer, but I'll give you bonus points if you can explain in less than a few paragraphs what the Virgin Mary has to do with it. :)

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Re: Spiritual Witness 1/4
By: Daryl Stout to MRO on Tue Aug 01 2017 09:57 am

according to the bible hell is colder than heaven.

I don't know what translation you read, but it likely was inspired by Satan. The Devil and his demon hordes are laughing uncontrollably at
you, for the chains you let him put on you.

i'm sure they're just busting a gut laughing at my chains.
it's just something i heard.

do souls even feel heat or cold? why would they? they're not physical bodies. AHAH!

Jesus Christ is the MOST IMPORTANT PERSON that you, and anyone else who has ever lived, will meet. What you do with Him will determine

he was probably an alien.

Blasphemer!! You will answer to God for that.

what do you have against aliens? god created them most likely. how about time traveler?

WRONG!! If only ONE SIN was recorded in your life...ever...in
thought, word, or deed, you can NOT enter Heaven. Romans 3:10 says

that's pretty shitty of him.

you make me not like your god.

the more i hear people say 'i'm going to heaven and you arent' the more i am M>happy to not be included with that group of people.

May God have mercy on your unrepentant soul.

i'd bet my left nut you will go to hell if there is one.

If the individual's name is NOT in The Book Of Life, they won't go to Heaven...no matter how good they think they are.

again, if souls arent physical , why do they need a book? dont you think they'd have instant access to knowledge?

10) One third of the fresh water supply is poisoned, and people die from

the more you talk about religion the less i believe in god. i was a firm believer before, but all this stuff sounds like bullshit.
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Re: Spiritual Witness 2/4
By: Daryl Stout to MRO on Tue Aug 01 2017 09:57 am

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Re: Spiritual Witness 4/4
By: Daryl Stout to MRO on Tue Aug 01 2017 09:57 am

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And, one day, we will KNOW who is right.

Laugh all you want...but I guarantee you, that 2500 years from now,
you'll remember these messages.

jesus christ dude, you typed up several pages and split them.

i'd bet my soul against yours any day, btw.
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Re: Spiritual Witness 1/4
By: KK4QBN to Daryl Stout on Tue Aug 01 2017 08:00 pm

This is the major problem with the world in history on until today. "You don't worship God the way I worship God and you will go to hell, and I will give you the opportunity to get there"

i thought god loved us all. now he wants me to burn for all eternity for wondering if jesus was an alien.
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Re: Spiritual Witness 3/4
By: KK4QBN to Daryl Stout on Tue Aug 01 2017 08:01 pm

Re: Spiritual Witness 3/4
By: Daryl Stout to MRO on Tue Aug 01 2017 09:57:00

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I'm sorry... please move this endless ranting to the religion echo..

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Re: Spiritual Witness 1/4
By: Leregard to KK4QBN on Wed Aug 02 2017 14:22:14

There is more killing and hate "In the name of God" than anything..
with Oil and politics pulling up the rear..

I can love God all the same without being caught up in organized
religion. and I know God loves me all the same.

I think we have a small misunderstanding about what I meant by that. But that's ok.

I guess.. I really did'nt see any misunderstanding here.. it appears we have a lot of the same view on religion and faith.

Any time anyone draws a circle on their cognitive world map and says "EVERYONE INSIDE THIS CIRCLE IS GOOD AND EVERYONE OUTSIDE OF IT IS BAD" is a fool and the end result, maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but eventually, is going to be intolerance and violence.

Fully agree. To each their ow with their faith and religion. My main bother is religious extremists. those that smite others that do not think as they do. that's why I denounce many churches, because it is just about all you see anymore is hypocracy.

That said, most people don't fully appreciate the fact that "Allah" is just "God" in Arabic. Arabic language Bibles just say "Allah", exactly how Spanish Bibles say "Dios", or German Bibles say "Gott".

Exactly, as I stated earlier, all the religions that follow the Abrahamic scripture all worship the same God. Only cultural differences set us apart.

and the bible had been translated so many times, who can really say that theirs has the *correct* scripture. there is still much of the scrolls missing. and I believe deliberatly.

The Bible has evolved with cultures, just like humans experience macro (micro) evolution depending on where they live. this is the ONLY thing that sets us apart.

We are all one race, the human race. we have our differences but that was the plan in the beginning.

I believe to an extent that even the ancient worshipers of God(s) still worshipe the same God we do. However I believe these peoples (Ancient Egypt, Mayan, Aztecs, Inca, Hindu, Bhuddist, etc.) knew more of the TRUE word of God than we do today with this patchwork of a book that we call the bible.

The bible today is like requesting an open documents order from the US Government and getting everything back either censored or completely omitted, or changed to fit a certain parties agenda.

When in true form. all these people worshipped the same God. Whether it be mother earth the provider. to the many Gods of the vikings, etc.. All these "tales" taught the populace right from wrong, and showed what one could look forward to on their next plain of existance.

This is why I do NOT discriminate against ANYONE because of their faith. I may put down their religios instuttion. cause trust. the vast majority accross the board these days are brainwashing their flock and making "Heavens warriors" out of them.

I would rather sit in a room with 3 or 4 people and speak the word of God, or even on this message are. This right here is considered Church in Gods eyes. when multiple people congregate in his name.

This is why I don't understand why people cannot get over their petty differnces. I'd say most of this JIHAD, and the like is financed for political gain (and oil of course.)_

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Re: Re: Spiritual Witness 1/4
By: Leregard to KK4QBN on Wed Aug 02 2017 14:39:50

That's a pretty good answer, but I'll give you bonus points if you can explain in less than a few paragraphs what the Virgin Mary has to do with it. :) [0m

an earthly vessel for God to plant his "Seed" (pure energy, not a traditionial impregnation) So that the Son of God can descend from his plain of existance and be born mortal to be a martyr for mortals sins.

And for the Son of God to be produced by a mortal would be a real testament to the powers of God, thus giving those without faith the faith they really needed.

God is Jesus and Jesus us God, in the energy plain of existance we are all one, but sentiant to ourselves. Jesus not only is the Son of God, but also the Voice of God.

No one can say for sure how we really got here. God could be an alien, or a force of energy which still encompesses the earth today. and we were all seeded here in the Image of God when he created Adam. and then Created Eve from a part of Adam (Cloning). there are many instances of unknown chariots of fire in the bible. and Egypy, Aztec, Mayan glyphs also show spacecaft, and the nasca (s) lines are a whole other thing.

Also.. there are just too many coincidences with alighnments of bldgs, etc for there not to be a celestial intervention.

And also, the Obelisks that have popped up around the world on different continents that had no form of communication with each other. A lot of these obelisks have base minerals that conduct RF from the ground and in theory could create anything from wireless communication to the transmission of power. Just as the tesla wardencliffe tower.

and NO, I am not wearing my tin foil hat, there are too many "Coincidence" to these for them to be unrelated.

I believe so much technological data has been lost to the dark ages and crusades.

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Re: Spiritual Witness 1/4
By: Nightfox to KK4QBN on Wed Aug 02 2017 09:05 am

Yep. And there are many different religions in the world.. Hindu in particular seems fairly different than Christianity. And sometimes it seems like everyone thinks everyone who believes differently than them is going to go to hell.

in my religion you are stuffed into a confining tube and you are forced to listen to hotel california for all of eternity.
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Re: Spiritual Witness 1/4
By: Mro to Nightfox on Wed Aug 02 2017 06:10 pm

in my religion you are stuffed into a confining tube and you are forced to listen to hotel california for all of eternity.

You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave..

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Re: Spiritual Witness 1/4
By: Mro to KK4QBN on Wed Aug 02 2017 16:50:55

i thought god loved us all. now he wants me to burn for all eternity for wondering if jesus was an alien.

Exactly, I have pretty much posted the exact message later in the thread.

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in my religion you are stuffed into a confining tube and you are forced
to listen to hotel california for all of eternity.
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Leregard wrote to Vk3jed <=-

As it stands, we have a poor understanding of *natural* intelligence.

I'd agree totally, there's a lot about intelligence and sentience that we simply don't know.

Would anyone like to take a guess about what a soul is? You know,
soul, like "psyche", like the object of the science known as
"psychology".

Again, who knows?


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KK4QBN wrote to Leregard <=-

Just because someone is'nt beheading another over religion does'nt make the fact that they are attempting to force their beliefs on another any better.. There is more killing and hate "In the name of God" than anything.. with Oil and politics pulling up the rear..

A major problem here is religious minorities trying to force their world views on the population and into legislation. And no, it's not the Muslims, it's the fundamental Christans. The US is a major exporter of that sort of crap.

I can love God all the same without being caught up in organized
religion. and I know God loves me all the same.

I think many can. :) I prefer to deal in spirituality than religion, and that is an ongoing journey for me. :)


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KK4QBN wrote to Leregard <=-

Soul = Sentient mass of energy.. Us without the flesh and bone.. After
we leave our mortal vessels our energy become one with all other
energy, but is still self aware.

I like that idea, fits in with my belief in connectedness between all life in the Universe. :)

I have a feeling my soul will be placed into a piece of limburger
cheese when I die.

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Re: Re: Spiritual Witness 1/4
By: Mickey to Mro on Wed Aug 02 2017 09:03 pm

I am a member of the Holy Sepulcher of the Frisbee, and we believe when you die, your soul goes up on the roof, and you can't get it down.

unless there are high winds.
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Re: Re: Spiritual Witness 1/4
By: Vk3jed to KK4QBN on Thu Aug 03 2017 11:19:00

Just because someone is'nt beheading another over religion does'nt
make the fact that they are attempting to force their beliefs on
another any better.. There is more killing and hate "In the name of
God" than anything.. with Oil and politics pulling up the rear..

A major problem here is religious minorities trying to force their world views on the population and into legislation. And no, it's not the Muslims, it's the fundamental Christans. The US is a major exporter of that sort of crap.

This is exactly what I had in mind when posting this. think Westboro Baptist Church. I actually walked into a Church of God one night, stayed about 3 minutes and left. This church felt just like a cult to me.

For me, as per the bibles teachings, Church is a state of Mind.. we are holding Church now.

Skip all the vanity and hypocracy that goes on under a lot of those church buildings.

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Re: Re: Spiritual Witness 1/4
By: Vk3jed to KK4QBN on Thu Aug 03 2017 11:21:00

Soul = Sentient mass of energy.. Us without the flesh and bone..
After we leave our mortal vessels our energy become one with all
other energy, but is still self aware.

I like that idea, fits in with my belief in connectedness between all life in the Universe. :)

That's just the way I have always felt about life.. we are all pure energy. most of us have good enerhy, some have bad. bad energy can be bult up through jealosy, and a slew of other things. thats's why its good to walk bare foot on earth. your negative energy is dispelled, reclaimed by mother earth, and replinished with neutral enerjy. it is up to your aura to make it positive.

even in our mortal bodies we can tap into this enerjy of the earth and universe to help with sickness, and in extreme cases exert control over weaker minded individuals.

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KK4QBN wrote to Vk3jed <=-

A major problem here is religious minorities trying to force their world views on the population and into legislation. And no, it's not the Muslims, it's the fundamental Christans. The US is a major exporter of that sort of crap.

One of the big groups is the Australian Christian Lobby. They claim to represent all Christians, but are really a private entity that represents a narrow minded minority.

This is exactly what I had in mind when posting this. think Westboro Baptist Church. I actually walked into a Church of God one night,
stayed about 3 minutes and left. This church felt just like a cult to
me.

A lot of organised religion feels like a cult to me nowadays.

For me, as per the bibles teachings, Church is a state of Mind.. we are holding Church now.

And that idea makes a lot more sense to me too. While my beliefs are different, this exchange is still positive and could be considered "church" in the truest, spiritual sense.

Skip all the vanity and hypocracy that goes on under a lot of those
church buildings.

No argument from me there! :)


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KK4QBN wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I like that idea, fits in with my belief in connectedness between all life in the Universe. :)

That's just the way I have always felt about life.. we are all pure energy. most of us have good enerhy, some have bad. bad energy can be
bult up through jealosy, and a slew of other things. thats's why its
good to walk bare foot on earth. your negative energy is dispelled, reclaimed by mother earth, and replinished with neutral enerjy. it is
up to your aura to make it positive.

I'm also a believer in Karma - that what we do and what we receive from the Universe are balanced. Karma should teach us what we need to change, though the lesson is not always heeded. Whatever energy we have, it is up to us to cultivate the positive and transform the negative.

even in our mortal bodies we can tap into this enerjy of the earth and universe to help with sickness, and in extreme cases exert control over weaker minded individuals.

I agree. I am aware of some of those powers, and with great power comes great responsibility.


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Re: Spiritual Witness 1/4
By: Mro to Nightfox on Wed Aug 02 2017 06:10 pm

Yep. And there are many different religions in the world.. Hindu in
particular seems fairly different than Christianity. And sometimes it
seems like everyone thinks everyone who believes differently than them
is going to go to hell.

in my religion you are stuffed into a confining tube and you are forced to listen to hotel california for all of eternity.

Throw in stairway to heaven and I'm in.

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Re: Spiritual Witness 1/4
By: Mro to Daryl Stout on Wed Aug 02 2017 04:44 pm

do souls even feel heat or cold? why would they? they're not physical bodies. AHAH!

They have violent out-of-body hallucinations. Like nightmares. Haven't you ever had a bad trip? Like that.

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Re: Spiritual Witness 1/4
By: KK4QBN to Leregard on Wed Aug 02 2017 06:03 pm

is religious extremists. those that smite others that do not think as they do. that's why I denounce many churches, because it is just about all you see anymore is hypocracy.

I can handle "extremes" as long as they're extremely awesome. Most extremists are just extremely boring. Terrorism at least makes exciting TV, but most "fundamentalists" are just boring and uninspired and say the same dozen or so things over and over again and spend all their time listening to music and reading books and websites that are supposed to be "inspirational" but are really just saying the same damned things over and over again too. God forbid you say anything else, it might be CHAOS.

Exactly, as I stated earlier, all the religions that follow the Abrahamic scripture all worship the same God. Only cultural differences set us apart.

I'm not dismissing the "Abrahamic scriptures", but I don't care much what they say about that. There's either a God or there isn't and someone writing it down 3000 years ago doesn't make it true or false.

Back in the day our smartest people used to say "God made the world" and then did science on the world to see what God was thinking when He made it. It was important. Isaac Newton had some interesting thoughts about the Bible, for example. He had a lot to say about a Creator that would put the planets into perfect, mathematically predictable orbits around the Sun exactly the way He did. He proved the Creator COULD have put them into orbit some other way and "for some reason" didn't. Other orbits are mathematically possible.

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Re: Re: Spiritual Witness 1/4
By: Vk3jed to KK4QBN on Thu Aug 03 2017 09:51 pm

A major problem here is religious minorities trying to force their

Should'nt religious post's be posted in the religion board instead of here? Religion has it's own forum on Dove-Net.

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Re: Re: Spiritual Witness 1/4
By: KK4QBN to Vk3jed on Thu Aug 03 2017 03:03:11

This is exactly what I had in mind when posting this. think Westboro Baptist Church. I actually walked into a Church of God one night, stayed about 3 minutes and left. This church felt just like a cult to me.

I couldn't stand the Westboro Baptist and their nonsense and disrespectful protests.

Now, which Church of God? There are two fundimentally kinds: those who attend on Saturdays and those who attend on Sundays.

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Roadhog wrote to Vk3jed <=-

A major problem here is religious minorities trying to force their

Should'nt religious post's be posted in the religion board instead of here? Religion has it's own forum on Dove-Net.

Now, there you ask a good question. While I am interested in discussing certain aspects of religion, like history, social issues, comparitive religion, alternate world views, I'm not interested in being preached to, "saved", converted, etco it depends on what the focus of the RELIGION conference is. I don't currently read it (though that's a simple matter of adding it to a QWK packet). :)


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Re: Re: Spiritual Witness 1/4
By: KK4QBN to Vk3jed on Thu Aug 03 2017 03:09 am

That's just the way I have always felt about life.. we are all pure energy.

i feel the same way but i feel like i am pure bacon
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Re: Re: Spiritual Witness 1/4
By: jagossel to KK4QBN on Thu Aug 03 2017 01:13 pm

I couldn't stand the Westboro Baptist and their nonsense and disrespectful protests.

i've seen those guys. they are some type of fake traveling show.
they were protesting down the street from me. we let them do their bullshit and they left.
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Re: Re: Spiritual Witness 1/4
By: Mro to KK4QBN on Thu Aug 03 2017 22:13:15

That's just the way I have always felt about life.. we are all pure
energy.

i feel the same way but i feel like i am pure bacon

I always felt I was dealing with the likes of a pig...



say that you're bacon around a bunch of ham radio operators, and they might not be much of you left.. (not that we are cannibals) but you said you were bacon... and hams most of the time only talk about food "especially around here" and especially bacon..

are you sure you're not one of those elusive bridge trolls?

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Re: Re: Spiritual Witness 1/4
By: Mro to jagossel on Thu Aug 03 2017 22:35:03

I couldn't stand the Westboro Baptist and their nonsense and
disrespectful protests.

i've seen those guys. they are some type of fake traveling show.
they were protesting down the street from me. we let them do their bullshit and they left.

Nothin fake about them, they are just as, or more dangerous than any ISIS militant that would be let into this country.

Bunch of hickish freaks.

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Re: Re: Spiritual Witness 1/4
By: KK4QBN to Mro on Fri Aug 04 2017 05:35 am

Re: Re: Spiritual Witness 1/4

Shouldn't these religous posts be posted to the religion board instead of here? most people don't want to come to a regular message base and read religious rants when there is a message base that is specific to this subject already.

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Re: Re: Spiritual Witness 1/4
By: KK4QBN to Mro on Fri Aug 04 2017 05:35:43

I couldn't stand the Westboro Baptist and their nonsense and
disrespectful protests.

i've seen those guys. they are some type of fake traveling show.
they were protesting down the street from me. we let them do their bullshit and they left.

Nothin fake about them, they are just as, or more dangerous than any ISIS militant that would be let into this country.

Bunch of hickish freaks.

Based off of their protests, all they preach is hatred. I find it very disrespectful when they say that G-d hates vets. They don't care that vet spent early adulthood (and possibly up to their adult lives) protecting this country and their (vets and protesters) freedom of speach.

The whole notion of G-d hates fags, jews, vets, etc. is completely contrary to what we were taught about G-d and the Messiah.

I remember, when I was living in Missouri, that a major tornado tore up Joplin and killed many people. The Westboro Baptist decided to post out flyers stating that Joplin "deserved" it because Westboro claims that Joplin citizens actively participate in beastiality.

I suspect the so-called leaders and members have to be mentally ill to condemn people after a tradgey. People need love and support after going a tramatic experience, and publically humilating them and falsely saying they "deserve" it is not the answer. If anyone say it's "tough love", well, it's not; it's hate pure and simple.

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Re: Westboro Baptist
By: jagossel to KK4QBN on Fri Aug 04 2017 12:19:48

I suspect the so-called leaders and members have to be mentally ill to condemn people after a tradgey. People need love and support after going a tramatic experience, and publically humilating them and falsely saying they "deserve" it is not the answer. If anyone say it's "tough love", well, it's not; it's hate pure and simple.

Most Mentally Ill people have remorse.. these people are Psychopaths.

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Re: Westboro Baptist
By: KK4QBN to jagossel on Fri Aug 04 2017 12:35:20

I suspect the so-called leaders and members have to be mentally ill to condemn people after a tradgey. People need love and support after goin

g a

tramatic experience, and publically humilating them and falsely saying they "deserve" it is not the answer. If anyone say it's "tough love", well, it's not; it's hate pure and simple.

Most Mentally Ill people have remorse.. these people are Psychopaths.

Psychopaths with power, very dangerous indeed.

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Re: Re: Spiritual Witness 1/4
By: Roadhog to KK4QBN on Fri Aug 04 2017 09:07:35

Re: Re: Spiritual Witness 1/4

Shouldn't these religous posts be posted to the religion board instead of here? most people don't want to come to a regular message base and read religious rants when there is a message base that is specific to this subject already.

I stated the same about RELIGIOUS posts.. my posts were not of a RELIGIOUS nature, they were of a SPIRITUAL NATUREso actually they fit the topic of this area just fine.. BTW, you quoted something I did'nt even write.

maybe post to the correct person next time?

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Re: Re: Spiritual Witness 1/4
By: KK4QBN to Mro on Fri Aug 04 2017 05:35 am

Nothin fake about them, they are just as, or more dangerous than any ISIS militant that would be let into this country.

Bunch of hickish freaks.

well the ones that i saw didnt look so scarey. we ignored them and they moved on. i think it's some type of side show for donation money
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Re: Westboro Baptist
By: jagossel to KK4QBN on Fri Aug 04 2017 03:20 pm

Psychopaths with power, very dangerous indeed.

They're high-functioning sociopaths.

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Re: Westboro Baptist
By: poindexter FORTRAN to jagossel on Fri Aug 04 2017 06:14 pm

Re: Westboro Baptist
By: jagossel to KK4QBN on Fri Aug 04 2017 03:20 pm

Psychopaths with power, very dangerous indeed.

They're high-functioning sociopaths.

psychopaths and sociopaths are just old incorrect labels for conditions that do not exist.
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Re: Westboro Baptist
By: Mro to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Aug 04 2017 23:29:28

psychopaths and sociopaths are just old incorrect labels for conditions that do not exist.

What would you call it then? An overactive Adrenal Gland with a slight case of retardation?

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Re: Westboro Baptist
By: KK4QBN to Mro on Sat Aug 05 2017 07:11 am

Re: Westboro Baptist
By: Mro to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Aug 04 2017 23:29:28

psychopaths and sociopaths are just old incorrect labels for conditions that do not exist.

What would you call it then? An overactive Adrenal Gland with a slight case of retardation?

regarding the word psychopath and sociopath are labels that are overused and not understood.

what people sometimes mean when using these words are a few types of personality disorders.

regarding those westboro guys, i dont know what their deal is. it's a very strange situation and i dont believe they are entirely genuine.
when they protested in my city everything about it was weird.

maybe the guy at the top of it is just doing it to get donations?
lots of crazies and racists throw money at them i'm sure.
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Re: Smoking
By: Daryl Stout to NIGHTFOX on Sun Jul 30 2017 09:42 am

You are correct on that. And, if ones sense of smell is seemingly
acute as a dog's (they can smell one part of urine in 60 million parts
of water), it's even more pronounced.

... and yet they drink from the commode anyway. :-/

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Re: Smoking
By: Digital Man to Daryl Stout on Mon Aug 07 2017 21:23:28

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[34mBy[0m[34m: [1m[36mDaryl Stout [34mto [36mNIGHTFOX [34mon [36mSun Jul 30 2017 09:42 am[0m

You are correct on that. And, if ones sense of smell is seemingly
acute as a dog's (they can smell one part of urine in 60 million parts
of water), it's even more pronounced.

... and yet they drink from the commode anyway. :-/

Exactly... And sniff butts and other "Parts" they also roll in roadkill.. is this some sort of cologne to them? Male dog rolls in roadkill and comes up to a pack of bitches.. "Hey Baby, don't I smell sexy!".

I find it funny when I walk my male beagle, we usally walk about 4 blocks and by the time we get back around he has 3 female dogs on each side of him.. He looked up at me one day and said.. Hey check out my Bitches.. :-)

Corny but true..

He's a rescue dog, the guy I got him from, "Sheriff of a neighboring county" said he has'nt been fixed.. but he won't have anything to do with any of these dogs.. buth there is a female beagle in a fence that he completely goes crazy over... I have to try to avoid that area when walking him.

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