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By: Denn Gray to jagossel on Sat Jul 15 2017 09:27 pm
Did you mean to post this on a networked message area? This was posted on Dove-Net General.
Thank you for logging on to my BBS and letting me know about that issue, I really appreciate that.
Thank you for logging on to my BBS and letting me know about that
issue, I really appreciate that.
Did you mean to post this on a networked message area? This was posted on Dove-Net General.
To quote an old sysop from of mine from a message he posted on his BBS RW>years ago: "I hear there is a cure for that now." :)
More like: "Overmedicated?? We have a prescription for that"!! :P
Isn't that the truth these days. It seems like there is a perscription for J>anything.
Her male co-worker growls "By NOT finding a cure for [insert illness here], that's how we can continue to butter our bread".
Jeff Foxworthy has a video on YouTube, entitled "Prescription Side Effects". He correctly notes several things:
1) When I was growing up, there were only 2 things in the medicine
cabinet -- aspirin, and Camphophenique.
2) They've made us a bunch of paranoid nuts, with all these
prescription medicines.
3) More than half the time, the side effects from the prescriptions are
50 times worse than what they're designed to threat!!
Indeed, several medicines indicate that "side effects may include
death". WTH??!!
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Thank you for logging on to my BBS and letting me know about that
issue, I really appreciate that.
he's good at debugging bbs systems.. a lot of the issues wirg mine i woukd have never known about if not for Jag.
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Daryl Stout wrote to JAGOSSEL <=-
3) More than half the time, the side effects from the prescriptions are
50 times worse than what they're designed to threat!!
Indeed, several medicines indicate that "side effects may include death". WTH??!!
jagossel wrote to Daryl Stout <=-
I remember one time I had a muscle spasm in my lower right back, I went
to urgent care. The doctor on duty wanted me to take a shot and
perscribe me with muscle relaxers. I had a bad experience with muscle relaxers (my wife got drugged by someone else in her family when she
was in a lot of pain when she was pregnant with our son [unbeknownst to
us she was pregnant]). So, I asked for alternatives, and the doctor annoyingly replied: just put an ice pack on it for a couple of days.
After urgent care, I went to the chiropractor and massage therapist the next day, was pain free after a couple of days from the adjustment and massage.
I did notice that the FDA will not approve natural "suppliments", and it wouldn't surprise me that they are lobbied against.
In some cases, I am certain they are. Monstanto does not want nature replacing any of its chemicals. Dow probably does not, either.
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Yep, I'd have definitely gone to the massage therapist first, possibly a V>chiropractor, if needed. :) Being heavily into sport, I've had my share of V>muscular issues, and know what works (rarely, is it a product from Big Pharma V>most commonly, self care and massage works well.
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Yep, I'd have definitely gone to the massage therapist first, possibly a chiropractor, if needed. :) Being heavily into sport, I've had my share of muscular issues, and know what works (rarely, is it a product from Big Pharma), most commonly, self care and massage works well.
I did notice that the FDA will not approve natural "suppliments", and
it wouldn't surprise me that they are lobbied against.
so we just need to shut down those companys?
I've considered getting such done, because I have a lot of muscle spasms...and hope the masseuse is a good looking female. ;)
so we just need to shut down those companys?
I've considered getting such done, because I have a lot of muscle spasms...and hope the masseuse is a good looking female. ;)
and there are also plenty of other herbs out there that make excellent medicones for many things, hell thats what they're there for.
Even my DOG know this.. I'll take him for walks and every once in a blue moon
he will eat only ONE certail type of grass, and will only eat the top half of
it. Vets call this "Pika" I believe and say that they do this because they are
bored... I call bullshit.. he only does it when he has a stomach ache and it helps hime to either use the bathroom or vomit.
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Re: Overmedicated
By: Richard Williamson to Dumas Walker on Sun Jul 16 2017 23:39:15
so we just need to shut down those companys?
thats almost as bad as saying you are going to sh00t the prez of a
nation.
watch out fot the black cars, etc..
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Daryl Stout wrote to VK3JED <=-
I've considered getting such done, because I have a lot of muscle spasms...and hope the masseuse is a good looking female. ;)
I did have an MRI of my neck, and an EMG (electric nerve conductivity test) a few years ago...due to twitching and burning in my arms and
hands. Because of the 2 indirect lightning strikes at 3 and 16 years of age, I do have nervous system damage. But, I don't have multiple
sclerosis or Lou Gehring's disease...and they weren't ready to declare
it as fibromyalgia (my in-laws and my Mom have it). The pain though,
may be entirely from arthritis, which is throughout my body...and
there's no cure for that.
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KK4QBN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I've had so many positive experiences from massage therapy. Get this. I was in a Drug Rehab program because I had an issue with opiates.
there was a lady who needed to log so many hours befor being able to
open a practice for herself, I believe thats the way it went. Well the first one did'nt quite work becakse she did'nt put enough pressure on
me.
The second on though, she lowered the table, and after finishing I felt like a walking marshmellow whome needed a drink of water, but I did'nt have a single pop in my neck or joints for about a month or so. she did such a great job..
would hav ekept going back but I graduated the treatment program, now
she has received all her hours and has moved somwhere out to the
midwest :(
I swear she was only training, but that is the best deep tissue massage
I have had,
I've had so many positive experiences from massage therapy. Get this. I was in a Drug Rehab program because I had an issue with opiates.
Never touched opiates, but I do have a lot of positive experience with massage.
These days, I use massage as part of my overall maintenance, to counteract the effects of the stresses of training and competition. It helps that one of the members in my athletics club is also a practicing massage therapist,
In some cases, I am certain they are. Monstanto does not want nature replacing any of its chemicals. Dow probably does not, either.so we just need to shut down those companys?
Even my DOG know this.. I'll take him for walks and every once in a blue moon he will eat only ONE certail type of grass, and will only eat the top half of it. Vets call this "Pika" I believe and say that they do this because they are
bored... I call bullshit.. he only does it when he has a stomach ache and it helps hime to either use the bathroom or vomit.
Mro wrote to Vk3jed <=-
it's getting really hard to get opiates because of bad doctors and
people who abused them.
These days, I use massage as part of my overall maintenance, to counteract the effects of the stresses of training and competition. It helps that one of the members in my athletics club is also a practicing massage therapist,
did you ever try largenine for repairing your body quicker? worked for
half of it. Vets call this "Pika" I believe and say that they do this because they are
bored... I call bullshit.. he only does it when he has a stomach ache and it helps hime to either use the bathroom or vomit.
I also call BS. When I was a kid, a neighbor's dog would do the same thing and it, too, would them vomit. It also did not do it all the time...
prolly just after us kids fed it something that didn't agree with it. :O
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In some cases, I am certain they are. Monstanto does not want nature replacing any of its chemicals. Dow probably does not, either.so we just need to shut down those companys?
Not my suggestion. I have no issue with someone defending a patent against the invention of another. But, if someone prefers to use a natural substance that provides the same function, they should be
allowed to, and people should be allowed to sell it to them.
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I've considered getting such done, because I have a lot of muscle spasms...and hope the masseuse is a good looking female. ;)
Remember, the body has many possible natural reactions to the process. :D
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Haha, I knew there was something about you. :P
Mro wrote to Vk3jed <=-
it's getting really hard to get opiates because of bad doctors and people who abused them.
Yeah, they're tightening the rules here too. I've never had to try to obtain opiates, just going by what I hear on the news from time to time.
I've considered getting such done, because I have a lot of muscle spasms...and hope the masseuse is a good looking female. ;)
Remember, the body has many possible natural reactions to the process. :D
It might not matter to me. I "got my wings clipped" 14 years ago,
after having chicken pox 37 years ago, that put me in the hospital for a week, and out of work and college for 2 months.
Then, I was working around nasty solvents like methyl ethyl ketone in silkscreen printing for over 18 years.
Now, with kidney/bladder stone removal surgery, and partial prostate removal, I likely have E.D. (and I don't mean "electronic doofus" <G>),
and retrograde ejaculation.
But, since I don't ever plan on getting married again, and can't
father a child anyway (I never had children, and have been a widower for over 10 years now), that's the least of my worries.
I use a cane every day, but some days, have to go to a walker...and
may eventually end up in a wheelchair.
Daryl Stout wrote to VK3JED <=-
That's like the joke of in the desert, of how you make an 8 day camel out of a 7 day camel.
Mro wrote to Vk3jed <=-
you never had to have a pain pill in your life?
yeah it seems our goverenment doesn't like us taking any natual stuff lol
Mro wrote to Vk3jed <=-
you never had to have a pain pill in your life?
Nothing beyond aspirin or paracetamol.
Re: Re: Overmedicated
By: Vk3jed to Mro on Wed Jul 19 2017 09:18 am
Mro wrote to Vk3jed <=-
you never had to have a pain pill in your life?
Nothing beyond aspirin or paracetamol.
well, that's very unusual.
it's getting really hard to get opiates because of bad doctors and people who abused them.
eat the top half of it. Vets call this "Pika" I believe and say that
they do this because they are bored... I call bullshit.. he only does
it when he has a stomach ache and it helps hime to either use the
bathroom or vomit.
I also call BS. When I was a kid, a neighbor's dog would do the same thing and it, too, would them vomit. It also did not do it all the time... prolly just after us kids fed it something that didn't agree with it. :O
well, that's very unusual.you never had to have a pain pill in your life?Nothing beyond aspirin or paracetamol.
and if it werent for bad luck, he'd have none.
you never had to have a pain pill in your life?
Nothing beyond aspirin or paracetamol.
yeah it seems our goverenment doesn't like us taking any natual stuff lol
No they sure don't. Mother Nature is not a big enough donor to their DW>political campaigns. :)
No, it's not unusual to only take aspirin or paracetamol. Thankfullly, I never needed to go beyond aspirin either. Granted, I have days to were I have neck pain so bad that it gives me a headache. Other days, my lower
well, that's very unusual.you never had to have a pain pill in your life?Nothing beyond aspirin or paracetamol.
God bless him. I can't wait to see what modern medicine has in store with me when I get old and/or broken.
Daryl Stout wrote to VK3JED <=-
Just like comedian Jeff Foxworthy (You Might Be A Redneck) noted in
his video on "Prescription Side Effects" (you can see it on YouTube).
He noted "When I was growing up, the only things in the medicine
cabinet were aspirin and Camphopenique". I too, remember those days!!
Jagossel wrote to Mro <=-
No, it's not unusual to only take aspirin or paracetamol. Thankfullly,
I never needed to go beyond aspirin either. Granted, I have days to
were I have neck pain so bad that it gives me a headache. Other days,
my lower right back muscles tense up, feeling pretty close to another spasm.
KK4QBN wrote to Mro <=-
Exactly right.. doctors who tell you its the only course of treatment
they can offer, get you strung out on them then drop you off of them
with no warning or without weening you off of them.. it happens too
much and is screwing too many lives up.. it has taken away the prime
years of my life.
SquigY0 wrote to Mro <=-
God bless him. I can't wait to see what modern medicine has in store
with me when I get old and/or broken.
Daryl Stout wrote to DUMAS WALKER <=-
Don't lie, cheat, commit adultery, or steal. The government hates competition.
That's why you can't post The Ten Commandements in Washington, D.C.
-- it creates a hostile work environment. :P
Mro wrote to Jagossel <=-
if you're an adult there should be atleast one time when you had pain killers. unless you dont visit a doctor or dentist.
Mro wrote to SquigY0 <=-
well i broke my arm when i was a kid. i think i got pain killers for
that.
i had my wisdom teeth out, i got pain killers for that.
a few other normal things, but i certainly am glad i go them and would have not preferred over the counter pain relief.
i expect other people to have atleast had pain meds once.
No, it's not unusual to only take aspirin or paracetamol. Thankfullly, I never needed to go beyond aspirin either. Granted, I have days to were I have neck pain so bad that it gives me a headache. Other days, my lower right back muscles tense up, feeling pretty close to another spasm.
I rarely get anything that severe, currently got some back/.neck issues that are taking a lot of massage to slowly sort, I have a massage ball to help wi that. :) My other main source of pain is sports injuries, better training t help prevent those is the best treatment there. :)
... We print the news WE think you need to be told.
if you're an adult there should be atleast one time when you had pain killers. unless you dont visit a doctor or dentist.
I've only had local anaesthetic at the dentist, no other pain killers Never had any prescribed by a doctor.
it's getting really hard to get opiates because of bad doctors and peop who abused them.
Exactly right.. doctors who tell you its the only course of treatment they c offer, get you strung out on them then drop you off of them with no warning without weening you off of them.. it happens too much and is screwing too ma lives up.. it has taken away the prime years of my life.
Can't say I have'nt learned from experience though..
Mro wrote to Jagossel <=-
if you're an adult there should be atleast one time when you had pain killers. unless you dont visit a doctor or dentist.
I've only had local anaesthetic at the dentist, no other pain killers Never had any prescribed by a doctor.
I have heard that is how it starts, doctors prescribing pain killers. Then,
it just goes down hill from there. I forget the name of the documentary that I saw last year, but it was about a brother of a famous wrestler that died from opiod additictions. The documenter blamed the people for the fact that the people is into this violent entertainment business and demanding for more and more.
jagossel wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I never thought that anyone would have classified that kind of neck
pain leading up to a headache as "severe pain". One way or another, it does get pretty bad at times to where I just feel like absolute crap.
Like I said, I try my best to get through it without taking any form of pain killers.
... We print the news WE think you need to be told.
CNN? MSNBC? Fox News? Who? :D
jagossel wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I am the same way, only had novacain to get a baby tooth removed and
local anaesthetic to have a hook removed from my hand or to have my
knee stitched up from doing something stupid to burst it wide open.
Other than that, no perscription pain killers, thankfully.
Quoting Mro to SquigY0 <=-
i had my wisdom teeth out, i got pain killers for that.
i expect other people to have atleast had pain meds once.
KK4QBN wrote to Mro <=-
Exactly right.. doctors who tell you its the only course of treatment they can offer, get you strung out on them then drop you off of them with no warning or without weening you off of them.. it happens too much and is screwing too many lives up.. it has taken away the prime years of my life.
So, you've been caught up in the prescription opiate trap? :(
i expect other people to have atleast had pain meds once.
Of course I have had them. Morphine in hosiptal, pec's, t3's etc. I choose to not have them if given a choice. (And for the record, I hate
the way morphine works... always gives me a headache)
If you go to the doctor for *pain* now, even if it's minor, they treat you like a criminal.
i expect other people to have atleast had pain meds once.
Of course I have had them. Morphine in hosiptal, pec's, t3's etc. I
choose to not have them if given a choice. (And for the record, I hate
the way morphine works... always gives me a headache)
If you go to the doctor for *pain* now, even if it's minor, they treat you like a criminal.
If you go to the doctor for *pain* now, even if it's minor, they treat like a criminal.
Maybe that's because Doctors were giving out prescriptions so they could get bonuses from the drug manufacturers.
if you're an adult there should be atleast one time when you had pain killers. unless you dont visit a doctor or dentist.
i had my wisdom teeth out, i got pain killers for that.
God bless him. I can't wait to see what modern medicine has in store with me when I get old and/or broken.
I'm doing all I can to delay that day. :)
If you go to the doctor for *pain* now, even if it's minor, they treat you li L>a criminal.
I think a lot of people find kratom helpful. I remember a huge outpouring of support when the DEA tried to schedule 1 it last year.
Leregard wrote to Vk3jed <=-
My State of residence currently has a robust medical marijuana
program...
Daryl Stout wrote to VK3JED <=-
I'm doing all I can to delay that day. :)
You and me both...they tell me I eventually will need neck, hip, and knee surgery. They might "cut something else off" if they do that all
at once. :P
But, none of us is getting any younger.
i expect other people to have atleast had pain meds once.
I've worn full dentures since 2000...my own set of "falsies". The
latest ones I have, which I got from "Affordable Dentures", have fit SO
Nothing beyond aspirin or paracetamol.
well, that's very unusual.
No, it's not unusual to only take aspirin or paracetamol. Thankfullly, I
Of course I have had them. Morphine in hosiptal, pec's, t3's etc. I choose to not have them if given a choice. (And for the record, I hate
the way morphine works... always gives me a headache)
if you're an adult there should be atleast one time when you had pain killers. unless you dont visit a doctor or dentist.
and even then, there's ways >:)
Leregard wrote to Vk3jed <=-
My State of residence currently has a robust medical marijuana program...
Now, that's a drug that seems to show a lot of promise for a number of conditions. It's starting to come in here, but still very limited. There is a bit of support here for it.
it seems like the people that love weed say it has all these healthy benefits. so i'm leery about it.
Mro wrote to Vk3jed <=-
it seems like the people that love weed say it has all these healthy benefits. so i'm leery about it.
Captain Obvious wrote to Mro <=-
I don't know. I'd like to see a bunch more research on it. Can't trust anything the government says about it and of course smokers believe all claims. From what I've read it does have a lot of benefits though.
Haven't partaken since the early '80s and while I support legalization
I still probably wouldn't smoke.
Quoting Leregard to Tiny <=-
If you go to the doctor for *pain* now, even if it's minor, they treat
you like a criminal.
Quoting Mro to Vk3jed <=-
it seems like the people that love weed say it has all these healthy benefits. so i'm leery about it.
I'm pretty sure every person i know personally has had a pain pill in their lifetime.
If you go to the doctor for *pain* now, even if it's minor, they treat you like a criminal.
Tiny wrote to Mro <=-
Here's something for ya then. I hate weed. Having said that I have
a script for it, and use it. It has cured my acid reflux, my nausea,
and brings the pain in my hip and back down to a dull roar. Having
said that I still don't like being high so I tend to get the all CBD strains when they have it, and when they don't the lowest thc and
highest cbd I can find.
Still not a fan of weed, and never will be. It works for me, but I'm still not a "pot lover" the way a lot of people are.
Deepthaw wrote to Mro <=-
I've never prescribed anything stronger than aspirin/tylenol/advil.
Then again: I'm only 39, and I've never had a major surgery of any
kind, and I somehow made it through childhood without breaking any
bones.
Poindexter Fortran wrote to Leregard <=-
If you try to by antihistamines because you have hay fever, ditto.
I've worn full dentures since 2000...my own set of "falsies". The latest ones I have, which I got from "Affordable Dentures", have fit SO
Had mine since about 91 or 92. On my second set now and about the same, very CO>little tooth glue and they look real. Damn sure save on dental bills now lol
Maybe that's because Doctors were giving out prescriptions so they could get D>bonuses from the drug manufacturers.
Most things I can take tylenol and I'm good but I tend to get kidney stones CO>every few years. My last bout, over the winter, I had three at the same time CO>They had to go in with a fucking laser and get them out. Morphine (and then CO>Demerol) is my friend those points in my life.
and even then, there's ways >:)wink wink
claims. From what I've read it does have a lot of benefits though.
Haven't partaken since the early '80s and while I support legalization I still probably wouldn't smoke.
this one woman sneezed, and sure enough, both her upper and lower
denture plates flew out of her mouth, and to the carpet. Without missing
a beat, she stooped down, picked them up, and put them back in her
mouth. When asked "Aren't you going to clean them first??", she
apparently asked "Why?", or said "No", and went back to rambling.
Re: Re: Overmedicated
By: Mro to Jagossel on Thu Jul 20 2017 06:56 pm
I'm pretty sure every person i know personally has had a pain pill
in their lifetime.
I've never prescribed anything stronger than aspirin/tylenol/advil. Then again: I'm only 39, and I've never had a major surgery of any kind, and I somehow made it through childhood without breaking any bones.
Still not a fan of weed, and never will be. It works for me, but I'm still not a "pot lover" the way a lot of people are.
Mro scribbled to Tiny <=-
Still not a fan of weed, and never will be. It works for me, but I'm still not a "pot lover" the way a lot of people are.
yeah, i've smoked pot but didnt really like it. some people like everything about it. the entire experience including the taste.
I'm 49 and never used anything stronger than the above. Also didn't break any bones, put that down to good bone density, as there's at least a couple of times I should have broken bones.
That's another common ailment that I've somehow managed to avoid. Just about everyone else in my family is susceptible to hay fever, so I don't know how I missed that one. :)
this one woman sneezed, and sure enough, both her upper and lower denture plates flew out of her mouth, and to the carpet. Without missing a beat, she stooped down, picked them up, and put them back in her mouth. When asked "Aren't you going to clean them first??", she apparently asked "Why?", or said "No", and went back to rambling.
Come on! You haven't heard of the 8 second rule!?!? :O
and even then, there's ways >:)wink wink
Something in your eye there bro? :P
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and even then, there's ways >:)wink wink
Something in your eye there bro? :P
Nice comeback. <G>
But that's the beautiful thing with modern science -- you don't have to
to extract the THC so you get the healing benefits without being high.
A family member tried the Kratom to get off of opiates deal. It was just trading one addiction for another. The withdrawal was practically as bad whe they ran out of money to buy Kratom.
Poindexter Fortran wrote to Vk3jed <=-ouple
I'm 49 and never used anything stronger than the above. Also didn't break any bones, put that down to good bone density, as there's at least a
of times I should have broken bones.
I put it down to playground safety. :)
My elementary school was the only one in the district without sand or grass anywhere. All of the playground equipment was made out of metal
and chains, the swings were hard rubber, the equipment was over a pit
of bark on top of asphalt and at least one kid broke a limb a year.
Nowadays, some of the playgrounds have spongy material on the ground!
Poindexter Fortran wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I had hay fever for a couple of years, but it seems to have gone away.
I moved out near the coast which might be part of not having any
ongoing issues.
Jon Justvig wrote to Daryl Stout <=-ways >:)
wink wink
Something in your eye there bro? :P
Nice comeback. <G>
It wasn't smoke.
Still not a fan of weed, and never will be. It works for me, but I'm still not a "pot lover" the way a lot of people are.
yeah, i've smoked pot but didnt really like it. some people like everything about it. the entire experience including the taste.
Did you inhale?
Nowadays, some of the playgrounds have spongy material on the ground!
Mro scribbled to Tiny <=-
Still not a fan of weed, and never will be. It works for me, but I'm still not a "pot lover" the way a lot of people are.
yeah, i've smoked pot but didnt really like it. some people like everything about it. the entire experience including the taste.
Did you inhale?
Daryl Stout wrote to JON JUSTVIG <=-
They were going to ask that on a study for second hand flatulence,
but could never get enough volunteers. <G>
Nowadays, some of the playgrounds have spongy material on the ground!
That's standard here now, under the climbing/playground equipment. :)
I'd be more concerned of the hot metal surfaces in the summer.
This is not from personal experience, but from what I've heard, nothing is "practically as bad" as opiate withdrawal. You can DIE from opiate withdrawal.
Poindexter Fortran wrote to Vk3jed <=-
We're raising a generation of namby-pambies. Where the fun when there's
no thrill? :)
They were going to ask that on a study for second hand flatulence,
but could never get enough volunteers. <G>
Have to be careful, those studies can turn to shit really easily! :D
Mro wrote to Leregard <=-
alcohol withdrawl is pretty bad and you can die from it.
Daryl Stout wrote to VK3JED <=-
Have to be careful, those studies can turn to shit really easily! :D
And, you can be certain that the results are crappy. :P
Vk3jed scribbled to Jon Justvig <=-
wink wink
Something in your eye there bro? :P
Nice comeback. <G>
It wasn't smoke.
I'm not sure I want to know! :P
Daryl Stout scribbled to JON JUSTVIG <=-
Still not a fan of weed, and never will be. It works for me, but I'm still not a "pot lover" the way a lot of people are.
yeah, i've smoked pot but didnt really like it. some people like everything about it. the entire experience including the taste.
Did you inhale?
They were going to ask that on a study for second hand flatulence,
but could never get enough volunteers. <G>
is "practically as bad" as opiate withdrawal. You can DIE from opiate withdrawal.
alcohol withdrawl is pretty bad and you can die from it.
I have to be careful when I sneeze at times, so they don't fly out of
my mouth!! :P
You also need something like Miralax, and pain meds will shut your digestive system down.
Re: Re: Overmedicated
By: Mro to Leregard on Sun Jul 23 2017 12:40 pm
is "practically as bad" as opiate withdrawal. You can DIE from opiate withdrawal.
alcohol withdrawl is pretty bad and you can die from it.
Are you trying to argue with me over whether alcohol withdrawal or heroin withdrawal is worse? It's not a competition, is it?
withdrawal.
---alcohol withdrawl is pretty bad and you can die from it.
But that's the beautiful thing with modern science -- you don't have to anymore. The dispenseries will have edibles and they've also figured
out how to extract the THC so you get the healing benefits without being
We bought a CBD oil to treat our dogs anxiety on a long road trip once. That was perfectly legal until last year, I think. Now even the CBD oil needs a "prescription" (except in states with recreational).
We're raising a generation of namby-pambies. Where the fun when there's
no thrill? :)
Jon Justvig wrote to Vk3jed <=-
wink wink
Something in your eye there bro? :P
Nice comeback. <G>
It wasn't smoke.
I'm not sure I want to know! :P
Ah, c'mon, not just a little curious?
Captain Obvious wrote to SquigY0 <=-
True. My daughter suffers from extreme anxiety at times and we've been researching CBD oil.
put your tampon back in.alcohol withdrawl is pretty bad and you can die from it.
you said
nothing? > > > is "practically as bad" as opiate withdrawal. You can DIE from opiate
i saidwithdrawal.
alcohol withdrawl is pretty bad and you can die from it.
I'm sorry. You were making a valid point about substance abuse and not just being a dick. I guess I just expect the worst from you, for some reason.
You also need something like Miralax, and pain meds will shut your digestive system down.
Always. Except for the rare occasions when I do get stones I don't take CO>anything stronger than a Tylenol so the pain meds really work. Good and bad CO>parts.
True. My daughter suffers from extreme anxiety at times and we've been researching CBD oil.
What's weird here (in Georgia) is that even though we now have a medical marijuana law that regulates CBD, you can still buy it all over the state without a prescription card . The law went into effect in 2015 if I am correct. Just recently started reading up on it so I could be wrong.
I'm sorry. You were making a valid point about substance abuse and not just being a dick. I guess I just expect the worst from you, for some reason.
Re: Re: Overmedicated
By: Leregard to Mro on Tue Jul 25 2017 07:23 am
I'm sorry. You were making a valid point about substance abuse and not just being a dick. I guess I just expect the worst from you, for some reason.
I usually expect the worst from Mro myself.. It's based on what I've seen from him in the past.
Mro scribbled to Jon Justvig <=-
Re: Re: Overmedicated
By: Jon Justvig to Mro on Sat Jul 22 2017 08:13 am
Mro scribbled to Tiny <=-
Still not a fan of weed, and never will be. It works for me, but I'm still not a "pot lover" the way a lot of people are.
yeah, i've smoked pot but didnt really like it. some people like everything about it. the entire experience including the taste.
Did you inhale?
yes
Vk3jed scribbled to Jon Justvig <=-
Jon Justvig wrote to Vk3jed <=-
wink wink
Something in your eye there bro? :P
Nice comeback. <G>
It wasn't smoke.
I'm not sure I want to know! :P
Ah, c'mon, not just a little curious?
The mind boggles. ;)
Vk3jed scribbled to Mro <=-
Mro wrote to Leregard <=-
alcohol withdrawl is pretty bad and you can die from it.
Alcohol is a nasty drug, for this and many other reasons.
Leregard scribbled to Mro <=-
Re: Re: Overmedicated
By: Mro to Leregard on Sun Jul 23 2017 12:40 pm
is "practically as bad" as opiate withdrawal. You can DIE from opiate withdrawal.
alcohol withdrawl is pretty bad and you can die from it.
Are you trying to argue with me over whether alcohol withdrawal or
heroin withdrawal is worse? It's not a competition, is it?
Jon Justvig wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Alcohol is a nasty drug, for this and many other reasons.
Really, anything like addiction or something that causes you to
be out of your own control is not a good thing. We should be
depedant of nothing. Just like it too time to start it, it will
take time to stop it as well. It's a mindset. Thankfully, I
never got addicted to alcohol or heavy drugs. Right now, my two
main problems, which aren't even main, but minor is nicotene and
caffeine. They fit like hand in glove.
I usually expect the worst from Mro myself.. It's based on what I've
seen from him in the past.
it's because you're an autistic faggot.
it's because you're an autistic faggot.
Vk3jed scribbled to Jon Justvig <=-
Jon Justvig wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Alcohol is a nasty drug, for this and many other reasons.
Really, anything like addiction or something that causes you to
be out of your own control is not a good thing. We should be
Agree, but it is knows getting off some drugs is worse than others. Nicotine, although highly addicetive, doesn't have serious side effects from withdrawl, while alcohol often does.
depedant of nothing. Just like it too time to start it, it will
take time to stop it as well. It's a mindset. Thankfully, I
never got addicted to alcohol or heavy drugs. Right now, my two
main problems, which aren't even main, but minor is nicotene and
caffeine. They fit like hand in glove.
Yeah, only drug I ever got addicted to was nicotine, but kicked that
habit some 18 years ago. Nowadays, it's all about sport and exercise.
:)
Nightfox scribbled to Mro <=-
Re: Re: Overmedicated
By: Mro to Nightfox on Tue Jul 25 2017 06:01 pm
I usually expect the worst from Mro myself.. It's based on what I've
seen from him in the past.
it's because you're an autistic faggot.
Ooh, such a tough guy you are. You must be proud of yourself for
talking to people like that. Do you talk to people like that to their face? Keep it up, keyboard warrior douchebag.
person, won't work for another. I'm saying herion might not kill you if
you tried it once or twice and a bad liver from alcohol can ultimately result in death. Some people build up a tolerance for either drugs, alcohol or both which results in people needing more to feel an effect. It's a bad
Agree, but it is knows getting off some drugs is worse than others. Nicotine, although highly addicetive, doesn't have serious side effects from withdrawl, while alcohol often does.
never got addicted to alcohol or heavy drugs. Right now, my two
main problems, which aren't even main, but minor is nicotene and caffeine. They fit like hand in glove.
Yeah, only drug I ever got addicted to was nicotine, but kicked that habit some 18 years ago. Nowadays, it's all about sport and exercise. :)
Ooh, such a tough guy you are.
You must be proud of yourself for talking to
people like that.
Do you talk to people like that to their face?
Keep it
up, keyboard warrior douchebag.
Re: Re: Overmedicated
By: Mro to Nightfox on Tue Jul 25 2017 06:01 pm
it's because you're an autistic faggot.
I'm wondering if you have some insecurities that make you want to talk down to other people like that so you can make yourself feel better.
You know, Nightfox, I like the old saying "Whoever dealt it, smelt it.". I wouldn't go the route of lowering yourself because of someone else.
You must be more honest than a former president.
I'm wondering if you have some insecurities that make you want to talk
down to other people like that so you can make yourself feel better.
it doesnt make me feel better when i call you an autistic faggot.
I wouldn't say nicotine doesn't have a serious side effect. Heart
disease, particularly smoking cigarettes is a serious problem among a lot
of people and leads to death. People ignore the warnings, even myself. I hope one to be free of it one day. Not just to kick the habit, but perhaps to prolong my life.
Good for you. It's an inspiration that one can struggle with something for so long to eventually replace it with something much more positive. Did you quit cold turkey, patches, gum...? How long did you have your habit?
Why do it then? People who are happy and secure are generally positive people and aren't compelled to talk down to people. You seem to be the opposite..
Jon Justvig wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I wouldn't say nicotine doesn't have a serious side effect. Heart
disease, particularly smoking cigarettes is a serious problem among a
lot of people and leads to death. People ignore the warnings, even myself. I hope one to be free of it one day. Not just to kick the
habit, but perhaps to prolong my life.
Good for you. It's an inspiration that one can struggle with something for so long to eventually replace it with something much more positive.
Did you quit cold turkey, patches, gum...? How long did you have your habit?
Jon Justvig wrote to Nightfox <=-
it's because you're an autistic faggot.
Ooh, such a tough guy you are. You must be proud of yourself for
talking to people like that. Do you talk to people like that to their face? Keep it up, keyboard warrior douchebag.
You know, Nightfox, I like the old saying "Whoever dealt it, smelt
it.". I wouldn't go the route of lowering yourself because of someone else.
it's because you're a crazy paranoid faggot.
you seem to forget that you started this
you seem to forget that you started this
it's because you're an autistic faggot.
Ooh, such a tough guy you are. You must be proud of yourself for talking to people like that. Do you talk to people like that to their face? Keep it up, keyboard warrior douchebag.
Quoting Jon Justvig to Vk3jed <=-
something for so long to eventually replace it with something much more positive. Did you quit cold turkey, patches, gum...? How long did you have your habit?
I threw the pack out in his office and haven't had one since. You can do it. Make the first step man. Yeah you'll be miserable, but its'
only 3 days of hell then it's no longer physical and you're onto the mental part.
you seem to forget that you started this
And if it the nicotine or the 4000 other chemicals that cause these health problems anyway? Sure, in high enough doses, nicotine is poisonous (which
I Thought the flame wars ended in the mid 90's?
I Thought the flame wars ended in the mid 90's?
My Mom, and my late wife, had enough of a command of the English
language, that they could get their thoughts, feelings, etc. across,
WITHOUT A SINGLE WORD of vulgar language or profanity.
The same goes with what the world sees today as "comedy". The late comedians such as Red Skelton, Jack Benny, George Burns and Gracie
Allen, Groucho Marx, etc. all proved that "YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE DIRTY
TO BE FUNNY".
Indeed, ventriloquist Tood Oliver, who uses his own dog in his acts,
when told he needs to "spice it up a bit", replied "I don't want my kids hearing that garbage. They likely are getting it from school already".
I saw his show in Branson a few years ago, and have seen videos of it
on YouTube, and it is REFRESHING to see CLEAN COMEDY...not like these
"rap songs" where every other word is a vulgarity...including the
expletive for sexual intercourse.
I Thought the flame wars ended in the mid 90's?
Leregard wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I haven't smoked a cigarette in a long time, but I noticed several
years ago that if I smoked American Spirits or some other "more
expensive" brand, I was ok, but if I bummed a Marlboro Menthol I felt
sick and wanted to die for a few hours. Not sure what chemical that was... who even knows? One of the many.
Tiny wrote to Jon Justvig <=-
I threw the pack out in his office and haven't had one since. You
can do it. Make the first step man. Yeah you'll be miserable, but
its' only 3 days of hell then it's no longer physical and you're onto
the mental part.
Mickey wrote to Tiny <=-
Quitting smoking was the biggest exercise in mind-control i'd ever accomplished. A tough one, but a self satisfying one, none the less.
it's because you're a crazy paranoid faggot.
There should be a Godwin's law rule that when someone attacks the poster instead of the argument, and especially when one makes a ethnic or sexual slur in response to an argument that the discussion is over.
Come on, mro, using faggot as a personal insult went out of vogue in Junior High School.
you seem to forget that you started this
What are you talking about? You were the one who started with insults.
Re: Re: Overmedicated
By: Mro to Nightfox on Wed Jul 26 2017 06:14 pm
you seem to forget that you started this
I guess I was used to seeing a lot of badmouthing on Dove-Net and have gotten tired of it. I don't want to go on and on about it, so I won't.
Re: Re: Overmedicated
By: Nightfox to Mro on Wed Jul 26 2017 08:59 am
it's because you're an autistic faggot.
Ooh, such a tough guy you are. You must be proud of yourself for talking to people like that. Do you talk to people like that to their face? Keep it up, keyboard warrior douchebag.
I Thought the flame wars ended in the mid 90's?
I smoked for over 1/2 my life. Dr's told me if they rip the cancer out and I quit smoking there was only a 1% chance it would grow back, if I kept smoking 100% chance.
I threw the pack out in his office and haven't had one since. You can do it. Make the first step man. Yeah you'll be miserable, but its' only 3 days of hell then it's no longer physical and you're onto the mental part.
Quitting smoking was the biggest exercise in mind-control i'd ever accomplished. A tough one, but a self satisfying one, none the less.
:-)
Re: Re: Overmedicated
By: Mro to Nightfox on Wed Jul 26 2017 06:14 pm
you seem to forget that you started this
Are you tired of all the winning yet?
Denn,
I Thought the flame wars ended in the mid 90's?
Apparently not. Some don't believe in "if you can't say something
nice, don't say anything at all"...never mind the fact that "profanity
is the attempt of a feeble mind to express itself forcibly".
There was a show on Netflix that my wife and I watched a couple of years ago, and Jeff Foxworthy has admitted that tried vulgarity in his act, and noticed that he lost people attending his shows.
My reaction was probably a bit too far.. I just sometimes get tired of seeing the badmouthing and attitude from Mro. I've seen him throw crap at people on Dove-Net on and off at least as long as I've been reading Dove-Net.
Exactly right.. doctors who tell you its the only course of
treatment they can offer, get you strung out on them then drop you
off of them with no warning or without weening you off of them.. it
happens too much and is screwing too many lives up.. it has taken
away the prime years of my life.
So, you've been caught up in the prescription opiate trap? :(
my life.Exactly right.. doctors who tell you its the only course of treatment
they c offer, get you strung out on them then drop you off of them
with no warning without weening you off of them.. it happens too much
and is screwing too ma lives up.. it has taken away the prime years of
Can't say I have'nt learned from experience though..
I have heard that is how it starts, doctors prescribing pain killers. Then, it just goes down hill from there. I forget the name of the documentary that I saw last year, but it was about a brother of a famous wrestler that died from opiod additictions. The documenter blamed the people for the fact that the people is into this violent entertainment business and demanding for more and more.
KK4QBN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
So, you've been caught up in the prescription opiate trap? :(
yes, caught up, strung out, run over, and put out to pastrure.. it's
over now thank God.
There was a show on Netflix that my wife and I watched a couple of years ago, J>and Jeff Foxworthy has admitted that tried vulgarity in his act, and noticed J>that he lost people attending his shows.
It is amazing how FM radio stations broadcast that repeative garbage numberio J>times a day, and even some Christian songs are questionable.
Quitting smoking was the biggest exercise in mind-control i'd ever M>accomplished. A tough one, but a self satisfying one, none the less.
Yeah, could be anything, including the brand of pesticide used on the tobacco V>:/ I'm glad those days are well behind me. :) Of course, the ultimate in ba V>taste was to light the filter by accident (usually done when drunk or very V>tired). :D
i would have love to have seen jeff foxworthy try vulgarity. i think his humo M>is pretty lame and unoriginal. he's like redneck yakoff smirnoff
I've worn full dentures since 2000...my own set of "falsies". The
latest ones I have, which I got from "Affordable Dentures", have fit SO PERFECTLY, that I have NOT had to use one drop of Poli-Grip, Fixodent, etc.
The same goes with what the world sees today as "comedy". The late comedians such as Red Skelton, Jack Benny, George Burns and Gracie
Allen, Groucho Marx, etc. all proved that "YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE DIRTY
TO BE FUNNY".
What's weird here (in Georgia) is that even though we now have a medical marijuana law that regulates CBD, you can still buy it all over the state without a prescription card . The law went into effect in 2015 if I am correct. Just recently started reading up on it so I could be wrong.
True. My daughter suffers from extreme anxiety at times and we've
been researching CBD oil.
CBD has never done anything but drastically INCREASE my anxiety.
I'm sorry. You were making a valid point about substance abuse and
not just being a dick. I guess I just expect the worst from you, for
some reason.
it's because you're a crazy paranoid faggot.
Why do it then? People who are happy and secure are generally
positive people and aren't compelled to talk down to people. You seem
to be the opposite..
you seem to forget that you started this
Well done. The mental habit breaking was the hardest part of
quitting, I found. But I put the money aside for toys. Still got the radio I bought with the money I saved from 6 months of not smoking. :)
Daryl Stout wrote to VK3JED <=-
He said "I've noticed something about the nicotine patches. If you
roll them too tight, they won't light"!! <G>
TIny wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I didn't even bother with saving the extra money, as I didn't notice
I had anymore. I know I could always buy the smokes but I wasn't displined enough to put that $12 a day aside. (I notice a pack is now $16.40 here)
KK4QBN wrote to Captain Obvious <=-
one guy who is in top level government (cannot quite remember what) got through the loopholes by having the oil dropped at his door by an
unknown party then giving it to card holiding patients. They still
tried to string this guy up and he was NOT making ANY type of profit.
nor was he eveing selling it. he was givingh it away.
KK4QBN wrote to pRrp <=-
and it seems *most* strains of thc do this for me as of about 7 years
ago before I stopped using it. I would be able to get some good medical grade at times and it be the right strain and it would work better than any pain/anxiety medication I have ever taken. But most of it just made
me feel weird and very over anxious.
i would have love to have seen jeff foxworthy try vulgarity. i think his humo M>is pretty lame and unoriginal. he's like redneck yakoff smirnoff
Now, I LIKE Yakoff Smirnoff...my late wife and I saw a video of him
doing a show in Branson several years ago. We were laughing so hard that
we were in pain, tears, and nearly peed our pants!! But, it was all
CLEAN HUMOR.
One of my favorite comedians was Seven Wright - He did clean one-liner humor, and I always thought he was quite funny. A more recent one-liner comedian I like is Stewart Francis.
you seem to forget that you started this
Just what did he "start".. did he mutter a couple words to someone that triggered you so that you just HAD to call him an autistic faggot?
I didn't even bother with saving the extra money, as I didn't notice I
had anymore. I know I could always buy the smokes but I wasn't displined enough to put that $12 a day aside. (I notice a pack is now $16.40 here)
He said "I've noticed something about the nicotine patches. If you
roll them too tight, they won't light"!! <G>
TIny wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I didn't even bother with saving the extra money, as I didn't notice I had anymore. I know I could always buy the smokes but I wasn't displined enough to put that $12 a day aside. (I notice a pack is now $16.40 here)
A pack is probably nearer $30 here, been years since I've even noticed a price.
Mro wrote to Vk3jed <=-
A pack is probably nearer $30 here, been years since I've even noticed a price.
holy shit
Smoked for 7 years, I did use patches, but probably could have gone cold turkey. I was just over it the morning I decided to quit. Nowadays, I'm fo doing speed, in the 60, 100, 200 and 400 metre events at a track meet. :D G myself down around 12.8 seconds for 100m. :)
Good point. I went the ignore route, figured it was the most appropriate fo this conference. :)
I Thought the flame wars ended in the mid 90's?
"rap songs" where every other word is a vulgarity...including the
expletive for sexual intercourse.
Think of the sizzling fajitas at Applebees, or a related restaurant.
:)
I had that problem when I last tried smoking a joint, which was over 25 year ago now.
callsign and starts playing around? we ignore them because they're obviously looking for attention. treat it the same way on bbs's, and please don't feed the trolls... eventually they will go back to hanging out with their /b/ros.
Re: Re: Overmedicated
By: Daryl Stout to MICKEY on Thu Jul 27 2017 10:02 pm
Think of the sizzling fajitas at Applebees, or a related restaurant.
:)
dang it daryl, now i want one of those bourbon street steaks from applebee s, you know the one that comes out still sizzling for a few minutes heh... =)
Darkwing wrote to Vk3jed <=-
only smoked for 3 years here, and ended up quitting when i got
strep throat so bad i couldn't take a puff without gagging. when i realized it had been a week without a smoke, i just decided not to
start again.
i'm glad you found running! my distance of choice is the half-marathon. i totally dig the endurance aspect of running. didn't start until i was 30 either, and have to wonder how well i could have
done if i started earlier. sad thing was, i was apparently too stupid
to figure out how to run a bit slower, because every time we ran in PE class i'd go all out at 110%, get a side cramp, and then walk. a
little bit of instruction would have gone a long way!
Darkwing wrote to Vk3jed <=-
what do we do in ham radio when a kiddie gets on the repeater with
no callsign and starts playing around? we ignore them because they're obviously looking for attention. treat it the same way on bbs's, and please don't feed the trolls... eventually they will go back to
hanging out with their /b/ros.
Darkwing wrote to Vk3jed <=-
i think the obvious problem there is that you can't go from 0 to joint in one day, nor would you want to. maybe try *one puff*... but really why smoke, when there are plenty of edible options these days.
and again, be very very careful with the amount =)
Vk3jed wrote to TIny <=-
A pack is probably nearer $30 here, been years since I've even noticed
a price.
Mro wrote to TIny <=-
holy shit. i would grow my own tabacco.
are they cheaper on indian reservations in canada?
But I'm definitely built for speed. Endurance for me is a complex exercise resource management with a bit of stubborness thrown in. Sprints, OTOH, are almost effortless by comparison, as well as being a buzz. During the previo
Tiny wrote to Vk3jed <=-
At that price surprised anyone would bother smoking. $30 for 25
smokes is a bit crazy. (Hell I thought $16 was insane!)
Darkwing wrote to Vk3jed <=-
do you get the endorphin drop from sprints? i absolutely get the runners high when i push long distance. i read about kara goucher
training with power words, and decided to try it myself. when pushing hard, i can actually get the endorphin drop on command now by using the power words i trained with. it's pretty cool when that feeling spreads through your entire body heh. i need to experiment a bit more with it
and see if it can be used for anything more than a runners high on
demand. i'd still like to complete one full marathon, even if i have
to walk parts or whatnot, so i suspect there will be lots of
opportunity to try =) right now i'm just getting ready for the pf
changs half marathon in january. already lost 24lbs this year and 19
more to go until i'm sub-200 w00t w00t.
At that price surprised anyone would bother smoking. $30 for 25
smokes is a bit crazy. (Hell I thought $16 was insane!)
It's called "addiction". :/
holy shit. i would grow my own tabacco.Totally. If I still smoked I would too!
are they cheaper on indian reservations in canada?
Yes, you can still get the "Bag o smokes" (200 cigs)
from the reservation for like $15. (Used to be $9) but it's
the floor sweepings so doesn't seem like a good deal to me.
If it was easy to quit smoking, I think the cigarette industry would pretty much die overnight. They seem to profit from peoples' addiction
CBD has never done anything but drastically INCREASE my anxiety.
and it seems *most* strains of thc do this for me as of about 7 years ago before I stopped using it. I would be able to get some good medical
grade at times and it be the right strain and it would work better than any pain/anxiety medication I have ever taken. But most of it just made
me feel weird and very over anxious.
If it was easy to quit smoking, I think the cigarette industry would
pretty much die overnight. They seem to profit from peoples'
addiction
Yep - if you killed the cigarette industry, politicians relying on campaign contributions in exchange for consideration would not get elected, tobacco workers would be out of work and the economy would take a hit from addicts not paying for their fix.
Oh, and the insurance industry and for-profit medical companies make money on the health issues, wouldn't want to inconvenience them...
Think of the sizzling fajitas at Applebees, or a related restaurant.
:)
dang it daryl, now i want one of those bourbon street steaks from appleb
s, you know the one that comes out still sizzling for a few minutes heh... =
Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
It's called "addiction". :/
If it was easy to quit smoking, I think the cigarette industry would pretty much die overnight. They seem to profit from peoples'
addiction, which I think is a shame, and a shame that cigarette
companies are allowed to continue operating. I suppose people argue
that it's freedom and you can't tell someone what to consume or what
not to consume, which is true.. But I don't think cigarettes really
have any significant health benefits, and they only cause more harm
than benefit.
Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
So politicians, the insurance industry, and medical companies are also profiting from peoples' smoking addiction.. I don't really see that as
a good thing.
Interestingly, the government is one of the big ones profiting from smoking, since most of the cost of cigarettes is government taxes.
addiction, which I think is a shame, and a shame that cigarette
companies are allowed to continue operating. I suppose people argue
that it's freedom and you can't tell someone what to consume or what
not to consume, which is true.. But I don't think cigarettes really
Prohibition is not the answer though. It didn't work for alcohol, and is not working for drugs. All that does is give the criminal element of society a means of making insane profits. Social pressure/cultural change has had some effect, along with restrictions on where one can smoke. A new
At that price surprised anyone would bother smoking. $30 for 25
smokes is a bit crazy. (Hell I thought $16 was insane!)
It's called "addiction". :/
If it was easy to quit smoking, I think the cigarette industry would pretty much die overnight. They seem to profit from peoples' addiction, which I think is a shame, and a shame that cigarette companies are allowed to continue operating. I suppose people argue that it's freedom and you can't tell someone what to consume or what not to consume, which is true.. But I don't think cigarettes really have any significant health benefits, and they only cause more harm than benefit.
i like a decent amount of classic hip hop, and was always impressed with
the EPMD Strictly Business albumn. pretty sure there's not one cuss word on D>there, and it's still an epic albumn, proving that it's not a requirement to D>awesome.
KK4QBN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
The US government PAYS tobacco farmers to BURN their own crops to keep
the supply low, however a lot of these farmers usually end up taking
this tobacco and shipping it overseas and still get their payout..
Crap like this is why our nation is trillions in debt.
Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I wasn't really thinking of making it illegal to smoke, just possibly prohibiting companies from manufacturing & selling cigarettes. People might still be able to get/make cigarettes elsewhere.. Just doesn't really seem good that people are profiting from peoples' addictions.
That's just stupid. Talk about money going up in smoke (literally!). :(
CBD seems to healp with some kinds of anxiety from what I've heaed.
The strongest thing I have is 400 mg Ibuprofen...and at times, that
will still make me sleepy.
CBD has never done anything but drastically INCREASE my anxiety.
Alot of states do this now, it's still illegal federally but in alot of states the cbd isnt regulated by state law (included in the marijuana bill) so they sell it in gas stations anyway and just take a risk
Where in GA can you get CBD without a card?
KK4QBN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
That's just stupid. Talk about money going up in smoke (literally!). :(
Whole-heartitly agreed..
Captain Obvious wrote to Vk3jed <=-
CBD seems to healp with some kinds of anxiety from what I've heaed.
That's my understanding.
Several of the mom and pop gas stations around here as well as behind the counter in some of the vape stores. Ask any teenager, they can tell you where to find it.
the counter in some of the vape stores. Ask any teenager, they can tell you where to find it.
LOL.. think I'd rather just leave it alone :)
would be nice to have some around for seizures though.
I hate the stupid draconian laws of this nation.. they serve no purpose but to make the rich, richer..would be nice to have some around for seizures though.
CBD is totally harmless, it will get you about as high as a tylenol would. It was unscheduled as an "industrial hemp product" or something like that for a long time and it wasn't illegal until January 2017. Places might not even KNOW it's a schedule 1 drug now. It totally is though, be careful.
That's just stupid. Talk about money going up in smoke (literally!). :(
I hate the stupid draconian laws of this nation.. they serve no purpose but to make the rich, richer..
I hate the stupid draconian laws of this nation.. they serve no
purpose but to make the rich, richer..
While I do agree, it is all relative my man... It sure beats what's going on in Venezuela. It didn't make big news here, but even the company that sold Venezuela it's voting machines called shenanigans on the results Maduro put forth.
So true... I know a lot needs to change,, but I still love this country.. maybe, just maybe one day people will glance up from their smartphone and see
whats really going on.
I still carry a little bit of hope..
Re: Overmedicated
By: KK4QBN to Darkwing on Fri Aug 04 2017 12:29:50
So true... I know a lot needs to change,, but I still love thise
country.. maybe, just maybe one day people will glance up from their
smartphone and se
whats really going on.
I still carry a little bit of hope..
Amen. I know I'm just as guitly of looking at my phone while check BBSes and walking to work or back to my car from work (I park two blocks away from work), but at least it's quick and I still see the world. And this is an example that I'm trying to set with my kids: mindfulness of other people around you. I am staunchly against my kids being on electronic devices while we are out in public. I don't want my kids be like other kids their ages are doing these days: on the phone just because the parents want them quiet. If my kids are acting out and not calming down in a reasonable amount of time, it's time for me and the kids to go out in the car to have them get it all out.
While I do agree, it is all relative my man... It sure beats what's going on in Venezuela. It didn't make big news here, but even the company that sold Venezuela it's voting machines called shenanigans on the results Maduro put forth.
going on in Venezuela. It didn't make big news here, but even the company that sold Venezuela it's voting machines called shenanigans on the results Maduro put forth.
This won't be popular, but I've thought about it and I actually trust the Constituent Assembly way more than a trust a for profit company that makes voting machines. I hate voting machines. Maybe the company rigged them in the first place, how would anyone know?
This won't be popular, but I've thought about it and I actually trust the Constituent Assembly way more than a trust a for profit company that makes voting machines. I hate voting machines. Maybe the company rigged them in the first place, how would anyone know?
Darkwing wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Still seems better than smoking it though =) I had a buddy who
grew up in PA tell me they used to pee all over the harvested tobacco before it went off to get processed. Eww...
I just want to throw this out there, Venezuela is not actually a socialist country. Most of it's economy (like 70%) is privately owned, most of its newspapers etc. are privately owned, etc., etc. Everything *I* have seen suggests that the more-or-less Socialist party is in charge because THE PEOPLE WANTED THEM TO BE... I could be wrong, I'm not there, I don't have the complete picture, but the current media coverage of Venezuela in the US is one of the few cases I call #fakenews.
Probably not that bad, but something similar could happen here tomorrow. It could happen anywhere. The government doesn't matter, Saudi Arabia has some kind of Islamic Monarchy thing going, because they can, because they're rich on oil, but if the world stopped buying it they'd be Venezuala in no time. [0m
Thats why Mr Musk needs to hurry with his electric cars, and put some affordable ones on the road.. at least we can make our own fule here and not have to be dependant on the middle east. and other "undesirable" parts of the world that is holding oil over our heads..
I call #fakenews.In any case though, it doesn't even matter what kind of government they
Re: Flaming And More
By: Daryl Stout to DENN on Thu Jul 27 2017 07:43 am
The same goes with what the world sees today as "comedy". The late comedians such as Red Skelton, Jack Benny, George Burns and Gracie Allen, Groucho Marx, etc. all proved that "YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE DIRTY TO BE FUNNY".
One of my favorite comedians was Seven Wright - He did clean one-liner humor, and I always thought he was quite funny. A more recent one-liner comedian I like is Stewart Francis.
we should have new 4-5k cars. just simple cars with no frills that
dont break down. i think these fucking weird smartcars should be 4k.
i just dont think we are there yet with electric cars and gasoline just works better than any of the alternatives in the long scheme of things.
we should just use nuclear power for everything.
Come on! You haven't heard of the 8 second rule!?!? :O
I've heard of the 5 second rule, but that doesn't reply if you have a
2 second dachsund...who feels that anything that falls on the floor is legally HIS!!
They were going to ask that on a study for second hand flatulence, but could never get enough volunteers. <G>
my old boss started the gum and he is more addicted to the gum than
he ever was on cigarettes.
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