• Cyber Bots

    From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Daryl Stout on Thursday, July 06, 2017 10:23:44
    Re: Cyber Bots
    By: Daryl Stout to MRO on Fri Jun 30 2017 12:04 pm

    you just posted your new users's password.

    I decided not to have a New User Password. If they don't leave New

    you misunderstood.
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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to MRO on Thursday, July 06, 2017 19:02:00
    you just posted your new users's password.

    I decided not to have a New User Password. If they don't leave New

    you misunderstood.

    No, unless it has been changed, the Telnet BBS Guide basically says
    that "If you require a New User Password BESIDES the choice to 'Apply
    For Access', you can NOT be listed in the Telnet BBS Guide"; that is put
    out monthly for telnet, quarterly for dial-up.

    When I ran GT Power under dial-up, it DID require a System Password
    for New Users to enter BEFORE they could continue the New User Logon
    process. This ensured that they didn't "skip over" things like the BBS Disclaimer and other things that users had to agree to before they could
    be considered for access...to be sure they did in fact, read those
    screens.

    Others may disagree with me, but I feel that in this day and age, if
    you let a total, unknown stranger into your residence...online or otherwise...you have a Death Wish. What users do OUTSIDE THE BBS is
    THEIR BUSINESS...but they are A GUEST IN MY HOME AT LOGON...and they are EXPECTED to act in a manner where they'd be welcomed back. I won't
    hesitate to "show a twit the door", as it were. I would rather have a
    LIMITED number of QUALITY users who play by the rules, than a LARGE
    number of QUANTITY users who do not.

    Also, on my BBS, while user data is kept STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL;
    released ONLY for a Law Enforcement Subpeona, or for BBS Rules
    Violations (Confirmed Visiting Sysops are notified, so that they can
    protect their systems)...if a user will NOT leave New User Feedback,
    telling where they heard about the BBS, and what they're looking for in
    it, then go through the Telnet Email Verifier within 48 hours after
    initial logon, their account is DELETED WITHOUT COMMENT.

    The same applies if they omit or obviously falsify their new user data
    (i.e. failing to provide a real full name along with their alias). While
    some message networks and InterBBS Doorgame Leagues allow aliases, some
    do NOT...because the user of REAL NAMES provides ACCOUNTABILITY and RESPONSIBILITY for ones actions.

    In short, if users don't want to play by the simple rules I've laid
    down, then I neither want them, or need them, on my BBS.

    Daryl

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to KK4QBN on Friday, July 07, 2017 14:06:24
    Re: Cyber Bots
    By: KK4QBN to tfurrows on Sat Jul 01 2017 11:21 pm

    Re: Cyber Bots
    By: tfurrows to Mro on Sat Jul 01 2017 00:59:39

    you just posted your new users's password.
    Are you saying that the BBS software stores passwords in log files, in plain text? That really isn't something that should be logged at all.

    Yes it does...

    And you can disable that by setting SCFG->System->Toggle Options->Echo Passwords Locally to "No".

    digital man

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  • From Knightmare@VERT/P99BBS to Mro on Friday, July 07, 2017 23:54:06
    Re: Cyber Bots
    By: Mro to Denn Gray on Thu Jun 29 2017 09:48 pm

    Baud Boy FAILED Password verification: '' instead of 'PBQ3RKYS'
    N! Couldn't figure out password.

    this was in my logs today lol


    you just posted your new users's password.


    Hahahahahahaha...

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Digital Man on Saturday, July 08, 2017 22:34:11
    Re: Cyber Bots
    By: Digital Man to KK4QBN on Fri Jul 07 2017 14:06:24

    Yes it does...

    And you can disable that by setting SCFG->System->Toggle Options->Echo

    Cool, I knew of that option, but did'nt think it would effect the logging also. in my mind "Echo passwords locally" had nothing to do with the output window or logging, only terminal, etc..


    It's never presented an issue to me for the many years I've dealt with sbbs so i've never even tested that option. :-)

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to KK4QBN on Sunday, July 09, 2017 01:03:21
    Re: Cyber Bots
    By: KK4QBN to Digital Man on Sat Jul 08 2017 10:34 pm

    Re: Cyber Bots
    By: Digital Man to KK4QBN on Fri Jul 07 2017 14:06:24

    Yes it does...

    And you can disable that by setting SCFG->System->Toggle Options->Echo

    Cool, I knew of that option, but did'nt think it would effect the logging also. in my mind "Echo passwords locally" had nothing to do with the output window or logging, only terminal, etc..

    Okay, so I've change the name/help for that option in SCFG to make it more clear.

    digital man

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