Recently I heard that the patents on the MP3 format have been released. I'd think that means MP3 will be more widely supported, in open-source software and such. But I've seen some articles that are trying to say the MP3 format is "dead":
Recently I heard that the patents on the MP3 format have been released. I'd think that means MP3 will be more widely supported, in open-source software such. But I've seen some articles that are trying to say the MP3 format is "dead":
https://qz.com/983934/say-goodbye-to-the-iconic-mp3/
That article says there are newer formats (such as AAC) that offer better au quality. It makes sense to me that the newer/better formats would be preferred, but it doesn't make sense to me to call MP3 dead right now. Many devices on the market, including car stereos, smart phones, music players, e support MP3; I haven't heard of any such devices that support AAC, although have no doubt that there are smart phones etc. that support AAC (it would ju need a music player app that plays AAC). Devices like car stereos are harde to update, so I imagine there may still be many such devices for a while tha can play MP3 but not the newer formats.
Basically, I think it's going to take some time for some music players to ca up with newer formats. After MP3s came out, it was several years before I s a car stereo that could play MP3 files.
Also, I imagine that it would take an audiophile's ear to really notice the difference between a high-quality MP3 and an AAC file. I doubt many people with MP3 files are going to go re-rip all their music to AAC right now. Som music sold online is in MP3 format - I'd hope that same music would become available in newer formats once available. That's one reason I still prefer buy music on CDs or in FLAC format - I can convert it myself to whatever los format I choose.
Nightfox
Nightfox wrote to All <=-
That article says there are newer formats (such as AAC) that offer
better audio quality. It makes sense to me that the newer/better
formats would be preferred, but it doesn't make sense to me to call MP3 dead right now. Many devices on the market, including car stereos,
smart phones, music players, etc. support MP3; I haven't heard of any
such devices that support AAC, although I have no doubt that there are smart phones etc. that support AAC (it would just need a music player
app that plays AAC). Devices like car stereos are harder to update, so
I imagine there may still be many such devices for a while that can
play MP3 but not the newer formats.
Basically, I think it's going to take some time for some music players
to catch up with newer formats. After MP3s came out, it was several
years before I saw a car stereo that could play MP3 files.
Also, I imagine that it would take an audiophile's ear to really notice the difference between a high-quality MP3 and an AAC file. I doubt
many people with MP3 files are going to go re-rip all their music to
AAC right now. Some music sold online is in MP3 format - I'd hope that same music would become available in newer formats once available.
That's one reason I still prefer to buy music on CDs or in FLAC format
- I can convert it myself to whatever lossy format I choose.
sorry, you're schitzophrenic.
and...
have you BEEN to oklahoma. that place fucking sucks.
I'm only responding for other people who might get something out of reading this.
Feeling like somehow you, personally, are BETTER than every person and every
And I don't like to go to this level, but you can't even spell schizophrenic. Do you even know what schizophrenia is? I'll be happy to
schizophrenic. Do you even know what schizophrenia is? I'll be happy to have an intelligent conversation about mental illness if you want? But if
Re: MP3 format dead??
By: Leregard to Mro on Fri Jun 30 2017 09:23 pm
And I don't like to go to this level, but you can't even spell schizophrenic. Do you even know what schizophrenia is? I'll be happy to
I'm really looking forward to a reply for this. I want to see you spin this in your favor, somehow.
Even in today's world 140 character post-Trump post-Truth world conversation is impossible because you can spin and pivot everything, and news is either "real news" or "fake news" depending on who said so or how you feel about it, and every fact has alternatives, even in THIS political climate and social media climate, I want to see you how you spin poor spelling and ignorance into something positive.
Re: MP3 format dead??
By: Leregard to Mro on Fri Jun 30 2017 09:55 pm
And I don't like to go to this level, but you can't even spell schizophrenic. Do you even know what schizophrenia is? I'll be happy to
I'm really looking forward to a reply for this. I want to see you spin this in your favor, somehow.
O boy you just challened Mro
i dont even know what the nut is trying to say.I'm really looking forward to a reply for this. I want to see youO boy you just challened Mro
spin this in your favor, somehow.
And I don't like to go to this level, but you can't even spell
O boy you just challened Mro
i dont even know what the nut is trying to say.
Re: MP3 format dead??
By: Cosmo to Mro on Thu Jun 08 2017 01:15 pm
Funny...my dad says the same thing about cable...and ironically it seems that 80% of cable/sat channels are 24/7 infomercials???
I haven't had cable TV for a while; I've just been watching over-the-air TV and stuff from Netflix, etc. There's even interesting stuff on YouTube too.. As far as over-the-air TV, in a place that gets good reception, I'm surprised at how many channels you can get over the air. Digital channels seem to be able to have multiple channels from the same station (for instance, where I live, we hvae a 12-1, 12-2, etc.). There seem to be a few infomercial channels over the air on TV where I live too.
Where I live, I currently receive 177 OTA TV channels. Of those, 23 are in HD. Most of the 177 channels fall into one of these categories:
1. Home Shopping
2. Religion
3. Foreign Language
bad channels with bad reception). So it's really hit and miss, but if you are lucky enough to live within range, I highly recommend (to everyone) utilizing the free content over the public airways.
Re: MP3 format dead??
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Fri Jul 07 2017 12:55 pm
Where I live, I currently receive 177 OTA TV channels. Of those, 23 are in HD. Most of the 177 channels fall into one of these categories:
1. Home Shopping
2. Religion
3. Foreign Language
It's similar where I live, although I get fewer channels - maybe 30 or 40 over the air. There are some home shopping, religion, and foreign language as well, and a few channels that play older TV shows. Those stations seem to have a standard-definition picture, but the ones that do have a HD picture look great.
bad channels with bad reception). So it's really hit and miss, but if you are lucky enough to live within range, I highly recommend (to everyone) utilizing the free content over the public airways.
I agree. It seems many people subscribe to cable or satellite these days, but I don't really see the point unless I'd be spending a LOT of time watching content that's only available on those services. I've never really had the desire to do that. I've found plenty of content I do enjoy over the air and some on streaming (including YouTube, which has plenty of free content).
Exactly. The only thing I really missed from DirecTV was Fox Sports Net, because they broadcast 90% of the Angels Baseball games. So I subscribed to mlb.tv for 1/20th of the price, but I have to use a VPN to get around their stupid blackout restrictions. Everything else we watch is available for free or cheaper either OTA or OTT (over-the-top, i.e. via the Internet).
Digital Man wrote to Nightfox <=-
Where I live, I currently receive 177 OTA TV channels. Of those, 23 are
in HD. Most of the 177 channels fall into one of these categories:
1. Home Shopping
2. Religion
3. Foreign Language
Re: MP3 format dead??
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Fri Jul 07 2017 04:47 pm
Exactly. The only thing I really missed from DirecTV was Fox Sports Net, because they broadcast 90% of the Angels Baseball games. So I subscribed to mlb.tv for 1/20th of the price, but I have to use a VPN to get around their stupid blackout restrictions. Everything else we watch is available for free or cheaper either OTA or OTT (over-the-top, i.e. via the Internet).
Are you using the VPN on a PC or a smart TV?
I've wondered if it's possible
to set up a VPN on a smart TV so that one could (for instance) stream Netflix with their app on a smart TV and watch their content that they have available in other countries.
I doubt TVs support VPN (though I suppose it's technically feasible). Instead, you would need VPN support in a gateway on your LAN (inserted between the TV and the Internet). That VPN/gateway could be a PC (e.g. using Windows Internet Connection Sharing) or a router device. Since I only need the VPN for mlb.tv and I have a HT-PC connected to the "big big" screen, it works fine for me.
I never see an USB 2.0 Port without 5V- and GND- (Ground) Line, even if the device has an own power adapter.
A Problem can awake, if you plug an USB 3.0 to an USB 2.0 port, because the amperage of USB 3.0 can be until 900mA in different to USB 2.0, which can use 500mA. Plug an USB 2.0 Device to an USB 3.0 Port indicates no problem..
Where I live, I currently receive 177 OTA TV channels. Of those, 23
are in HD. Most of the 177 channels fall into one of these
categories: 1. Home Shopping
2. Religion
3. Foreign Language
It's similar where I live, although I get fewer channels - maybe 30 or 40 over the air. There are some home shopping, religion, and foreign language as well, and a few channels that play older TV shows. Those stations seem to have a standard-definition picture, but the ones that do have a HD picture look great.
On 05/19/17, Nightfox said the following...
example) a 256k AAC, then you will probably notice a difference. But you have 320kbit or VBR MP3s created by a good encoder, they will probably sound good enough and it might be difficult to notice a difference between that and an equivalent AAC.
Correct! The program I use, FreeRIP, and others I've seen in my travels have a quality setting (I think between 1 and 8?). Set it at about 5,
and the bitrate will bounce between 1 and 320 depending on the volume of parts of the song, and how complex they are.
It makes for a good balance between having really good quality music and not needlessly filling up your drive *coughFLACcough*
listen to them. I end up using a subscription service, YouTube, use my XMP Player app on my phone than I do the music or FM radiI almost forgot there were FM radio apps.. There's one I've tried fo Android phone called TuneIn. It looks almost like an online steaming though - It lets me browse a bunch of stations and search for station and it shows lists of featured news stations, top music stations, etc none of which I'm familiar with. It's as if I'm browsing online stations. It doesn't seem to show an indication that it's tuning fro local FM radio, so I'm not sure if that's what it's doing or if it's streaming from online.
TuneIn is definitely only streaming stations, not using an FM antenna. There's a really awful app that came with newer Sansung phones (because somebody told them that everybody wants to use their cell phone like a transister radio so it has a tiny FM antenna inside) that would automatically tell you the radio stations in your area and enable you to tune into them at a touch of a button. But because the antenna is so small, none of the stations would actually play.
But back to TuneIn, yes some of those stations are online broadcasts of
FM stations and some are purely Internet-only stations. What you can be sure of is that you can find any CBS (or whatever they're called now) or Clear Channel/iHeart stations on there now because they direct you over
to their proprietary apps. GAH
regardless, i'm in my car to drive, not listen to music.
booooooooring!! :P
FM has really went to shit around here, there is 1 station remotly decent to listen to WSKZ (KZ106) the rest are just clearchannel dupes
And then one day, you'll go to tune in and the format will have flipped unexpectantly. Such is the world of the almighty dollar taking higher priority over our entertainment. That's really the proof of FM sucking.
And really anything that's not just you plugging in a USB key with your own music on it. Even satellite radio, which started as the bastion of not having to deal with the same 10 songs in rotation and inane babble
is now just subscription FM.
And THEN FM tries to be just like satellite radio with HD Radio and
that's a whole other failing pile of shite. :P
Yeah, that was sarcasm.. Currently I have a car stereo that can play MP3s from a USB stick, and I haven't that stereo to play CDs.
My dad's new pickup truck didn't come with a CD player OR satellite radio tuner. Just FM/AM and an SDCARD slot.
i can use vlc on my phone and listen to the bbses.info shoutcast and
Link? :)
somebody told them that everybody wants to use their cell phone like transister radio so it has a tiny FM antenna inside) that would
Sorry - I stand corrected after reading the rest of this thread.
There's a chipset inside, and the headphones are the antenna...barely :P
Even with TVs that have built-in cable TV tuners, these days I've bee seeing cable companies providing cable boxes again for subscribers. think the reasons are high-definition digital channels over cable, an some cable companies provide DVRs that let you record shows to watch later.
It's actually largely a money grab, but also their ability to control
you. My TV provider will only rent you (for a fee per box) boxes to be able to receive TV. You can't buy them from a third-party source, and
you can't use your digital tuner that's built into all the TVs now,
mostly because the technology's not compatible, but also because they probably can't lock down the channels that you get (READ: Buy a more expensive package to get everything you want) without using their
I listen to AM radio 98% of the time.
How??? There's so much electrical interference in the air now that I can maybe pick up 3 AM stations in my area. One of them is an HD gospel station so I always tune to it just to revel in the fact that the sound quality I'm hearing is actually coming from an AM station.
Then I remember I don't listen to gospel. ;)
REPOST...
It makes for a good balance between having really good quality music
and not needlessly filling up your drive *coughFLACcough*
My dad's new pickup truck didn't come with a CD player OR satellite
radio tuner. Just FM/AM and an SDCARD slot.
Nightfox wrote to SquigY0 <=-
I don't think FLAC is needless.. As a lossless codec, FLAC preserves audio data that is removed when using codecs such as MP3. So I think
FLAC is good for making backups of your CDs. I like to rip my CDs to FLAC, and I keep the FLAC copies on an external hard drive as a backup.
And in the future, if I want to re-convert my music to a different format, I have the original audio in the FLAC files on that hard drive,
so it's more convenient than bringing out all my CDs and re-ripping
again.
Re: MP3 format dead??
By: SquigY0 to Nightfox on Mon Jul 10 2017 01:42 pm
My dad's new pickup truck didn't come with a CD player OR satellite
radio tuner. Just FM/AM and an SDCARD slot.
Interesting.. I've seen a lot of car stereos with a USB port so you can use USB flash drive, but I've never seen one with an SD card slot for that purpo I've seen ones with built-in GPS navigation with an SD card, but my understanding was that the SD slot on those is for updated map data for the GPS.
Nightfox
My dad's new pickup truck didn't come with a CD player OR satellite
radio tuner. Just FM/AM and an SDCARD slot.
Interesting.. I've seen a lot of car stereos with a USB port so you can use a USB flash drive, but I've never seen one with an SD card slot for that purpose. I've seen ones with built-in GPS navigation with an SD
card, but my understanding was that the SD slot on those is for updated map data for the GPS.
Interesting.. I've seen a lot of car stereos with a USB port so you
can use a USB flash drive, but I've never seen one with an SD card
slot for that purpose. I've seen ones with built-in GPS navigation
with an SD card, but my understanding was that the SD slot on those
is for updated map data for the GPS.
I've never tried it, but I think you can play music from the SD card slot, you'll just have no GPS use while you do it.
Re: MP3 format dead??
By: SquigY0 to Nightfox on Mon Jul 10 2017 01:40 pm
It makes for a good balance between having really good quality
music and not needlessly filling up your drive *coughFLACcough*
I don't think FLAC is needless.. As a lossless codec, FLAC preserves audio data that is removed when using codecs such as MP3. So I think FLAC is good for making backups of your CDs. I like to rip my CDs to FLAC, and I keep the FLAC copies on an external hard drive as a backup. And in the future, if I want to re-convert my music to a different format, I have the original audio in the FLAC files on that hard drive, so it's more convenient than bringing out all my CDs and re-ripping again.
whats with these old reposts?
On 07/10/17, Mro said the following...
whats with these old reposts?
Like a dumbass I had SYNCDATA crosslinked between dovenet and fido so it was throwing dupes. Lost posting privileges until I got it fixed. SquigYO wasn't aware of that (because I was off doing other stuff and not minding the store) so he was posting messages all along that never made it.
whats with these old reposts?
Like a dumbass I had SYNCDATA crosslinked between dovenet and fido so it was throwing dupes. Lost posting privileges until I got it fixed. SquigYO wasn't aware of that (because I was off doing other stuff and not minding the store) so he was posting messages all along that never made it.
I don't think FLAC is needless.. As a lossless codec, FLAC preserves
audio data that is removed when using codecs such as MP3. So I think
MP3Pro ?
i wish that by default synchronet put the data files for msgs in
different sub folders. i know it's harder to check\fix for errors with the utilities, but i didnt like fixsmb anyways.
i dont even know what the nut is trying to say.
i dont even know what the nut is trying to say.You've taken HOW THE WORLD APPEARS TO YOU and given it the status of a fact. It's not you personally -- lots and lots of people do this -- and if we're
I don't sound nuts, I sound educated. Thanks.
blah blah blah blah
nope, you sound nuts.
blah blah blah blah
nope, you sound nuts.
I've met nuts, and they sound a lot more like you do. It's like you have literally no imagination, and literally can't understand anything you don't know already.
Re: MP3 format dead??
By: Mro to Leregard on Fri Jul 14 2017 12:26 am
blah blah blah blah
nope, you sound nuts.
I've met nuts, and they sound a lot more like you do. It's like you have literally no imagination, and literally can't understand anything you don't know already.
He did used to hang around a group that had no imagination or sense of humor, and actually lashed out at those who dared to.
Perhaps it rubbed off? ;)
you are literally someone that uses the word literally too much.
dont know what you are talking about, dude. and i dont hang around
in groups.
never heard of you, either.
dont know what you are talking about, dude. and i dont hang around
in groups.
never heard of you, either.
Neat. There's somebody on IRC that uses your exact same name. What are the chances?
dont know what you are talking about, dude. and i dont hang around
in groups.
never heard of you, either.
Neat. There's somebody on IRC that uses your exact same name. What are the chances?
oh, you are one of those losers that is into second life.
yes i was on eli's irc server and you guys got into some type of feud.
Re: MP3 format dead??
By: Mro to SquigY0 on Mon Jul 17 2017 16:37:53
oh, you are one of those losers that is into second life.
yes i was on eli's irc server and you guys got into some type of feud.
Has'nt Eli since passed away?
either way, you dont know what you're talking about.
Has'nt Eli since passed away?
yeah he died in 2015 of leukemia. happened really fast, too.
he didnt backup his bbs and give it to anybody.
i tried to grab his file areas when his bbs was running after he died but his computer crashed on me.
he had addison's disease and had a pretty rough life in more ways than one.
yeah he died in 2015 of leukemia. happened really fast, too.
he didnt backup his bbs and give it to anybody.
i tried to grab his file areas when his bbs was running after he died but his computer crashed on me.
he had addison's disease and had a pretty rough life in more ways than one.
Yeah, He had spoke a bit to me about some of the issues he had, but never realy got into it much. he really jut wanted to enjoy what he could when he could I presume. Him and I started AcNet ago and I have been searching to see if it's still up. it appears some bbs systems have it up, but they have been on autopilot it appears as long as Eli has been gone.. no use in putting another network back up if it just going to sit idle like the rest.
what pissed me off was his so called friends didnt seem to give a shit that he was dead...
i never saw a bigger group of cold hearted bastards. so i just
unplugged and never went back...
i never saw a bigger group of cold hearted bastards. so i just unplugged and never went back. thorny, greg thornhill died also. thorny was a great guy.
Re: MP3 format dead??
By: Mro to KK4QBN on Wed Jul 19 2017 16:12:29
i never saw a bigger group of cold hearted bastards. so i just unplugged and never went back. thorny, greg thornhill died also. thorny was a great guy.
Oh wow.. I remember thorny also, it is sad.. I know I jump quick to conclusions at times and tend to piss on peoples parades, etc.. but yeah. I like to still look at the bbs community as more of a real "community" as what you would get in todays social networking, etc. Not just a grouping of people with the same likes, motives..
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